******** * * NAMES OF INTEREST: * * Major Interest: * Booth, Cooper, Elliott, Fairburn, Garratt, Glover, * Hodgkins, Jago, Knapton, Lancashire, * Phillips, Ross, Ward, Watson, Wilson * * Minor Interest: * Arthur, Baxter, Box, Brooke (Brookes), Dawson, Davis, * Hainsworth, Hardy, Jerman, Knight, * Lamb, Langley, Lees, Lester, Love, Michell, Mooney (Moony), * Oates, Pardo, Pearson, Pipes, Pullen, Purdy, * Shaw, Smith, Stead, Stevenson, Waller * * Turner? * ******** ******** * Who are: * \Ann Turner:c1823\ Borne May, 9. 182[3?] * \Joseph Turner:1827\ Borne January, 27 1827 * \William Turner:1832\ Borne February [6?] 1832 * as recorded, handwritten, in the Hodgkins family bible???? * Who are the Turners, and how do they connect (if at all) * with the Hodgkins???? * Benjamin Hodgkins <60> marriage also records William Turner as a witness. ******** ******** * * Readers Notes: * * 1. * This file is best printed in landscape in 8-point Courier New or equivalent. * * 2. * Numbers in <> refer to the IDs of other people in the tree. * * 3. * All exact dates are either in the UK date format - DD/MM/YYYY, eg. 14/03/1988 or 04/01/1988, * or in the genealogical standard date format - D MMM YYYY eg. 14 MAR 1988 or 4 JAN 1988. * Prior to 1752, New Years Day was 25th March (Lady Day), from 1752 NYD changed to the * 1st January we know. Dates before 1752 with a '(L)' following them, eg. 04/01/1724(L) or 4 JAN 1724(L), * are of the old style, while dates with a '(N)' following them, eg. 04/01/1725(N) or 4 JAN 1725(N), * are of the new Gregorian style (if before 1752 they have been pre-converted). * They may be written as 04/01/1724(L)1725(N) recording both forms. * If it is not known which new year system a date uses, it may be written 04/01/1724(X) * (meaning that if the date in the source data, written 1724, was in the old system, then it is 1725 converted * to the new, but if it was already converted to the new system then it remains 1724.) * Dates in or after 1752 with no indication of the date system used may be reasonably assumed to be of the new form. * Dates before 1752 with no indication of the date system used may be reasonably assumed to be of the old form. * Also, note that in September 1752, 10 days were dropped in conversion/synchronisation to the * Gregorian calendar, such that the day after 02/09/1752 was 14/09/1752 - be careful with the year 1752! * * 4. * Approximate dates (usually derived from ages on censues) are written c{nnnn}, eg. c1870. * Approximate dates from census ages are usually accurate +/- 2 years, providing that the person knew how * old they were and that they didn't lie! * * 5. * Sources of the data in the file are recorded in [square brackets] * and include the following abbreviations/shortcuts: * nnnnC : Census - eg. 1841C, 1851C, 1861C, 1871C, 1881C, 1891C, 1901C, 1911C * AB : Anne Bowen * AG : Andrew Greenfield * bible : Family bible * cert : Certificate (birth, marriage or death) * CK : Charlotte Ketterer * CM2 : Claire Milburn * CoSPR : Church of Scotland Parish Records * CWGC : Commonwealth War Graves Commission * DH : Dean Peter Hodgkins * FL : Faith Lindley Smith * christine : Christine Jerman (Ward) <5> * grev : Greville Watson <11> * HK : Hugh Knapton (one-name study) * IGI : International Genealogical Index * JD : Jill Dunhill * JL : Jonathon Lidster * JM : Jennifer Mooney * JP : Jennifer Purdy * JS : Janet Sykes * karen : Karen Stevenson (Ward) <2> * KS : Karen Shaw * ref : Reference (eg. certificate reference) * PL : Patti Lindsay * PR : Parish Registers/Records * RC : Richard Cheney * RVCP : Rother Valley Country Park * SE : Sheila Extance * SJ : Syd Jago * SN : Susan Norman (Mooney) * VRI : Vital Records Index * * 6. * The "Position" field is denoted as: * the initial 0 is me (Ian Ward <1>) * additional zeros on the right denote a persons father * additional ones on the right denote a persons mother * a # denotes a sibling * a * denotes marriage * a ^ denotes offspring * eg. I (Ian Ward <1>) am 0 * My sister is 0# * My father is 00 * My mother is 01 * My uncle on my mothers side is my mothers brother, or 01# * My paternal grandfather is 000 * My paternal grandmother is 001 * My maternal grandmother is 011 * My maternal grandfather is 010 * My grandfather (on my mothers side) second marriage is 010* * The offspring of that second marriage are 010*^ * Position numbers that are wholely numeric are actually similar to an 'ahnentafel' number * (type it into your favourite search engine for a description of what that means, if you don't know). * To convert these to an ahnentafel, change the leading '0' to a '1', treat the resulting number as * being in binary and convert it to decimal. Ahnentafels with a base descendant other than myself * can also be calculated relatively easily from these Position numbers with a little coding. * * 7. * Generation numbers are organised as follows: * I (Ian Ward <1>) am generation 0, the base generation for this tree. So are my sister and first cousins. * Past generations before mine are negative, so my mum and dad are gen -1, my grandparents -2, etc. * Younger generations are positive, so my children will be generation +1, their children +2, etc. * ******** _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ /=============================================================================/ ID: <1> Status: L (Private) /==============================================================================/ ID: <2> Status: L (Private) /==============================================================================/ ID: <3> Status: L (Private)_ _PUBLIC /==============================================================================/ ID: <4> Status: L (Private) /==============================================================================/ ID: <5> Status: L (Private) /==============================================================================/ ID: <6> Status: D Name: \Kathleen Hodgkins\ dads mother Gender: F Gen: -2 Position: 001 Born: 18/01/1917, Aston, Rotherham [confirmed by birth certificate] Married: 25/10/1941, Aston, from marriage certificate She lived at 8 Grange Avenue, Swallownest. Father is recorded as Henry Hodgkins, a Surface (?)Wriher(?), deceased. Witnesses were Albert Hodgkins (brother) and (Kednuck? Redilick?) Ward. Died: 16/04/1997, Hackenthorpe, Sheffield, Yorkshire Died at home in Hackenthorpe. Buried in Aston cemetary, Aston, Yorkshire - I think - possibly Beighton cemetary (Beighton, Sheffield, Yorkshire) Partner: <7> Child: <3> Child: <5> Father: <41> Mother: <42> Sibling: \Albert Hodgkins:1898:1956?\ (16/09/1898), lived in Deal, Kent. [bible] [1901C] Aged 2 in 1901; born c1899, Woodhouse Mill, Yorkshire; living at Swallownest, Aston cum Aughton [1901C]. Aged 12 in 1911; born c1899, Woodhouse Mill, Yorkshire; living at 4 George Square, Aston cum Aughton [1911C]. Wife was \Doris Parker:c1898\ (Looked for birth/death of Doris - WAAAAAAY too many possible Doris Parkers born about 1898 to pin it down. :o( ) They lived at 38 Ethelbert Road, Deal, Kent. [Dad] [CM2] says he married Doris Parker. Confirmed by family album. Hodgkins bible says married 07/12/1935 - WRONG. [bible] Marriage was actually registered Jan-Mar 1935, at Eastry district, 2a/2082. Small marriage card in family album says 07/03/1935, Dover Road, Palmer. [family album] An Albert Hodgkins died in 1956: Jul-Sep 1956, Albert Hodgkins, aged 57, Folkestone (district), 5b/464 [GRO] Is this Albert? (If Albert died in 1956, and Nell in 1969, wouldn't sister Nell <6> have kept some record or clipping or something of it? She kept it for everything else!!) Son: \Peter Hodgkins:1935\ _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Son: \Michael Hodgkins:1943\ [Dad] [DH] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Son: \Allan Hodgkins:1937\ [DH] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Son: \Brian Hodgkins:1940\ [DH] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Son: \Michael Hodgkins:1943\ [DH] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Daughter: \Janet Hodgkins:1946\ [DH] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Son: \Adrian Hodgkins:1948\ [DH] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Son: \Ian Hodgkins:1950\ [DH] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \Nell Hodgkins:1900:c1969\ ["Auntie Nell"] Born 01/04/1900 Aged 1 in 1901; born c1900, Swallownest, Yorkshire; living at Swallownest, Aston cum Aughton [1901C]. Aged 11 in 1911; born c1900, Swallownest, Yorkshire; living at 4 George Square, Aston cum Aughton [1911C]. Died circa 1969, believed by Dad to be early December 1969. Cremated on 10/12/1969, at Rotherham Crematorium, based on crematorium expenses dated 18/12/1969. Still recorded as Nellie Hodgkins in death indexes, so presumably never married. Worked on ships (unknown as what) - on the Cunard and (I believe) on the Queen Mary. There is a photo of her on board a ship in her uniform, and a photo in a Hodgkins photo album of her on the (Queen Mary?). Nell kept extensive photos. I have a photo album of hers, including many pictures of herself and other Hodgkins. Nell kept A LOT of stuff and memorabelia of her time at sea, much of which is now in archive D6719 at Derbyshire Record Office. This was donated to them by Karen Ward/Stevenson <2> in 2006. After (finally) going to see it in 2017, I now have electronic images of much of the family history material in it. \Jim Hodgkins:1902:1983\ Born 04/05/1902 Lived in Deal, Kent Aged 8 in 1911; born c1903, Selston, Nottinghamshire; living at 4 George Square, Aston cum Aughton [1911C]. Wife was \Ivy Deaton:c1902\, married 1925, Deal, Kent [family album] Marriage registered Jan-Mar 1925, Jim Hodgkins, Ivy Deaton, Rotherham (district), 9c/931 [GRO] Died 11/03/1983, La Tene, Deal, Kent, at 7pm, found by Ivy. Industrial disease. [news clipping] [Post Mortem notes made by Ivy] Daughter: \Jean Hodgkins:1925\, Prospect House, The Street, Worth, Deal, Kent Birth registered Jul-Sep 1925, Rotherham (district), 9c/1367 [GRO] She married Leslie. \Anne Hodgkins:1904:1979\ Born 11/03/1904 (reg. as 09/03/1904), Selston, Nottinghamshire [place from death certificate]. Aged 7 in 1911; named 'Annie'; born c1904, Selston, Nottinghamshire; living at 4 George Square, Aston cum Aughton [1911C]. Worked as a Steel Inspector [death certificate]. Lived at "Quest", Aughton Lane, Aston, Sheffield [death certificate and other items] Died 04/12/1979, Northern General Hospital, Sheffield [death certificate]. Cause of death was Mycocardial (?)infarction(?) (infection? inflammation?), Ischaemic Heart Disease, certified by S.Quiyuin, registered 05/12/1979 by Kathleen. She never married [death certificate]. \Edith Hodgkins:1908\ Born 20/09/1908, (?)Kent(?) Lived in Derby Aged 3 in 1911; born c1907, Aughton, Yorkshire; living at 4 George Square, Aston cum Aughton [1911C]. Married \Lawrence Cheney:c1900:1973\ [RC] Lawrence died 31/07/1973, Derwent Hospital, Derby [newspaper obit] Children: \David Cheney\ ( lives in Derby ) David became South District Commissioner of the Scouts in Derby [news clipping, date unknown] Children: \Richard Cheney\ + \Nicola Cheney\. _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \John Cheney\ ( live in Derby ) Children: \Andy Cheney\ + a daughter \? Cheney\ (don't know name) _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \Harry Hodgkins:1911:1997\ Born 29/09/1911, Aston, Rotherham, confirmed by birth certificate Died early October 1997 (phone call occurred on day of Grandpa's (John Ward <7>) funeral that Harry had died, and thus occurred in early October 1997) Lived in Deal, Kent Wife was \Hilda _____:c1911\. Son: \Adrian Hodgkins\ (??/10/????) If the "Adrian" in my transcription is the same man, then he was born on 02/01/???? or 03/01/???? Adopted son: \Keith Hodgkins\ UNCONFIRMED possible marriage for Harry is to Hilda GAY, Dover (district), 2a/3894 [GRO] but MANY OTHER POSSIBILITIES also came up, so UNCONFIRMED. Notes: Kathleen kept extensive photos. I have a photo album of hers, including many pictures of herself, children David Ward and Christine Ward, and other Hodgkins. I also have a loose photo of her marriage to John Ward <7> and her passport issued 1970. _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ GRO birth index: Quarter: Mar 1917 Name: Kathleen Hodgkins Mothers maiden name: Cooper District: Rotherham Vol/Page: 9e/1250 Researched: 06/08/2003, Harris Library, Preston Certificate: Received in post 19/08/2003 Kathleen Hodgkins birth certificate (short) : I, the undersigned, Do hereby certify that the Birth of Kathleen Hodgkins born on the 18th day of January One thousand nine hundred and Seventeen has been duly registered by me at Entry No. 290 of my Register Book No. ____ Witness my hand this 14th day of February 1917 (sig) M.J.Lister District Rotherham Sub-district Aston Birth certificate (long) : REGISTRATION DISTRICT Rotherham 1917 in the Sub-district of Aston in the County of Yorks (W.R.) No When/where Name Sex Father Mother 290 Eighteenth January 1917 Kathleen Girl Henry Hodgkins Annie Hodgkins formerly Cooper 4 George Square Aughton R.D Occupation of father Informant (sig, description, residence) When reg Registrar Colliery Surface Man A.Hodgkins, Mother, 4 George Square Aughton Fourteenth February 1917 M J Lister Kathleen and Johns marriage certificate : The Parish Church of Aston in the County of Yorks When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence Fathers name Profession Oct 25th 1941 John Ward 28 Bachelor Electrician 19 High St Beighton John Ward Joiner Kathleen Hodgkins 24 Spinster - 8 Grange Ave Swallownest Henry Hodgkins Surface Wriher[?] (deceased) ...in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Church of England by - or after banns by... (witnesses) Frederick Ward, Arthur Hodgkins (sig) Arthur R Himer I, Arthur Redand Himer, Rector of Aston in the County[?] of Yak[?] do... ...opy of the Entry No 212 in the Register Book of Marriages of the said Church. Witness my hand this 25th day of October 1941 (sig) Arthur R Himer Harry Hodgkins birth certificate : I, the undersigned, Do hereby certify that the Birth of Harry Hodgkin born on the 29th day of September One thousand nine hundred and Eleven has been duly registered by me at Entry No. 459 of my Register Book No. [2? this is unclear] Witness my hand this 6th day of November 1911 (sig) M.J.Lister District Rotherham Sub-district Aston Annie Hodgkins death certificate : DEATH Entry No. 84 1. Date and place of death Fourth December 1979 Northern General Hospital, Sheffield 2. Name and surname Annie HODGKINS 3. Sex Female 4. Maiden surname of woman who has married --- 5. Date and place of birth Steel Inspector (retired) Quest, Aughton Lane, Aston, Sheffield. 7.(a) Name and surname of informant Kathleen WARD (b) Qualification Sister 8. Cause of death a myocardial infarction [infection?] b Ischaemic Heart Disease certified by S.Qaiyum M.B 9. I certify that the particulars given to me above are true to the best of my knowledge and belief Signature of informant (sig) K.Ward 10. Date of registration Fifth December 1979 11. Signature of registrar (sig) B.Hodgkinson Registrar David Ward's <4> birth certificate in 1944 states John Ward's <7> occupation as a Colliery Electrician. The place of birth is stated as the residence of the family (John <7> and Kathleen <6>) at 31 Rosemary Road, Beighton. The birth occurred at 3:20am. Dad: Kathleen Hodgkins ( Your grandma ) 17 Jan 1917 Grandma's brothers & sisters :- ^^^^^^^^^^^ YES, IT SAYS THE 17TH, IT'S WRONG. ****Albert Hodgkins 16 Sept 1898 - lived in Deal, Kent. Wife was Doris Hodgkins - lived at 38 Ethelbert Road, Deal, Kent. Nell Hodgkins 1 April 1900 **Jim Hodgkins 4 May 1902 - lived in Deal, Kent Wife was Ivy Hodgkins. Anne Hodgkins 11 March 1904 ***Edith Hodgkins 20 Sept 1908 ( lived in Derby ) *****Harry Hodgkins 29 Sept 1911 lived in Deal, Kent. Wife was Hilda Hodgkins Notes :- ** Allan Hodgkins 24 St Andrews Road, Deal, Kent -son of Jim Hodgkins Jean ? Married Leslie ? Prospect House, The Street,Worth, Deal, Kent.daughter if Jim Hodgkins Brian Hodgkins 78 West Street, Deal, Kent; son of " *** sons of Edith Cheney - nee Hodgkins ( grandma's sister ) who married Lawrence Cheney :- John Cheney ( live in Derby ) children Andy Cheney + a daughter (don't know name ) David Cheney ( live in Derby ) children - Richard Cheney & Nicola Cheney. **** Peter Hodgkins, 21 Wellington Road, Deal, Kent - son of Albert Hodgkins **** Angela Thomas ( married name ) 5 Cavell Square Deal, Kent - daughter of Albert Hodgkins.??? ***** Keith Hodgkins - adopted son of Harry Hodgkins. My transcription of same source (family bible) : [first piece of paper] Albert Hodgkins Born September 16th (10th?) 1898 [W|A][e?o?]lis Hodgkins Born April 1st 1900 [Dad transcribed this as Nell, entirely possible it says 'Nellie'] Jim Hodgkins Born May 4th [190_ crossed out] 1902 Annie Hodgkins 'registered 9' Born 11th March 1904 but registered 9th Edith Hodgkins Born September 20th 1908 [also the number '2' above the year, not sure what what that connects to] - [other side] Kathleen Hodgkins Born January 17.1.1917 Harry Hodgkins Born September 29th (1911) [number 2 crossed out] - [2nd piece of paper] Peter Hodgkins Born December 11th 19[2 or 3, prob 3]5 Allan Hodgkins Born June 9th 1937 Brian Hodgkins Born 5th February 194[0? 6?, prob 0] Michael Hodgkins born 15th October 1943 [J?]anet Hodgkins Born January 23rd 1946 Adrian Born October (Jan [2? 3?] Born) [new page] Albert Hodgkins married December 7th 1935 1911 Census - Henry Hodgkins, Annie Hodgkins (Annie Cooper); children Albert, Nellie, Jim, Annie, Edith; brother-in-law James Cooper (brother of Annie Cooper) --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN28039 RG78PN1602 RD511 SD1 ED3 SN331 Schedule Number: 331 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Yorkshire West Riding District: Rotherham Subdistrict: Aston Enumeration District: 3 Parish: Aston cum Aughton -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Henry Hodgkins Head M 43 Married 13 Coal Miner, Hewer Worker Stafford, Ogley Hay c1868 <41> Annie Hodgkins Wife F 36 Married 13 5 5 0 Worcester, Netherton c1875 Annie Cooper <42> Albert Hodgkins Son M 12 School Yorks, Woodhouse Mill c1899 <<6>> Nellie Hodgkins Daughter F 11 School Yorks, Swallow nest c1900 <<6>> Jim Hodgkins Son M 8 School Notts, Selston c1903 <<6>> Annie Hodgkins Daughter F 7 School Notts, Selston c1904 <<6>> Edith Hodgkins Daughter F 3 School Yorks, Aughton c1907 <<6>> James Cooper Boarder M 24 Single Coal Miner Filler Worker Yorks, Aston c1887 <<42>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 4 Signature (sig) Henry Hodgkins Postal Address 4 George Square --------------------------------------------------------- 1901 census information: PRO Reference RG Number, Series RG13 Piece 4390 Folio 55 Page 45 Schedule Number 251 Location: Address Swallownest Civil Parish Aston Cum Aughton Rural District -- Town or Village or Hamlet Swallownest Parliamentary Borough or Division Rotherham Ecclesiastical Parish All Saints Administrative County Yorkshire County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District -- Ward of Municipal Borough or Urban District -- Henry Hodgkins, 33, Coal Miner Hewer, born Staffordshire Ann Hodgkins, 26, born Worcestershire Albert Hodgkins, 2, born Yorks Woodhouse Mill Nellie Hodgkins, 1, born Yorks Swallownest Henry Hodgkins <41> is recorded on Kathleen Hodgkins <6> birth certificate in 1917 as a "Colliery Surface Man" (Colliery Surface Manager?). He and Annie <42> were in residence at 4 George Square, Aughton, where Kathleen was born. 1837online.com births search for Albert Hodgkins (30/10/2003) : Sep 1898 HOD/1 -- Dec 1898 HOD/2 HODGKINS, Albert, Sheffield, 9c/672 HODGKINS, Albert William, Kensington, 1a/102 GRO birth index: Quarter: Dec 1898 Name: Albert Hodgkins Mothers maiden name: ??? District: Sheffield Vol/Page: 9c/672 Researched: 30/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 31/10/2003 ; Received 07/11/2003. Birth of Albert Hodgkins <<6>> : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Sheffield 1898 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Handsworth in the County of York No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 57 Sixteenth September 1898 Albert Boy Henry Ann Coal Miner Ann Hodgkins Twenty Fifth John Hardcastle Woodhouse Mill UD Hodgkins Hodgkins Mother October 1898 Registrar formerly Swallownest Cooper ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1837online.com marriages search for Albert Hodgkins (30/10/2003) : Dec 1935 HOD/2/1 HODGKINS, Albert G., ROBERTS, Evesham, 6c/555 (6o?) ??????????????? Mar 1936 HOD/2 -- 1837online.com births search for Edith Hodgkins (30/10/2003) : Sep 1908 HOD/1 -- Dec 1908 HOD/1 -- 1837online.com births search for Nell Hodgkins (30/10/2003) : Jun 1900 HOD/2 HODGKINS, Nellie, Rotherham, 9c/705 GRO birth index: Quarter: Jun 1900 Name: Nellie Hodgkins Mothers maiden name: ??? District: Rotherham Vol/Page: 9c/705 Researched: 30/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 31/10/2003 ; Received 07/11/2003. Birth of Nellie Hodgkins <<6>> : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Rotherham 1900 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Aston in the County of York No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 246 First April 1900 Nellie Girl Henry Ann Coal Miner A Hodgkins Seventh May 1900 H J Lister Swallownest Aston RD Hodgkins Hodgkins Mother Registrar formerly Swallownest Cooper Aston ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1837online.com births search for Jim Hodgkins (30/10/2003) : Jun 1902 HOD/1 HODGKINS, James, Kidderminster, 6c/227 HODGKINS, Jim, Basford, 7b/188 ????????????????? Sep 1902 HOD/2 -- 1837online.com deaths search for Nell Hodgkins (30/10/2003) : Dec 1969 HOD/2/1&2 HODGKINS, Nellie, 01/04/1900, Sheffield, 2d/87 GRO death index: Quarter: Dec 1969 Name: Nellie Hodgkins <<6>> Age/DOB: 01/04/1900 District: Sheffield Vol/Page: 2d/87 Researched: 30/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Not ordered. 1837online.com births search for Anne Hodgkins (30/10/2003) : Mar 1904 HOD/2 HODGKINS, Annie Elizabeth, Stafford, 6b/16 Jun 1904 HOD/1 HODGKINS, Annie, Besford (Basford?), 7b/170 ??????????????? 1837online.com births search for Harry Hodgkins (30/10/2003) : Sep 1911 HOD/2/1 -- Dec 1911 HOD/2/1 HODGKINS, Harry, COOPER, Rotherham, 9c/1390 GRO birth index: Quarter: Dec 1911 Name: Harry Hodgkins Mothers maiden name: Cooper District: Rotherham Vol/Page: 9c/1390 Researched: 30/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 31/10/2003 ; Received 07/11/2003. Birth of Harry Hodgkins <<6>> : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Rotherham 1911 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Aston in the County of Yorks (W.R) No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 459 Twenty ninth September 1911 Harry Boy Henry Ann Coal Miner A Hodgkins Sixth November H J Lister 4 George Square Aughton RD Hodgkins Hodgkins Mother 1911 Registrar formerly 4 George Square Cooper Aughton ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /=============================================================================/ ID: <7> Status: D Name: \John ("Jack") Ward\ dads dad Gender: M Gen: -2 Position: 000 Born: 13/01/1913, Eckington, Chesterfield [confirmed by birth certificate] Married: 25/10/1941, Aston, from marriage certificate, recorded occupation is Electrician He lived at 19 High St, Beighton, Sheffield, Yorkshire. Father is recorded as John Ward, a Joiner. Witnesses were Albert Hodgkins (<6>'s brother) and (Kednuck? Redilick?) Ward (John's brother?). Died: 30/09/1997 Buried in Aston cemetary, Aston, Yorkshire - I think - possibly Beighton cemetary (Beighton, Sheffield, Yorkshire) Partner: <6> Child: <3> Child: <5> Father: <45> Mother: <44> Sibling: \Mary Elizabeth Ward:1908:2008\ Born 17/10/1908 Died 21/04/2008 Aged 2 in 1911; Born c1909, Beighton, Derbyshire; Living at High Street, Beighton [1911C] Lived at Beighton. Visible as a baby in group family photo featuring Hilda Ward (Glover) <44> (photo in Bedgreave Mill doc). She and sister Hilda lived together on Huigh St, Beighton. In older age Hilda would see well but was a bit deaf while Mary couldn't see well but had good hearing - they made a good team. Mary was a school teacher at Beighton School with her friend and later headteacher Betty Hall. (See http://www.ourbeighton.org.uk/template.aspx?itemid=1850) She started as a teacher there in 1929 and retired 46 years later in 1975. She had a good memory for faces. Present at the death of grandfather Williamson Glover <56>, George and Dragon Hotel, Beighton, in 1933. [cert] She was actively involved with her local church, St Mary's. Mary went into a home - Aughton Grange? - in about the mid to late 1990's. Died morning of 21/04/2008 - she didn't quite make it to 100. Funeral service held at 12.15pm at the Methodist Bethel Chapel (on Robin Lane) in Beighton on Wednesday 30/04/2008 - her local church St Mary's was closed for renovations. She is buried in Beighton Cemetary on School Lane (opposite no. 114), Beighton - grave is on the fifth row on the left hand side, near the end, next to that of one Arnold Gibson. The funeral director was George Mirfin & Son, Manvers Road, Beighton, a distant cousin of Mary's. Sister Bessie was ill and could not attend the funeral. =============================================== From Christine <5> : Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:25:11 +0100 [23/04/08 20:25:11 BST] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Subject: Auntie Mary Hi there. Sorry to send sad news, Auntie Mary died on Monday morning. didnt quite make 100. My cousin John rang on Monday evening he said Auntie Hilda has taken it quite well. He had been to Derby to empty Auntie Bessies flat ,she went into a home last week. I hope the funeral will be before we go to Cyprus next Thurs. Hope you are well Love Auntie Chris & Uncle Rickxx =============================================== \Arthur Ward:1910:1995\ Born 22/07/1910 Died 27(?)/02/1995 Aged 8 months in 1911; Born c1910, Beighton, Derbyshire; Living at High Street, Beighton [1911C] \Hilda Ward:1915:2009\ Born 31/03/1915, 85 High St, Beighton Died 29/12/2009, funeral 11/01/2010 at 1.30pm. She and sister Mary lived together on High St, Beighton. In older age Hilda would see well but was a bit deaf while Mary couldn't see well but had good hearing - they made a good team. Mary went into a home in about the mid to late 1990's, leaving Hilda living on her own. Mary later died in 2008, preceding Hilda's death by a year. \Fred Ward:1918:2003\ Born 16/03/1918 Died 12/10/2003 (funeral 21/10/2003, Beighton) \Bessie Ward:1921\ Born 14/04/1921, 85 High St, Beighton; Twin to Francis _LK-2021_ _PUBLIC_ \Francis Ward:1921:1924\ Born 14/04/1921; Twin to Bessie, therefore presumably also born at 85 High St, Beighton. Died age 2 yrs 10 months (so approx February 1924) \Joyce Ward:D:1925:1990\ Born 26/07/1925 and died 27/08/1990 (according to Hilda) Born 25/07/1925 and died 30/08/1990 according to my transcript of a conversation I had with Mervyn [mervyn] Dad <3> said she died in her 60's, heart attack behind the wheel of a car, Mervyn confirms this [dad, mervyn] Married to \Mervyn Esgar Pillinger:1924\ _LK-2024_ _PUBLIC_ He was at one point was general manager of the Booth and Fisher bus company, from 1940 [mervyn] (after being in the air force for 5 years) [mervyn] Mervyn had a brother (elder brother), \Raymond Esgar Pillinger\ [mervyn] Mervyns father was \Frank Pillinger:c1891\ [mervyn] Frank died (c?)1960 aged 69 (so born c1891) [mervyn] Frank moved to Killamarsh to live with aunt [mervyn] Frank lived in Denby Dale [mervyn] Frank had brothers: [mervyn] \Harry Pillinger\ (invalid, died young) [mervyn] \Tom Pillinger\, elder brother to Frank, in army in WW1 [mervyn] Tom has/had 2 daughters [mervyn] _LK-2024_ _PUBLIC_ See http://www.busandcoachenthusiast.co.uk/fleethistories/booth.htm for info on Booth and Fisher and http://www.j31.co.uk/booth.htm for some info on the booth family Notes: I have a loose photo of his marriage to Kathleen Hodgkins <6> and his passport issued 1970. GRO birth index: Quarter: Mar 1913 Name: John Ward Mothers maiden name: Glover District: Chesterfield Vol/Page: 7b/1514 Researched: 06/08/2003, Harris Library, Preston Certificate: Received in post 19/08/2003 Birth certificate (short) : I, the undersigned, Do hereby certify that the Birth of John Ward born on the 13th day of January One thousand nine hundred and Thirteen has been duly registered by me at Entry No. 25 of my Register Book No. 46 Witness my hand this 13th day of February 1913 (sig) A.Jackson District CHESTERFIELD Sub-district ECKINGTON Birth certificate (long) : REGISTRATION DISTRICT Chesterfield 1913 in the Sub-district of Eckington in the County of Derby No When/where Name Sex Father Mother 25 Thirteenth January 1913 John Boy John Ward Hilda Ward formerly Glover 85 High Street Beighton R.D Occupation of father Informant (sig, description, residence) When reg Registrar Joiner (journeyman) Hilda Ward, Mother, 85 High Street Beighton Thirteenth February 1913 Arthur Jackson Kathleen and Johns marriage certificate : The Parish Church of Aston in the County of Yorks When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence Fathers name Profession Oct 25th 1941 John Ward 28 Bachelor Electrician 19 High St Beighton John Ward Joiner Kathleen Hodgkins 24 Spinster - 8 Grange Ave Swallownest Henry Hodgkins Surface Wriher[?] (deceased) ...in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Church of England by - or after banns by... (witnesses) Frederick Ward, Arthur Hodgkins (sig) Arthur R Himer I, Arthur Redand Himer, Rector of Aston in the County[?] of Yak[?] do... ...opy of the Entry No 212 in the Register Book of Marriages of the said Church. Witness my hand this 25th day of October 1941 (sig) Arthur R Himer John Wards <7> birth certificate in 1913 says he was born at 85 High Street, Beighton, the family home of parents John Ward <45> and Hilda Glover <44>. John Ward senior <45> is described as a "Joiner (Journeyman)". David Ward's <4> birth certificate in 1944 states John Ward's <7> occupation as a Colliery Electrician. The place of birth is stated as the residence of the family (John <7> and Kathleen <6>) at 31 Rosemary Road, Beighton. The birth occurred at 3:20am. Booth Michael (michael2002york@yahoo.co.uk) says on Mervyn and Joyce: On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:43:10 +0100 (BST), Booth Michael wrote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yep, Mervyn Pillinger was general manager of Booth and Fisher's and was my dad's first cousin. His mother was my great-aunt, Hilda Booth, sister of the founders of Booth and Fisher. She married Frank Pillinger, father of Mervyn and, I think, Raymond. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Also relating into the tree, and connected with the Wards, are Susan and Alan (Green?), with daughter Nicole. It is unclear yet how they relate in, however. In 1912, Bernard Ward <<90>> wrote a letter (on paper headed "Bernard Ward", "BERNARD WARD, HOG SALESMAN, 26, CHARNWOOD STREET, DERBY.") dated 12/06/1912 to 'Jack' (actually John <45>). It contains a statement that 'Jack' is married, and an implication that 'Jack' has a nine month old daughter: "glad to hear that you are happily married + comfortable. she is a bonny girl of nine months. should think you are both proud of her" 1911 Census - John Ward, Hilda Ward (Hilda Glover), children Mary Ward, Arthur Ward --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN21131 RG78PN1259 RD438 SD4 ED1 SN238 Schedule Number: 238 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Derbyshire District: Chesterfield Subdistrict: Eckington Enumeration District: 1 Parish: Beighton -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Ward Head M 26 Married Three Two Two None Joiner Builder Worker Derby c1885 <45> Hilda Ward Wife F 24 Married Three Beighton Derbyshire c1887 Hilda Glover <44> Mary Ward Daughter F 2 years Beighton Derbyshire c1909 <<7>> Arthur Ward Son M 8 mths Beighton Derbyshire c1910 <<7>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 4 Signature (sig) John Ward Postal Address High Street, Beighton, nr Sheffield --------------------------------------------------------- = Search for death of Joyce Ward in 1837online.com Mar 1961 WAR/1/3 WARD, Joyce, age 19, Leigh, 10d/73 Jun 1961 WAR/1/3 -- Sep 1961 WAR/1/3 -- Dec 1961 WAR/1/3 -- Mar 1962 WAR/1/4 -- Jun 1962 WAR/2/2 -- Sep 1962 WAR/2/2 -- Dec 1962 WAR/2/2 -- Mar 1963 WAR/2/2 -- Jun 1963 WAR/2/1 WARD, Joyce R.A., age 35 [85?], Malbun [Malbon?], 4a/651 Missed any WARDE's above ? Sep 1963 WAR/2/1 -- Dec 1963 WAR/2/1 -- Mar 1964 WAR/2/1 WARD, Joyce D., age 34, Smethwick [Smeihwick?], 9b/478 Jun 1964 WAR/2/1 -- Search for death of Joyce Pillinger in 1837online.com Mar 1959 PIL/2 -- Jun 1959 PIL/1 -- Sep 1959 PIL/1 -- Dec 1959 PIL/1 -- Mar 1960 PIL/2 -- Jun 1960 PIL/2 -- Sep 1960 PIL/1 -- Dec 1960 PIL/2 -- Mar 1961 PIL/2 -- Jun 1961 PIL/1 -- Sep 1961 PIL/2 -- Dec 1961 PIL/1 -- Mar 1962 PIL/1 -- Jun 1962 PIL/1 -- Reported fault: Deaths April-June 1962, PIK-PIN, page 1 Image does not download from server. Other images for quarters and surnames around this download fine. Problem occurred consistently over multiple attempts. Update: Eventually got the image - after temporarily disabling the firewall! Looks strongly like getting the image was causing process SYMPROXYSVC.EXE to leap up and take up 60-70% of the CPU, and also block the image somehow, though no security alerts were raised and nothing of note appears in the firewall events log. Sep 1962 PIL/1 -- Dec 1962 PIL/1 -- Mar 1963 PIL/2 -- Sep 1963 PIL/2 PILLINGER, Merrillion, age 92, Southport, 10f/534 Is this Mervyn???? Dec 1963 PIL/1 -- Mar 1964 PIL/1 -- Jun 1964 PIL/1 -- Sep 1964 PIL/2 -- Dec 1964 PIL/1 -- Mar 1965 PIL/2 -- Jun 1965 PIL/2 -- Sep 1965 PIL/2 -- Dec 1965 PIL/1 -- Mar 1966 PIL/2 -- Jun 1966 PIL/1 -- Sep 1966 PIL/1 -- Dec 1966 PIL/1 -- Mar 1967 PIL/2 PILLINGER, Cissie H., age 80, Lewisham, 50/300 Jun 1967 PIL/2 -- Sep 1967 PIL/2 -- Dec 1967 PIL/1 -- Mar 1968 PIL/2 -- Jun 1968 PIL/1 -- Sep 1969 PIL/2 -- Dec 1969 PIL/2 -- Mar 1970 PIL/2 -- Jun 1970 PIL/2 -- Sep 1970 PIL/1 -- Dec 1970 PIL/2 -- Mar 1971 PIL/2 -- Jun 1971 PIL/2 -- Sep 1971 PIL/2 -- Dec 1971 PIL/1 -- Mar 1972 PIL/1 -- Jun 1972 PIL/2 -- Sep 1972 PIL/2 -- Dec 1972 PIL/2 -- Mar 1973 PIL/1 -- Jun 1973 PIL/2 -- Sep 1973 PIL/2 -- Dec 1973 PIL/2 -- = /=============================================================================/ ID: <8> Status: D Name: \Beatrice Margaret Knapton\ mums mum Gender: F Gen: -2 Position: 011 Born: 04/12/1912, 10 Victoria Gardens, Horsforth, Leeds, 11-5pm Baptised 04/05/1913, Farsley Parish Church Reverend Edwin B. Brown, Sponsors Maria Knapton and Lizzie Knapton Married: 18/01/1937, Farsley Divorced c1950 Died: 28/04/2001 Cremated in Yorkshire Partner: <9> Child: <4> Child: <11> Father: <30> Mother: <29> Sibling: Half-brother: Dennis Marshall Knapton <99> Half-sister: Sylvia Millicent Knapton <<99>> Half-sister: Phyllis Knapton <<99>> Notes: GRO birth index: Quarter: Dec 1912 Name: Beatrice M. Knapton Mothers maiden name: Phillips District: Wharfedale Vol/Page: 9a/208 Researched: 09/08/2003, Harris Library, Preston Certificate: Ordered 27/10/2003. Received 06/11/2003. From Greville: Birth Certificate Reference: Hors/32/199 Beatrice Margaret Knaptons <8> birth certificate: ---- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Wharfedale 1912 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Horsforth in the County of Yorks (W.R.) No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registar 199 Fourth Beatrice Boy Harry Beatrice Engineers H.Knapton Thirtieth Seth Morfett December 1912 Margaret Knapton May Draughtsman Father December 1912 Registar 10 Victoria Gardens Knapton Beck Bottom Horsforth formerly Farsley Phillips ---- Search on 1837online.com for marriage (30/10/2003) : Mar 1937 KNA/2 KNAPTON, Beatrice M., WATSON, N.Bierley, 9b/29 WAT/2/3 WATSON, Thomas, KNAPTON, N.Bierley, 9b/29 GRO marriage index: Quarter: Mar 1937 Grooms Name: Thomas Watson <9> Brides Name: Beatrice M. Knapton <8> District: N.Bierley Vol/Page: 9b/29 Researched: 30/10/2003, 1827online.com Certificate: Ordered 31/10/2003 ; Received 07/11/2003. Beatrice Margaret Knaptons <8> and Thomas Watasons <9> marriage certificate: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1937 Marriage solumnized at The Parish Church in the Parish of Farsley in the County of York No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 3 18th Jan 1937 Thomas Watson 30 Bachelor Engineer Shirley Road, Rushden, Northants Alfred Thomas Watson Engineer Beatrice Margaret Knapton 29 Spinster Ellesmere, Old Rd, Farsley Harry Knapton Draughtsman Married in the Above Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Ch of England by -- or after banns by me (sig) ?. Rivellay Vicar This Marriage in the was solumnized (sig) Thomas Watson Presence (sig) Eric P. Williams between us (sig) Beatrice Margaret Knapton of us (sig) Peggy Shipley {{ Eric Williams and Peggy Shipley are featured in the wedding photographs and press cuttings of the wedding. Peggy Shipley was sole bridesmaid. }} {{ Alfred Watson was also present at the wedding, but Harry Knapton was absent due to illness. Lizzie Knapton "gave the bride away" in his stead. }} ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Search on 1837online.com for Beatrices' death (30/10/2003) : WATSON, MARGARET BEATRICE 4 December 1912 NTH YORKSHRE 2001 April District No 6501Q Reg No Q2 Ent No 060 Dor 401 GRO death index: Month: Apr 2001 Name: Margaret Beatrice Watson <8> Age/DOB: 04/12/1912 District: Nth Yorkshire Vol/Page: District No 6501Q Reg No Q2 Ent No 060 Dor 401 Researched: 30/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 31/10/2003 ; Received 07/11/2003. Death of Margaret Watson <8> : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DEATH Entry No. 60 Registration district : North Yorkshire Sub-district : North Yorkshire Administrative area : County of North Yorkshire 1. Date and place of death Twenty-eighth April 2001 Dales Nursing Home, Draughton. 2. Name and surname Margaret Beatrice WATSON 3. Sex Female 4. Maiden surname of woman who has married KNAPTON 5. Date and place of birth 4th December 1912 Horsforth, Leeds, West Yorkshire. 6. Occupation and usual address Dales Nursing Home, Draughton, Skipton, North Yorkshire. 7.(a) Name and surname of informant Greville Thomas Michell WATSON 7.(b) Qualification Son 7.(c) Usual address 25 Byron Crescent, Rushden, Northamptonshire. 8. Cause of death 1(a) Left Ventricular Failure (b) Ischaemic Heart Disease Certified by A Bundock MB 9. I specify that the particulars given by me above are true to the best of my knowledge and belief G T M Watson 10. Date of registration Thirtieth April 2001 11. Signature of registrar Sarah F Clay Registrar ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Diane Watson's <4> birth certificate in 1942 states Thomas Watson's <9> occupation as a Gas Engineer. The place of birth is stated as the residence of the family (Thomas <9> and Beatrice <8>) at Shirley Road, Rushden. Greville: With regard to my mother ... Born on 04/12/1912, her mother, Beatrice May Philips, died 11 days after her birth, on 15th Dec. Beatrice Margaret was brought up by her aunts -- sisters of her father Harry Knapton. There were 3 sisters (but I only knew 2 of them), but how soon after the death of Beatrice May they took the responsibility, and whether it was a legal adoption, I do not know. I saw my grandfather Harry on only a few occasions. I remember him visiting his sisters on one occasion, but he lived in Aston, Birmingham, with his second wife Beatrice Maud Hanley, where he had an engineering business, and we visited I suppose a couple of times from Rushden and slept on a mattress on the floor in the bedrooms over the shop. (Funny how Harry seemed to like the name 'Beatrice M' !!). From Greville (07/08/2003): Nothing spectacular [from birth certificate] on Beatrice Margaret Knapton - Born at 10 Victoria Gardens, Horsforth Her father (Harry) is shown residing at Beck Bottom, Farsley - the family home no doubt. -- "Confirmed" on 10th April 1930 at Farsley Parish Church [from certificate in front of confirmation book given to her on the day by the vicar] On 14/01/2004, on Hugh Knaptons advice, I ordered the birth certificate of a Dennis Marshall Knapton, born 1921. Registration district North Bierley 1921 birth in the sub-disrtrict of Pudsey in the county of Yorks (W.R.) Name: Dennis Marshall Born: First July 1921 (the word Eleventh was written, but crossed out, and there is also the number 10 seems to have been written between the word First and the crossed out Eleventh, whatever that may mean) 39 New Street, Pudsey Sex: Boy Father: Harry Knapton, Draughtsman (Electrical Engineer) Mother: Beatrice Maud Knapton formerly Hawley Informant: Harry Knapton, Father, 36 New Street, Pudsey (note the different house number to where Dennis was born, they definitely say 39 and 36 respectively) Registered: Eleventh July 1921 Registrar: H.Halliday, deputy registrar (*all* other certs I've seen have said 'Registrar' rather than 'Deputy', so this is interesting in itself to me :o) I immediately noticed Harry and Beatrice Knapton here and wondered if he was related to the Harry Knapton in my tree. At first I discounted it, but then realised two things: (i) the name Marshall would be something of a coincidence, and (ii) that Beatrice May Phillips, my great-grandmother and wife of my Harry Knapton, died in 1912. That means that Harry could easily have re-married to Beatrice Maud Hawley by 1921. I also know from Harry's marriage to my great-grandmother that he was a draughtsman. He didn't die until 1953. I also know he had a prediliction for 'Beatrice M's - he married Beatrice May Phillips in 1911, and named my grandmother Beatrice Margaret. It wouldn't surprise me if he later re-married a Beatrice Maud... There seem to be too many coincidences here to write off - Dennis could be [is, according to greville] my grandmothers half-brother! /=============================================================================/ ID: <9> Status: D Name: \Thomas Watson\ mums dad (known as Tom) Gender: M Gen: -2 Position: 010 Born: 29/11/1906, Wellingborough, Northants Married: Beatrice Knapton <8> : 18/01/1937, Farsley Divorced c1950 ([grev]: c1955, probably 1955, possibly early 1956) Gweneth Clark <20> : 21/03/1957, Park Road Methodist Church, Rushden [grev] Formerly Thomas' housekeeper who he re-married. Died: 30/06/1980, Kettering, Northants Partner: <8>, <20> Child: <4> (by <8>) Child: <11> (by <8>) Father: <31> Mother: <32> Sibling: ??? Notes: GRO birth index: Quarter: Dec 1906 Name: Thomas Watson Mothers maiden name: -- District: Wellingbro' Vol/Page: 3b/122 Researched: 09/08/2003, Harris Library, Preston Certificate: Ordered 27/10/2003. Received 06/11/2003. Thomas Watson (b. 29-Nov-1906, d. 30-Jun-1980) m. 21-Mar-1957 Gweneth Elizabeth Clark (b. 08-Mar-1921) [grev] Thomas Watsons birth certificate: ---- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Wellingborough 1906 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Wellingborough in the County of Northampton No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registar 222 Twenty ninth Thomas Boy Alfred Alice Assistant Gas Alfred Thomas Seventeenth {unreadable} November 1906 Thomas Prout Manager Watson December 1906 Registar 55 Elsden Road Watson Watson Father Wellingborough formerly 55 Elsden Road Michell Wellingborough ---- Search on 1837online.com for marriage (30/10/2003) : Mar 1937 KNA/2 KNAPTON, Beatrice M., WATSON, N.Bierley, 9b/29 WAT/2/3 WATSON, Thomas, KNAPTON, N.Bierley, 9b/29 GRO marriage index: Quarter: Mar 1937 Grooms Name: Thomas Watson <9> Brides Name: Beatrice M. Knapton <8> District: N.Bierley Vol/Page: 9b/29 Researched: 30/10/2003, 1827online.com Certificate: Ordered 31/10/2003 ; Received 07/11/2003. Beatrice Margaret Knaptons <8> and Thomas Watasons <9> marriage certificate: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1937 Marriage solumnized at The Parish Church in the Parish of Farsley in the County of York No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 3 18th Jan 1937 Thomas Watson 30 Bachelor Engineer Shirley Road, Rushden, Northants Alfred Thomas Watson Engineer Beatrice Margaret Knapton 29 Spinster Ellesmere, Old Rd, Farsley Harry Knapton Draughtsman Married in the Above Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Ch of England by -- or after banns by me (sig) ?. Rivellay Vicar This Marriage in the was solumnized (sig) Thomas Watson Presence (sig) Eric P. Williams between us (sig) Beatrice Margaret Knapton of us (sig) Peggy Shipley {{ Eric Williams and Peggy Shipley are featured in the wedding photographs and press cuttings of the wedding. Peggy Shipley was sole bridesmaid. }} {{ Alfred Watson was also present at the wedding, but Harry Knapton was absent due to illness. Lizzie Knapton "gave the bride away" in his stead. }} ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Search on 1837online.com for Thomas' death (30/10/2003) : Jun 1980 WAT/2/3 WATSON, Thomas, 29/11/1906, Kettering, 7/2174 GRO death index: Quarter: Jun 1980 Name: Thomas Watson <9> Age/DOB: 29/11/1906 District: Kettering Vol/Page: 7/2174 Researched: 30/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 31/10/2003 ; Received 07/11/2003. Death of Thomas Watson <9> : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DEATH Entry No. 294 Registration district : Kettering Sub-district : Kettering Administrative area : County of Northamptonshire 1. Date and place of death Thirtieth June 1980 General Hospital Kettering 2. Name and surname Thomas WATSON 3. Sex Male 4. Maiden surname of woman who has married -- 5. Date and place of birth 29th November 1906 Wellingborough, Northants. 6. Occupation and usual address Engineer (Retired) 22 Knuston Spinney, Irchester, Northants 7.(a) Name and surname of informant Greville Thomas Michell WATSON 7.(b) Qualification Son 7.(c) Usual Address 25 Byron Crescent, Rushden, Northants. 8. Cause of death 1a. Acute Mycardial Infarction (Inflammation?) b. Atherosclerosis Certified by D.S.Dhande M.D. 9. I specify that the particulars given by me above are true to the best of my knowledge and belief (sig) G.T.M.Watson 10. Date of registration Thirtieth June 1980 11. Signature of registrar I.Ingman Registrar ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Diane Watson's <4> birth certificate in 1942 states Thomas Watson's <9> occupation as a Gas Engineer. The place of birth is stated as the residence of the family (Thomas <9> and Beatrice <8>) at Shirley Road, Rushden. Thomas Watson and Beatrice Knapton <8> divorced c.1950, a time when it was controversial. Daughter Diane <4> moved with Beatrice to Leeds, while Greville <11> stayed in Northamptonshire. Thomas was busy as a manager at the gas works, and he employed a housekeeper, Gwen. He and Gwen subsequently married. 1911 Census - Alfred Watson, Alice Watson, son Thomas Watson --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN8529 RG78PN441 RD166 SD1 ED21 SN212 Schedule Number: 212 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Northamptonshire District: Wellingborough Subdistrict: Wellingborough Enumeration District: 21 Parish: Wellingborough -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alfred Watson Head M 29 Married Assistant Gas Works Manager Worker Gibraltar Spain (resident) c1882 <31> Alice Watson Wife F 30 Married 5 1 1 0 Penzance Cornwall c1883 Alice Prout Michell <32> Thomas Watson Son M 4 Wellingborough Northants c1907 <9> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 6 Signature (sig) Alfd Watson Postal Address Trewithen/Spewithen(?), Castle St, Wellingborough --------------------------------------------------------- /=============================================================================/ ID: <10> Status: L (Private) /==============================================================================/ ID: <11> Status: L (Private) /==============================================================================/ ID: <12> Status: D Name: \Jean Ruby Arthur\ Auntie Jean Gender: M Gen: -1 Position: 01#* Born: 11/01/1945 Married: 12/06/1965 Died: 19/11/2005, 1:30pm [karen] Funeral on 25/11/2005 at 1pm [karen] Partner: <11> Child: <13> Child: <14> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: 1837online.com births (30/10/2003) : Mar 1945 ART/1 ARTHUR, Jean R., PARKER, Bedford, 3b/542 GRO birth index: Quarter: Mar 1945 Name: Jean R. Arthur <12> Mothers maiden name: Parker District: Bedford Vol/Page: 3b/542 Researched: 30/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 31/10/2003 ; Received 07/11/2003. Birth of Jean Arthur <12> : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Bedford 1945 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Bedford in the County of Bedford No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 7 Eleventh January 1945 Jean Ruby Girl Stanley Ruby Gardener of S.C.Arthur Twenty fifth ???? ____ _____ ______ {unreadable} Charles Arthur 15 Market Square Father January 1945 Registrar Arthur formerly Higham Ferrers 15 Market Square Parker Northants Higham Ferrers Northants ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1837online.com marriages (30/10/2003) : Jun 1965 ART/1 ARTHUR, Jean R., WATSON, Wellingboro', 3b/1470 WAT/2/2 WATSON, Greville T.M., Wellingboro', 3b/1470 GRO marriage index: Quarter: Jun 1965 Grooms Name: Greville T.M. Watson <11> Brides Name: Jean R. Arthur <12> District: Wellingboro' Vol/Page: 3b/1470 Researched: 30/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 31/10/2003 ; Received 07/11/2003. Marriage of Greville Watson <11> and Jean Arthur <12> : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1965 Marriage solumnized at the Methodist Church, Park Road, Rushden in the District of Wellingborough in the County of Northampton No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 34 Twelth of June 1965 Greville Thomas Michell Watson 21 yrs Bachelor Policeman 22, Knuston Spinney, Irchester Thomas Watson Development Engineer Jean Ruby Arthur 20 yrs Spinster Shoe Machinist 16, Crabb Street, Rushden Stanley Charles Arthur _____man (???) Married in the Above Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Methodist Church by Certificate This Marriage in the was solumnized (sig) G.T.M.Watson Presence (sig) S.C.Arthur And in the (sig) John W. Jeark between us (sig) J.R.Arthur of us (sig) Thos. Watson presence of Authorised person for the Paul(?) Church {{ So, both Thomas Watson and Stanley Arthur were present at the wedding. }} ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Jean Ruby Watson Birth Date: 11 Jan 1945 Death Registration Month/Year: Nov 2005 Age at death (estimated): 60 Registration district: Wellingborough Inferred County: Northamptonshire Register number: 59C District and Subdistrict: 673/1 Entry number: 246 Source Information: Ancestry.com. England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007. Original data: General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration Indexes. London, England: General Register Office. © Crown copyright. Published by permission of the Controller of HMSO and the Office for National Statistics. You must not copy on, transfer or reproduce records without the prior permission of ONS. Indexes created by the General Register Office, in London, England. /=============================================================================/ ID: <13> Status: L (Private) /==============================================================================/ ID: <14> Status: L (Private) /==============================================================================/ ID: <15> Status: L (Private) /==============================================================================/ ID: <16> Status: L (Private) /==============================================================================/ ID: <17> Status: L (Private) /==============================================================================/ ID: <18> Status: L (Private) /==============================================================================/ ID: <19> Status: L (Private) /==============================================================================/ ID: <20> Status: D Name: \Gweneth Elizabeth Clark\ Gender: F Gen: -2 Position: 010* Born: 08/03/1921, Rushden [grev] Married: 21/03/1957, Park Road Methodist Church, Rushden [grev] Died: 03/02/2006 (approx) [karen] Funeral on 10/02/2006 at 2:45pm [karen] Partner: <9> Child: none known Father: /Leonard Clark/ [grev] Mother: /Emily Partridge/ [grev] Sibling: none known Notes: Thomas Watson (b. 29-Nov-1906, d. 30-Jun-1980) m. 21-Mar-1957 Gweneth Elizabeth Clark (b. 08-Mar-1921) [grev] Known in the family as 'Auntie Gwen', but in cards to me (Ian Ward) liked to be called 'Grandma', although she wasn't my biological grandmother, but the second wife of my grandfather Thomas Watson, after the death of his first wife. Lived in or near Rushden, Northamptonshire, near "nephew" Greville Watson (again not a biological nephew). /=============================================================================/ ID: <21> Status: L (Private) /==============================================================================/ ID: <22> Status: L (Private) /==============================================================================/ ID: <23> Status: L (Private) /==============================================================================/ ID: <24> Status: L (Private) /==============================================================================/ ID: <25> Status: D Name: \Ann Bostock\ Gender: F Gen: -5 Position: 001001 Born: c1825, Cheshire [1871C] [1881C] c1826 according to marriage cert of 1870 giving age as 44 [marr cert] Married: ??? Died: ??? Partner: <60> Child: ??? Father: \John Bostock\ Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: Marriage of Benjamin <60> and Ann <25> : Marriage ref :- Benjamin Hodgkins, Ann Bostock, Mar 1870, Ashton, 8d/623 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1870 Marriage solumnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of Ashton under Lyne in the County of Lancaster No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 329 Jan'y 16 1870 Benjamin Hodgkins 50 Widower Labourer Stalybridge Michael Hodgkins Labourer Ann Bostock 44 Spinster - Stalybridge John Bostock Labourer Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me (sig) E. Garrey This Marriage in the was solumnized (sig) Benjamin Hodgkins Presence (sig) William Turner between us (sig) Ann Bostock her x mark of us (sig) William Woodcock ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- See Benjamin Hodgkins <60> for more info on marriage. It also states Ann Bostock's father to be \John Bostock\, a Labourer in 1870. 1871 census: Civil Parish: Northowram Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 12 Albert Street Registration district: Halifax Sub-registration district: Northowram ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 218 Name MF Relation MStatus Age Occupation Birthplace Benjamin Hodgkins M Head Mar 53 Labourer Iron Works Needeswood Forest Ann Hodgkins F Wife Mar 46 Labourer Iron Works Wife Cheshire Benjamin must have remarried, as by 1871 Maria <61> is gone (died?) and he is married to Ann. 1881 census: Civil parish: Northowram County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 2 Walkers Ct Registration district: Halifax Sub registration district: Northowram ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Name MF Relation MStatus Age Occupation Birthplace Benjamin Hodgkins M Head Mar 61 General Labourer N________ (unreadable) Ann Hodgkins F Wife Mar 57 Cotton Winder Cheshire, Middlewick Could not find Ann in 1891 census - did she die? Possible IGI christening: -- Hannah Bostock Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 11 MAR 1829 Middlewich, Cheshire, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: John Bostock Mother: Mary Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C866222 1821 - 1860 1736869 Film NONE Sheet: Bishop's transcripts for Middlewich, 1588-1877 Church of England. Parish Church of Middlewich (Cheshire) -- Is this our Ann Bostock? /=============================================================================/ ID: <26> Status: L (Private) /==============================================================================/ ID: <27> Status: L (Private) /==============================================================================/ ID: <28> Status: L (Private) /==============================================================================/ ID: <29> Status: D Name: \Beatrice May Philips\ (Nanna's mother) Gender: F Gen: -3 Position: 0111 Born: 12/04/1886, Horsforth, Leeds Married: 05/08/1911 Died: 16/12/1912, Horsforth, Leeds (11 days after Nanna's birth) Partner: <30> Child: <8> Father: <46> Mother: <47> Sibling: \Florence Philips:c1887\ Aged 13 in 1901; born c1887, Horsforth, Yorkshire [1901C] \George Philips:c1890\ Aged 11 in 1901; born c1889, Horsforth, Yorkshire [1901C] Aged 20 in 1911; born c1891, Horsforth, Yorkshire; Living at Station Hotel, Guiseley, Yorkshire [1911C] Notes: GRO birth index: Quarter: Jun 1886 Name: Beatrice May Phillips Mothers maiden name: -- District: Wharfedale Vol/Page: 9a/129 Researched: 09/08/2003, Harris Library, Preston Certificate: Ordered 27/10/2003. From Greville: Birth Certificate Reference: Hors/16/447 Beatrice May Phillips <29> birth certificate: ---- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Wharfedale 1886 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Horsforth in the County of York No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registar 447 Twelth April Beatrice May Girl George Mary Grace Lithographer G.S.Phillips Fifteenth Seph 1886 Shillito Phillips Father May Morfen Black Bull Inn Phillips formerly Black Bull Inn 1886 Registrar Horsforth Stead Horsforth ---- Marriage search on 1837online.com (30/10/2003) : Sep 1911 KNA/1 KNAPTON, Harry, Wharfedale, 9a/258 PHI/1 PHILLIPS, Beatrice M., Wharfedale, 9a/258 GRO marriage index: Quarter: Sep 1911 Grooms Name: Harry Knapton <30> Brides Name: Beatrice M. Phillips <29> District: Wharfedale Vol/Page: 9a/258 Researched: 30/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 31/10/2003 ; Received 07/11/2003. Marriage of Harry Knapton <30> and Beatrice M. Phillips <29> : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1911 Marriage solumnized at the parish church in the parish of Guiseley in the County of York No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 291 August 5 1911 Harry Knapton 26 Bachelor Draughtsman Farsley John Marshall Knapton Grocer Beatrice May Phillips 25 Spinster Guiseley George Shillito Phillips Licensed Victualler Married in the parish church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the established church by -- or after bannes by me (sig) Wm. R. H. Baron This Marriage in the Assistant Curate was solumnized (sig) Harry Knapton Presence (sig) Benjamin Stead between us (sig) Beatrice May Phillips of us (sig) Lizzie Knapton ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Death search on 1837online.com (30/10/2003) : Dec 1912 KNA/1 KNAPTON, Beatrice M., 26, Wharfedale, 9a/148 {{unclear volume, could say 9c, or even 9d}} GRO death index: Quarter: Dec 1912 Name: Beatrice M. Knapton <29> Age/DOB: 26 District: Wharfedale Vol/Page: 9a (9c? 9d?) / 148 Researched: 30/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 31/10/2003 ; Received 07/11/2003. Beatrice May Knaptons <29> death certificate: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Wharfedale 1912 DEATH in the Sub-district of Horsforth in the County of Yorks W.R. No. When/where Name Sex Age Occupation Cause of death Informant When reg. Registrar 208 Sixteenth December 1912 Beatrice Female 26 Wife of Pasturition - Acute H Knapton Seventeenth Seth Morfett 10 Victoria Gardens May years Harry Cholecystitis 7 days Widower of deceased December 1912 Registrar Horsforth Knapton Knapton Acute congestion of lungs Present at the death Engineers Certified by 10 Victoria Gardens Draughtsman A.J.Macvie MB Horsforth ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From 1901 online census: Beatrice Philips was 14 on 31/03/1901 (so actually born 1886), born Yorkshire Horsforth Father was George Philips, married (in 1901), 39 on 31/03/1901, Licensed Victualler, employment status "nullworking at home", born Yorkshire Leeds Mother was Mary G Philips, married (in 1901), 38, born Yorkshire Leeds, no occupation recorded in 1901 census Sister: Florence Philips, 13, born Yorkshire Horsforth Brother: George Philips, 11, born Yorkshire Horsforth Servant: Eliza Taylor, 26, born Yorkshire Leeds They lived at the Kings Arms, Horsforth on 31/03/1901 Beatrice married 10 years later, and died a year later following child birth. 1911 Census - George Shilito Phillips, wife Mary Phillips (nee Mary Stead), children Beatrice May Phillips, George William Phillips, aunt Mary D_bson --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN26039 RG78PN1506 RD491 SD5 ED11 SN1 Schedule Number: 1 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Yorkshire West Riding District: Wharfedale Subdistrict: Yeadon Enumeration District: 11 Parish: Guiseley -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Shilito Phillips Head M 49 Married - - - - Licensed Victualler Own account At Home Yorks Holbeck c1862 <46> Mary Gertie Phillips Wife F 48 Married 25 3 3 - Assisting in the business Own account At Home Yorks Holbeck c1863 Mary Grace Stead <47> Beatrice May Phillips Daughter F 24 Single - - - - Assisting in the business Own account At Home Yorks Horsforth c1887 <29> George William Phillips Son M 20 Single - - - - Clerk Waste Manufacturer Worker Yorks Horsforth c1891 <<29>> Mary D?bson Aunt F 76 Widow - - - - Yorks Holbeck c1835 ???????? Annie Smith Servant F 20 Single - - - - General Servant (Domestic) Yorks Morley c1881 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 7 Signature (sig) G.S.Phillips Postal Address Station Hotel, Guiseley, Yorks --------------------------------------------------------- From Greville (07/08/2003): Interesting information on Beatrice May Phillips - Born at the Black Bull Inn, Horsforth Father, George Shillito Phillips, residing at the Inn but occupation is Lithographer Mother, Mary Grace Phillips, formerly Stead. /=============================================================================/ ID: <30> Status: D Name: \Harry Knapton\ (Nanna's father) Gender: M Gen: -3 Position: 0110 Born: 16/10/1884 [bible, birth cert], Farsley, Yorkshire [1891C, birth cert], 9am [bible] Married: Beatrice May Phillips <29>: 05/08/1911, Guiseley [marriage cert] Beatrice Maud Hawley <98>: 16/06/1917, Wolverhampton [marriage cert] Died: 26/09/1953, 229 Lichfield Road, Aston [death cert] [Greville and family bible both say 24/09/1953] Died 24 Sep 1953 Aston, BIRMINGHAM? [HK] Partner: <29> Partner: <98> Child: <8> (by <29>) Child: <99> (by <98>) Father: <39> Mother: <40> Sibling: Gladstone Francis Knapton <78>; born 20/06/1867, Stanningley, Leeds, Yorkshire \Maria Knapton:1876:c1946\ 1876 - 1946(1945?) Born 08/07/1876 [bible], Farsley, Yorkshire [1891C], 6am [bible] Died 25/03/1946 [bible] Died 25 Mar 1946 Farsley W/DALE, buried @ Farsley Baptist [HK] Aged 4 in 1881, born Farsley, York, England [HK, 1881C] Aged 14 in 1891, Knotter(?) in Woollen Mill, born Yorkshire Farsley [HK, 1891C] Aged 24 in 1901, Woollen Mender, born Yorks Farsley [HK, 1901C] Aged 34 in 1911; born c1877, Farsley county, Yorkshire; Wollen Mender; Single; Living at Beck Bottom, Farsley, Yorkshire [1911C] \Lizzie Knapton:1878:1964\ 1878 - 1964 Born 15/11/1878 [bible], Farsley, Yorkshire [1891C], 8am [bible] Died 03/06/1964 [bible] Died 3 Jun 1964 WORTH VALLEY? [HK] {{ m'd Eli BROOK 1920 @ Farsley St John the Evangelist [HK] }} {{ Did not get married [Greville] }} Lizzie and Florence lived together at 'Ellesmere', 12 Old Road, Farsley, where they brought up Beatrice <8> [grev]. Raised neice Beatrice <8> when Beatrices' mother <29> died in/soon after childbirth [grev] Aged 2 in 1881, born Farsley, York, England [HK, 1881C] Aged 12 in 1891, Scholar, born Yorkshire Farsley [HK, 1891C] Aged 22 in 1901, Woollen Mender, born Yorks Farsley [HK, 1901C] Aged 32 in 1911; born c1879, Farsley county, Yorkshire; Single; Living at Beck Bottom, Farsley, Yorkshire [1911C] \Ethel Knapton:1881\ Born 13/11/1881 [bible], Farsley, Yorkshire [1891C], 6am [bible] Married \James Overend Pearson:c1881\, 01/06/1912 (ref: 2Q 1912, N.Bierley, 9b/44) [grev] Married at Farsley St John the Evangelist [HK] Aged 9 in 1891, Scholar, born Yorkshire Farsley [HK, 1891C] Aged 19 in 1901, Woollen Mender, born Yorks Farsley [HK, 1901C] Aged 29 in 1911; born c1882, Farsley county, Yorkshire; Wollen Mender; Single; Living at Beck Bottom, Farsley, Yorkshire [1911C] http://www.calverley.info/stjohn_mar.htm : PEARSON James O, KNAPTON Ethel, CE128/263, 1912 Hugh Knapton: Confirmed birth date and place in certificate Children [grev]: \Emma Overend Pearson:c1913\ - birth registered 2Q 1913, N.Bierley, 9b 123. Married \G E Manning:c1913\ - m. 4Q 1939, Brentford, 3a 1435. Nanna Watson [Beatrice <8>] used to visit Emma when she lived in Hounslow. She used to talk about her house on 'The Great West Road' which, I think would be the A4. Child 1. \John Overend Manning:c1944\ (Registration shows middle initial as 'S' - not 'O'??) b. 3Q 1944, Brentford, 3a 376. (Brentford district is in Middlesex) Child 2. \Gordon Overend Manning:c1949\ (Reg. shows middle initial as 'E' or it might be 'B' - not 'O'??) b. 2Q 1949, Ealing, 5e 245. (Ealing district is in Middlesex) \John Overend Pearson:c1916\ - birth registered 3Q 1916, N.Bierley, 9b 115. Married \Mabel Boocock:c1916\ - m. 3Q 1941, Wharfdale, 9a 461. Child 1. \Enid Overend Pearson:c1942\ b. 2Q 1942, Wharfdale, 9a 448. Child 2. \Stephen O. (probably Overend?) Pearson:c1947\ b. 2Q 1947, Wharfdale, 2d 1129. \James Overend Pearson:c1918\ - birth registered 3Q 1918, N.Bierley, 9b 96. Married \Irene Hodgson(apparently):c1918\ - m. 3Q 1941, Leeds, 9b 545. Child 1. \David O. (probably Overend?) Pearson:c1942\ b. 3Q 1942, Wharfdale, 9a 276. \Ben Overend Pearson:c1921\ - birth registered 1Q 1921, N.Bierley, 9b 113. [Greville thinks all these Overends may all be linked to the presence of the name Overend as a maiden name is years before. Any connection to Jonathon Overend and Sarah Overend in http://www.calverley.info/fars_bap_2.htm ??] \Florence Knapton:c1886:1953\ 1886(1887?) - 1953 Born 12/02/1886 [bible], Farsley, Yorkshire [1891C], 1pm [bible]; died 31/05/1953 [bible] Died 31 May 1953 WHARFDALE? [HK] Florence never married. [grev] Lizzie and Florence lived together at 'Ellesmere', 12 Old Road, Farsley, where they brought up Beatrice <8> [grev]. Aged 5 in 1891, 5, Scholar, born Yorkshire Farsley [HK, 1891C] Aged 15 in 1901, born Yorks Farsley [HK, 1901C] Aged 25 in 1911; born c1886, Farsley county, Yorkshire; Single; Living at Beck Bottom, Farsley, Yorkshire [1911C] \Ross Knapton:1888\ Born 04/10/1888 [bible], Farsley, Yorkshire [1891C], 9:25pm [bible] Married ____ HOLDSWORTH 4q 1915 NORTH BIERLEY? [HK] Died 2q 1967 BRADFORD? [HK] Aged 2 in 1891, born Yorkshire Farsley [HK, 1891C] Aged 12 in 1901, born Yorks Farsley [HK, 1901C] Aged 22 in 1911; born c1889, Farsley county, Yorkshire; Leather Dealer; Single; Living at Beck Bottom, Farsley, Yorkshire [1911C] Notes: Mechanical engineers apprentice in 1901, according to the 1901 census. GRO birth index: Quarter: Dec 1884 Name: Harry Knapton Mothers maiden name: -- District: Bradford, Y. Vol/Page: 9b/236 Researched: 09/08/2003, Harris Library, Preston Certificate: Ordered 27/10/2003. Received 06/11/2003. Harry Knaptons <30> birth certificate: ---- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Bradford Yorkshire 1884 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Calverley in the County of York No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registar 450 Sixteenth Harry Boy John Emma Grocer Emma Knapton Seventeenth George October 1884 Marshall Knapton Mother November Nicholoon Beck Bottom Knapton formerly Beck Bottom 1884 Registrar Farsley Ross Farsley Calverley ---- Marriage search on 1837online.com (30/10/2003) : Sep 1911 KNA/1 KNAPTON, Harry, Wharfedale, 9a/258 PHI/1 PHILLIPS, Beatrice M., Wharfedale, 9a/258 GRO marriage index: Quarter: Sep 1911 Grooms Name: Harry Knapton <30> Brides Name: Beatrice M. Phillips <29> District: Wharfedale Vol/Page: 9a/258 Researched: 30/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 31/10/2003 ; Received 07/11/2003. Marriage of Harry Knapton <30> and Brides Name: Beatrice M. Phillips <29> : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1911 Marriage solumnized at the parish church in the parish of Guiseley in the County of York No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 291 August 5 1911 Harry Knapton 26 Bachelor Draughtsman Farsley John Marshall Knapton Grocer Beatrice May Phillips 25 Spinster Guiseley George Shillito Phillips Licensed Victualler Married in the parish church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the established church by -- or after bannes by me (sig) Wm. R. H. Baron This Marriage in the Assistant Curate was solumnized (sig) Harry Knapton Presence (sig) Benjamin Stead between us (sig) Beatrice May Phillips of us (sig) Lizzie Knapton ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GRO marriage index: Quarter: Jun 1917 Grooms Name: Harry Knapton <30> Brides Name: Beatrice M. Hawley <98> District: Wolverhampton Vol/Page: 6b/981 Researched: 23/01/2004, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 23/01/2004 ; Received 31/01/2004 Marriage of Harry Knapton <30> and Beatrice M. Hawley <98> : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1917 Marriage solumnized at the parish church in the parish of St Mark in the County of Wolverhampton No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 209 June 16 1917 Harry Knapton 32 Widower Draughtsman 172 Waterloo Rd John Marshall Knapton (dec'd) Grocer Beatrice Maude Hawley 21 Spinster 133 St Marks Rd Samuel Hawley Cycle Finisher Married in the parish church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the established church by -- or after banns by me (sig) R. G. Hurst This Marriage in the Vicar was solumnized (sig) Harry Knapton Presence (sig) Samuel Hawley between us (sig) Beatrice Maude Hawley of us (sig) Florence Kate Crowther ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1837online.com deaths search for Harry Knapton (30/10/2003) : Dec 1953 KNA/1 KNAPTON, Harry, 68, Birmingham, 9c/81 GRO death index: Quarter: Dec 1953 Name: Harry Knapton <30> Age/DOB: 68 District: Birmingham Vol/Page: 9c/81 Researched: 30/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 31/10/2003 ; Received 07/11/2003. Death of Harry Knapton <30> : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Birmingham 1953 DEATH in the Sub-district of Aston in the County Borough of Birmingham No. When/where Name Sex Age Occupation Cause of death Informant When reg. Registrar 236 Twenty Sixth September 1953 Harry Male 68 A machinery Pulmonary Embolism Certificate received First October 1953 L.F.Mann at 229 Lichfield Road, Aston KNAPTON years merchant following recent fractures from G.Billington Registar of the left 4th-9th Ribs. Coroner for Birmingham Fell from broken wooden Inquest held staircase. PM. 30th September 1953 Accidental Death. {{ Interesting cause of death in this one, falling from a staircase. Coroners inquest and everything! }} ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Greville: Birth Certificate Reference: Calv/20/450 It appears from Grevilles entry in GenesConnected, that Harry also married a Beatrice Maud Hanley, born 1885 in Birmingham(?). Greville: I saw my grandfather Harry on only a few occasions. I remember him visiting his sisters on one occasion, but he lived in Aston, Birmingham, with his second wife Beatrice Maud Hanley, where he had an engineering business, and we visited I suppose a couple of times from Rushden and slept on a mattress on the floor in the bedrooms over the shop. (Funny how Harry seemed to like the name 'Beatrice M' !!). From Greville (07/08/2003): Neither is there anything new on Harry Knapton - Born at Beck Bottom, Farsley From Greville (07/08/2003): The Certificate for John Marshall Knapton shows That he was born at Angel Yard, Mercy Street (that will be West Leeds) And his father was John Knapton (a Spinner) and his mother Hannah Knapton, formerly Wilson. This confirms the information I had found about John and Hannah Knapton in the 1881 Census When Grandson Francis (Gladstone) aged 13 was at their house in Bramley. That also confirms that John Marshall had (at least) two brothers. From Greville (07/08/2003): With regards to Gladstone - his is the Certificate that the Registrar did not send. Reason being that the name of his mother did not correspond to the one (Emma) that was on my application. This lends to confirm that he was born before John & Emma married. I am concluding that John was his father - but was John married before? I rather think he may have been - more detective work. I'll keep you posted. Grevile (18/09/2003): I've finally managed to get some info on the above-named [Francis Gladstone KNAPTON]. You will recall that he appeared in the 1881 Census in Stanningley aged 13 and then in the 1901 Census in Farsley aged 33 but that I had failed to get a birth certificate from Leeds. I applied for one from the GRO and it arrived yesterday. It shows his DOB as 20th June 1867. Parents: John Marshall Knapton & Frances Knapton, formerly Bennett (deceased). The birth was registered on 22nd July 1867, so Frances presumably died fairly soon after giving birth to young Francis G. In due course I hope to get their Marriage certificate and Frances's Death cert. 1881 census: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability John M. KNAPTON Head M Male 35 Leeds, York, England Grocer Emma KNAPTON Wife M Female 32 Farsley, York, England Grocer Wife Maria KNAPTON Daur Female 4 Farsley, York, England Lizzie KNAPTON Daur Female 2 Farsley, York, England Source Information: Dwelling Beckbottom Census Place Calverley Cum Farsley, York, England Family History Library Film 1342073 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4480 / 71 Page Number 28 1881 census: Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability John KNAPTON Head M Male 67 Leeds, York, England Tobacconist Hannah KNAPTON Wife M Female 60 Hunslet, York, England Tom KNAPTON Son U Male 24 Bramley, York, England Boiler Smith James KNAPTON Son U Male 20 Bramley, York, England Labourer Iron Foundry Francis G. KNAPTON G Son Male 13 Stanningley, York, England (()) Source Information: Dwelling New Row Census Place Bramley In Bramley, York, England Family History Library Film 1342078 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4500 / 91 Page Number 34 1891 census: Knapton, John M Relationship: Head County: Yorkshire Age: 45 Civil Parish: Calverley with Farsley Gender: Male ED: 4 Where Born: Yorkshire, Leeds Eccl. Parish: Farsley St Johns Piece: RG12/3654 Town: Calverley Folio: 67 Page: 23 Location: Grocers shop, Cavendish St(?), Beckbottom Civil parish: Calverley Rural district: Farsley Parliamentary borough: Pudsey Ecclesiastical parish: St Johns, Farsley John M Knapton, Head, 45, Grocer(?), born Yorkshire Leeds Emma Knapton, Wife, 42, Assisting husband, born Yorkshire Farsley Maria Knapton, Daur, 14, Knotter(?) in Woollen Mill, born Yorkshire Farsley Lizzie Knapton, Daur, 12, Scholar, born Yorkshire Farsley Ethel Knapton, Daur, 9, Scholar, born Yorkshire Farsley Harry Knapton, Son, 6, Scholar, born Yorkshire Farsley Florence Knapton, Daur, 5, Scholar, born Yorkshire Farsley Ross Knapton, Son, 2, -, born Yorkshire Farsley 1901 census: PRO Reference RG Number, Series RG13 Piece 4186 Folio 73 Page 26 Schedule Number 187 Location: Address 7 Cavendish Sq Beckbottom Civil Parish Farsley Rural District -- Town or Village or Hamlet -- Parliamentary Borough or Division Pudsey Ecclesiastical Parish St Johns Administrative County Yorkshire W R County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District -- Ward of Municipal Borough or Urban District -- John M Knapton, 54, Grocer And Beerseller Shopkeeper (Own Account working at home), born Yorks Leeds Emma Knapton, 52, occupation "Pub", born Yorks Farsley Gladstone Knapton, 33, Iron Fettler In Foundry, born Yorks Stanningley Maria Knapton, 24, Woollen Mender, born Yorks Farsley Lizzie Knapton, 22, Woollen Mender, born Yorks Farsley Ethel Knapton, 19, Woollen Mender, born Yorks Farsley Harry Knapton, 16, Mechanical Engineers Apprentice, born Yorks Farsley Ross Knapton, 12, born Yorks Farsley Florence Knapton, 15, born Yorks Farsley 1911 Census - John Marshall Knapton and children Maria, Lizzie, Ethel, Harry, Florence, Ross --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN26663 RG78PN1537 RD497 SD8 ED7 SN251 Schedule Number: 251 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Yorkshire West Riding District: North Bierley Subdistrict: Calverley Enumeration District: 7 Parish: Farsley -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Marshall Knapton Head M 65 Widower 6 6 0 Licensed Grocer own be Home Leeds Yorkshire c1846 <39> Maria Knapton Daughter F 34 Single Wollen Mender Manufacturing Employee Farsley county York c1877 <<30>> Lizzie Knapton Daughter F 32 Single at home Farsley county York c1879 <<30>> Ethel Knapton Daughter F 29 Single Wollen Mender Manufacturing Employee Farsley county York c1882 <<30>> Harry Knapton Son M 26 Single Draughtman Engineering Employee Farsley county York c1885 <30> Florence Knapton Daughter F 25 Single Home Farsley county York c1886 <<30>> Ross Knapton Son M 22 Single Leather Dealer own be Farsley county York c1889 <<30>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 5 Signature (sig) John Marshall Knapton Postal Address Beck Bottom, Farsley --------------------------------------------------------- - On 14/01/2004, on Hugh Knaptons advice, I ordered the birth certificate of a Dennis Marshall Knapton, born 1921. Registration district North Bierley 1921 birth in the sub-disrtrict of Pudsey in the county of Yorks (W.R.) Name: Dennis Marshall Born: First July 1921 (the word Eleventh was written, but crossed out, and there is also the number 10 seems to have been written between the word First and the crossed out Eleventh, whatever that may mean) 39 New Street, Pudsey Sex: Boy Father: Harry Knapton, Draughtsman (Electrical Engineer) Mother: Beatrice Maud Knapton formerly Hawley Informant: Harry Knapton, Father, 36 New Street, Pudsey (note the different house number to where Dennis was born, they definitely say 39 and 36 respectively) Registered: Eleventh July 1921 Registrar: H.Halliday, deputy registrar (*all* other certs I've seen have said 'Registrar' rather than 'Deputy', so this is interesting in itself to me :o) I immediately noticed Harry and Beatrice Knapton here and wondered if he was related to the Harry Knapton in my tree. At first I discounted it, but then realised two things: (i) the name Marshall would be something of a coincidence, and (ii) that Beatrice May Phillips, my great-grandmother and wife of my Harry Knapton, died in 1912. That means that Harry could easily have re-married to Beatrice Maud Hawley by 1921. I also know from Harry's marriage to my great-grandmother that he was a draughtsman. He didn't die until 1953. I also know he had a prediliction for 'Beatrice M's - he married Beatrice May Phillips in 1911, and named my grandmother Beatrice Margaret. It wouldn't surprise me if he later re-married a Beatrice Maud... There seem to be too many coincidences here to write off - Dennis could be my grandmothers half-brother! Marriages search for Harry Knapton <30> and Beatrice Maud Hawley <98> (23/01/2004) : Mar 1917 KNA/1 (no Harry) Jun 1917 KNA/1 KNAPTON, Harry, HAWLEY, Wolverhampton, 6b/981 HAW/3 HAWLEY, Beatrice M, KNAPTON, Wolverhampton, 6b/981 Sep 1917 ???????????????????????????????????? Dec 1917 KNA/1 (no Harry) Mar 1918 KNA/1 (no Harry) Jun 1918 KNA/1 (no Harry) Sep 1918 KNA/1 (no Harry) Dec 1918 KNA/1 (no Harry) Mar 1919 KNA/1 (no Harry) Jun 1919 KNA/1 (no Harry) Sep 1919 KNA/1 (no Harry) Dec 1919 KNA/1 (no Harry) Mar 1920 KNA/1 KNAPTON, Harry, REDFEARN, Huddersfield, 9a/664 Jun 1920 KNA/1 (no Harry) Sep 1920 KNA/1 KNAPTON, Harry E., TOPE, Devonport, 5b/854 Dec 1920 KNA/2 (no Harry) Mar 1921 KNA/2 (no Harry) Jun 1921 KNA/1 (no Harry) Sep 1921 KNA/1 (no Harry) Dec 1921 KNA/1 (no Harry) Mar 1922 KNA/1 (no Harry) Greville (26/01/2004): I note you have Ethel KNAPTON married to James PEARSON. I've got a bit more on them: His full name is James Overend PEARSON Children: 1. Emma Overend PEARSON Married: George Emmanuel MANNING Children: 1. John Overend MANNING 2. Gordon Overend MANNING 2. John Overend PEARSON Married: Mabel BOOCOCK Children: 1. Enid Overend PEARSON 2. Stephen PEARSON 3. James Overend PEARSON Married: Irene Children: 1. David 4. Ben Overend PEARSON Sorry absolutely no dates. Seem determined to continue the name 'Overend'. Believe it was a distant maiden name way back -- strongly suspect that 'Marshall' in the KNAPTONs may be a similar origin. Nanna Watson [Beatrice <8>] used to visit Emma when she lived in Hounslow. She used to talk about her house on 'The Great West Road' which, I think would be the A4. - Greville on Ethel Knapton (09/02/2004) : Further to my recent email in which I put some GRO Reference details to Sylvia, Dennis and Phyllis and their families, I have been searching around on 1837online for Ethel KNAPTON and James PEARSON's family, and am pleased to pass on the following Registration Details: Ethel KNAPTON / James Overend PEARSON - m. 2Q 1912, District: N.Bierley, Vol. 9b Page 44. Emma Overend PEARSON - birth registered 2Q 1913, N.Bierley, 9b 123. Married G.E.MANNING - m. 4Q 1939, Brentford, 3a 1435. Child 1. John Overend MANNING - (Registration shows middle initial as 'S' - not 'O'??) b. 3Q 1944, Brentford, 3a 376. Child 2. Gordon Overend MANNING - (Reg. shows middle initial as 'E' or it might be 'B' - not 'O'??) b. 2Q 1949, Ealing, 5e 245. John Overend PEARSON - birth registered 3Q 1916, N.Bierley, 9b 115. Married Mabel BOOCOCK - m. 3Q 1941, Wharfdale, 9a 461. Child 1. Enid Overend PEARSON - b. 2Q 1942, Wharfdale, 9a 448. Child 2. Stephen O. (probably Overend?) PEARSON - b. 2Q 1947, Wharfdale, 2d 1129. James Overend PEARSON - birth registered 3Q 1918, N.Bierley, 9b 96. Married Irene (HODGSON apparently) - m. 3Q 1941, Leeds, 9b 545. Child 1. David O. (probably Overend?) PEARSON - b. 3Q 1942, Wharfdale, 9a 276. Ben Overend PEARSON - birth registered 1Q 1921, N.Bierley, 9b 113. Notes: I'm sure I've identified all the correct people in the Index. Strange that the middle initials of John and Gordon MANNING are not recorded as 'O' for Overend. It was something I particularly remember my mother telling me about. The Birth Certificates would confirm. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.calverley.info/fars_bap.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Page Surname Name Died Age Born Relationship Relation Comments 28 Knapton Emma 1903 01 23 54 Wife of John 2nd Wife 28 Knapton Frances 1867 07 11 21 Wife of John 28 Knapton John Marshall 1914 12 28 69 Husband of Frances & Emma 28 Knapton Maria 1946 03 25 Daughter of John Eldset Daughter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.calverley.info/fars_bap_2.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Page Surname Name Died Age Born Relationship Relation Comments 126 Overend Jonathan ? ? Husband of Sarah 126 Overend Sarah 1812 04 29 31 Wife of Jonathan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Greville(26/04/2004) : Florence never married either [as with Lizzie]. Lizzie and Florence lived together at 'Ellesmere', 12 Old Road, Farsley, and that's where they brought up my mother (Beatrice Margaret). - /=============================================================================/ ID: <31> Status: D Name: \Alfred Thomas Watson\ Gender: M Gen: -3 Position: 0100 Born: 19/09/1881, Gibraltar Married: ??? Died: 26/06/1938, Henley-in-Arden Partner: <32> Child: <9> Father: <33> Mother: <34> Sibling: \James Watson:1875:1876\ (1875 - 1876) Born 20/06/1875, Copiapo, Chile [grev] Died 12/02/1876, Copiapo, Chile [grev] \Ann Cooper Watson:1876:1949\ (1876 - 1949) In 1891: Aged 14, so born c1877, British Subj, S America; Scholar; living at 19 Langside Road, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1891C] Born 26/10/1876, Copiapo, Chile [grev] Died 06/04/1949, Rushden, Northants [grev] Married \Thomas Edwards Thompson:1871\ [grev] Thomas born 1871 [grev] Married 01/07/1903, Higham Ferrers, Northamptonshire [grev] Died 1934 [grev] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \Christian Miller Watson:1879:1945\ (F) (1879 - 1945) In 1891: Aged 11, so born c1880, British Subj, S America; Scholar; living at 19 Langside Road, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1891C] [Recorded as female - Christina M Watson!] Born 09/08/1879, Copiapo, Chile [grev] Died 02/02/1945, Rushden, Northants [grev] Also known as Cissy [grev] Aged 31 in 1911; Born c1880, Copiapo, Chile, South America; Teacher; Single; Living at Gas Works Villa, Rushden, Northants [1911C] \Grace Watson:1882:1960\ (1882 - 1960) In 1891: Aged 9, so born c1882, Gibraltar; Scholar; living at 19 Langside Road, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1891C] Born 11/12/1882, Gibraltar [grev] Died 19/02/1960, Northamptonshire [grev] Also called Gracie [grev] \Helen Watson:1884:1965\ (1884 - 1965) In 1891: Aged 6, so born c1885, Gibraltar; Scholar; living at 19 Langside Road, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1891C] Born 29/04/1884, Gibraltar [grev] Died 07/12/1965, Northamptonshire [grev] Also called Nellie [grev] \Thomas Watson:1885:1886\ (1885 - 1886) Born 20/10/1885, Gibraltar [grev] Died 12/08/1886, Gibraltar [grev] \Isabella Elizabeth Watson:1888:1889\ (1888 - 1889) Born 27/12/1888, Gibraltar [grev] Died 19/07/1889, Gibraltar [grev] Notes: Occupation - Gas Engineer Marriage: England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Alice Prout Michell Name: Alice Prout Michell Year of Registration: 1905 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Wellingborough County: Bedfordshire, Northamptonshire Volume: 3b Page: 363 (click to see others on page) Source Information: FreeBMD. England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006. Original data: General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration Indexes. London, England: General Register Office. © Crown copyright. Published by permission of the Controller of HMSO and the Office for National Statistics. You must not copy on, transfer or reproduce records without the prior permission of ONS. Database Copyright © 1998-2003 Graham Hart, Ben Laurie, Camilla von Massenbach and David Mayall. Marriages Dec 1905 (>99%) MICHELL Alice Prout Wellingbro' 3b 363 Scan available - click to view WATSON Alfred Thomas Wellingbro' 3b 363 Scan available - click to view GRO death index: Quarter: Jun 1938 Name: Alfred T. Watson Age/DOB: 56 District: Stratford Vol/Page: 6d/971 Researched: 30/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 31/10/2003 ; Received 07/11/2003. Search for Alfred Watsons death on 1837online.com (20/10/2003) : Jun 1938 WAT/2/2 WATSON, Alfred T. 56 Stratford 6d/971 Death of Alfred Watson <31> : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Stratford-on-Avon 1938 DEATH in the Sub-district of Stratford-on-Avon in the County of Warwick No. When/where Name Sex Age Occupation Cause of death Informant When reg. Registrar 92 Twenty sixth June 1938 Alfred Male 57 of Shirley Road 1a. Angina Pectarus Alan E. Soathorlon Twenty ninth Albert Edward Asnos "Kynance", Birmingham Road Thomas years Rushden b. Myocardial Degeneration Present at the death June 1938 Registrar Henley in Arden RD Watson Northamtonshire Certified by Birmingham Road Resident Gas Manager William Smith LRCP Henley in Arden ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Alfred Thomas Watson Probate Date: 5 Aug 1938 Death Date: 26 Jun 1938 Death Place: Northamptonshire, England Registry: London Source Information: Ancestry.com. England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010. Original data: Principal Probate Registry. Calendar of the Grants of Probate and Letters of Administration made in the Probate Registries of the High Court of Justice in England. London, England © Crown copyright. 1891 Scotland Census Registration Number: 644/12 Registration district: Gorbals Civil parish: Glasgow Govan County: Lanarkshire Address: 19 Langside Road ED: 96 Household schedule number: 126 Roll: CSSCT1891_293 Source Citation: Parish: Glasgow Govan; ED: 96; Page: 23; Line: 1; Roll CSSCT1891_293; Year: 1891. Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1891 Scotland Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007. Original data: Scotland. 1891 Scotland Census. Reels 1-409. General Register Office for Scotland, Edinburgh, Scotland. Name Age Est B year Relationship Gender Where born Occupation Grace R Watson 36 abt 1855 Head Female Glasgow, Lanarkshire Gas Engineer's Wife Ann C Watson 14 abt 1877 Daur Female British Subj, S America Scholar Christina M Watson 11 abt 1880 Daur Female British Subj, S America Scholar Alfred I Watson 9 abt 1882 Son Male Gibraltar Scholar Grace R Watson 8 abt 1883 Daur Female Gibraltar Scholar Helen Watson 6 abt 1885 Daur Female Gibraltar Scholar 1911 Census - Alfred Watson, Alice Watson, son Thomas Watson --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN8529 RG78PN441 RD166 SD1 ED21 SN212 Schedule Number: 212 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Northamptonshire District: Wellingborough Subdistrict: Wellingborough Enumeration District: 21 Parish: Wellingborough -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alfred Watson Head M 29 Married Assistant Gas Works Manager Worker Gibraltar Spain (resident) c1882 <31> Alice Watson Wife F 30 Married 5 1 1 0 Penzance Cornwall c1883 Alice Prout Michell <32> Thomas Watson Son M 4 Wellingborough Northants c1907 <9> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 6 Signature (sig) Alfd Watson Postal Address Trewithen/Spewithen(?), Castle St, Wellingborough --------------------------------------------------------- 1911 Census - Thomas Watson, wife Grace Watson (Grace Jago), daughter Christian --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN8554 RG78PN442 RD166 SD2 ED21 SN284 Schedule Number: 284 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Northamptonshire District: Wellingborough Subdistrict: Higham Ferrers Enumeration District: 21 Parish: Rushden -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Watson Head M 59 Married 36 8 5 3 Gas Engineer & Manager Gas Manufacture Employer Edinburgh, Midlothian, NB c1852 <33> Grace Rundle Watson Wife F 56 Married 36 8 5 3 - - - - Glasgow, Lanark, NB c1855 Grace Rundle Jago <34> Christan Miller Watson Daughter F 31 Single - - - - Teacher Northants Education Committee Copiaps, Chili, Sth America c1880 <<31>> Janet Cooper Visitor F 60 Married 35 5 4 1 - - Glasgow, Lanark, NB c1851 ???????? Martha Lydia Thompson Servant F 22 Single - - - - General Servant Domestic - - - Broughton, Northants c1889 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 9 Signature (sig) Thomas Watson Postal Address Gas Works Villa, Rushden, Northants --------------------------------------------------------- The 1901 census has the following information on Grace Watson. PRO Reference RG Number, Series RG13 Piece 3696 Folio 140 Page 41 Schedule Number 228 Location: Address 84 Freme St Civil Parish Sth Man Rural District -- Town or Village or Hamlet -- Parliamentary Borough or Division St Manchester Ecclesiastical Parish St Stephen Administrative County Manchester County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District -- Ward of Municipal Borough or Urban District -- Sarah Sim, widowed, 60, born Lancashire Fanny Sim, 25, Drapers Assistant, born Lancashire Harriet Sim, 22, Saleswoman, born Salford Lanc Rose Annie Bentley, Boarder, 26, Drapers Assistant, Margate Kent Grace ... Watson, Boarder, 18, Drapers Assistant, Gerbralta Spain B Subject Etheline May McCredie, 11M, born Liverpool Lanc No information is in the 1901 census for Alfred Watson (that I could find), though his parents and siblings are present (see Thomas Watson <33>). /=============================================================================/ ID: <32> Status: D Name: \Alice Prout Michell\ Gender: F Gen: -3 Position: 0101 Born: 17/02/1881, Hayle, Cornwall [birth cert] Married: ??? Died: 07/12/1937, Rushden, Northants [death cert] Partner: <31> Child: <9> Father: <86> Mother: <87> Sibling: \Stephen Henry Michell:1879:1916\ Aged 1 in 1881, born Penzance, Cornwall, England; living in Phillack, Cornwall, England [1881C] Aged 11 in 1891, born Penzance; Attending school (Scholar); living at Commercial Rd, Phillack, Cornwall [1891C] Born 26/10/1879 [grev] Died 25/05/1916 [grev] Married \Lizzie Rosina Thomas:1889\ [grev] Lizze born 1889 [grev] _LK-1973_ _PUBLIC_ \William Love Michell:1882:1958\ 09/02/1882 (Cornwall?) - 24/11/1958 (South Africa) [Greville] Aged 9 in 1891, born Hayle, Cornwall; Attending school (Scholar); living at Commercial Rd, Phillack, Cornwall [1891C] Married \Alice Mary Amelia Spence:c1882\ [grev] _LK-1992_ _PUBLIC_ \Thomas Theophilus Michell:1883:1957\ 15/01/1883 (Cornwall?) - 11/05/1957 (Canada) [Greville] Aged 8 in 1891, born Hayle, Cornwall; Attending school (Scholar); living at Commercial Rd, Phillack, Cornwall [1891C] Married \Annie ____:c1883\ [grev] Children: \Arthur Michell:D\, died c1980 [grev] \Dorothy Michell\ [grev] \Sidney John Michell:1884:c1950\ 29/06/1884 (Cornwall?) - c1950 (Toronto?, Canada) [Greville] Aged 6 in 1891, born Hayle, Cornwall; Attending school (Scholar); living at Commercial Rd, Phillack, Cornwall [1891C] Married \Kate ____:c1884\ [grev] _LK-1970_ _PUBLIC_ \Violet Elizabeth Michell:1887:c1960\ 21/03/1887 (Cornwall?) - c1960 [Greville] Aged 4 in 1891, born Hayle, Cornwall; living at Commercial Rd, Phillack, Cornwall [1891C] Married \Jack Reynolds:c1888\ on 27/02/1924 [grev] Jack born c1888 [grev] \Arthur Davey Michell:1893:c1960\ 21/07/1893 (Cornwall?) - c1960 [Greville] Aged 17 in 1911; Born c1894, Hayle, Cornwall; at school; Living at 4 South Terrace, Penzance, Cornwall [1911C] Married \Elizabeth Hodge:c1893\ on 01/06/1948 [grev] Source Information: Dwelling Commercial Road Census Place Phillack, Cornwall, England Family History Library Film 1341562 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2337 / 33 Page Number 28 Notes: Present in the 1881 census, aged 1 month old, born Penzance, Cornwall, England [1881C] Living in Phillack, Cornwall, England in 1881 [1881C] Aged 10 in 1891, born Penzance, Cornwall; Attending school (Scholar) [1891C] Living at Commercial Rd, Phillack, Cornwall in 1891 [1891C] GRO birth index: Quarter: Mar 1881 Name: Alice Prout Michell Mothers maiden name: -- District: Penzance Vol/Page: 5c/269 Researched: 09/08/2003, Harris Library, Preston. Confirmed 30/10/2003, 1837online.com. Certificate: Ordered 27/10/2003. Received 06/11/2003. Alice Prout Michells <32> birth certificate: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Penzance 1881 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Penzance in the County of Cornwall No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registar 146 Twentieth February Alice Prout Girl Stephen Annie Sophie Corn(?) (miller?) Annie Sophie Michell Twelth John James 1881 Michell Michell Clerk Mother March Registrar 18 Cornwall Terrace, formerly Commercial Road 1881 Penzance Love Hayle ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriage: England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Alice Prout Michell Name: Alice Prout Michell Year of Registration: 1905 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Wellingborough County: Bedfordshire, Northamptonshire Volume: 3b Page: 363 (click to see others on page) Source Information: FreeBMD. England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006. Original data: General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration Indexes. London, England: General Register Office. © Crown copyright. Published by permission of the Controller of HMSO and the Office for National Statistics. You must not copy on, transfer or reproduce records without the prior permission of ONS. Database Copyright © 1998-2003 Graham Hart, Ben Laurie, Camilla von Massenbach and David Mayall. Marriages Dec 1905 (>99%) MICHELL Alice Prout Wellingbro' 3b 363 Scan available - click to view WATSON Alfred Thomas Wellingbro' 3b 363 Scan available - click to view Search for death of Alice Michell on 1837online.com (30/10/2003) : Dec 1937 WAT/2/2 Watson, Alice P., 56, Wellingbro', 3b/157 GRO death index: Quarter: Dec 1937 Name: Alice P. Watson Age/DOB: 56 District: Wellingbro' Vol/Page: 3b/157 Researched: 30/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 31/10/2003 ; Received 07/11/2003. Death of Alice Prout Watson <32> : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Wellingborough 1937 DEATH in the Sub-district of Rushden in the County of Northampton No. When/where Name Sex Age Occupation Cause of death Informant When reg. Registrar 466 Seventh December 1937 Alice Prout Female 56 Wife of Alfred 1a) Respiratory paralysis Alfred T. Watson Seventh Arthur Thurglas Shirley Road Rushden UD Watson years Thomas Watson b) Beribral Embolism Widower of deceased December Registar a Gas Engineer 2) Asthma Present at the death 1937 Certified by Shirley Road D.S.Greenfield MD Rushden {{ So Alice suffered from asthma! }} ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Alice P Michell Female Event(s): Birth: 1881 Penzance, , Cornwall, England Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: Stephen Michell Mother: Ann S Messages: Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter. Source Information: No source information is available. ((This matches the information on Alice Prout Michells birth certificate, 20/02/1881, 18 Cornwall Terrace, Penzance, which names her father as Stephen Michell and her mother as Annie Sophie Love.)) 1881 census: Alice P. MICHELL Female Other Information: Birth Year 1881 Birthplace Penzance, Cornwall, England Age 1 m Occupation -- Marital Status -- Head of Household Stephen MICHELL Relation Daur Disability -- Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Stephen MICHELL Head M Male 31 St Day, Cornwall, England Accountant Corn Seed Etc (Clk) Ann S. MICHELL Wife M Female 27 Penzance, Cornwall, England Stephen H. MICHELL Son Male 1 Penzance, Cornwall, England Alice P. MICHELL Daur Female 1m Penzance, Cornwall, England Lucretia CHESTER Nurse M Female 46 Penzance, Cornwall, England Nurse Eliz.E. DAVEY Servant U Female 23 Gwennap, Cornwall, England General Servant Source Information: Dwelling Commercial Road Census Place Phillack, Cornwall, England Family History Library Film 1341562 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2337 / 33 Page Number 28 ((Why did Stephen and/or Ann have a nurse? Was Nurse Chester actually a babysitter?)) 1891 Census: Civil parish: Phillack Urban Sanitary District: Phillack Ecclesiastical parish: St Elwyn County: Cornwall Street address: Commercial Rd Source information: RG12/1852 Registration district: Redruth Sub registration district: Phillack ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Folio: 26 Page: 15 Stephen Michell Head M 41 Accountant Cornwall St. Day Annie L.(S.?) Michell Wife M 39 -- Cornwall Penzance Stephen H. Michell Son 11 Scholar Cornwall Penzance Alice P. Michell Daur 10 Scholar Cornwall Penzance William L.(S?) Michell Son 9 Scholar Cornwall Hayle Thomas L.(S? J?) Michell Son 8 Scholar Cornwall Hayle Sidney L.(?) Michell Son 6 Scholar Cornwall Hayle Violet E.(?) Michell Daur 4 -- Cornwall Hayle Amelia Love Mother in Law Wid 63 Living on her means Cornwall Calstock Elizabeth Hic[kh]in Serv S 20 General Servant Domestic Cornwall Phillack 1911 Census - Alfred Watson, Alice Watson, son Thomas Watson --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN8529 RG78PN441 RD166 SD1 ED21 SN212 Schedule Number: 212 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Northamptonshire District: Wellingborough Subdistrict: Wellingborough Enumeration District: 21 Parish: Wellingborough -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alfred Watson Head M 29 Married Assistant Gas Works Manager Worker Gibraltar Spain (resident) c1882 <31> Alice Watson Wife F 30 Married 5 1 1 0 Penzance Cornwall c1883 Alice Prout Michell <32> Thomas Watson Son M 4 Wellingborough Northants c1907 <9> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 6 Signature (sig) Alfd Watson Postal Address Trewithen/Spewithen(?), Castle St, Wellingborough --------------------------------------------------------- 1911 Census - Stephen Michell, wife Annie Michell (nee Annie Love), son Arthur --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN14077 RG78PN839 RD300 SD4 ED21 SN295 Schedule Number: 295 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Cornwall District: Penzance Subdistrict: Penzance Enumeration District: 21 Parish: Penzance -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mary Callenso Head F 58 Single - - - - Penzance, Cornwall c1853 Stephen Michell Visitor M 61 Married - - - - Accountant & company secretary Commercial St Days, Cornwall c1850 <86> Annie Sophie Michell Visitor F 57 Married 32 7 7 - Penzance, Cornwall c1854 Annie Sophia Love <87> Arthur Davey Michell Visitor M 17 Single - - - - School Hayle, Cornwall c1894 <<32>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 6 Signature (sig) Mary Callenso Postal Address 4 South Terrace, Penzance, Cornwall --------------------------------------------------------- _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ /=============================================================================/ ID: <33> Status: D Name: \Thomas Watson\ Gender: M Gen: -4 Position: 01000 Born: 10/01/1852, Edinburgh [Greville] [CoSPR] Married: 04/05/1874, Glasgow [Greville] [CoSPR] Died: 01/12/1924, Rushden, Northants [Greville] Partner: <34> Child: <31> Father: <133> Mother: <134> Sibling: \Christian Stastie Watson:1846\ (female) Born 08/01/1846 [CoSPR] \William Watson:1847\ Born 22/09/1847 [CoSPR] \Helen Watson:1849\ Born 04/06/1849 [CoSPR] Notes: 1911 Census - Thomas Watson, wife Grace Watson (Grace Jago), daughter Christian --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN8554 RG78PN442 RD166 SD2 ED21 SN284 Schedule Number: 284 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Northamptonshire District: Wellingborough Subdistrict: Higham Ferrers Enumeration District: 21 Parish: Rushden -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Watson Head M 59 Married 36 8 5 3 Gas Engineer & Manager Gas Manufacture Employer Edinburgh, Midlothian, NB c1852 <33> Grace Rundle Watson Wife F 56 Married 36 8 5 3 - - - - Glasgow, Lanark, NB c1855 Grace Rundle Jago <34> Christan Miller Watson Daughter F 31 Single - - - - Teacher Northants Education Committee Copiaps, Chili, Sth America c1880 <<31>> Janet Cooper Visitor F 60 Married 35 5 4 1 - - Glasgow, Lanark, NB c1851 ???????? Martha Lydia Thompson Servant F 22 Single - - - - General Servant Domestic - - - Broughton, Northants c1889 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 9 Signature (sig) Thomas Watson Postal Address Gas Works Villa, Rushden, Northants --------------------------------------------------------- In 1901 census: PRO Reference: RG Number, Series RG13 Piece 1440 Folio 164 Page 17 Schedule Number 74 Location: Address Shirley Park Civil Parish Rushden Rural District -- Town or Village or Hamlet Rushden Parliamentary Borough or Division East Northamptonshire Ecclesiastical Parish Rushden Administrative County Northamptonshire County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District -- Ward of Municipal Borough or Urban District -- Thomas Watson, 49, Gas Enginer & Manager, born Scotland Grace N Watson, 46, born Scotland Ann C Watson, 24, Civil Service Sort & Clerk Telegraph, Chile S A British Subject Christian M Watson, 21, Teacher In Board School, Chile S A British Subject Helen Watson, 16, Student For Civil Service (nullworking at home), born Gibraltar No matching Thomas Watson and Grace Watson in 1881 England census. They were born in Scotland, and were married in 1874 in Scotland. They are also known to be in Rushden, England by the 1901 census. Possibly they moved from Scotland to England between 3 April 1881 and 31 March 1901. Born 10/01/1852 Recorded in [Church of Scotland PR] via ScotlandsPeople, at St Cuthberts parish, Edinburgh (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Cuthbert%27s_Church,_Edinburgh). Also siblings Helen Watson born 04/06/1849 William Watson born 22/09/1847 Christian Stastie Watson born 08/01/1846 --- The ONLY result for Thomas Watson born/baptised back between 1850 and 1855 to James and Christian Surname Forename Parents/Other details Gender Birth/Baptism Date Parish Number Ref Parish WATSON THOMAS JAMES WATSON/CHRISTIAN MILLER FR9871 (FR9871) M 10/01/1852 685 / 2 380 / 232 St Cuthbert's 1852 WATSON, THOMAS (Old Parish Registers Births 685/ 2 St Cuthbert's) Page 232 of 542 https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/image-viewer/opr_births/opr_records-102621?search_token=1903330856668d30441b629 208 Register of Births and Baptisms for 1854 25th December £100 18 ~ [...] Watson James, Blacksmith Residing at No 9 Stacles(?) St Parish of St Cuthberts - and Christian Miller his 1338 spouse had a daughter born to them on the eighth January Eighteen hundred and forty six 1340 Named Christian Stastie(?) " 1 6 also a son born on the twenty second September Eighteen 1339 hundred and forty seven 1341 Named William " 1 6 also a daughter born on the fourth June Eighteen hundred 1340 and forty nine 1342 Named Helen " 1 6 also a son born on the tenth January Eighteen hundred and 1341 fifty two 1343 Named Thomas " 1 6 [...] --- Married 04/05/1874, 3 Allanton(?) Terrace, Langside(?) Road Parish, Govan ([Church of Scotland PR] via ScotlandsPeople) Parents James Watson <133> and Christian Watson (nee Miller) <134> --- 1874 WATSON, THOMAS (Statutory registers Marriages 646/2 34) https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/image-viewer/stat_marriages/stat_marriages-5102059_4665826_5102059_1417681?search_token=440469237668d290e5ffdf --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When/Where Signature Age Residence Father/Mother Minister/Witnesses When/Where Registered and how Married --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1874 (signed) 44 Dalmarnock(?) Road James Watson (signed) 1874 on the Fourth Thomas Watson 22 Baltam(?) Glasgow Manager/Gas ...... William D Barton May 5th day of May Mechanical Draughtsman and Christian Watson Wesleyan Minister at Allanton(?) Terrace (Bachelor) ?. S. Miller (?) At Strath?ango (?) Langside(?) Road Parish (signed) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- of Govan (signed) 3 Allanton(?) Terrace Alfred Thomas Jago R.K.Strang Alexander after Banns according Grace Rundle Jago 22 Langside(?) Road Railway Clerk Witness Wilson to the Forms of the (Spinster) and Ann Thomson Jago Ann Cooper Jago Registrar Wesleyan Church ?. S. Cooper Witness --- /=============================================================================/ ID: <34> Status: D Name: \Grace Rundle Jago\ Gender: F Gen: -4 Position: 01001 Born: 10/01/1855, Glasgow [Greville] In 1861: Aged 6, so born c1855, Glasgow, Lanarkshire; Scholar; living at 147 Hospital St, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1861C] In 1871: Aged 16, so born c1855, Glasgow, Lanarkshire; Domestic Duties; living at 3 Allanton Ter[race], Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1871C] In 1891: Aged 36, so born c1855, Glasgow, Lanarkshire; Gas Engineer's Wife; living at 19 Langside Road, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1891C] Married: 04/05/1874, Glasgow [Greville] Died: 02/12/1916, Rushden, Northants [Greville] Partner: <33> Child: <31> Father: <35> Mother: <36> Sibling: \Helen Bishop Jago:1849\, born 27/06/1849, (Glasgow?) [Greville] In 1851: Aged 1, so born c1850, Glasgow, Lanark; living at 146 Hospital Street, Gorbals, Lanarkshire [1851C] In 1861: Aged 11, so born c1850, Glasgow, Lanarkshire; Scholar; living at 147 Hospital St, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1861C] Married \George Findlay:c1849\ on 07/03/1871, Queens Park, Glasgow [Greville] Children: \Ann Findlay:1872\, born 20/05/1872, Glasgow [Greville] \Helen Jago Findlay:1874\, born 16/01/1874, Glasgow [Greville] \William Findlay:1875\, born 18/07/1875, Glasgow [Greville] \George B. Findlay:c1880\, born c1880, Glasgow [Greville] \Isabella Jago Findlay:1885\, born 30/09/1885, Glasgow [Greville] \Arthur Steven Findlay:1888\, born 08/01/1888, Glasgow; died 22/03/1907, Glasgow [Greville] \Josias Jago:1851\, born 08/02/1851, Glasgow [Greville] In 1851: Aged 2 months, so born 1851, Glasgow, Lanark; living at 146 Hospital Street, Gorbals, Lanarkshire [1851C] \Isabella Gifford Jago:1852:1878\, born 27/11/1852, Glasgow; [Greville] In 1861: Aged 8, so born c1853, Glasgow, Lanarkshire; Scholar; living at 147 Hospital St, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1861C] Married \James Cocker:c1840\ on 24/08/1869, Manton Terrace, Strathbungo; [Greville] James born c1840, Glasgow [Greville] Died 06/07/1878, Eglinton Street, Glasgow [Greville] Children: \Margaret Kerr Cocker:1872\, born 07/07/1872, Eglinton Street, Glasgow [Greville] \Isabella Giford Cocker:1878\, born 29/06/1878, Eglinton Street, Glasgow [Greville] \Alfred Thomas Jago:1857:1930\, born 07/04/1857, Hutchesontown, Glasgow; [Greville] In 1861: Aged 4, so born c1857, Glasgow, Lanarkshire; living at 147 Hospital St, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1861C] In 1871: Aged 13, so born c1858, Glasgow, Lanarkshire; Scholar; living at 3 Allanton Ter[race], Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1871C] Died 17/03/1930, Glasgow-1930 [Greville] Occupation: Railway Clerk [Greville] Married \Catherine McDiarmid:c1857\ on 12/06/1884, Kinning Park, Glasgow [Greville] Children: \Alfred Thomas Jago:1885\, born 14/12/1885, Govanhill, Glasgow; Died 13/04/1909, Glasgow [Greville] Married \Jane Johnston:1887\ on 25/11/1887, Johnstone, Renfrewshire [Greville] Children: \Robert Johnston Jago:1889:1889\, born 19/04/1889, Glasgow; Died 25/07/1889, Glasgow [Greville] \Mary Cairney Jago:1890:1891\, born 06/12/1890, Govanhill, Glasgow; Died 05/11/1891, Govanhill, Glasgow [Greville] \James Cooper Jago:1859\, born 27/05/1859, Hospital Street, Glasgow [Greville] James H St Jago: In 1861: Aged 1, so born c1860, Glasgow, Lanarkshire; living at 147 Hospital St, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1861C] In 1871: Aged 11, so born c1860, Glasgow, Lanarkshire; Scholar; living at 3 Allanton Ter[race], Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1871C] \Ann Cooper Jago:1861:1879\, born 07/05/1861, Hutchesontown, Glasgow; Died 28/01/1879, Gorbals, Glasgow [Greville] In 1871: Aged 9, so born c1862, Glasgow, Lanarkshire; Scholar; living at 3 Allanton Ter[race], Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1871C] \Elizabeth Broderick Jago:1863:1935\ In 1871: Aged 7, so born c1864, Glasgow, Lanarkshire; Scholar; living at 3 Allanton Ter[race], Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1871C] Gained majority (became age 21?) on 11/08/1883 [will of Alfred Jago <35>] So born c1862? Residing in Annette Street, Govanhill, Glasgow in 1883 [will of Alfred Jago <35>] Born 11/08/1863, Lilybank Cottage, Dumbarton [Greville] Died 02/03/1935, Rose Street, Dunfermline [Greville] Married \George Nicol:c1852\ (born c.1852?) on 30/12/1919, Dixon Avenue, Glasgow [Greville] \William Cooper Jago:1869\, born 07/07/1869, Govan, Glasgow; Died 12/03/1874, Govan, Glasgow [Greville] In 1871: Aged 1, so born c1870, Glasgow, Lanarkshire; living at 3 Allanton Ter[race], Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1871C] Notes: On Elizabeth Broderick Jago, from the will of Alfred Jago <35> : "At Glasgow 27 July 1883, Compeared George Jackson, Writer, Glasgow and gave in the Inventory to be recorded whereof the tenor follows:- Inventory of the Personal Estate wheresoever situated of Alfred Thomas Jago Accountant of the Caledonian Railway Company who died at No.14 Langside Road, Govanhill, Glasgow, on the twenty eighth day of March, Eighteen hundred and eighty three:- ... that the said Alfred Thomas Jago died at number fourteen Langside Road, Govanhill, Glasgow, domiciled there upon the twenty eighth day of March Eighteen hundred and eighty three, and left lawful issue surviving but no Widows that the Deponent has entered upon the possession and management of the deceased's estate as Executor nominated by him along with Elizabeth Broderick Jago, daughter of Testator, presently residing in Annette Street, Govanhill (but who is not entitled to act as Executor till the eleventh day of August Eighteen hundred and eighty four on which day she attains majority) in a deed of Settlement executed by him on the ninth day of March and registered in the Sheriff Court Books for the County of Lanark, kept at Glasgow on the seventh day of April both in the year Eighteen hundred and eighty three ..." 1911 Census - Thomas Watson, wife Grace Watson (Grace Jago), daughter Christian --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN8554 RG78PN442 RD166 SD2 ED21 SN284 Schedule Number: 284 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Northamptonshire District: Wellingborough Subdistrict: Higham Ferrers Enumeration District: 21 Parish: Rushden -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Watson Head M 59 Married 36 8 5 3 Gas Engineer & Manager Gas Manufacture Employer Edinburgh, Midlothian, NB c1852 <33> Grace Rundle Watson Wife F 56 Married 36 8 5 3 - - - - Glasgow, Lanark, NB c1855 Grace Rundle Jago <34> Christan Miller Watson Daughter F 31 Single - - - - Teacher Northants Education Committee Copiaps, Chili, Sth America c1880 <<31>> Janet Cooper Visitor F 60 Married 35 5 4 1 - - Glasgow, Lanark, NB c1851 ???????? Martha Lydia Thompson Servant F 22 Single - - - - General Servant Domestic - - - Broughton, Northants c1889 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 9 Signature (sig) Thomas Watson Postal Address Gas Works Villa, Rushden, Northants --------------------------------------------------------- 1891 Scotland Census Registration Number: 644/12 Registration district: Gorbals Civil parish: Glasgow Govan County: Lanarkshire Address: 19 Langside Road ED: 96 Household schedule number: 126 Roll: CSSCT1891_293 Source Citation: Parish: Glasgow Govan; ED: 96; Page: 23; Line: 1; Roll CSSCT1891_293; Year: 1891. Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1891 Scotland Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007. Original data: Scotland. 1891 Scotland Census. Reels 1-409. General Register Office for Scotland, Edinburgh, Scotland. Name Age Est B year Relationship Gender Where born Occupation Grace R Watson 36 abt 1855 Head Female Glasgow, Lanarkshire Gas Engineer's Wife Ann C Watson 14 abt 1877 Daur Female British Subj, S America Scholar Christina M Watson 11 abt 1880 Daur Female British Subj, S America Scholar Alfred I Watson 9 abt 1882 Son Male Gibraltar Scholar Grace R Watson 8 abt 1883 Daur Female Gibraltar Scholar Helen Watson 6 abt 1885 Daur Female Gibraltar Scholar 1871 Scotland Census Registration Number: 646/2 Registration district: Park Civil parish: Govan County: Lanarkshire Address: 3 Allanton Ter Roll: CSSCT1871_144 ED: 7 Household schedule number: 11 Source Citation: Parish: Govan; ED: 7; Page: 3; Line: 9; Roll CSSCT1871_144; Year: 1871. Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1871 Scotland Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007. Original data: Scotland. 1871 Scotland Census. Reels 1-191. General Register Office for Scotland, Edinburgh, Scotland. Name Age Est B year Relationship Gender Where born Occupation Alfred T Gage [Jago] 44 abt 1827 Head Male England Railway Clerk Ann Gage [Jago] 42 abt 1829 Wife Female Hamilton, Lanarkshire - Grace Gage [Jago] 16 abt 1855 Daughter Female Glasgow, Lanarkshire Domestic Duties Alfred Gage [Jago] 13 abt 1858 Son Male Glasgow, Lanarkshire Scholar James Gage [Jago] 11 abt 1860 Son Male Glasgow, Lanarkshire Scholar Ann Gage [Jago] 9 abt 1862 Daughter Female Glasgow, Lanarkshire Scholar Elizabeth Gage [Jago] 7 abt 1864 Daughter Female Dumbarton, Dumbartonshire Scholar William Gage [Jago] 1 abt 1870 Son Male Glasgow, Lanarkshire - 1861 Scotland Census Registration Number: 644/10 Registration district: Hutchesontown Civil parish: Glasgow Govan County: Lanarkshire Address: 147 Hospital St ED: 56 Page: 12 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 58 Line: 16 Roll: CSSCT1861_112 Name Gender Age EstBYear Relationship Occupation Where born ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Alfred St Jago Male 36 abt 1825 Head Railway Clerk England Ann St Jago Female 32 abt 1829 Wife Hamilton, Lanarkshire Elizabeth B St Jago Female 24 abt 1837 Sister House Keeper England Helen B St Jago Female 11 abt 1850 Daughter Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire Isabella G St Jago Female 8 abt 1853 Daughter Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire Grace R St Jago Female 6 abt 1855 Daughter Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire Alfred T St Jago Male 4 abt 1857 Son Glasgow, Lanarkshire James H St Jago Male 1 abt 1860 Son Glasgow, Lanarkshire 1851 Scotland Census Parish Number: 644/2 Civil parish: Gorbals County: Lanarkshire Address: 146 Hospital Street ED: 5 Page: 24 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 92 Line: 15 Roll: CSSCT1851_163 Name Gender Age EstBYear Relationship Occupation Where born ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Alfred Jago Male 24 abt 1827 Head Railway Clerk England Ann Jago Female 22 abt 1829 Wife Hamilton, Lanark Elizabeth Jago Female 14 abt 1837 Sister England Helen Jago Female 1 abt 1850 Daughter Glasgow, Lanark Josias Jago Male 2 Mo abt 1851 Son Glasgow, Lanark See Thomas Watson <33> for extra information. Name: Grace R Watson Death Registration Month/Year: 1916 Age at death (estimated): 61 Registration district: Wellingborough Inferred County: Northamptonshire Volume: 3b Page: 183 Name: Grace Rundle Watson Probate Date: 8 Jan 1917 Death Date: 2 Dec 1916 Death Place: Northamptonshire, England Registry: London Source Information: Ancestry.com. England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010. Original data: Principal Probate Registry. Calendar of the Grants of Probate and Letters of Administration made in the Probate Registries of the High Court of Justice in England. London, England © Crown copyright. Probate calenda entry reads: Grace Rundle of Shirley Road Rushden Northamptonshire (wife of Thomas Watson) died 2 December 1916 Administration London 8 January to the said Thomas Watson gas engineer. Effects £183 13s. 8d. /=============================================================================/ ID: <35> Status: D Name: \Alfred Thomas Jago\ Gender: M Gen: -5 Position: 010010 Born: c1825, Gloucestershire [Greville] In 1851: Aged 24, so born c1827, England; Railway Clerk; living at 146 Hospital Street, Gorbals, Lanarkshire [1851C] In 1861: Aged 36, so born c1825, England; Railway Clerk; living at 147 Hospital St, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1861C] In 1871: Aged 44, so born c1827, England; Railway Clerk; living at 3 Allanton Ter[race], Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1871C] Married: 28/08/1848, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland [Greville] Died: 28/03/1883, 14 Langside Road, Govanhill, Glasgow [Greville, will] Partner: <36> Child: <34> Father: <37> Mother: <38> Sibling: \Edwin Brooks Jago:c1826:1888\, born c1826, England [Greville] Died 18/07/1888, Hospital Street, Glasgow [Greville] In 1841: Aged 15, so born c1826, England; Living at 167 Main St Gorbals, Gorbals, Lanarkshire; Shop Boy [1841C] In 1851: Aged 26, so born c1825, England; Living at 4 Reform Court, Gorbals, Lanarkshire; Ironmonger [1851C] In 1861: Aged 35, so born c1826, England; Saleaman Ironmanger; living at 92 Rutherglen Loan, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1861C] Married \Mary Robertson Brown:c1823:1889\ on 31/05/1850, Glasgow [Greville] In 1851: Mary is aged 26, so born c1825, Glasgow, Lanark; Living at 4 Reform Court, Gorbals, Lanarkshire [1851C] In 1861: Aged 37, so born c1824, Glasgow, Lanarkshire; living at 92 Rutherglen Loan, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1861C] Mary born c1823, Glasgow; Died 19/12/1889, Caledonia Road, Glasgow [Greville] Full name Mary Robertson Brown taken from death cert [death cert of Mary] Mary's father: \William Brown\, a Lithographer journeyman, deceased by 20/12/1889 [death cert of Mary] Mary's mother: \Amelia Robertson\, deceased by 20/12/1889 [death cert of Mary] Data from http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=localities.britisles.scotland.lks.general&m=4888 "I have a list of Death Certificates here that I would be happy to send on to those who have these family members. 19 Dec 1889 Mary Robertson Jago widow of Edwin Brooks Jago. Aged: 65. Father: William Brown. Mother: Amelia Brown nee Robertson." Death cert: Mary Robertson Jago, Female, 65 years old, Widow of Edwin Brooks Jago (Ironmonger Master) When/Where - 19/12/1889, 5:30pm, 42 Caledonia Road, Glasgow Parents - William Brown (Lithographer journeyman (deceased)), Amelia Brown nee Robertson (deceased) Cause of death - Disease of the Heart, Congestion of the Lungs, Congestion of the Kidneys, as cert by Alan Morton MD Registered - 20/12/1889, Glasgow, by Mary Brown Halliday, Daughter Children: \Amelia Robertson Jago:1851:1917\, born 08/10/1851, Glasgow; [Greville] In 1861: Aged 9, so born c1852, Glasgow, Lanarkshire; living at 92 Rutherglen Loan, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1861C] Died 29/03/1917, Western Infirmary, Glasgow [Greville] Married \John Fountain:c1848\ on 07/10/1880, Hospital Street, Glasgow [Greville] John born c1848, Lincoln, England [Greville] Children: \Mary Robertson Brown Fountain:1881\, born 15/09/1881, McLean Street, Govan, Glasgow [Greville] \Sarah Martin Fountain:1883\, born 16/07/1883, Paisley Road West, Govan, Glasgow [Greville] \Joseph Rowston Fountain:1885\, born 30/03/1885, Paisley Road West, Govan, Glasgow [Greville] \Josias Jago:1854:1918\, born 04/01/1854, Glasgow; [Greville] In 1861: Aged 7, so born c1854, Glasgow, Lanarkshire; living at 92 Rutherglen Loan, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1861C] Died 03/10/1918, Barnhill Poor House, Glasgow [Greville] Married \Sarah Cameron Fairlie:c1854:1923\ on 10/03/1876, Adelphi Street, Glasgow [Greville] Sarah born c1854, Waterside, Ayrshire [Greville] died 19/03/1923, Comely Park Street, Glasgow [Greville] Children: \Edwin Brooks Jago:1877\, born 30/04/1877, Garngad Road, Glasgow [Greville] \Jane Douglas Roy Jago:1879\, born 28/05/1879, Bellfield Street, Glasgow [Greville] \John Fairlie Jago:1883\, born 09/08/1883, Comely Street, Glasgow [Greville] \Josias Jago:1885\, born 01/12/1885, Comely Park Street, Glasgow [Greville] \Grace Rundle Jago:c1854\, born 04/01/1854(??????), Glasgow [Greville] In 1861: Aged 7, so born c1854, Glasgow, Lanarkshire; living at 92 Rutherglen Loan, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1861C] Married \James Rutherford:c1861\ on 17/08/1886, Cathcart Street, Glasgow [Greville] James born c1861, Greenock, Renfrewshire [Greville] Children: \Edwin James Rutherford:1888\, born 18/06/1888, Caledonia Road, Glasgow [Greville] \Alexander Gair Rutherford:1891\, born 20/07/1891, Caledonia Road, Glasgow [Greville] \Josias Jago Rutherford:1891\, born 20/07/1891, Caledonia Road, Glasgow; Died 22/07/1891, Caledonia Road, Glasgow [Greville] \Mary Robertson Brown Rutherford:1893\, born 24/09/1893, Caledonia Road, Glasgow [Greville] \William Brown Jago:1856\, 16/03/1856, Milton Street, Glasgow [Greville] In 1861: Aged 5, so born c1856, Glasgow, Lanarkshire; living at 92 Rutherglen Loan, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1861C] Married \Jessie Groat Balfour:1860\ on 13/09/1883, Cathcart Road, Glasgow [Greville] Jessie born 25/01/1860, Cathcart Street, Glasgow [Greville] Children: \Jessie Groat Balfour Jago:1886\, born 11/07/1886, Glasgow [Greville] \Edwin Brooks Jago:1889\, born 24/04/1889, Murdieston Street, Glasgow [Greville] \William Balfour Paterson Jago:1893\, born 12/06/1893, Murdieston Street, Glasgow [Greville] \Mary Robertson Brown Jago:1896\, born 12/09/1896, Greenock, Renfrewshire [Greville] \Mary Brown Jago:1857\, born 23/12/1857, Glasgow; Died 26/12/1857, Glasgow [Greville] \Mary Brown Jago:1859\, born 11/05/1859, Glasgow [Greville] In 1861: Aged 1, so born c1860, Glasgow, Lanarkshire; living at 92 Rutherglen Loan, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1861C] Alive on 19/12/1889, at time of death of mother Mary Robertson Jago (nee Brown) [death cert of Mary Robertson Brown] Married \Thomas Halliday:1855\ on 03/12/1885, Hospital Street, Glasgow [Greville] Thomas born 27/02/1855, Milton Street, Glasgow [Greville] Children: \Isabella Halliday:c1877\, born c1877, England [Greville] \George R Halliday:c1887\, born c1887, England [Greville] \Edwin J Halliday:c1889\, born c1889, England [Greville] \Elizabeth Moore Jago:1861\, born 27/07/1861, Shamrock Street, Glasgow [Greville] \Josias Coke Jago:1832:1869\, born c1832, Scotland? [Greville] Died 21/09/1869, Kilsyth, Stirlingshire [Greville] In 1841: Aged 9, so born c1832, England; Living at 167 Main St Gorbals, Gorbals, Lanarkshire [1841C] In 1861: Aged 29, so born c1832, England; Temperance Lecturer; living at Manse, Loudoun, Ayrshire; lodger with 36 year old Robert Anderson [1861C] Married \Margaret McKay:c1832\ on 27/05/1859, Blythswood, Glasgow [Greville] Margaret born c1832, Busby, Renfrewshire [Greville] Children: \John McKay Jago:1862\, born 10/01/1862, Florence Street, Glasgow [Greville] \Isabella Crawford Jago:1864\, born 12/03/1864, Cullen, Banffshire, Scotland [Greville] Married \Thomas Brown:c1861\ on 01/04/1892, St Andrews Hall, Glasgow [Greville] Thomas born c1861, Scotland? [Greville] Children: \Agnes Fulton Brown:1900\, born 21/10/1900, Glasgow [Greville] \Edwin Brookes Jago:1866\, born 11/04/1866, Kilsyth, Stirlingshire [Greville] \Grace Jago:1868:1933\, born 29/08/1868, Kilsyth, Stirlingshire [Greville] Died 07/09/1933, Hillhead, Lanarkshire [Greville] Married \James Stormonth:c1866\ on 29/12/1896, Bath Street, Glasgow [Greville] James born c1866, Scotland? [Greville] \Elizabeth Broderick Jago:c1836:1866\, born c1836, Glasgow [Greville] In 1841: Aged 5, so born c1836, England; Living at 167 Main St Gorbals, Gorbals, Lanarkshire [1841C] In 1851: Aged 14, so born c1837, England; living at 146 Hospital Street, Gorbals, Lanarkshire [1851C] In 1861: Aged 24, so born c1837, England; House Keeper; living at 147 Hospital St, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1861C] Died 16/02/1866, Main Street, Glasgow [Greville] Married \James Bain:c1831\ on 28/07/1863, Dumbarton, Scotland [Greville] James born c1831, Neilston, Renfrew, Scotland [Greville] \John Wesley Jago:c1830\ In 1841: Aged 11, so born c1830, England; Living at 167 Main St Gorbals, Gorbals, Lanarkshire [1841C] ** RELATIONSHIPS NOT INDICATED IN SCOTLAND 1841 CENSUS, SO UNSURE IF A SIBLING OF ALFRED ** In 1861: Aged 31, so born c1830, England; Cashier (leather Factors); living at 148 Cumberland St, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1861C] Married \Margaret Pollock ____:c1830\ In 1861: Aged 31, so born c1830, Glasgow, Lanarkshire; living at 148 Cumberland St, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1861C] Children: \Agnes B M Jago:c1854\ In 1861: Aged 7, so born c1854, Greenock, Renfrewshire; living at 148 Cumberland St, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1861C] \Amelia D Jago:c1857\ In 1861: Aged 4, so born c1857, Glasgow, Lanarkshire; living at 148 Cumberland St, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1861C] \Jane A Jago:c1859\ In 1861: Aged 2, so born c1859, Lugar, Ayrshire; living at 148 Cumberland St, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1861C] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Notes: "Accountant of the Caledonian Railway Company" [will] From the will of Alfred Jago <35> : "At Glasgow 27 July 1883, Compeared George Jackson, Writer, Glasgow and gave in the Inventory to be recorded whereof the tenor follows:- Inventory of the Personal Estate wheresoever situated of Alfred Thomas Jago Accountant of the Caledonian Railway Company who died at No.14 Langside Road, Govanhill, Glasgow, on the twenty eighth day of March, Eighteen hundred and eighty three:- ... that the said Alfred Thomas Jago died at number fourteen Langside Road, Govanhill, Glasgow, domiciled there upon the twenty eighth day of March Eighteen hundred and eighty three, and left lawful issue surviving but no Widows that the Deponent has entered upon the possession and management of the deceased's estate as Executor nominated by him along with Elizabeth Broderick Jago, daughter of Testator, presently residing in Annette Street, Govanhill (but who is not entitled to act as Executor till the eleventh day of August Eighteen hundred and eighty four on which day she attains majority) in a deed of Settlement executed by him on the ninth day of March and registered in the Sheriff Court Books for the County of Lanark, kept at Glasgow on the seventh day of April both in the year Eighteen hundred and eighty three ..." 1871 Scotland Census Registration Number: 646/2 Registration district: Park Civil parish: Govan County: Lanarkshire Address: 3 Allanton Ter Roll: CSSCT1871_144 ED: 7 Household schedule number: 11 Source Citation: Parish: Govan; ED: 7; Page: 3; Line: 9; Roll CSSCT1871_144; Year: 1871. Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1871 Scotland Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007. Original data: Scotland. 1871 Scotland Census. Reels 1-191. General Register Office for Scotland, Edinburgh, Scotland. Name Age Est B year Relationship Gender Where born Occupation Alfred T Gage [Jago] 44 abt 1827 Head Male England Railway Clerk Ann Gage [Jago] 42 abt 1829 Wife Female Hamilton, Lanarkshire - Grace Gage [Jago] 16 abt 1855 Daughter Female Glasgow, Lanarkshire Domestic Duties Alfred Gage [Jago] 13 abt 1858 Son Male Glasgow, Lanarkshire Scholar James Gage [Jago] 11 abt 1860 Son Male Glasgow, Lanarkshire Scholar Ann Gage [Jago] 9 abt 1862 Daughter Female Glasgow, Lanarkshire Scholar Elizabeth Gage [Jago] 7 abt 1864 Daughter Female Dumbarton, Dumbartonshire Scholar William Gage [Jago] 1 abt 1870 Son Male Glasgow, Lanarkshire - 1861 Scotland Census Registration Number: 644/10 Registration district: Hutchesontown Civil parish: Glasgow Govan County: Lanarkshire Address: 147 Hospital St ED: 56 Page: 12 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 58 Line: 16 Roll: CSSCT1861_112 Name Gender Age EstBYear Relationship Occupation Where born ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Alfred St Jago Male 36 abt 1825 Head Railway Clerk England Ann St Jago Female 32 abt 1829 Wife Hamilton, Lanarkshire Elizabeth B St Jago Female 24 abt 1837 Sister House Keeper England Helen B St Jago Female 11 abt 1850 Daughter Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire Isabella G St Jago Female 8 abt 1853 Daughter Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire Grace R St Jago Female 6 abt 1855 Daughter Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire Alfred T St Jago Male 4 abt 1857 Son Glasgow, Lanarkshire James H St Jago Male 1 abt 1860 Son Glasgow, Lanarkshire 1861 Scotland Census Registration Number: 644/10 Registration district: Hutchesontown Civil parish: Glasgow Govan County: Lanarkshire Address: 92 Rutherglen Loan ED: 35 Page: 4 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 19 Line: 21 Roll: CSSCT1861_112 Name Gender Age EstBYear Relationship Occupation Where born ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Edwin Brook Jago Male 35 abt 1826 Head Saleaman Ironmanger England Mary Robertson Jago Female 37 abt 1824 Wife Glasgow, Lanarkshire Muelea Robertson Jago Female 9 abt 1852 Daughter Glasgow, Lanarkshire Grace R Jago Female 7 abt 1854 Daughter Glasgow, Lanarkshire Josias Jago Male 7 abt 1854 Son Glasgow, Lanarkshire William B Jago Male 5 abt 1856 Son Glasgow, Lanarkshire Mary B Jago Female 1 abt 1860 Daughter Glasgow, Lanarkshire 1861 Scotland Census Registration Number: 644/10 Registration district: Hutchesontown Civil parish: Glasgow Govan County: Lanarkshire Address: 148 Cumberland St ED: 39 Page: 1 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 4 Line: 14 Roll: CSSCT1861_112 Name Gender Age EstBYear Relationship Occupation Where born ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John Wesley Jago Male 31 abt 1830 Head Cashier (leather Factors) England Margaret Pollock Jago Female 31 abt 1830 Wife Glasgow, Lanarkshire Agnes B M Jago Female 7 abt 1854 Daughter Greenock, Renfrewshire Amelia D Jago Female 4 abt 1857 Daughter Glasgow, Lanarkshire Jane A Jago Female 2 abt 1859 Daughter Lugar, Ayrshire 1861 Scotland Census Registration Number: 603 Registration district: Loudoun Civil parish: Loudoun County: Ayrshire Address: Manse ED: 9 Page: 13 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 73 Line: 2 Roll: CSSCT1861_88 Name Gender Age EstBYear Relationship Occupation Where born ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert Anderson 36 Jane Anderson 35 Mary Baird 19 Thomas Anderson 8 Jane Anderson 5 Josias Jago Male 29 abt 1832 Lodger Temperance Lecturer England 1851 Scotland Census Parish Number: 644/2 Civil parish: Gorbals County: Lanarkshire Address: 146 Hospital Street ED: 5 Page: 24 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 92 Line: 15 Roll: CSSCT1851_163 Name Gender Age EstBYear Relationship Occupation Where born ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Alfred Jago Male 24 abt 1827 Head Railway Clerk England Ann Jago Female 22 abt 1829 Wife Hamilton, Lanark Elizabeth Jago Female 14 abt 1837 Sister England Helen Jago Female 1 abt 1850 Daughter Glasgow, Lanark Josias Jago Male 2 Mo abt 1851 Son Glasgow, Lanark 1851 Scotland Census Parish Number: 644/2 Civil parish: Gorbals County: Lanarkshire Address: 4 Reform Court ED: 8C Page: 17 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 67 Line: 14 Roll: CSSCT1851_166 Name Gender Age EstBYear Relationship Occupation Where born ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Edwin B Jago Male 26 abt 1825 Head Ironmonger England Mary Jago Female 26 abt 1825 Wife Glasgow, Lanark Sidney J Jago Male 11 abt 1840 Brother Glasgow, Lanark 1841 Scotland Census Record Civil parish: Gorbals County: Lanarkshire Address: 167 Main St Gorbals Occupation: Excis Officer Parish Number: 644/2 ED: 70 Page: 13 Name MF Age Occupation EstBYear Birthplace Civil Parish County Parish Number Jonas Jago M 45 Excis Officer abt 1796 England Gorbals Lanarkshire 644/2 Mrs Jago F 45 abt 1796 England Gorbals Lanarkshire 644/2 Edwin Jago M 15 Shop Boy abt 1826 England Gorbals Lanarkshire 644/2 Alfred Jago M 14 Clerk abt 1827 England Gorbals Lanarkshire 644/2 John Jago M 11 abt 1830 England Gorbals Lanarkshire 644/2 Jonas Jago Jr M 9 abt 1832 England Gorbals Lanarkshire 644/2 Elizabeth Jago F 5 abt 1836 England Gorbals Lanarkshire 644/2 Sidney Jago M 2 abt 1839 Lanarkshire, Scotland Gorbals Lanarkshire 644/2 --- http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?josias::jago::10.html http://genforum.genealogy.com/jago/messages/10.html JAGO FAMILY CAME TO NEW ZEALAND Posted by: Sydney Jago (ID *****9665) [jago-syd AT clear.net.nz] Date: July 20, 2004 at 13:45:31 My Great Grandfather, Sydney James Jago came to NZ from unknown, having been born on Glasgow in 1839, the son of "Jago" with no first nemes shown and mother Grace Durant (the name Durant carries on through the family as a first name) - we understand that he had a brother (John Wesley Jago) born Nailsworth in Gloucestershiore in 1830 who came to NZ in 1862 (Press clipping from Dunedin shows them as brothers)- his father is recorded as Josias Jago and mother as Grace Rundle - Josias was a Customs Officer - QUESTION, are these the same mother, as that is all I can now call on to clarify the facts - HELP PLEASE WITH THIS FROM ANYONE WITH ANY INFO RE THE JAGO FAMILY - I will be in Cornwall, Nailsworth, Coleford, and Scotland during September 2004 and would like to follow up on anything worthwhile. Thanks in anticipation, Syd Jago (the 4th consecutive "Sydney" in NZ) where are the rest ?? --- Name: Alfred Thomas Watson Probate Date: 5 Aug 1938 Death Date: 26 Jun 1938 Death Place: Northamptonshire, England Registry: London Source Information: Ancestry.com. England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010. Original data: Principal Probate Registry. Calendar of the Grants of Probate and Letters of Administration made in the Probate Registries of the High Court of Justice in England. London, England © Crown copyright. Probate calenda entry reads: WATSON Alfred Thomas of Gasworks House Shirley-road Rushden Northamptonshire died 26 June 1938 at Kynance Birmingham Road Henley-in-Arden Warwickshire Administration London 5 August to Thomas Watson acting gasworks manager. Effects £1805 7s. /=============================================================================/ ID: <36> Status: D Name: \Ann Thomson Cooper\ Gender: F Gen: -5 Position: 010011 Born: c1825, Hamilton, Lanarkshire, Scotland [Greville] In 1851: Aged 22, so born c1829, Hamilton, Lanark; living at 146 Hospital Street, Gorbals, Lanarkshire [1851C] In 1861: Aged 32, so born c1829, Hamilton, Lanarkshire; living at 147 Hospital St, Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1861C] In 1871: Aged 42, so born c1829, Hamilton, Lanarkshire; living at 3 Allanton Ter[race], Glasgow Govan, Hutchesontown, Lanarkshire [1871C] Married: 28/08/1848, Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland [Greville] Died: 28/01/1877 [Greville] Partner: <35> Child: <34> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: 1851 Scotland Census Parish Number: 644/2 Civil parish: Gorbals County: Lanarkshire Address: 146 Hospital Street ED: 5 Page: 24 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 92 Line: 15 Roll: CSSCT1851_163 Name Gender Age EstBYear Relationship Occupation Where born ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Alfred Jago Male 24 abt 1827 Head Railway Clerk England Ann Jago Female 22 abt 1829 Wife Hamilton, Lanark Elizabeth Jago Female 14 abt 1837 Sister England Helen Jago Female 1 abt 1850 Daughter Glasgow, Lanark Josias Jago Male 2 Mo abt 1851 Son Glasgow, Lanark 1861 Scotland Census Registration Number: 644/10 Registration district: Hutchesontown Civil parish: Glasgow Govan County: Lanarkshire Address: 147 Hospital St ED: 56 Page: 12 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 58 Line: 16 Roll: CSSCT1861_112 Name Gender Age EstBYear Relationship Occupation Where born ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Alfred St Jago Male 36 abt 1825 Head Railway Clerk England Ann St Jago Female 32 abt 1829 Wife Hamilton, Lanarkshire Elizabeth B St Jago Female 24 abt 1837 Sister House Keeper England Helen B St Jago Female 11 abt 1850 Daughter Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire Isabella G St Jago Female 8 abt 1853 Daughter Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire Grace R St Jago Female 6 abt 1855 Daughter Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire Alfred T St Jago Male 4 abt 1857 Son Glasgow, Lanarkshire James H St Jago Male 1 abt 1860 Son Glasgow, Lanarkshire 1871 Scotland Census Registration Number: 646/2 Registration district: Park Civil parish: Govan County: Lanarkshire Address: 3 Allanton Ter Roll: CSSCT1871_144 ED: 7 Household schedule number: 11 Source Citation: Parish: Govan; ED: 7; Page: 3; Line: 9; Roll CSSCT1871_144; Year: 1871. Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1871 Scotland Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007. Original data: Scotland. 1871 Scotland Census. Reels 1-191. General Register Office for Scotland, Edinburgh, Scotland. Name Age Est B year Relationship Gender Where born Occupation Alfred T Gage [Jago] 44 abt 1827 Head Male England Railway Clerk Ann Gage [Jago] 42 abt 1829 Wife Female Hamilton, Lanarkshire - Grace Gage [Jago] 16 abt 1855 Daughter Female Glasgow, Lanarkshire Domestic Duties Alfred Gage [Jago] 13 abt 1858 Son Male Glasgow, Lanarkshire Scholar James Gage [Jago] 11 abt 1860 Son Male Glasgow, Lanarkshire Scholar Ann Gage [Jago] 9 abt 1862 Daughter Female Glasgow, Lanarkshire Scholar Elizabeth Gage [Jago] 7 abt 1864 Daughter Female Dumbarton, Dumbartonshire Scholar William Gage [Jago] 1 abt 1870 Son Male Glasgow, Lanarkshire - British Isles Vital Records Index: Are any of these Ann <36> ? COOPER, Anne Christening Gender: Female Birth Date: 29 Apr 1822 Birthplace: Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Recorded in: Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Collection: St Cuthbert Father: Thomas COOPER Mother: Janet HOWAT Source: FHL Film 993529 Dates: 1806 - 1826 COOPER, Anne Christening Gender: Female Birth Date: 1 Apr 1823 Birthplace: Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Recorded in: Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Father: James COOPER Mother: Margaret COLLIE Source: FHL Film 1066691 Dates: 1809 - 1855 ** * COUPER OR HOSIE, Anne Christening * Gender: Female * Birth Date: 21 Apr 1824 * Christening Date: 12 May 1824 Recorded in: Rutherglen, Lanarkshire, Scotland * Father: Robert COUPER * Mother: Agnes RANKIN * Source: FHL Film 1066604 Dates: 1698 - 1855 ** COUPER, Anne Christening Gender: Female Birth Date: 5 Apr 1827 Christening Date: 3 Nov 1827 Recorded in: Wiston and Roberton, Lanarkshire, Scotland Father: James COUPER Mother: Sarah WILSON Source: FHL Film 1066609 Dates: 1726 - 1855 /=============================================================================/ ID: <37> Status: D Name: \Josias Jago\ Gender: M Gen: -6 Position: 0100100 Born: Probably c1800, possibly in Scotland? [Greville] Married: ??? 1806 ??? [Pallets marriage index] Died: ??? Partner: <38> Child: <35> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: 1841 Scotland Census Record Civil parish: Gorbals County: Lanarkshire Address: 167 Main St Gorbals Occupation: Excis Officer Parish Number: 644/2 ED: 70 Page: 13 Name MF Age Occupation EstBYear Birthplace Civil Parish County Parish Number Jonas Jago M 45 Excis Officer abt 1796 England Gorbals Lanarkshire 644/2 Mrs Jago F 45 abt 1796 England Gorbals Lanarkshire 644/2 Edwin Jago M 15 Shop Boy abt 1826 England Gorbals Lanarkshire 644/2 Alfred Jago M 14 Clerk abt 1827 England Gorbals Lanarkshire 644/2 John Jago M 11 abt 1830 England Gorbals Lanarkshire 644/2 Jonas Jago Jr M 9 abt 1832 England Gorbals Lanarkshire 644/2 Elizabeth Jago F 5 abt 1836 England Gorbals Lanarkshire 644/2 Sidney Jago M 2 abt 1839 Lanarkshire, Scotland Gorbals Lanarkshire 644/2 _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Pallots marriage index (ancestry.co.uk) records a marriage of a Grace Rundle with a Thos. Jago in 1806, in Jacobstow Cornwall. This is doubtful to be Josias <37> and Grace <38>, due to the proximity to their most probable birth period of c.1800, but you never know. It may alternately be connected to earlier Jago relations of Josias and/or Grace. -- Pallot's Baptism Index for England: 1780 - 1837 Name: Josias Jago Baptism Date: Jun 1798 Parent 1: Josias Jago Parent 2: Peternell Jago Parish: Talland County: Cornwall Source Information: Ancestry.com. Pallot's Baptism Index for England: 1780 - 1837 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2001. Original data: The original paper slip index, from which this database was created, is owned by The Institute of Heraldic and Genealogical Studies, Canterbury, England. Description: This is a collection of baptism entries from the Greater London area in England, between 1780 and 1837. These parish christening and baptismal registrations (with some birth dates recorded) cover at least 22 parishes in London and Middlesex, around 27 other parishes, and there are many other miscellaneous entries. They usually give the name of the child and parentage, the parish of baptism and the date. Learn more... In the IGI: JOSIAS JAGO Event(s): Birth: Christening: 17 JUN 1798, Talland, Cornwall, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOSIAS JAGO Mother: PETERNELL Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: Sheet: C053261 1617 - 1837 0916986 Film 6904029 Film 00 Items 1-4 Transcripts of parish registers and Bishop's transcripts, 1617-1837 Church of England. Parish Church of Talland (Cornwall) Item 5 Transcripts of parish registers 1661-1837 and Bishop's transcripts, 1611-1779 Church of England. Parish Church of Tregony (Cornwall) JOSIAS JAGO Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: PETERNELL HIGGENS Marriage: 16 MAY 1797, Talland, Cornwall, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: Sheet: M053261 1617 - 1837 0916986 Film 6904768 Film 00 Could these be Josias' parents?? -- _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ /=============================================================================/ ID: <38> Status: D Name: \Grace Rundle\ Gender: F Gen: -6 Position: 0100101 Born: Probably c1800, possibly in Scotland? [Greville] Married: ??? 1806 ??? [Pallets marriage index] Died: ??? Partner: <37> Child: <35> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: 1841 Scotland Census Record Civil parish: Gorbals County: Lanarkshire Address: 167 Main St Gorbals Occupation: Excis Officer Parish Number: 644/2 ED: 70 Page: 13 Name MF Age Occupation EstBYear Birthplace Civil Parish County Parish Number Jonas Jago M 45 Excis Officer abt 1796 England Gorbals Lanarkshire 644/2 Mrs Jago F 45 abt 1796 England Gorbals Lanarkshire 644/2 Edwin Jago M 15 Shop Boy abt 1826 England Gorbals Lanarkshire 644/2 Alfred Jago M 14 Clerk abt 1827 England Gorbals Lanarkshire 644/2 John Jago M 11 abt 1830 England Gorbals Lanarkshire 644/2 Jonas Jago Jr M 9 abt 1832 England Gorbals Lanarkshire 644/2 Elizabeth Jago F 5 abt 1836 England Gorbals Lanarkshire 644/2 Sidney Jago M 2 abt 1839 Lanarkshire, Scotland Gorbals Lanarkshire 644/2 Here, in 1841, Mrs Jago is likely to be Grace. Pallots marriage index (ancestry.co.uk) records a marriage of a Grace Rundle with a Thos. Jago in 1806, in Jacobstow Cornwall. This is doubtful to be Josias <37> and Grace <38>, due to the proximity to their most probable birth period of c.1800, but you never know. It may alternately be connected to earlier Jago relations of Josias and/or Grace. /=============================================================================/ ID: <39> Status: D Name: \John Marshall Knapton\ (Harry Knaptons father) (Y-11) Gender: M Gen: -4 Position: 01100 Born: 24/04/1845, Angel Yards, Mercy Street, Leeds, Yorkshire [birth cert] Married: 11/08/1866 to Frances Bennett in Leeds [Hugh Knapton] 15/12/1875 to Emma Ross in Bradford register office [marriage cert] Died: 28/12/1914, Cavendish Square, Beckbottom [death cert] Buried 28 Dec 1914 @ Farsley Baptist, at 69 [HK] Partner(1): Frances Bennett: <77> Partner(2): Emma Ross: <40> Child: Francis Gladstone Knapton <78> (by Frances Bennett) Child: Harry Knapton et al <30> (by Emma Ross) Father: <54> Mother: <55> Sibling: (see list) \William Marshall Knapton:c1840\ In 1841: Aged 1 (so born c1840); born in Yorkshire; living at Angel Yard, Leeds, Yorkshire [1841C] In 1851: Aged 11 (so born c1840); born in Yorkshire; living in 11 Charley Street, Leeds, attending school [1851C] According to [HK}: (Y-11, Y-68), born 4q1840 LEEDS? or 1q1841 LEEDS? [HK] \Susannah Knapton:c1842\ In 1851: Aged 9 (so born c1842); born in Yorkshire; living in 11 Charley Street, Leeds, attending school [1851C] According to [HK}: (Y-11), born 1q1842 LEEDS, m'd \Joseph FLEMING:c1842\, 26Mar1864 LeedsStP © [HK] \Mark Knapton:c1846\ In 1851: Aged 5 (so born c1846); born in Yorkshire; living in 11 Charley Street, Leeds [1851C] \Mary Knapton:c1850\ In 1851: Aged 1 (so born c1850); born in Yorkshire; living in 11 Charley Street, Leeds [1851C] \Thomas Marshall Knapton:1847\, born 22/10/1847, 2 Angel Yard, Mercy Street, Leeds [birth cert] Married Ruth ____, age 41 in 1891 (born Yorkshire Pudsey) [1891C] Married \Ruth Davy:c1850\, age 41 in 1891 (born Yorkshire Pudsey), so born c1850 [HK] Married 25/12/1869 at Leeds St Peters [HK] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Leeds 1847 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Leeds West in the County of York No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registar 343 Twenty second Thomas Marshall Boy John Hannah Woollen The mark of (x) Fifteenth E.Autey of October 1847 Knapton Knapton Spinner Hannah Knapton of November Registrar 2, Angel Yard, formerly Mother 1847 Mercy Street, Leeds Wilson 2, Angel Yard Mercy Street, Leeds ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Children \George Knapton:c1873\, age 18 in 1891 (Moulders appren, born Yorkshire Pudsey), so born c1873 [HK, 1891C] (born 3q1872 Bradford, died 3q1937 Filey) [HK] \Susanna Knapton:c1875\, age 16 in 1891 (Worsted Twister, born Yorkshire Pudsey), so born c1875 [HK, 1891C] - Additional siblings according to Hugh Knapton [HK]: \Tom Knapton:c1856\ (Y-11, Y-13), a 24 year old boiler smith in 1881 [HK, 1881C] born Bramley 2q1856 HUNSLET? [HK] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Hunslet 1856 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Kirkstall in the County of York No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 253 Twentysecond April 1856 Tom Boy John Knapton Hannah Knapton Clothier X The mark of Twentyfifth James Rawson Gamble Hill Bramley formerly Wilson Hannah Knapton April 1856 Registrar Mother Gamble Hill Bramley ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- He married Martha ____, aged 36 in 1891, born Pudsey, Yorkshire. [1891C] married 2q1881 LEEDS [HK] to \Martha Murgatroyd:c1856\ [freebmd] (Marriage GRO index: Jun 1881, Tom Knapton, Leeds, 9b/581(681?) [1837online, freebmd]) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1881 Marriage solumnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of Leeds in the County of York No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 164 June 22th 1881 Tom Knapton 25 Bachelor Boiler Maker Stanningley John Knapton Mule Spinner Martha Murgatroyd 27 Spinster -- Stanningley James Murgatroyd Mechanic Married in the Parish Church of according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church by -- or after Banns by me (sig) This Marriage in the H.S.Butler was solumnized (sig) Tom Knapton Presence (sig) Frederick Gaunt between us (sig) Martha Murgatroyd of us (sig) Alice (Hill?) Gaunt ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- He and Martha had children \Rowland M Knapton:c1882\, 9 in 1891, born Farsley, Yorkshire (so born c1882) [1891C] \Esther Ann Knapton:c1884\, 7 in 1891, born Farsley, Yorkshire (so born c1884) [1891C] \Granville M Knapton:c1888\, 3 in 1891, born Farsley, Yorkshire (so born c1888) [1891C] \Violetta Knapton:c1890\, 1 in 1891, born Farsley, Yorkshire (so born c1890) [1891C] \Wilson Knapton:1853\ (male) (Y-11, Y-13), born 10/12/1853 Hunslet [HK, certified] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Hunslet 1854 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Wortley in the County of York No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 282 Tenth December 1853 Wilson Boy John Knapton Hannah Knapton Woollen Spinner X The mark of Third January 1854 Robert Lester(?) Moor Side, Armley formerly Wilson Hannah Knapton Armstrong Mother Registrar Moor Side, _ramley [Bramley?] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lived at William Street, Bramley in 1881 [HK, 1881C] 34 Lower Church Street, Chepstow in 1891 [HK] He was born Armley, York, England according to the 1881 census, and was an Angle Ironsmith (Blk) [1881C] M'd \Anne GLOVER:1874\ 13/09/1874,Leeds [HK, certified] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1874] Marriage solumnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of Leeds in the County of [...] No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession ...tember 13 1874 Wilson Knapton 20 Bachelor Boiler Maker Stanningley John Knapton [...] Ann Glover 24 Spinster Stanningley John Glover [...] [Married] in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church by -- or after Bann[es] [by me] (sig) F.J.Wood [...] [This Marri]age in the [was solumn]ized (sig) Wilson Knapton Presence (sig) William Glover [between u]s (sig) Ann Glover of us (sig) Caroline Glover ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anne _____ is in the 1881 census with Wilson, age 31 in 1881, born Pudsey, York, England [1881C] Anne Glover born c1850 Pudsey (31 in 1881 [HK, 1881C], 41 in 1891 [HK], 51 in 1901 [HK]) died 3q1933 CHEPSTOW [HK] Her marriage with Wilson has witnesses William Glover and Caroline Glover - close relations? siblings? [HK, certified] Anne's father was John Glover [HK, certified] Daughter Mary Glover (by a previous partner) [HK] aged 12 in 1881, so born c1869 [HK, 1881C] They lived at William St, Bramley, York, England Died age 69 3q1923 chepstow [HK] They had children \Glover Knapton:c1875\ {male} (Y-13, Y248), age 5 in 1881 (William St., BRAMLEY) born Stanningley, York, England [HK, 1881C] age 15 in 1891 (William St., BRAMLEY, still with parents, apprentice angle iron grinder) [HK] age 25 in 1901 (6 St Ann Street, CHEPSTOW) [HK] Born 2q1875, Stanningly. [HK] Married \Nellie ____:c1878\ (born c1878, married. 1q1899 CHEPSTOW) [HK] Died 3q1953, CHEPSTOW. [HK] Children \Elsie Knapton:c1899\ (age 1 in 1901, born 3q 1899 CHEPSTOW, M'd Jack Owens 3q 1925 HUDDERSFIELD) [HK] \Norman Dudley Knapton:c1901\ (age 1m in 1901, born 2q 1901 CHEPSTOW, M'd \____ BARKER:c1901\ 31 Jan 1933 Chepstow) [HK] \George Wilson Knapton:1903\ (\Bill Knapton:1903\) (born 28 Apr 1903 CHEPSTOW) [HK] \John Stanley Knapton:c1906\ (born 2q 1906 CHEPSTOW, M'd \Helena Fielding:c1906\ 3q 1927 NEWPORT) [HK] \Nelly I. Knapton:c1910\ (born 3q 1910 CHEPSTOW, Died 2q1921 CHEPSTOW) [HK] \Vernon S. Knapton:c1912\ (born 4q 1912 CHEPSTOW, Died 1q1913 CHEPSTOW) [HK] \Cyril Knapton:c1914\ (born 4q 1914 CHEPSTOW, M'd \Suzie Stephens:c1914\ 3q 1939 PORTSMOUTH) [HK] \Esther Ann Knapton:c1880\ (Y-13), age 2 in 1881, born Stanningley, York, England [HK, 1881C] born 1q 1880 Stanningley BRAMLEY [HK] died 3q1888 CHEPSTOW [HK] \Windsey Knapton:1884\ (Y-13), born 17 Aug 1884 Stockton STOCKTON [HK, certified] died 3q1884 STOCKTON [HK] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Stockton 1884 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Stockton in the County of Durham No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 9 Seventeenth August 1884 Windsey Boy Wilson Knapton Ann Knapton Boiler Maker W Knapton Twenty Third John Pearson 19 Herbert Street formerly Glover Father August 1884 Registrar Stockton 19 Herbert Street Stockton ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- \Windsor Knapton:1887\ (Y-13, C-17), 3 in 1891 (William Street, Bramley) [HK], 13 in 1901 (rivetter's labourer, 34 Lower Church Street, Chepstow) [HK] born 11 Jun 1887 Stockton STOCKTON [HK, certified] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Stockton 1887 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Stockton in the County of Durham No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 53 Eleventh June 1887 Windsor Boy Wilson Knapton Ann Knapton General Laborer X The mark of Nineteenth John Pearson 3 Bay Street Stockton formerly Glover Ann Knapton July 1887 Registrar Mother 3 Bay Street Stockton ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- m'd \Edith Emily Tudor:c1887\ (born 1887 Wales?) [HK] Married on 26 Jul 1908 Chepstow (3q 1908 CHEPSTOW) [HK, certified] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1908 Marriage solumnized at the parish church in the parish of Chepstow in the County of Monmouth No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 81 July the Twenty sixth Windsor Knapton 21 Bachelor Smith's hammerman 32 Lower Church Street Wilson Knapton Angle Iron Smith 1908 Edith Emily Tudor 24 Spinster 32 Lower Church Street William Ward Tudor Railway fa__man Married in the parish church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established church after banns by me (sig) G.R.Jenkins This Marriage in the was solumnized (sig) Windsor Knapton Presence (sig) Allan William Tudor between us (sig) Edith Emily Tudor of us (sig) Alice Wright(?) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- died 2q1964 EAST GLAM. (Y-13) or 2q1964 CHEPSTOW (C-17) [HK] Her marriage with Windsor has witness \Allan William Tudor\ - close relation? sibling? [HK, certified] Edith's father was \William Ward Tudor\ [HK, certified] Children: \Allan Windsor Owen Knapton:1909\ (C-17), born 12 Dec 1909 NEWPORT, married \____ COUTANCHE:c1909\ 4q 1928 CARDIFF [HK] \Albert Charles Knapton:c1914\ (C-17), born 4q 1914 CHEPSTOW, m'd ____ KNAPTON nee COUTANCHE 1q 1974 CARDIFF [HK] \Edith Elizabeth Knapton:c1916\ (C-17), born 1q 1916 CHEPSTOW, m'd \____ TOBIN:c1916\ 2q 1935 CARDIFF [HK] \Queenie M. Knapton:c1918\ (C-17), born 4q 1918 CHEPSTOW, m'd \____ CLIFFORD:c1918\ 4q 1940 NEWPORT [HK] Is the COUTANCHE that Allan and Albert married the same one - did she marry Allan in 1928, then Allan die and she married Albert in 1974, such that we infer Allan died between 1928 and 1974? \Elspeth Raymond Knapton:c1890\ (Y-13), born 1q 1890 CHEPSTOW, died 4q1890 CHEPSTOW [HK] \Madeline Rose H. Knapton:c1892\ (Y-13), 1q 1892 CHEPSTOW, died 1q1892 CHEPSTOW [HK] \Maud Edith Knapton:c1894\ (Y-13), age 6 in 1901, born 3q 1894 CHEPSTOW, m'd \____ TYRELL:c1894\ 2q1913 CHEPSTOW [HK] \Mary Knapton:c1857\ (Mary Hannah Knapton? Mary A Knapton?) Must have died aged about 6 months old. births 2q1857 hunslet (Jun 1857, Mary Alice Knapton, Hunslet, 9b/219) (#1) [HK] deaths mary 4q1857 leeds (Dec 1857, Mary Knapton, Leeds, 9b/241) (#1) [HK] mary alice 2q1861 leeds (buried leeds becket street cemetary in 1861 (Unrelated?) [HK] (Jun 1861, Mary Alice Knapton, Leeds, 9b/214) \Mary Ann Knapton:c1858\ births 3q1858 hunslet (Sep 1858, Mary Ann Knapton, Hunslet, 9b/206) (Ordered 27/02/2004, received 13/03/2004) [HK] Mary Ann Knapton; born 11/08/1858, Gamble Hill, Bramley; father is John Knapton, a Clother; mother is Hannah Knapton (Wilson); Informant to birth is the mother, living at Gamble Hill, Bramley; registered 19/08/1858; registar is James [birth cert] deaths mary ann d 3q1877 bramley age 19 (Sep 1877, Mary Ann Knapton, 19, Bramley, 9b/203) [HK] Died 20/08/1877, age 19, according to http://www.calverley.info/fars_bap_2.htm \James Knapton:c1859\ An earlier James Knapton, who died 2 months old. [HK] births 4q1859 hunslet (Dec 1859, James Knapton, Hunslet, 9b/284) (#1) (Ordered 27/02/2004, received 13/03/2004) [HK] NOT the son of John Knapton and Hannah Wilson. [cert] deaths 2q1859 (Unrelated?) [HK] 4q1859 hunslet cemetary son of john+hannah buried 27/nov/1859 (2 months old) [HK] (Dec 1859, James Knapton, Hunslet, 9b/200) (#1) \James Knapton:c1860\ (Y-11), a 20yr old labourer in an iron foundry in 1881 [HK, 1881C], born 3q1860 HUNSLET (Sep 1860, James Knapton, Hunslet, 9b/225) ? [HK] 20 in 1881 [HK, 1881C], 30 in 1891, born Bramley [HK, 1891C] 1891 census: May have married a Mary ____, a Cotton Twister, 25 in 1891, born Hunslet, Yorkshire. [1891C] (Mary definitely married one of Hannah Wilsons <55> sons. [1891C]) A marriage of James Knapton is recorded in 2q1888 LEEDS [HK] to \Mary Ann Bateson\ [freebmd]. (Marriage GRO index: Jun 1888, James Knapton, Leeds, 9b/683 [1837online, freebmd]) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1888 Marriage solumnized at The Church of St Johns in the Parish of St Johns Leeds in the County of York No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 451 June 24th 1888 James Knapton 27 Bachelor Labourer 12 Mernon St John Knapton (dead) Mule Spinner Mary Ann Bateson 22 Spinster -- 12 Mernon St William Bateson Puddler Married in the Church of St Johns Leeds according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church by -- or after Banns by me (sig) This Marriage in the S.M.Taylor (curate) was solumnized (sig) James Knapton Presence (sig) James Brown between us (sig) Mary Ann Bateson of us (sig) John Richard Shaw ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mary had a daughter, \Jane Ann Bateson:c1888\, aged 3 in 1891, so born c1888; born Bramley, Yorkshire. [1891C] James, Mary and Jane lived with Hannah Knapton <55> at 3 Fern Terrace in 1891. [1891C] william m k marr 30jan1865 BORN C.1841 - Notes: GRO birth index: Quarter: Jun 1845 Name: John Marshall Knapton Mothers maiden name: -- District: Leeds Vol/Page: XXIII/495 (#1) Researched: 09/08/2003, Harris Library, Preston Certificate: Ordered 27/10/2003. Received 06/11/2003. #1 : Handwritten entries, and therefore subject to handwriting interpretation. From Greville: Birth Certificate Reference: West/18/376 John Knaptons <39> birth certificate: ---- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Leeds 1845 BIRTH in the Sub-district of West Leeds in the County of York No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registar 375 Twenty fourth John Marshall Boy John Hannah Spinner The mark of (x) Ninth of {unreadable} of April 1845 Knapton Knapton John Knapton May 1845 Angel Yards, formerly Father Mercy Street Wilson Angel Yards Mercy Street ---- 1837online.com marriage search (30/10/2003) : Dec 1875 KNA/1 KNAPTON, John Marshall, 'Bradford, Y.', 9b/400 ROS/2 ROSS, Emma, 'Bradford, Y.', 9b/400 GRO marriage index: Quarter: Dec 1875 Grooms Name: John Marshall Knapton <39> Brides Name: Emma Ross <40> District: Bradford, Y. Vol/Page: 9b/400 Researched: 30/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 31/10/2003. Received 07/11/2003. Marriage of John Knapton <39> and Emma Ross <40> : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1875 Marriage solumnized at the Register Office in the District of Bradford in the County of York No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 129 Fifteenth John Marshall Knapton 30 years Widower Tobacconist Town Street, Stanningley John Marshall Knapton Mule Spinner December 1875 Emma Ross 27 years Spinster Grocer Beck Bottom, Farsley Isaac Ross (deceased) Grocer Married in the Register Office by Certificate before me (sig) Thomas Graither, Registrar This Marriage in the (sig) John Darlington, Superintendant Registrar was solumnized (sig) John M. Knapton Presence (sig) William Wharfen (Wharten?) between us (sig) Emma Ross of us (sig) Elijah Grimshaw ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1837online.com death search (30/10/2003) : Dec 1914 KNA/1 KNAPTON, John M., 69, N.Bierley, 9b/94 GRO death index: Quarter: Dec 1914 Name: John M. Knapton <39> Age/DOB: 69 District: N.Bierley Vol/Page: 9b/94 Researched: 30/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 31/10/2003 ; Received 07/11/2003. Death of John Knapton <39> : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT North Bierley 1914 DEATH in the Sub-district of Calverley in the County of Yorks ( W.R.) No. When/where Name Sex Age Occupation Cause of death Informant When reg. Registrar 451 Twenty eighth December 1914 John Male 69 Grocer Malignant Disease of Harry Knapton Twenty ninth Nora L. Nicholson Cavendish Square Beckbottom Marshall years Rectum Son December 1914 Registrar Farsley UD Knapton Certified by Present at the Death J. Hepburn Aitken MB Cavendish Beck Bottom Farsley {{ There is also a note on the far right, after the signature of the registrar, appearing to say "Twenty five M. & M.", whatever that may mean. }} ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Birth of Mary Ann Knapton (3q1858) <<39>> : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Hunslet 1858 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Kirkstall in the County of York No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 218 Eleventh August 1858 Mary Ann Girl John Knapton Hannah Knapton Clother X The mark of Nineteenth August James Rawson Gamble Hill, Bramley formerly Wilson Hannah Knapton 1858 Registrar Mother Gamble Hill Bramley ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Knapton <40> is a widower and a tobacconist in 1871 (New Road Bramley) according to Hugh Knapton. 1851 census: Parish: Leeds Eccl district: Saint Philip Borough: Leeds Town: Leeds Address: 11 Charley Street County/Island: Yorkshire Source information: HO107/2321 Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: West Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 2h Folio: 1133 Page: 26 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 110 GSU Number: 87549-87552 Name MF Mar Age Relationship Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Napton M Mar 36 Head Joiner Yorkshire abt 1815 John Knapton <54> Hannah Napton F Mar 31 Wife Yorkshire abt 1820 Hannah Wilson <55> William Napton M 11 Son Scholar Yorkshire abt 1840 William Knapton <<39>> Susanah Napton F 9 Daughter Scholar Yorkshire abt 1842 Susannah Knapton <<39>> John Napton M 6 Son Scholar Yorkshire abt 1845 John Marshall Knapton <39> Mark Napton M 5 Son Yorkshire abt 1846 Mary Napton F 1 Daughter Yorkshire abt 1850 1871 census on John M. Knapton: Township: Bramley Municipal Borough: Leeds Municipal Ward: Bramley Parliamentary Boro: Leeds Town: Bramley Village: Stanningley Local Board: Leeds Town Council Ecclesiastical District: St Thomas Stanningley Address: New Row Name Rel. M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace John M Knapton Head Widr 24 Tobacco Hoigar Dealer York Leeds Source Information: PRO reference: RG10/4526 Registration district: Bramley Sub-registration district: Bramley ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Folio: 17 Page: 27 Household schedule number: 139 1881 census on John M. Knapton: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability John M. KNAPTON Head M Male 35 Leeds, York, England Grocer Emma KNAPTON Wife M Female 32 Farsley, York, England Grocer Wife Maria KNAPTON Daur Female 4 Farsley, York, England Lizzie KNAPTON Daur Female 2 Farsley, York, England Source Information: Dwelling Beckbottom Census Place Calverley Cum Farsley, York, England Family History Library Film 1342073 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4480 / 71 Page Number 28 1881 census on Wilson Knapton: Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Wilson KNAPTON Head M Male 27 Armley, York, England Angle Ironsmith (Blk) Anne KNAPTON Wife M Female 31 Pudsey, York, England Mary GLOVER Step Daur Female 12 Pudsey, York, England Scholar Glover KNAPTON Son Male 5 Stanningley, York, England Scholar Esther A. KNAPTON Daur Male 2 Stanningley, York, England Source Information: Dwelling William St Census Place Bramley In Bramley, York, England Family History Library Film 1342078 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4500 / 105 Page Number 61 1891 census: Knapton, John M Relationship: Head County: Yorkshire Age: 45 Civil Parish: Calverley with Farsley Gender: Male ED: 4 Where Born: Yorkshire, Leeds Eccl. Parish: Farsley St Johns Piece: RG12/3654 Town: Calverley Folio: 67 Page: 23 Location: Grocers shop, Cavendish St(?), Beckbottom Civil parish: Calverley Rural district: Farsley Parliamentary borough: Pudsey Ecclesiastical parish: St Johns, Farsley John M Knapton, Head, 45, Grocer(?), born Yorkshire Leeds Emma Knapton, Wife, 42, Assisting husband, born Yorkshire Farsley Maria Knapton, Daur, 14, Knotter(?) in Woollen Mill, born Yorkshire Farsley Lizzie Knapton, Daur, 12, Scholar, born Yorkshire Farsley Ethel Knapton, Daur, 9, Scholar, born Yorkshire Farsley Harry Knapton, Son, 6, Scholar, born Yorkshire Farsley Florence Knapton, Daur, 5, Scholar, born Yorkshire Farsley Ross Knapton, Son, 2, -, born Yorkshire Farsley 1901 census: PRO Reference RG Number, Series RG13 Piece 4186 Folio 73 Page 26 Schedule Number 187 Location: Address 7 Cavendish Sq Beckbottom Civil Parish Farsley Rural District -- Town or Village or Hamlet -- Parliamentary Borough or Division Pudsey Ecclesiastical Parish St Johns Administrative County Yorkshire W R County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District -- Ward of Municipal Borough or Urban District -- John M Knapton, 54, Grocer And Beerseller Shopkeeper (Own Account working at home), born Yorks Leeds Emma Knapton, 52, occupation "Pub", born Yorks Farsley Gladstone Knapton, 33, Iron Fettler In Foundry, born Yorks Stanningley Maria Knapton, 24, Woollen Mender, born Yorks Farsley Lizzie Knapton, 22, Woollen Mender, born Yorks Farsley Ethel Knapton, 19, Woollen Mender, born Yorks Farsley Harry Knapton, 16, Mechanical Engineers Apprentice, born Yorks Farsley Ross Knapton, 12, born Yorks Farsley Florence Knapton, 15, born Yorks Farsley 1911 Census - John Marshall Knapton and children Maria, Lizzie, Ethel, Harry, Florence, Ross --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN26663 RG78PN1537 RD497 SD8 ED7 SN251 Schedule Number: 251 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Yorkshire West Riding District: North Bierley Subdistrict: Calverley Enumeration District: 7 Parish: Farsley -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Marshall Knapton Head M 65 Widower 6 6 0 Licensed Grocer own be Home Leeds Yorkshire c1846 <39> Maria Knapton Daughter F 34 Single Wollen Mender Manufacturing Employee Farsley county York c1877 <<30>> Lizzie Knapton Daughter F 32 Single at home Farsley county York c1879 <<30>> Ethel Knapton Daughter F 29 Single Wollen Mender Manufacturing Employee Farsley county York c1882 <<30>> Harry Knapton Son M 26 Single Draughtman Engineering Employee Farsley county York c1885 <30> Florence Knapton Daughter F 25 Single Home Farsley county York c1886 <<30>> Ross Knapton Son M 22 Single Leather Dealer own be Farsley county York c1889 <<30>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 5 Signature (sig) John Marshall Knapton Postal Address Beck Bottom, Farsley --------------------------------------------------------- From Greville (07/08/2003): The Certificate for John Marshall Knapton shows That he was born at Angel Yard, Mercy Street (that will be West Leeds) And his father was John Knapton (a Spinner) and his mother Hannah Knapton, formerly Wilson. This confirms the information I had found about John and Hannah Knapton in the 1881 Census When Grandson Francis (Gladstone) aged 13 was at their house in Bramley. That also confirms that John Marshall had (at least) two brothers. From Greville (07/08/2003): With regards to Gladstone - his is the Certificate that the Registrar did not send. Reason being that the name of his mother did not correspond to the one (Emma) that was on my application. This lends to confirm that he was born before John & Emma married. I am concluding that John was his father - but was John married before? I rather think he may have been - more detective work. I'll keep you posted. The two brothers of John Marshall Knapton are recorded here in the 1881 census as sons of Hannah Wilson <55> and John Knapton <54> : 1881 census: Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability John KNAPTON Head M Male 67 Leeds, York, England Tobacconist Hannah KNAPTON Wife M Female 60 Hunslet, York, England Tom KNAPTON Son U Male 24 Bramley, York, England Boiler Smith James KNAPTON Son U Male 20 Bramley, York, England Labourer Iron Foundry Francis G. KNAPTON G Son Male 13 Stanningley, York, England (()) Source Information: Dwelling New Row Census Place Bramley In Bramley, York, England Family History Library Film 1342078 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4500 / 91 Page Number 34 1841 census on William Knapton: Civil parish: Leeds Town Hundred: Leeds Borough County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Angel Yard Source information: HO107/1349/10 Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: Leeds West ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Folio: 24 Page: 3 Line number: 11 GSU Number: 464292 Name MF Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Knapton M 25-29 Dyer Y abt 1814 John Knapton <54> Hannah Knapton F 20-24 Y abt 1819 Hannah Wilson <55> William Knapton M 1 Y abt 1840 1871 census on James, Mary, Tom and Francis G Knapton: Township: Bramley Municipal Borough: Leeds Municipal Ward: Bramley Parliamentary Boro: Leeds Town: Bramley Village: Stanningley Local Board: Leeds Town Council Ecclesiastical District: St Thomas, Stanningley Address: Fowler's Buildings [on New Row - which is also mentioned three households up - ?] Name Rel. M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace John Knapton Head Mar 58 Woollen Spinner Yorkshire Leeds Hannah Knapton Wife Mar 51 Yorkshire Hunslet Wilson Knapton Son Unm 17 Boiler Maker Yorkshire Armley Tom Knapton Son 14 Boiler Maker Yorkshire Bramley Mary A Knapton Daughter 12 Worsted Piecer Yorkshire Bramley James Knapton Son 10 Fiffit Heater Yorkshire Bramley Francis G Knapton Nephew 3 Scholar Yorkshire Stanningley Source information PRO Reference: RG10/4526 Registration district: Bramley Sub-registration district: Bramley ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Folio: 17 Page: 28 Household schedule number: 150 Civil parish: Bramley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England 1891 census on James Knapton <<39>>, Hannah Knapton <55> and Gladstone Knapton <78> : 1891 census: RG12/3673 Civil Parish: Leeds Municipal Borough: Leeds Municipal Ward: Bramley Urban Sanitary District: Leeds Parliamentary Borough/Division: Leeds Ecclesiastical Parish/District: St. Thomas Address: 3 Fern Terrace Hannah Knapton Head Wid 70 Yorkshire Hunslet James Knapton Son M 30 Labourer in Iron Foundry Yorkshire Bramley Mary [A? G? N? M? W?] Knapton Daur in law M 25 Cotton Twister Yorkshire Hunslet Jane Ann(?) Batson Daur of above 3 Yorkshire Bramley Gladstone Knapton Grandson S 23 Labourer in Iron Foundry Yorkshire Pudsey 1891 census on Tom Knapton <<39>> : 1891 census: Civil parish: Calverley with Farsley Urban Sanitary District: Farsley Village: Farsley Parliamentary Division: Pudsey Ecclesiastical Parish/District: St. Johns Address: 7 Arthur Street Tom Knapton Head M 34 Angle axis(?) Smith(?) Asdes(?) Wks(?) Yorkshire Bramley Martha Knapton Wife M 36 Yorkshire Pudsey Rowland M Knapton Son 9 Scholar Yorkshire Farsley Esther Ann Knapton Daur 7 Scholar Yorkshire Farsley Granville M Knapton Son 3 Yorkshire Farsley Violetta [J? L? I?] Knapton Daur 1 Yorkshire Farsley GRO birth index: Quarter: Dec 1847 Name: Thomas Marshall Knapton <<39>> Mothers maiden name: -- District: Leeds Vol/Page: XXIII/430 (#1) Researched: 14/01/2004, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 14/01/2004; Received 23/01/2004 #1 : Handwritten entries, and therefore subject to handwriting interpretation. Note that this Thomas Marshall Knapton *MAY NOT* be the same Tom Knapton in the census - the Thomas in the certificate would be 10 years older, aged 34 in 1881 and 44 in 1891. This Thomas however definitely *IS* John Marshall Knaptons <39> brother, as his parents are listed as John and Hannah Knapton (Wilson). 1891 census on Thomas M. Knapton: RG12/3658 Admin. County: York Civil Parish: Pudsey Town: Pudsey Eccl. Parish: St Pauls Address: 32 ___________ Household: Thomas M. Knapton Head M 43 Blacksmith Stre____ Yorkshire Leeds Ruth Knapton Wife M 41 Yorkshire Pudsey George Knapton Son S 18 Moulders appren Yorkshire Pudsey Susanna Knapton Daur S 16 Worsted Twister Yorkshire Pudsey Hugh Knapton: Thomas Marshall Knapton, 22, bachelor, striker, married Ruth Davy, 20, spinster, at Leeds St Peters on 25 Dec 1869. Thomas’s father was John Knapton, mule spinner of Stanningley. GRO marriage index: Quarter: Dec 1869 Grooms Name: Thomas Marshall Knapton <<39>> Brides Name: Ruth Davy <<39>> District: Leeds Vol/Page: 9b/581 Researched: 05/01/2004, 1837online.com Certificate: Not ordered http://www.calverley.info/cen_pud_1901_ed17.htm Surname Fore Name Age Folio KNAPTON Thomas M 53 113b KNAPTON Ruth 51 113b KNAPTON Susannah 26 113b /1891 census on Thomas M. Knapton: /RG12/3683 /Admin. County: Leeds /Municipal Borough: Leeds /Municipal Ward: Leeds /Urban Sanitary District: Leeds /Town: Leeds /Parliamentary borough/division: South Leeds /Eccl. Parish: Christ Church /Address: 15 Flourmill [Glourmill?] Yard, top of Norfolk St. / William M Knapton Head M 51 Stationary Engine Driver Yorkshire Leeds / Mary Knapton Wife M 46 Yorkshire Leeds / John W. Knapton Son S 18 Yorkshire Leeds / Wilson Knapton Son S 16 Millright Yorkshire Leeds / Sam Knapton Son 15 Pork butcher Yorkshire Holbeck / Edith Knapton Dau 8 Scholar Yorkshire Holbeck / Samuel P. Carter Son-in-law M 23 Bottle mould fitter Lancashire Manchester / Hannah M. Carter Dau M 23 Yorkshire Holbeck / Eliza Carter Grand-dau 20 [10?] Mo Durham Seaham Harbour / Edith Carter Grand-dau 7 Mo Yorkshire Leeds ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.calverley.info/fars_bap.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Page Surname Name Died Age Born Relationship Relation Comments 28 Knapton Emma 1903 01 23 54 Wife of John 2nd Wife 28 Knapton Frances 1867 07 11 21 Wife of John 28 Knapton John Marshall 1914 12 28 69 Husband of Frances & Emma 28 Knapton Maria 1946 03 25 Daughter of John Eldset Daughter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.calverley.info/fars_bap_2.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Page Surname Name Died Age Born Relationship Relation Comments 111 Knapton Mary Ann 1877 08 20 19 Daughter of John & Hannah Knapton ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1837online.com (22/05/204) : Jun 1881 KNA/1 KNAPTON, Tom, Leeds, 9b/581(681?) Jun 1888 KNA/1 KNAPTON, James, Leeds, 9b/683 FreeBMD (22/05/2004) : Marriages Jun 1881 KNAPTON Tom Leeds 9b 581 KITSON Charlotte Leeds 9b 581 KNAPTON Tom Leeds 9b 581 MURGATROYD Martha Leeds 9b 581 Oddy Mary Smith Leeds 9b 581 WALSHAW John Leeds 9b 581 FreeBMD (22/05/2004) : Marriages Jun 1888 Knapton James Leeds 9b 683 BATESON Mary Ann Leeds 9b 683 /=============================================================================/ ID: <40> Status: D Name: \Emma Ross\ (Harry Knaptons mother) Gender: F Gen: -4 Position: 01101 Born: 04/06/1848; born Farsley, Yorkshire [birth cert] Married: 15/12/1875, Bradford [marriage cert] Died: 23/01/1903 (8:45pm) [bible] Buried 23 Jan 1903 @ Farsley Baptist, at 54 [HK] Partner: <39> Child: <30> Father: <43> Mother: <79> Sibling: \Sarah Ann Ross:1829\, 1829-1912(?) ; born 25/05/1829 (at night) [bible]; died in or after 1912 In 1841: Aged 13 (so born c1828); born Yorkshire; living at Beckbottom, Calverley, Yorkshire [1841C] \Martha Ross:1831\, 1831-????; born 29/01/1831 (6 at night) [bible] In 1841: Aged 11 (so born c1830); born Yorkshire; living at Beckbottom, Calverley, Yorkshire [1841C] \Ann Ross:1833\, 1833-????; born 20/11/1833 [bible] In 1841: Aged 8 (so born c1833); born Yorkshire; living at Beckbottom, Calverley, Yorkshire [1841C] In 1851: Aged 17 in 1851 (so born c1834), living in Farsley, Yorkshire; occupation 'Burler'? [1851C] \Joseph Ross:1836:1837\, 1836-1837; born 18/04/1836 (4 at night) [bible]; died 28/03/1837 (11 months old) [bible]; probably twin of James [bible] \James Ross:1836:1837\, 1836-1837; born 18/04/1836 (4 at night) [bible]; died 29/03/1837 (11 months old) [bible]; probably twin to Joseph [bible] \Israel Ross:1838:1911\, 1838-1911; born 11/06/1838 [grev, bible], Farsley [grev, 1881C, 1891C], 11 at night [bible]; died 30/01/1911 [grev, bible] born c1839; died 13/01/1911 age 72 [http://www.calverley.info/fars_bap_2.htm] Born 11/06/1838, Farsley [grev] Died 30/01/1911, aged 72, occupation: engine man at iron forge [grev] Birth ref: 2q1838, Death ref: 1q1911 [grev] Family bible [karen] records an Isaac Ross, born 11/06/1838, 11 at night; died 30/01/1911 [bible] It looks likely that Isaac and Israel are one and the same person, that the name was confused at some stage in the bible (or Karen read it wrong, she said it was unclear). As for the slight discrepancy in the date of death, 30th and 13th are easily audibly confused, and there are two votes (including the death certificate) for the 30th. In 1841: Aged 3 (so born c1838); born Yorkshire; living at Beckbottom, Calverley, Yorkshire [1841C] In 1851: Aged 12 in 1851 (so born c1839), living in Farsley, Yorkshire; occupation 'Factory Boy' [1851C] In 1881: Lodger at 10 Club Row, Headingley Cum Burley, Yorkshire, aged 42, occupation Millwright [1881C] In 1891: Lodger at 61 Town Street, Horsforth, Yorkshire, single (wah?), aged 50 (wah?), occupation Engine Driver Stationary [1891C] Married \Mary Vautrey:c1839\ in Oct-Dec 1858 [freebmd, yorkshirebmd] at St Wilfrids, Calverley [yorkshirebmd] (Marriage references: Leeds CE127/H/416 [yorkshirebmd] / Dec 1858, Yorks, 9b/182 [freebmd] / Dec 1858, Bradford Yk, 9b/182 [GRO images on ancestry]) (Ordered marrage certificate 06/09/2007; Arrived 14/09/2007) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1858 Marriage solumnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of Calverley in the County of York No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 416 Dec 19 Israel Ross 21 Bachelor Slubber { Idle } Isaac Ross Slubber Mary Vautrey 21 Spinster { } Agur Vautrey Slubber Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me (sig) Alfred Brown MA Vicar This Marriage in the was solumnized (sig) Israel Ross Presence (sig) Levi Pratt between us (sig) Mary Vautrey of us (sig) Sarah Hawker ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- { Slubber - "A person who operated the machine used to prepare cotton for spinning." } Mary Vautrey was 42 in 1881, born Holmfirth, York, England [1881C], so born c1839. In 1881 lived at 52 Stansfield Row, Headingley cum Burley, Yorkshire; occupation Woollen Weaver [1881C] In 1891 she was 52, a Cloth Weaver, still at the same residence. Mary's father was \Agur Vautrey:1809:1873\, born 12/06/1809, died 1873 [KS] Mary's mother was \Jane ____:1814:1873\, born 1814, died 1873 [KS] Mary had siblings: \John Vautrey:c1837\ (born c1837) [KS] \Jonathan Vautrey:c1839\ (born c1839) [KS] From [KS] : Agur VAUTRY (John BAWTRY *, James, Gulielmus [William], Gulielmi [William], Gulielmi) was born 12 Jun 1809 in Honley, Yorkshire, England and was christened 16 Jul 1809 in Honley Chapel, Honley, Yorkshire, England. He died 1873 in Leeds, Yorkshire, England. Agur was counted in a census 1841 in Wood Bottom, Wooldale, Kirkburton. He was employed Wool Slubber 1841 in Kirkburton, Yorks. He resided 1841 in Wood Bottom, Wooldale, Kirkburton. He was counted in a census 1851 in Wortley, Leeds, Yorkshire, England. He was counted in a census 1861 in Kirkstall, Leeds, Yorkshire, England. He was employed wool slubber 1861 in Kirkstall, Leeds, Yorkshire, England. He was counted in a census 1871 in 18 St. Ann's Row, Kirkstall, Yorkshire. He was employed Watchman at Mill 1871 in Headingly Cum Burley, Yorkshire. BIRTH: Agur is a biblical name meaning "stranger," "gatherer together" Agur married Jane [VAUTRY] before 1838. Jane was born 1814 in Yorkshire (?) England. She died 1873 in Leeds, Yorkshire, England. Jane was counted in a census 1841 in Wood Bottom, Wooldale, Kirkburton. She resided 1841 in Wood Bottom, Wooldale, Kirkburton. She was counted in a census 1851 in Wortley, Leeds, Yorkshire, England. She was counted in a census 1871 in 18 St. Ann's Row, Kirkstall, Yorkshire. She was employed small shop keeper 1871 in Headingly Cum Burley, Yorkshire. They had the following children: 77 F i. Mary VAUTRY was born 1838 in Kirkburton, Yorkshire, England. Mary was counted in a census 1841 in Wood Bottom, Wooldale, Kirkburton. She resided 1841 in Wood Bottom, Wooldale, Kirkburton. She was counted in a census 1851 in Wortley, Leeds, Yorkshire, England. 78 M ii. John VAUTRY was born 1837 in Kirkburton, Yorkshire, England. John was counted in a census 1841 in Wood Bottom, Wooldale, Kirkburton. He resided 1841 in Wood Bottom, Wooldale, Kirkburton. He was counted in a census 1851 in Leeside. Yorkshire, England. RESIDENCE: In 1851, Living with uncle Agur Vautrey at Leeside, Yorkshire 79 M iii. Jonathan VAUTREY was born 1849 in Wortley, Leeds, Yorkshire, England. He died 1852 in Hunslet, Yorkshire. Jonathan was counted in a census 1851 in Wortley, Leeds, Yorkshire, England. Children of Israel and Mary: \John V Ross:c1860\, born c1860, Leeds, York, England [1881C] He is age 21 in 1881; born Leeds, York, England; a Boot Rivetter [1881C] John married \Louisa Wilkinson:c1860\ at St Mathias church, Burley, Yorkshire [yorkshirebmd] in Oct-Dec 1883 [yorkshirebmd, freebmd] (Marriage references: Leeds CE10/C/349 [yorkshirebmd] or Dec 1883, Leeds, 9b/562 [freebmd]) The FreeBMD marriage ref gives his name as John Vantry Ross - a mis-transcription of Vautrey? \Clara Ross:c1862\, born c1862, Kirkstall, York, England [1881C, 1891C] She is age 19 in 1881; born Kirkstall, York, England; a Woollen Weaver [1881C] Clara was a 29 year old Cloth Weaver, living with husband William Tordoff at 47 Stansfield Row, Burley, Yorkshire in 1891 [1891C] Clara married \William Henry Tordoff:c1861\ at St Mathias church, Burley, Yorkshire [yorkshirebmd] in July-September 1884 (Marriage references: Leeds CE10/C/404 [yorkshirebmd] or Sep 1884, Leeds 9b/493 [freebmd]) William was a 30 year old Boot Rivetter in 1891, born in Kirkstall, Yorkshire [1891C], so born c1861. Children: \Maurice Tordoff:c1886\, aged 5 in 1891, born Yorkshire Burley [1891C], so born c1886. \Kate Ross:c1865\, born c1865, Kirkstall, York, England [1881C, 1891C] She is age 16 in 1881; born Kirkstall, York, England; a "Mule Piecer (Tex)" [1881C] Kate was 26 in 1891, living with husband Tom Yates at 2 Stansfield Row, Burley, Yorkshire [1891C] Kate married \Tom Yates:c1860\ at St Peters in Leeds, Yorkshire in Oct-Dec 1883 [yorkshirebmd, freebmd] (Marriage references: Leeds CE46/95/14 [yorkshirebmd] or Dec 1883, Leeds, 9b/693 [freebmd]) Tom Yates was 31 in 1891, a Tanner, born Yorkshire Wicksley [1891C], so born c1860. Children: \Myra Yates:c1890\, daughter, aged 10 months in 1891, born Yorkshire Burley [1891C], so born c1890. \William Ross:c1868\, born c1868, Kirkstall, York, England [1881C, 1891C] He is age 13 in 1881; born Kirkstall, York, England; a Cloth Dresser [1881C] William was 23 in 1891, single, a Forgeman, still living with mother Mary at 52 Stansfield Row, Headingley cum Burley, Yorkshire. [1891C] Much, much more information on the Vautrey line from [KS] is available - contact me, find it on the private section of the website if you have access,or find it on the disk where you got this tree \Mary Ross:1840\, 1840-????; born 03/06/1840, 11 at night [bible] In 1841: Aged 1 (so born c1840); born Yorkshire; living at Beckbottom, Calverley, Yorkshire [1841C] In 1851: Aged 10 in 1851 (so born c1841), living in Farsley, Yorkshire; occupation 'Scholar' (at school) [1851C] \Ruth Ross:1842\, 1842-????; born 02/02/1842, 5 at night [bible] \Harriet Ross:1844\, 1844-????; born 06/06/1844, 11 at night [bible] In 1851: Aged 6 in 1851 (so born c1845), living in Farsley, Yorkshire; occupation 'Scholar' (at school) [1851C] \Hainesworth Ross:1846:1861\ (male), 1846-1861; born 21/05/1846 [bible] birth registered 04/06/1846 (interesting tally with the DOB from the family bible of 03/06/1846) [bible]; died 12/05/1861, aged 14 [grev] (family bible said 12/05/1860, aged 13) In 1851: Aged 4 in 1851 (so born c1847), living in Farsley, Yorkshire; occupation 'Scholar' (at school) [1851C] Notes: GRO birth index: Quarter: Jun 1848 Name: Emma Ross Mothers maiden name: -- District: Bradford Y. Vol/Page: XXIII/460 (#1,#2) Researched: 09/08/2003, Harris Library, Preston Certificate: Ordered 27/10/2003, with reference checks for XXIII/160 and XXIII/1160. Received 06/11/2003. #1 : Handwritten entries, and therefore subject to handwriting interpretation. #2 : Emma Ross : Unclear and faded - definitely said XX[*]/[?]60. - - - - - - - - Comparison of other Bradford Y. records confirmed XXIII. Most likely said 460, but could also say 160 or 1160. Emma Ross's <40> birth certificate: ---- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Bradford 1848 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Calverley in the County of York No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registar 343 Fourth June Emma Girl Isaac Maria Clothes(?) (x) The mark of Twelth June Jonas Foster 1848 Ross Ross {maybe Closh___?} Maria Ross 1848 Registar at Farsley formerly Mother Hainsworth Farsley ---- 1837online.com marriage search (30/10/2003) : Dec 1875 KNA/1 KNAPTON, John Marshall, 'Bradford, Y.', 9b/400 ROS/2 ROSS, Emma, 'Bradford, Y.', 9b/400 GRO marriage index: Quarter: Dec 1875 Grooms Name: John Marshall Knapton <39> Brides Name: Emma Ross <40> District: Bradford, Y. Vol/Page: 9b/400 Researched: 30/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 31/10/2003. Received 07/11/2003. Marriage of John Knapton <39> and Emma Ross <40> : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1875 Marriage solumnized at the Register Office in the District of Bradford in the County of York No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 129 Fifteenth John Marshall Knapton 30 years Widower Tobacconist Town Street, Stanningley John Marshall Knapton Mule Spinner December 1875 Emma Ross 27 years Spinster Grocer Beck Bottom, Farsley Isaac Ross (deceased) Grocer Married in the Register Office by Certificate before me (sig) Thomas Graither, Registrar This Marriage in the (sig) John Darlington, Superintendant Registrar was solumnized (sig) John M. Knapton Presence (sig) William Wharfen (Wharten?) between us (sig) Emma Ross of us (sig) Elijah Grimshaw ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1837online.com deaths search (15/11/2003) for Emma Knapton: Mar 1903 ROS/1 KNAPTON, Emma, 54, N.Bierley, 9b/157 GRO death index: Quarter: Mar 1903 Name: Emma Knapton <40> Age/DOB: 54 District: N.Bierley Vol/Page: 9b/157 Researched: 15/11/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 15/11/2003; Re-ordered 22/11/2003; Received 28/11/2003. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT North Bierley 1903 DEATH in the Sub-district of Calverley in the County of York No. When/where Name Sex Age Occupation Cause of death Informant When reg. Registrar 118 Twenty third January 1903 Emma Female 54 Wife of John Mitreal Stenosis J M Knapton Twenty fourth George Nicholson Beck Bottom, Farsley Knapton years Marshall Knapton 4 years Widower of Deceased January 1903 Registrar A grocer Certified by Present at the Death A.G.Milne MD Beck Bottom, Farsley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1851 census: Parish: Calverley Eccl District: St John Village: Farsley Address: Beckbottom County/Island: Yorkshire Source information: HO107/2313 Registration district: Bradford Sub-registration district: Calverley ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Folio: 119 Page: 33 Household schedule number: 128 GSU Number: 87531-940071 Name MF Relationship Mar Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isaac Ross M Head Mar 45 Slubber Yorkshire Farsley abt 1806 Isaac Ross <43> Maria Ross F Wife Mar 43 Yorkshire Farsley abt 1808 Maria Hainsworth <79> Ann Ross F Daur U 17 Burler(?) Yorkshire Farsley abt 1834 Ann Ross <<40>> Israel Ross M Son 12 Factory Boy Yorkshire Farsley abt 1839 Israel Ross <<40>> Mary Ross F Daur 10 Scholar Yorkshire Farsley abt 1841 Mary Ross <<40>> Harriet Ross F Daur 6 Scholar Yorkshire Farsley abt 1845 Harriet Ross <<40>> Hainsworth Ross M Son 4 Scholar Yorkshire Farsley abt 1847 Hainesworth Ross <<40>> Emma Ross F Daur 2 Yorkshire Farsley abt 1849 Emma Ross <40> 1871 census: Township: Calverley with Farsley Village: Farsley Local Board: Farsley Local Board Ecclesiastical District: St Johns Farsley Address: Hainswirth Sq Name Rel. M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace Isaac Ross Head Widw 65 Tea Dealer Stanningley Emma Ross Daur Unm 21 Grocer Farsley Source Information: PRO reference: RG10/4505 County: Yorkshire Registration district: Bradford Sub-registration district: Calverley ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Folio: 128 Page: 22 Household schedule number: 116 1881 census: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability John M. KNAPTON Head M Male 35 Leeds, York, England Grocer Emma KNAPTON Wife M Female 32 Farsley, York, England Grocer Wife Maria KNAPTON Daur Female 4 Farsley, York, England Lizzie KNAPTON Daur Female 2 Farsley, York, England Source Information: Dwelling Beckbottom Census Place Calverley Cum Farsley, York, England Family History Library Film 1342073 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4480 / 71 Page Number 28 See John Knapton <39> for 1891 and 1901 census information. From Greville (07/08/2003): With regards to Gladstone - his is the Certificate that the Registrar did not send. Reason being that the name of his mother did not correspond to the one (Emma) that was on my application. This lends to confirm that he was born before John & Emma married. I am concluding that John was his father - but was John married before? I rather think he may have been - more detective work. I'll keep you posted. Greville (18/09/2003): I also have the Birth cert and Death cert for Hainsworth Ross. It confirms he was a Boy (remember we couldn't be sure!). Father: Isaac Ross Mother: Maria Ross, formerly Hainsworth. (Now there's a surprise!!) However - the dates don't quite tally with the family bible (Karen's) dates. Birth cert shows 21st May 1846 - and not 3rd June. (Interestingly the birth was registered on 4th June - perhaps there was a misunderstanding way, way back). And the Death cert shows 12th May 1861, aged 14 - bible shows right date but 1860 and aged 13 !!!!) Rather odd. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.calverley.info/fars_bap.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Page Surname Name Died Age Born Relationship Relation Comments 28 Knapton Emma 1903 01 23 54 Wife of John 2nd Wife 28 Knapton Frances 1867 07 11 21 Wife of John 28 Knapton John Marshall 1914 12 28 69 Husband of Frances & Emma 28 Knapton Maria 1946 03 25 Daughter of John Eldset Daughter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.calverley.info/fars_bap_2.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Page Surname Name Died Age Born Relationship Relation Comments 127 Ross Isaac 1873 07 13 66 Husband of Maria 127 Ross Israel 1911 01 13 72 Son of Isaac & Maria 127 Ross Maria 1870 04 14 62 Wife of Isaac ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1841 census on the Ross's before Emma was born: Civil parish: Calverley Hundred: Morley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Beckbottom Source information: HO107/1298/3 Registration district: Bradford Sub-registration district: Calverley ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Folio: 12 Page: 16 Line number: 1 GSU Number: 464258 Name MF Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isaac Ross M 30-34 Sluber Y abt 1809 Isaac Ross <43> Maria Ross F 30-34 Y abt 1809 Maria Hainsworth <79> Sarah Ann Ross M 13 Y abt 1828 Looks at first like 'Graham' not 'Sarah Ann'! Martha Ross F 11 Y abt 1830 Ann Ross F 8 Y abt 1833 Israel Ross M 3 Y abt 1838 Mary Ross F 1 Y abt 1840 -- Greville (06/04/2004) : With ref to Israel/Isaac Ross I'm inclined to agree with you that it is one and the same person. I've searched 1837online and can only find the birth of an Israel in 2nd Qtr 1838, and only the death of an Israel in 1st Qtr of 1911. No sign of any Isaac! I've ordered the two certificates. They will confirm we have the right I.Ross and also confirm the correct date of death. Will let you know in due course. -- -- Greville (21/04/2004) : The Birth Certificate of Israel (1838, Qtr Jun, Bradford, Vol.23 Page 123) gives his DOB as 11-Jun-1838 at Farsley and confirms him as son of Isaac Ross (clothier) and Maria (formerly Hainsworth). The Death Certificate confirms the date as 30-Jan-1911, aged 72, engine man at iron forge. -- -- Greville (23/04/2004) : Hi, Ian You may already have done some further delving on Israel but please find below my latest findings just in case some of it is new to you. 1837online shows the marriage of an Israel ROSS in the Oct-Dec qtr of 1858 (Bradford Yk, 9b 182). YorkshireBMD gives the marriage of Israel ROSS to a Mary VAUTREY at St Wilfrid's, Calverley, in 1858 (Ref: CE127/H/416). I believe I have identified him on the 1881 Census at 10 Club Row, Headingley Cum Burley (RG11 4540/135 Pg13). He is a lodger, Married, aged 42 (of course), birthplace Farsley, at the home of a widow, Alice CAWOOD. I was therefore curious as to the location of his wife who obviously was still alive as Israel was not recorded as a widower. The only match for the 1881 Census on Familysearch for a Mary ROSS with the right criteria is at Kirkstall Road 52 Stansfield Row, Headingley Cum Burley (RG11 4539/116 Pg27). The criteria are: Primarily - she is the only one listed who is Head of a household and, importantly, Married (not widowed). She is aged 42 - same as Israel (not that that necessarily matters). Interestingly her elder son, John, has the middle initial 'V' - could it be 'Vautrey'??, and is aged 21 which ties in with a marriage in 1858. Assuming my findings are correct, it raises the question as to why they were living separately but apparently in the same locality. Were they separated? Possibly. The 1901 Census might shed some light on that but I don't have any vouchers at present. Of course Mary might have died before that Census anyway, or indeed pre- deceased Israel's death in 1911. On that point, his Death Certificate shows he died at Back Lane, Horsforth, and the Informant was a Mary Hardaker, Occupier of Back Lane. Again, it was apparently not one of his relatives who registered the death! -- Marriage of Israel Ross and Mary Vautrey on yorkshirebmd.org.uk: Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1858 ROSS, Israel // VAUTREY, Mary // St Wilfrid, Calverley // Leeds // CE127/H/416 FreeBMD: Marriages Dec 1858 Ross, Israel, Bradford Yorks, 9b/182 Vautrey, Mary, Bradford Yorks, 9b/182] Israel Ross in the 1881 census: Household: Name Relation MStatus Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Alice CAWOOD Head W Female 47 Mexborough John CAWOOD Son U Male 19 Kirkstall Shoe Maker Mary A. CAWOOD Daur U Female 17 Kirkstall Mill Hand Woollen Thomas CAWOOD Son U Male 15 Kirkstall Shoe Maker Thomas A. JACKSON Lodger U Male 28 Kirkstall Butcher Israel ROSS Lodger M Male 42 Farsley Millwright Source Information: Dwelling 10 Club Row Census Place Headingley Cum Burley, York, England Family History Library Film 1342092 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4540 / 135 Page Number 13 Israel Ross in the 1891 census: RG12/3524 Civil parish: Horsforth Admin county: Yorks W R Urban sanitary district: Horsforth Village: Horsforth Parliamentary borough or division: Pudsey Ecclesiastical parish or division: Guiseley Address: 61 Town Street (?) Household: Elizabeth Drake, Head, Wid, 52, Confectioner, Yorkshire Horsforth Israel Ross, Lodger, S, 50, Engine Driver Stationary, Yorkshire Farsley Mary Ross (wife of Israel Ross) in the 1881 census? Household: Name Relation MStatus Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Mary ROSS Head M Female 42 Holmfirth, York, England Woollen Weaver John V. ROSS Son U Male 21 Leeds, York, England Boot Rivetter Clara ROSS Daugr U Female 19 Kirkstall, York, England Woollen Weaver Kate ROSS Daugr Female 16 Kirkstall, York, England Mule Piecer (Tex) William ROSS Son Male 13 Kirkstall, York, England Cloth Dresser Source Information: Dwelling Kirkstall Rd 52 Stansfield Row Census Place Headingley Cum Burley, York, England Family History Library Film 1342092 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4539 / 116 Page Number 27 The matching Mary Ross (wife of Israel Ross) in the 1891 census is: RG12/3711 Civil parish: Headingley Cum Burley Admin county: Yorkshire Leeds Municipal borough: Leeds Municipal ward: Headingley Urban sanitary district: Leeds Village: Burley Parliamentary borough or division: North Leeds Ecclesiastical parish or division: St Matthias Address: 52 Stansfield Row Household: Mary Ross, Head, M, 52, Cloth Weaver, Yorkshire Holmfirth William Ross, Son, S, 23, Forgeman, Yorkshire Kirkstall William Emmett, Boarder, S, 29, Boot Rivetter, Yorkshire Kirkstall Could not find record of a John Ross, born Leeds, age approx. 30/31 in 1891. From yorkshirebmd.org.uk (24/04/2004) : Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1883 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference ROSS John V WILKINSON Louisa St Mathias, Burley Leeds CE10/C/349 This is almost certainly the marriage of John V Ross - the St Matthias church in Burley and the date (between 1881 and 1891 during which time she either dies, marries or moves) fit perfectly. From FreeBMD (24/04/2004) : Marriages Dec 1883 Ross John Vantry Leeds 9b 562 WILKINSON Louisa Leeds 9b 562 (could also be BASTON Florence Eliza Leeds 9b 562 but we already have good info linking John to Louisa Wilkinson) (Is the middle name 'Vantry' here a mis-transcription of 'Vautrey' on the part of FreeBMD?) From yorkshirebmd.org.uk (24/04/2004) : Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1884 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference ROSS Clara TORDOFF William H St Mathias, Burley Leeds CE10/C/404 This is almost certainly the marriage of Clara Ross - the St Matthias church in Burley and the date (between 1881 and 1891 during which time she either dies, marries or moves) fit perfectly. From FreeBMD (24/04/2004) : Marriages Sep 1884 Ross Clara Leeds 9b 493 Tordoff William Henry Leeds 9b 493 (could also be Martin John William Leeds 9b 493 but we already have good info linking Clara to William Tordoff) Information on Clara Tordoff (Ross) in 1891: RG12/3711 Civil parish: Headingley Cum Burley Admin county: Yorkshire Leeds Municipal borough: Leeds Municipal ward: Headingley Urban sanitary district: Leeds Village: Burley Parliamentary borough or division: North Leeds Ecclesiastical parish or division: St Matthias Address: 47 Stansfield Row Household: William H Tordoff, Head, M, 30(?), Boot Rivetter, Yorkshire Kirkstall Clara Tordoff, Wife, M, 29, Cloth Weaver, Yorkshire Kirkstall Maurice Tordoff, Son, ,5, Yorkshire Burley From yorkshirebmd.org.uk: Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1883 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference ROSS Kate YATES Tom St Peter, Leeds Leeds CE46/95/14 This is almost certainly the marriage of Kate Ross - the date (between 1881 and 1891 during which time where she either dies, marries or moves) fits, and the corresponding 1891 census entry for Tom Yates and Kate Yates gives very good evidence for it being the same Kate Ross. From FreeBMD (24/04/2004) : Marriages Dec 1883 Ross Kate Leeds 9b 693 YATES Tom Leeds 9b 693 (could also be Myers Henry Sutcliffe Leeds 9b 693 but we already have good info linking Clara to Tom Yates) Information on Kate Yates (Ross) in 1891: RG12/3711 Civil parish: Headingley Cum Burley Admin county: Yorkshire Leeds Municipal borough: Leeds Municipal ward: Headingley Urban sanitary district: Leeds Village: Burley Parliamentary borough or division: North Leeds Ecclesiastical parish or division: St Matthias Address: 2 Stansfield Row Household: Tom Yates, Head, M, 31, Tanner, Yorkshire Wicksley Kate Yates, Wife, M, 26, , Yorkshire Kirkstall Myra Yates, Daur, , 10 Mo, Yorkshire Burley ----------------- 28/11/2004 Message from : Howard Archer Subject : Re - William Henry Tordoff hiya ian are researching the Tordoff/ Ross family from Kirstall. please let me know your line. have a look at www.tribalpages.com/tribes/tordoff many thanks howard archer 28/11/2004 Hi, Howard. It seems we have a match. I have a William Henry Tordoff who married Clara Ross, and where the details I have on their birth and marriage match with the dates on the website. See pages http://www.goblin-online.net/genealogy/gentree/gp70.html#head0 and http://www.goblin-online.net/genealogy/gentree/tp8.html on my website. Drop me an email, my address is ian@goblin-online.net ----------------- From: Howard & Maria (howard.maria@btinternet.com) Subject: tordoff/ Ross family Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 21:19:11 -0000 To: (ian@goblin-online.net) thanks for your reply Ian, hope you have visited my site. Unfortunately I am unable to visit yours maybe you could send me a link. I do family history research as a part time job, after doing my own a couple of years ago. The TORDOFF research is a favour to a friend who babysits my daughter. Her Great Grandfather was William Henry Tordoff, and if you look at the site, I set up for her,Donald Tordoff is her brother and Albert Tordoff - father and so on. I live in braintree, Essex and have a 2 year old daughter, you can see my OWN site at www.tribalpages.com/tribes/howardmaria she is very interested in the connection of 'Clara Ross' father - Israel going to the US,and Clara and her mother then being refused entry beyond Ellis Island when they went to join him, this info was given to her when her Grandfather (Maurice), was dying. please see attached document about the US link. please let me more more about you and your TORDOFF/ROSS connections many thanks Howard Archer ----------------- Search for birth of Isaac Ross (1807) in IGI (28/11/2004) ISACK ROSS Male Event(s): Birth: 16 JAN 1806 Rehoboth Particular Baptist, Farsley, Yorkshire, England Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOSEPH ROSS Mother: NANCEY Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C093361 1779 - 1837 0816620 (RG4 3160) Film 6910558 Film Sheet: 00 Not necessarily him, but it's in the right place - assuming he was likely born where he died - and close to the year. I can't say for certain, but this is the most likely looking possibility in the IGI at the moment. A possible looking marriage of Joseph and Nancey is JOSEPH ROUSE Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: NANCY HOLLINGS Marriage: 27 NOV 1804 Bradford, Yorkshire, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M107655 1790 - 1812 0990533 Film 6911015 Film Sheet: 00 Again, no proof yet that is the correct marriage. ----------------- _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ ----------------- /=============================================================================/ ID: <41> Status: D Name: \Henry Hodgkins\ [Dad guessed Jim] - Kathleen Hodgkins father Gender: M Gen: -3 Position: 0010 Born: 05/12/1867, Ogley Hay, Staffordshire, England 1881 census gives birth place of Ogley Hay, Staffordshire, England [1881C]. 1901 census gives date between 01/04/1867 and 31/03/1968, and a birth place of Staffordshire [1901C]. 1911 gives c1868, Ogley Hay, Staffordshire [1911C]. Henry's birth certificate confirms date of 05/12/1867 and birth in Ogley Hay. Married: Married by 31/03/1901 [1901 census], fragment of marriage certificate says 25/12/1897. Marriage index on www.freebmd.org.uk says it occurred in the registration district of Rotherham. Full marriage certificate confirms marriage on 25/12/1897, at All Saints Church, Aston, Yorkshire. Witnesses were Arthur Hodgkins, Ann Elizabeth Cooper and E. Blackburn (asst. curate). Died: Circa 1940, based on interment expenses dated 19th March 1940. Also recorded on marriage of John and Kathleen (<6> and <7>) as deceased by 25/10/1941. Partner: <42> Child: <6> Father: <50> Mother: <51> Sibling: \Agnes Hodgkins:1862\ ("Aggie") Christened Oct-Dec 1862, Lichfield district (6b/320) In 1871: Aged 8; born in Hammerwich, Staffordshire; Living at Hammerwich, Staffordshire (born c1863) [1871C] A family story [DH] places her in Canada, and a family artifact from her in the belongings of Nell Hodgkins <6> is a momento of the Blue Mountains in Australia. "Nellie Hodgkins with Love from Auntie Aggie, A souvenir of The Blue Mountains. N.S.W." Thought at first it read "A.S.W." and indicated her initials - but the "A." is on closer inspection an "N.". N.S.W. is New South Wales, Australia. Many references (eg. Wentworth Falls) in there are in the Blue Mountains national park there. Nellie is probably sister Ellen Hodgkins <41> not Nell <6>. No Canadian connection (or firm Australian connection) yet confirmed. So far, no sign of her - in the UK or Canada - after 1871. Have checked marriage records, censuses, immigration records. \Ellen Hodgkins:c1866\ ("Nellie") In 1871: Aged 5; born in Hammerwich, Staffordshire; Living at Hammerwich, Staffordshire (born c1866) [1871C] A family letter from Nell Hodgkins <6> places "Aunt Nellie" in Australia. A family photo calls her "Nellie" - pictured with a husband and two children (both boys). An address at the bottom of the photo reads "3/4 Parramatta Rd, Leichhardt & Petersham. N.S.W." This address is almost certainly the photographers - not Ellen's - but "N.S.W." suggests "New South Wales" in Australia. Leichhardt and Petersham are areas in/near Sydney, Australia. The state of New South Wales is near. "Nellie" of the Blue Mountains souvenir (see sister Agnes Hodgkins <41>) is probably this Nellie, and the souvenir was perhaps passed down to Nell Hodgkins <6>. No other Australian connection yet confirmed, apart from the Australian souvenir from Aggie (whose significance on Nellie herself is unclear). So far, no sign of her - in the UK or Australia - after 1871. Have checked marriage records, censuses, immigration records. \Maria Hodgkins:c1872\ ("Ria") In 1881: Aged 8; born in Hammerwich, Stafford, England; Scholar; Living at Rugeley Rd, Burntwood Edial & Woodhouses, Stafford, England (born c1872) [1881C] In 1891: Aged 18; born in Hammerwich, Stafford; Domestic Servant; Living at Planters Plow, Lichfield, Staffordshire; (born c1872) [1891C] A family photo calls her "Ria". \Arthur Hodgkins:c1874\ In 1881: Aged 6; born in Hammerwich, Stafford, England; Scholar; Living at Rugeley Rd, Burntwood Edial & Woodhouses, Stafford, England (born c1874) [1881C] In 1891: Aged 16; born in Hammerwich, Stafford; Scholar; Living at Planters Plow, Lichfield, Staffordshire (born c1874) [1891C] \William Hodgkins:c1878\ In 1881: Aged 2; born in Burntwood, Stafford, England; Scholar; Living at Rugeley Rd, Burntwood Edial & Woodhouses, Stafford, England (born c1878) [1881C] In 1891: Aged 12; born in Burntwood, Stafford; Scholar; Living at Planters Plow, Lichfield, Staffordshire (born c1878) [1891C] In 1901: Aged 22; born c1879, Chasetown, Staffordshire; Coal miner haulier; Single; Living at 22 Rugeley Rd, Chasetown, Burntwood, Lichfield, Staffordshire [1901C] \Albert Hodgkins:c1883\ In 1891: Aged 8; born in Burntwood, Stafford; Scholar; Living at Planters Plow, Lichfield, Staffordshire (born c1883) [1891C] In 1901: Aged 18; born c1883, Bony Hay, Staffordshire; Coal miner horse driver; Single; Living at 22 Rugeley Rd, Chasetown, Burntwood, Lichfield, Staffordshire [1901C] In 1911: Aged 28; born c1883, Bony Hay, Chase Town Parish, Staffordshire; Scholar; "Coal Miner, Hewer"; Living at Cross St, Chase Terrace, nr Walsall, Staffordshire [1911C] Wife in 1911 is \Elizabeth ____:c1887\ Elizabeth aged 24 in 1911; born c1887, Norton Canes Parish, Staffordshire; Living at Cross St, Chase Terrace, nr Walsall, Staffordshire [1911C] Notes: GRO birth index: Quarter: Dec 1867 Name: Henry Hodgkins District: Lichfield Vol/Page: 6b/368 Researched: 09/08/2003, Harris Library, Preston Certificate: Received in post 19/08/2003 Staffordshire registration districts: http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/reg/sts.htm http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/reg/sts.htm#lich Lichfield Created 1st July 1837. Sub-districts : Lichfield; Rugeley; Yoxall. GRO volumes : XVII (1837-51); 6b (1852-1930). Alrewas, Alrewas Hays, Armitage, Brereton, Burntwood, Colton, Curborough and Elmhurst, Elford, Farewell and Chorley, Fisherwick, Fradley, Freeford, Fulfen, Hammerwich, Hamstall Ridware, Haselour, King's Bromley, King's Bromley Hays, Lichfield, Longdon, Mavestyn Ridware, Ogley Hay, Orgreave, Pipehill, Pipe Ridware, Rugeley, Shire Oak, Shenstone, Streethay, Swinfen and Packington, Tamhorn, Wall, Weeford, Whittington, Yoxall. Registers now in Lichfield, East Staffordshire and Cannock Chase districts. Birth certificate of Henry Hodgkins <41> : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Lichfield 1867 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Lichfield in the County of Stafford No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 360 Fifth December 1867 Henry Boy Joseph Georgiana Coal J Hodgkins Twenty seventh Charles Ogley Hay Hodgkins Hodgkins Miner Father December 1867 Gillard formerly Ogley hay Registrar Lancashire ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GRO marriage index: Quarter: Dec 1897 Names: Henry Hodgkins, Annie Cooper District: Rotherham Vol/Page: 9c/1066 Researched: 15/08/2003, www.freebmd.org.uk Certificate: Ordered 23/08/2003. Received 02/09/2003. NOTES: Cross-checked in microfilm index records in Harris Library, Preston : found no record of the marriage there. However, this and and the marriage certificate fragment I possess both agree, and the marriage was double-keyed in FreeBMD, so this is likely correct. UPDATE: Reference was indeed correct. Received marriage certificate 02/09/2003. Marriage certificate : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registration district Rotherham 1897 All Saints Church in the Parish of Aston in the County of York No When Name Age Condition Profession Residence Father Profession 13 Dec 25 1897 Henry Hodgkins 28 Bachelor Miner Woodhouse Mill Joseph Hodgkins Miner Annie Cooper 22 Spinster ---------- North Staveley James Cooper (deceased) ---------- Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me, (sig) Henry Hodgkins in the presence of us Arthur Hodgkins E. Blackburn, Assist. Curate Annie Cooper Ann Elizabeth Cooper ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Search for Maria Hodgkins: ############### Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Births Dec 1871 Hewitson Marian Claribel Bromsgrove 6c 406 Births Mar 1872 Hudson Maria Uttoxeter 6b 343 Births Mar 1873 Hewitson Maria Beaman Bromsgrove 6c 446 Births Jun 1873 Hitchings Marian King's N. 6c 480 Births Sep 1873 Hitchiner Maria Lichfield 6b 445 -- -- Search for Arthur Hodgkins: ############### Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Births Mar 1874 HUTCHINSON Arthur Hamilton Wolverhampton 6b 663 Births Jun 1874 Hudson Arthur Joseph Kidderminster 6c 278 Births Sep 1874 Hodson Arthur Wolverhampton 6b 643 Births Sep 1875 HITCHINGS Arthur Penkridge 6b 485 Births Dec 1875 Hodgkins Arthur James Stourbridge 6c 174 *** - - - - - - - - Hodgkinson Arthur Joseph Wolstanton 6b 116 - - - - - - - - Hodson Arthur Walsall 6b 680 Births Mar 1876 Hodkinson Arthur Enoch W Stone 6b 52 - - - - - - - - Hudson Arthur Ashbourne 7b 629 -- -- Search for William Hodgkins: ############### Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Births Dec 1877 HODSON William Henry Lichfield 6b 476 -- 1911 Census - Henry Hodgkins, Annie Hodgkins (Annie Cooper); children Albert, Nellie, Jim, Annie, Edith; brother-in-law James Cooper (brother of Annie Cooper) --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN28039 RG78PN1602 RD511 SD1 ED3 SN331 Schedule Number: 331 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Yorkshire West Riding District: Rotherham Subdistrict: Aston Enumeration District: 3 Parish: Aston cum Aughton -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Henry Hodgkins Head M 43 Married 13 Coal Miner, Hewer Worker Stafford, Ogley Hay c1868 <41> Annie Hodgkins Wife F 36 Married 13 5 5 0 Worcester, Netherton c1875 Annie Cooper <42> Albert Hodgkins Son M 12 School Yorks, Woodhouse Mill c1899 <<6>> Nellie Hodgkins Daughter F 11 School Yorks, Swallow nest c1900 <<6>> Jim Hodgkins Son M 8 School Notts, Selston c1903 <<6>> Annie Hodgkins Daughter F 7 School Notts, Selston c1904 <<6>> Edith Hodgkins Daughter F 3 School Yorks, Aughton c1907 <<6>> James Cooper Boarder M 24 Single Coal Miner Filler Worker Yorks, Aston c1887 <<42>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 4 Signature (sig) Henry Hodgkins Postal Address 4 George Square --------------------------------------------------------- 1901 census information: PRO Reference RG Number, Series RG13 Piece 4390 Folio 55 Page 45 Schedule Number 251 Location: Address Swallownest Civil Parish Aston Cum Aughton Rural District -- Town or Village or Hamlet Swallownest Parliamentary Borough or Division Rotherham Ecclesiastical Parish All Saints Administrative County Yorkshire County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District -- Ward of Municipal Borough or Urban District -- Henry Hodgkins, 33, Coal Miner Hewer, born Staffordshire Ann Hodgkins, 26, born Worcestershire Albert Hodgkins, 2, born Yorks Woodhouse Mill Nellie Hodgkins, 1, born Yorks Swallownest 1871 census: Township: Hammerwich, Staffordshire Village: Hammerwich, Staffordshire Ecclesiastical District: Lichfield, Staffordshire Address: Watling Street Name Rel. M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace Joseph Hodgkins Head Marr 35 Miner Staffordshire Lichfield Georgena Hodgkins Wife Marr 29 Staffordshire Darlaston Agnes Hodgkins Daur 8 Scholar Staffordshire Hammerwich Ellen Hodgkins Daur 5 Scholar Staffordshire Hammerwich Henry Hodgkins Son 3 Scholar Staffordshire Hammerwich Source information: PRO Reference: RG10/2915 Registration district: Lichfield, Staffordshire Sub-registration district: Lichfield, Staffordshire ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Folio: 62 Page: 20 Household schedule number: 87 1881 census: Henry HODGKINS Male Other Information: Birth Year 1868 Birthplace Ogley Hay, Stafford, England Age 13 Occupation Employed In Coal Mine Marital Status Head of Household Joseph HODGKINS Relation Son Disability Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Joseph HODGKINS Head M Male 44 Lichfield, Stafford, England Coal Miner Georgiana HODGKINS Wife M Female 39 Darlaston, Stafford, England Henry HODGKINS Son Male 13 Ogley Hay, Stafford, England Employed In Coal Mine Maria HODGKINS Daur Female 8 Hammerwich, Stafford, England Scholar Arthur HODGKINS Son Male 6 Hammerwich, Stafford, England Scholar William HODGKINS Son Male 2 Burntwood, Stafford, England Source Information: Dwelling Rugeley Rd Census Place Burntwood Edial & Woodhouses, Stafford, England Family History Library Film 1341664 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2774 / 64 Page Number 26 1911 Census - Albert Hodgkins, wife Elizabeth, and mother Georgi(a)na --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN16870 RG78PN1044 RD367 SD1 ED12 SN60 Schedule Number: 60 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Staffordshire District: Lichfield Subdistrict: Lichfield Enumeration District: 12 Parish: -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Albert Hodgkins Head M 28 Married Coal Miner, Hewer Coalmining Worker Bony Hay, Chase Town Parish, Staffs c1883 <<41>> Elizabeth Hodgkins Wife F 24 Married <11887<<41>> Georgina Hodgkins Mother F 69 Widow Darlaston, Staffs c1842 Georgiana Lancashire <51> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 4 Signature (sig) Albert Hodgkins Postal Address Cross St, Chase Terrace, nr Walsall, Staffs --------------------------------------------------------- 1901 census information - William and Albert: PRO Reference RG Number, Series RG13 Piece 2655 Folio 58 Page 3 Location: Address 22 Rugeley Rd Civil Parish Burntwood Town or Village or Hamlet Chase Terrace Ecclesiastical Chasetown Administrative County Staffordshire Reg District Lichfield Joseph Hodgkins, Head, Married, 65, Coal miner hewer, born Lichfield Staffs Georgina Hodgkins, Wife, Married, 69, born Darlaston Staffs - age 69 probably incorrect as makes her born c1832, not c1842 as already known Wm Hodgkins, Son, 22, Single, Coal miner haulier, born Chasetown Staffs Albert Hodgkins, Son, 18, Single, Coal miner horse driver, born Bony Hay Staffs 1891 census of parents and siblings: Admin County: Stafford Civil Parish: Burntwood Village: Burntwood Rural sanitary district: Lichfield Parliamentary borough: Lichfield Eccl district: Burntwood Address: Planters Plow Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Profession Birthplace --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hodgkin Jos Head M M 55 Coal Miner Staff Lichfield Hodgkin Georgina Wife M F 49 Staff Darlaston Hodgkin Maria Daur Single F 18 Domestic Servant Staff Hammerwich Hodgkin Arthur Son Single M 16 Miner Staff Hammerwich Hodgkin Willm Son Single M 12 Miner Staff Burntwood Hodgkin Albert Son Single M 8 Scholar Staff Burntwood Agnes Christening (freebmd): Births Oct-Dec 1862 HODGKINS Agnes Lichfield 6b 320 Birth certificate (fragment) : Book No. 24 Superintendent Registrar's District Lich... 1867 BIRTH in the Sub-District of Lichfiel... No. : 360 When and where born : Fifth December 1867. Ogley Hay Name : Henry Sex : Boy Name and surname of father : Joseph Hodgkins Name... : Georg... Hodgk... former... Lancash... I, Alfred Dean Parker Superintendent registrar of the District of Li... [...] Witness my hand this 24th day of Octobe... Marriage certificate (fragment) : (handwritten) Mothers Wedding Day 1897 No. : 13 When Married : Dec 25. 1897 Henry Hodgkins <41> is recorded on Kathleen Hodgkins <6> birth certificate in 1917 as a "Colliery Surface Man" (Colliery Surface Manager?). He and Annie <42> were in residence at 4 George Square, Aughton, where Kathleen was born. Recorded on marriage certificate of Kathleen and John (<6> and <7>) as the father of Kathleen, and as a Surface (?)Wriher(?), deceased. Marriage certificate with Annie Cooper <42> states he was 28 on 25/12/1897, a Miner, living at/in Woodhouse Mill. It confirms his father was Joseph Hodgkins <50>, a Miner. Interesting information on Ogley Hay can be found here: http://www.bhills-history.fsnet.co.uk/index4.htm http://www.bhills-history.fsnet.co.uk/ogley_hay.htm /=============================================================================/ ID: <42> Status: D Name: \Ann ("Annie") Cooper\ Kathleen Hodgkins mother Gender: F Gen: -3 Position: 0011 Born: 05/03/1875, 22 Lavinder Fold, Netherton, Worcestershire. Recorded age 6 in 1881 census, born c1875, Worcestershire [1881C] Recorded age 16 in 1891 census, born Netherton, Worstershire [1891C] Recorded age 26 in 1901 census, born c1875, Worcestershire [1901C] Recorded age 36 in 1911 census, born c1875, Netherton, Worcestershire [1901C] Annie's birth certificate confirms a date of 05/03/1875, and a birth place of 22 Lavinder Fold, Netherton [cert] Married: Married by 31/03/1901 [1901 census], fragment of marriage certificate says 25/12/1897. Marriage index on www.freebmd.org.uk says it occurred in the registration district of Rotherham. Full marriage certificate confirms marriage on 25/12/1897, at All Saints Church, Aston, Yorkshire. Witnesses were Arthur Hodgkins, Ann Elizabeth Cooper and E. Blackburn (asst. curate). Died: January 1954, based on newspaper clipping of Nell's <6> of her mothers death (and rush off the Cunard ship to attend the funeral). The newspaper clipping is dated 14th Jan 1954. Interment expenses dated 15th January 1954 also support this. Partner: <41> Child: <6> Father: <52> Mother: <53> Sibling: \Robert Cooper:1879\, born 16 May 1879 [Dads bible] \Maria Cooper:1878\, born 9 March 1878 [Dads bible] recorded age 3 in 1881 census, born Worstershire Netherton, living at Millstone Hill, Aston Cum Aughton, York, England recorded age 13 in 1891 census, born Worstershire Netherton, living at No. 9, \Robert Cooper:1880\, born 2 Nov 1880 [Dads bible] \Elizabeth Cooper:1881\, born 1 Nov 1881 [Dads bible] recorded age 9 in 1891 census, born Yorkshire Aston \Lily Cooper:1884\, born 29 Oct 1884 [Dads bible] \James Cooper:1886\, born 21 Oct 1886 [Dads bible] Recorded age 4 in 1891 census, born Yorkshire Aston [1891C] Still living in 1910, as mother Elizabeth <53> died circa 1910, aged 58, and interment expenses dated 14/03/1910 state the interment was arranged by James Cooper. It does not say which James (son <<42>> or husband <52>), but we know from the 1881 and 1891 censuses that James senior <52> died between 1881 and 1891, so it *must* be James junior <<42>> ! Recorded age 24 in 1911; born c1887, Aston, Yorkshire; Single; "Coal Miner Filler"; boarding with sister Annie, 4 George Square, Aston cum Aughton [1911C] \Lily Cooper:1889\, born 12 June 1889 [Dads bible] recorded age 1 in 1891 census, born Yorkshire Aston Notes: GRO birth index: Quarter: Jun 1875 Name: Ann Cooper Mothers maiden name: -- District: Dudley Vol/Page: 6c/113 Researched: 02/02/2004, www.freebmd.org.uk Certificate: Ordered 02/02/2004 (with ref checks). Received 12/02/2004. GRO marriage index: Quarter: Dec 1897 Names: Henry Hodgkins, Annie Cooper District: Rotherham Vol/Page: 9c/1066 Researched: 15/08/2003, www.freebmd.org.uk Certificate: Ordered 23/08/2003. Received 02/09/2003. NOTES: Cross-checked in microfilm index records in Harris Library, Preston : found no record of the marriage there. However, this and and the marriage certificate fragment I possess both agree, and the marriage was double-keyed in FreeBMD, so this is likely correct. UPDATE: Reference was indeed correct. Received marriage certificate 02/09/2003. Birth certificate (fragment) : 1875 birth in the Sub-Distr... Number: 282 Where and where born: Fifth March 1875, 22 Lavinder Fold, Netherton Name (if any): Ann So... : Su... Marriage certificate (fragment) : (handwritten) Mothers Wedding Day 1897 No. : 13 When Married : Dec 25. 1897 Birth certificate of Ann Cooper <42> : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Dudley 1875 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Dudley in the County of Worcester No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 282 Fifth March 1875 Ann Girl James Elizabeth Coal (x) The mark of Fifth E.Hollier 22 Lavender Fold, Netherton Cooper Cooper Miner Elizabeth Cooper April Registrar formerly Mother 1875 Garratt 22 Lavender Fold Netherton Dudley ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriage certificate : Registration district Rotherham 1897 All Saints Church in the Parish of Aston in the County of York No When Age Condition Profession Residence Father Profession 13 Dec 25 1897 28 Bachelor Miner Woodhouse Mill Joseph Hodgkins Miner 22 Spinster ---------- North Staveley James Cooper (deceased) ---------- Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me, (sig) Henry Hodgkins in the presence of us Arthur Hodgkins E. Blackburn, Assist. Curate Annie Cooper Ann Elizabeth Cooper -- Search for Annie Cooper: ############### Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Births Mar 1875 Cooper Annie Elizabeth Alcester 6d 609 Births Jun 1875 COOPER Annie Stourbridge 6c 210 Births Dec 1875 Cooper Annie W. Bromwich 6b 748 -- Dad: This is grandma's mothers family. Your grandma's mother was was a Cooper and her name was Annie. This is a list of her family as listed in the family bible. Name Date of birth Robert Cooper 16 May 1879 Annie Cooper 5 March 1879 Your great grandma {{see later note*}} Maria Cooper 9 March 1878 Robert Cooper 2 Nov 1880 Elizabeth Cooper 1 Nov 1881 Lily Cooper 29 Oct 1884 James Cooper 21 Oct 1886 Lily Cooper 12 June 1889 All the above are brothers and sisters of great grandma. My transcription of same source (family bible) : Robert Cooper Born May the 16th 18[4? 7?, prob 7]9 Annie Cooper Born March the 5th 18[7?]5 Maria Cooper Born March the 9th 18[7?]8 Robert Cooper Born November the 2nd 1880 Elizabeth Cooper Born November the 1st 1881 Lily Cooper Born October the 29th 1884 James Cooper Born October the 21 [written: 'first']t 1886 Lily Cooper Born J['a' or 'u']n[e?] the 12th 1889 ?? Lily Cooper, Born c1884 in Grimsby ?? Elizabeth Anne Cooper, Born c1880 in George Lane (South Woodford) ?? Elizabeth Cooper, Born c1880 in Leytonstone, Essex ?? Elizabeth Cooper, Born 1880 in London ?? Elizabeth Cooper, Born c1881 in Chorley, Lancs ?? Elizabeth Cooper, Born 1881 in Lincolnshire ?? Elizabeth Cooper, Born c1881 (No Place Of Birth Available) ?? Elizabeth Ellen Cooper, Born c1882 (No Place Of Birth Available) ?? Robert Cooper, Born c1879 in ? (msg to Rona) ?? Annie Cooper, Born c1880 in Chesterfield Send Message to Robert about Annie Cooper 1911 Census - Henry Hodgkins, Annie Hodgkins (Annie Cooper); children Albert, Nellie, Jim, Annie, Edith; brother-in-law James Cooper (brother of Annie Cooper) --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN28039 RG78PN1602 RD511 SD1 ED3 SN331 Schedule Number: 331 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Yorkshire West Riding District: Rotherham Subdistrict: Aston Enumeration District: 3 Parish: Aston cum Aughton -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Henry Hodgkins Head M 43 Married 13 Coal Miner, Hewer Worker Stafford, Ogley Hay c1868 <41> Annie Hodgkins Wife F 36 Married 13 5 5 0 Worcester, Netherton c1875 Annie Cooper <42> Albert Hodgkins Son M 12 School Yorks, Woodhouse Mill c1899 <<6>> Nellie Hodgkins Daughter F 11 School Yorks, Swallow nest c1900 <<6>> Jim Hodgkins Son M 8 School Notts, Selston c1903 <<6>> Annie Hodgkins Daughter F 7 School Notts, Selston c1904 <<6>> Edith Hodgkins Daughter F 3 School Yorks, Aughton c1907 <<6>> James Cooper Boarder M 24 Single Coal Miner Filler Worker Yorks, Aston c1887 <<42>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 4 Signature (sig) Henry Hodgkins Postal Address 4 George Square --------------------------------------------------------- 1901 census: Source: PRO Reference RG Number, Series RG13 Piece 4390 Folio 55 Page 45 Schedule Number 251 Address: Address Swallownest Civil Parish Aston Cum Aughton Rural District -- Town or Village or Hamlet Swallownest Parliamentary Borough or Division Rotherham Ecclesiastical Parish All Saints Administrative County Yorkshire County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District -- Ward of Municipal Borough or Urban District -- Details: Ann Hodgkins Relation to Head of Family Wife Condition as to Marriage M Age Last Birthday 26 Sex F Profession or Occupation Employment Status Undefined Where Born Worcestershire Language Infirmity Family: Husband - Henry Hodgkins, aged 33, a Coal Miner Hewer born in Staffordshire Son - Albert Hodgkins, aged 2, born Yorks Woodhouse Mill Daughter - Nellie Hodgkins, aged 1, born Yorks Swallownest 1891 census: Cooper, Ann 16 Netherton, Worcestershire Daughter Aston Yorkshire Location: Administrative county: Yorkshire Civil parish: Aston Village: Aston Rural sanitary district: Rotherham Parliamentary borough: Rotherham Eccl. parish/district: All Saints Address: No. 9 Ref: RG12/3844 Household: Elizabeth Cooper, Head, Widow, 39, Living on own means, Worstershire Netherton Ann Cooper, Daur, Single, 16, Worstershire Netherton Marie (Maria?) Cooper, Daur, Single, 13, Worstershire Netherton Elizabeth Cooper, Daur, 9, Yorkshire Aston James Cooper, Son, 4, Yorkshire Aston Lilly Cooper, Daur, 1, Yorkshire Aston Note the absence of James Cooper senior, and Elizabath senior as a widow. So James Cooper <52> died between 1881 and 1891 - useful to know! On the previous image - and living on the same street - is a Robert Cooper, age 66, married to Ann Cooper age 61. Probably the same Robert Cooper <73> who is the father of Annie's <42> father James Cooper <52>. 1881 census: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability James COOPER Head M Male 28 Gloucester, England Coal Miner Elizth. COOPER Wife M Female 28 Worcester, England Annie COOPER Dau Female 6 Worcester, England Maria COOPER Dau Female 3 Worcester, England Source Information: Dwelling Millstone Hill Census Place Aston Cum Aughton, York, England Family History Library Film 1342129 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4670 / 67 Page Number 23 * Additional notes on date of birth and the authenticity of this information: * * Dad's info (from the Hodgkins family bible) initially gave a DOB of 05/03/1879 * 1881 and 1901 censusus have age as 6 in 1881, and 26 in 1901, * consistent with each other but inconsistent with Dad's info. * These censuses therefore suggested a year of approximately 1875. * * I was convinced these censuses referred to the same Annie Cooper, and to the Annie Cooper * who was the mother of Kathleen Hodgkins. She is recorded in 1881 as being aged 6, born in * Worcestershire, and having a sister Maria - the only one of her siblings who would have been * born by then if my belief that Robert Cooper died as a baby is correct. * A matching Ann Hodgkins is present in the 1901 census, aged 26, also born in Worcestershire, * with children Albert Hodgkins and Nellie Hodgkins of ages consistent with Kathleen Hodgkins * siblings, and where Albert (16/09/1898) and Nellie (01/04/1900) were the only children of * Annie's (see Kathleen <6>) who would have been born by 1901. * This being the case, this allows Annie's parents to be taken to be James and Elizabeth Cooper, * and her otherwise unnamed Hodgkins husband to be named as Henry Hodgkins, a coal miner. * * What this meant, however, is that the ages given by both censuses make the date of birth * for Annie given to me by Dad (05/03/1879) incorrect, placing her birth in approximately 1875. * Maybe Dad had transcribed the bible incorrectly. Maybe the writing in the bible wasn't fully * legible (a 5 read as a 9 by Dad?). Maybe the date was incorrectly recorded in the bible. * I, however, am sure these census record do refer to the Annie Cooper I seek and that they * consistently show a date of about 1875. Annie Coopers birth certificate confirms 1875. Henry Hodgkins is later traced in the 1881 census as "Employed In Coal Mine" at age 13, siblings Maria, Arthur and William, and parents Joseph and Georgiana. See Henry <41> for details. Henry Hodgkins <41> is recorded on Kathleen Hodgkins <6> birth certificate in 1917 as a "Colliery Surface Man" (Colliery Surface Manager?). He and Annie <42> were in residence at 4 George Square, Aughton, where Kathleen was born. Marriage certificate with Henry Hodgkins <41> states she was 22 on 25/12/1897, no occupation specified, living in North Staveley. It confirms her father was James Cooper <52>. It states James Cooper was deceased. NB. On 05/11/1885, a Mr Cooper, probably James Cooper <52>, bought a childs oak coffin. It is not recorded who it was for. Possibly Lily Cooper, who was born 29/10/1884 and presumably died as a second named Lily Cooper is born 12/06/1889. On 18/01/1890, a Mrs Cooper, probably Elizabeth Cooper <53> bought a coffin. It is not recorded who this was for either. Possibly her father? /=============================================================================/ ID: <43> Status: D Name: \Isaac Ross\ Gender: M Gen: -5 Position: 011010 Born: c1807 [http://www.calverley.info/fars_bap_2.htm] Married: 06/08/1827, Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England [IGI] Died: 13/07/1873, Beckbottom, Farsley Partner: <79> Child: <40> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: From the IGI - marriage: ISAAC ROSS Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: MARIA HAINSWORTH Marriage: 06 AUG 1827 Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M071933 1826 - 1829 0918384-0918386 Film 6900089 Film Sheet: 00 England and Wales, Civil Registration Index 1837-1900 [familysearch.org] records a death: Ross, Isaac Year: 1873 Quarter: September Record Type: Deaths Volume: 9b District: Bradford Page: 152 This may or may not be the same Isaac Ross. However, being recorded in the September quarter (ie. the 3 months leading up to and including September) is consistent with a death in July 1873, and the chances are it is him. The online transcription of the civil registration index does not give any further details. GRO death index: Quarter: Sep 1873 Name: Isaac Ross Age/DOB: 66 District: Bradford, Y. Vol/Page: 9b/152 Researched: 27/10/2003, 1837online.com, confirming Civil Registration Index entry from familysearch.org Certificate: Ordered 27/10/2003. Received 06/11/2003. Isaac Ross's <43> death certificate: ---- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Leeds 1873 DEATH in the Sub-district of Calverley in the County of York No. When/where Name Sex Age Occupation Cause of death Informant When reg. Registar 194 Thirteenth Issac Ross Male 66 Grocer Disease of the William Slater Fifteenth George July 1873 Years Prostate gland In attendance July 1873 ___ Holson Beckbottom bysuria(?) cystitis High Street Registar Farsley Certified Farsley Calverley ---- 1841 census: Civil parish: Calverley Hundred: Morley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Beckbottom Source information: HO107/1298/3 Registration district: Bradford Sub-registration district: Calverley ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Folio: 12 Page: 16 Line number: 1 GSU Number: 464258 Name MF Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isaac Ross M 30-34 Sluber Y abt 1809 Isaac Ross <43> Maria Ross F 30-34 Y abt 1809 Maria Hainsworth <79> Sarah Ann Ross M 13 Y abt 1828 Looks at first like 'Graham' not 'Sarah Ann'! Martha Ross F 11 Y abt 1830 Ann Ross F 8 Y abt 1833 Israel Ross M 3 Y abt 1838 Mary Ross F 1 Y abt 1840 1851 census: Parish: Calverley Eccl District: St John Village: Farsley Address: Beckbottom County/Island: Yorkshire Source information: HO107/2313 Registration district: Bradford Sub-registration district: Calverley ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Folio: 119 Page: 33 Household schedule number: 128 GSU Number: 87531-940071 Name MF Relationship Mar Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isaac Ross M Head Mar 45 Slubber Yorkshire Farsley abt 1806 Isaac Ross <43> Maria Ross F Wife Mar 43 Yorkshire Farsley abt 1808 Maria Hainsworth <79> Ann Ross F Daur U 17 Burler(?) Yorkshire Farsley abt 1834 Ann Ross <<40>> Israel Ross M Son 12 Factory Boy Yorkshire Farsley abt 1839 Israel Ross <<40>> Mary Ross F Daur 10 Scholar Yorkshire Farsley abt 1841 Mary Ross <<40>> Harriet Ross F Daur 6 Scholar Yorkshire Farsley abt 1845 Harriet Ross <<40>> Hainsworth Ross M Son 4 Scholar Yorkshire Farsley abt 1847 Hainesworth Ross <<40>> Emma Ross F Daur 2 Yorkshire Farsley abt 1849 Emma Ross <40> 1871 census: Township: Calverley with Farsley Village: Farsley Local Board: Farsley Local Board Ecclesiastical District: St Johns Farsley Address: Hainswirth Sq Name Rel. M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace Isaac Ross Head Widw 65 Tea Dealer Stanningley Emma Ross Daur Unm 21 Grocer Farsley Source Information: PRO reference: RG10/4505 County: Yorkshire Registration district: Bradford Sub-registration district: Calverley ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Folio: 128 Page: 22 Household schedule number: 116 Greville (18/09/2003): I also have the Birth cert and Death cert for Hainsworth Ross. It confirms he was a Boy (remember we couldn't be sure!). Father: Isaac Ross Mother: Maria Ross, formerly Hainsworth. (Now there's a surprise!!) However - the dates don't quite tally with the family bible (Karen's) dates. Birth cert shows 21st May 1846 - and not 3rd June. (Interestingly the birth was registered on 4th June - perhaps there was a misunderstanding way, way back). And the Death cert shows 12th May 1861, aged 14 - bible shows right date but 1860 and aged 13 !!!!) Rather odd. http://www.calverley.info/fars_bap_2.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Page Surname Name Died Age Born Relationship Relation Comments 127 Ross Isaac 1873 07 13 66 Husband of Maria 127 Ross Israel 1911 01 13 72 Son of Isaac & Maria 127 Ross Maria 1870 04 14 62 Wife of Isaac ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /=============================================================================/ ID: <44> Status: D Name: \Hilda Glover\ Grandpa'a mother Gender: F Gen: -3 Position: 0001 Born: 22/05/1886, Beighton, Derbyshire [birth certificate] c1886, Beighton, Derbyshire [1891C] c1887, Beighton, Derbyshire [1901C] Married: 19/04/1908, Beighton, Sheffield, Yorkshire [cert] Died: About 1957, 19 High Street, Beighton, Derbyshire [obituary news clipping stating she died aged 71 at home] Partner: <45> Child: <7> Father: <56> Mother: <57> Sibling: \Francis Williamson Glover:c1899:1918\, born c1899, Beighton, Yorkshire [1901C], died 1918(?) [bedgreave doc?] "[Mary Fairburn] reared ponies and showed them locally. Francis (Frank) used to ride Jonny the grey pony in processions and carnivals in fancy dress at Whitsuntide in the village. Mr and Mrs Glover used to visit Bedgreave in their pony tub [?] or trap with a grey horse Birdie. Frank was killed in the 1914-18 war just before the armistice." [bedgreave doc] Aged 2 in 1901, Beighton, Derbyshire [1901C], so born c1899. Aged 12 in 1911; born c1899, Beighton, Derbyshire; attending school; living with parents Williamson and Mary at the George & Dragon, Beighton, Sheffield. Died 23/10/1918, aged 19 (so born c1899), serving in France in WW1 [CWGC] According to CWGC: Service number 39356, a Private in the 1st Battalion of the East Yorkshire Regiment. Son of Williamson and Mary Glover, of The George and Dragon, Beighton, Sheffield. Buried in Awoingt British Cemetery, Awoingt, Cambrai, Nord locality, France. Grave/Memorial Reference: I. C. 12 (Plot 1, Row C, Grave 12 - see map of Awoingt British Cemetery) "Awoingt is a village some 3 kilometres east-south-east of Cambrai and a little south of the main straight road, the N43, from Cambrai to Le Cateau. Travel along the N43 to the roundabout at the junction of this road and the D157. At this junction is the first sign for the Cemetery. Turn right along the D157 and travel approximately 300 metres then turn left along a narrow road. The Cemetery lies 125 metres along this road on the left." The Armistice was signed on 11/11/1918, only 20 days after Francis died. \Anne (Annie) Glover:1890:1977\ _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Born c1890, Beighton, Sheffield, Yorkshire [1891C] "Annie married Mr Purley." [bedgreave doc] 10 months old at the time of the 1891 census (Approx. April 1891), and so born approx. June 1890, in Beighton, Derbyshire [1891C] Aged 10 in 1901, born c1891, Beighton, Derbyshire [1901C] She married \Samuel Purdy:c1890\ (in 1910) [bedgreave doc] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Children: \John Purdy:1911:1984\ (1911-1984) [bedgreave doc] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ John married \Doris Rushby:c1911\ [bedgreave doc] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Children: \Joan Purdy\ [bedgreave doc] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \Jennifer Purdy\ [bedgreave doc] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \Evelyn Purdy:1913:1951\ (1913-1951) [bedgreave doc] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Married \Jermin Smith Haslam:c1913\ [bedgreave doc] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Children: \John Haslam:1930\ (1930) [bedgreave doc] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \Mary Purdy:1916:1985\ (1916-1985) [bedgreave doc] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Married \Richard Topley:c1916\ [bedgreave doc] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Children: \Frank Topley\ [bedgreave doc] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \Stephen Topley\ [bedgreave doc] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \Frank Purdy:1918:1982\ (1918-1982) [bedgreave doc] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Married \Elsie Durbar:c1918\ [bedgreave doc] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Children: _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \Brian Purdy\ [bedgreave doc] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \Barry Purdy\ [bedgreave doc] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \Roy Purdy\ [bedgreave doc] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \Doris Purdy:1919\ (1919) [bedgreave doc] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Married \Ronald Allison Clarke:c1919\ [bedgreave doc] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Children: \Anne Clarke\ [bedgreave doc] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \Janet Clarke\ [bedgreave doc] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Notes: Hilda Glovers <44> birth certificate: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Rotherham 1886 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Beighton in the Counties of Derby and York. No. When/Where Born Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When Reg. Registar 287 Twenty Second May 1886 Hilda Girl Williamson Mary Glover Corn Miller W.Glover Twenty Sixth Thomas South Beighton Derby RSD(?) Glover formerly Fairburn (Journeyman) Father June 1886 Registar Beighton --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Ward <45> and Hilda Glover's <44> marriage certificate - transcribed from scan of the cert given me by Dad <3> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1908 Marriage solumnized at St. Mary's Church in the Parish of Beighton in the County of Derby No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 206 April 19th 1908 John Ward 24 Bachelor Joiner Beighton Arthur Ward Pig Dealer Hilda Glover 21 Spinster Beighton Williamson Glover Collier Married in the Church of St. Mary according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after banns by me (sig) R. Steward Hare This Marriage in the was solumnized (sig) John Ward Presence (sig) Williamson Glover between us (sig) Hilda Glover of us (sig) Annie Glover ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Obituary in newspaper (newspaper unknown, date unknown) : "Born and bred in Beighton, where she was a keen member of the Parish Church, Mrs. Hilda Ward (71), of 19, High Street, Beighton, died at her home on Wednesday after being an in-patient at Sheffield Hospital. She leaves a widower, Mr. John Ward, four sons and three daughters, and six grand-children. Mr. Ward has worked as a joiner at Brookhouse Coke Ovens for over 40 years. The Vicar of Beighton, the Rev. W. G. Potts, will conduct the funeral service at Beighton Parish Church this morning and interment will then take place in the church-yard." [An age of 71 would give a year of death of about 1957. John <45> died in 1968, so he would have survived her as a widower. Can't yet find any matching death reference in GRO index in years 1956-1958.] 1911 Census - John Ward, Hilda Ward (Hilda Glover), children Mary Ward, Arthur Ward --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN21131 RG78PN1259 RD438 SD4 ED1 SN238 Schedule Number: 238 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Derbyshire District: Chesterfield Subdistrict: Eckington Enumeration District: 1 Parish: Beighton -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Ward Head M 26 Married Three Two Two None Joiner Builder Worker Derby c1885 <45> Hilda Ward Wife F 24 Married Three Beighton Derbyshire c1887 Hilda Glover <44> Mary Ward Daughter F 2 years Beighton Derbyshire c1909 <<7>> Arthur Ward Son M 8 mths Beighton Derbyshire c1910 <<7>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 4 Signature (sig) John Ward Postal Address High Street, Beighton, nr Sheffield --------------------------------------------------------- 1891 Census: Glover, Williamson Relationship: Head County: Derbyshire Age: 29 Civil Parish: Beighton Gender: Male ED: 1 Where Born: Derbyshire, Chesterfield Eccl. Parish: St Mary Piece: RG12/3844 Town: Beighton Folio: 24 Page: 41 Civil parish: Beighton Town: Beighton Rural sanitary district: Rotherham Parliamentary borough: N. Derbyshire Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Administrative county: Derby Page 41 schedule 219: Main Rd Name Relation M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace Williamson Glover Head M 29 Miller Chesterfield, Derbyshire Mary Glover Wife M 25 Woodhouse, Yorkshire Hilda Glover Daur 4 Beighton, Derbyshire Annie Glover Daur 10m Beighton, Derbyshire James _ Waddington Boarder S 21 Clerk Retford, Nottinghamshire Connected to Bedgreave Mill. John Wards <7> birth certificate in 1913 says he was born at 85 High Street, Beighton, the family home of parents John Ward <45> and Hilda Glover <44>. John Ward senior <45> is described as a "Joiner (Journeyman)". Bedgreave document (on Williamson and Mary Fairburn) : "Williamson Glover married Mary Fairburn (Polly) - his cousin. He worked as a corn miller at Joey Glovers Mill in Beighton (see figs 8 and 10) with his father. Polly's sister Eleanor was married to the Licensee of the George and Dragon Hotel, Beighton, a Mr Harry Hutton. When they left to take the Marquis of Granby at Bamford Derbyshire, Williamson and Polly took the 'George' (see fig 11). They had 3 children, Hilda, Annie and Francis Williamson. Polly reared ponies and showed them locally. Francis (Frank) used to ride Jonny the grey pony in processions and carnivals in fancy dress at Whitsuntide in the village. Mr and Mrs Glover used to visit Bedgreave in their pony tub [?] or trap with a grey horse Birdie. Frank was killed in the 1914-18 war just before the armistice. Hilda Glover married John Ward a joiner at the 'Salt house' making ammonium sulphate for export during 1914-18 war. He was an athlete and footballer who lived with relatives in Woodhouse. There is a road named after him." "When Williamson died Polly kept the 'George'. During the 2nd W.War a land mine dropped near the railway and River Rother. It blasted the front of the Hotel breaking windows, shredding curtains and damaging the interior - bottles of spirit were untouched but the shock killed Polly 2 weeks later. It was said a direct hit on the railway would have wiped out the village. Annie married Mr Purley." Bedgreave document (on Hilda Glover and John Ward) : "Hilda Glover married John Ward a joiner at the 'Salt house' making ammonium sulphate for export during 1914-18 war. He was an athlete and footballer who lived with relatives in Woodhouse. There is a road named after him." Hilda's mother was Mary Fairburn <57> who died in 1941. Father was Williamson Glover <56>, who lived 1861 to 1933. 1837online.com births search for Hilda Glover (23/10/2003) : [born 1886 according to Bedgreave document, and aged 4 in 1891 according to 1891 census] Mar 1885 GLO/1 -- Jun 1885 GLO/1 -- Sep 1885 GLO/2 -- Dec 1885 GLO/1 -- Mar 1886 GLO/2 GLOVER, Hilda Maude, King's N., 6c/467 Jun 1886 GLO/2 GLOVER, Hilda, Prescot, 8b/733 GLOVER, Hilda, Rotherham, 9c/596 ******************** Sep 1886 GLO/2 -- Dec 1886 GLO/2 -- Mar 1887 GLO/1 GLOVER, Hilda, Chorlton, 8c/868 {had to disable firewall} Jun 1887 GLO/1 GLOVER, Hilda Kate, Newent, 6a/274 Sep 1887 GLO/1 -- Dec 1887 GLO/1 -- GRO birth index: Quarter: Jun 1886 Name: Hilda Glover Mothers maiden name: ??? District: Rotherham Vol/Page: 9c/596 Researched: 23/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 27/10/2003. Received 05/11/2003. 1837online.com births search for Annie Glover (23/10/2003) : [you know from the 1891 census she was 10 months old in approx. April 1891, and must thus have been born approx. June-July 1890] Jun 1890 GLO/1 GLOVER, Annie, 'Bradford, Y'., 9b/251 GLOVER, Annie, Rotherham, 9c/576 ******************** GLOVER, Annie May, Prescot, 8b/768 Sep 1890 GLO/1 GLOVER, Ann, Barnsley, 9c/250 GLOVER, Ann, Wigan, 8c/157 GLOVER, Annie Kate, Romesy (Romery?), 2c/78 GRO birth index: Quarter: Jun 1890 Name: Annie Glover Mothers maiden name: ??? District: Rotherham Vol/Page: 9c/576 Researched: 23/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 27/10/2003. Received 06/11/2003. Annie Glovers <<44>> birth certificate: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Rotherham 1890 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Beighton in the Counties of Derby and York No. When/Where Born Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When Reg. Registar 5 Eighteenth May 1890 Annie Girl Williamson Mary Glover Miller Williamson Glover Twenty Eighth Thomas South Manvers Road, Beighton Glover formerly Fairburn (Journeyman) Father June 1890 Registar Beighton Derby Manvers Road Beighton --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1837online.com deaths search for Francis Williamson Glover (23/10/2003) : Mar 1918 GLO/2/1 GLOVER, Frances, age 0 {zero}, Mansfield, 7b/164 Jun 1918 GLO/1 GLOVER, Francis W., age 21, Chester, 8a/434 ????????????????????? Sep 1918 GLO/1 GLOVER, Frances M. (W? N?), age 16, Leicester, 7a/195 Dec 1918 GLO/1 GLOVER, Frances W. (N?), age 25, Prescot, 8b{6b?)/1390 GRO death index: Quarter: Jun 1918 Name: Francis W. Glover Age/DOB: 21 District: Chester Vol/Page: 8a/434 Researched: 23/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 27/10/2003. Received 05/11/2003. 1837online.com marriages search for Hilda Glover <44> and John Ward <45> (25/10/2003) : [assumed to be between 1900-1910 for purposes of this search] Mar 1900 GLO/1 -- Jun 1900 GLO/1 -- Sep 1900 GLO/1 -- Dec 1900 GLO/2 -- Mar 1901 GLO/2 -- Jun 1901 GLO/1 -- Sep 1901 GLO/1 -- {{had to disable firewall}} Dec 1901 GLO/1 -- Mar 1902 GLO/1 -- Jun 1902 GLO/1 -- Sep 1902 GLO/1 -- Dec 1902 GLO/1 -- Mar 1903 GLO/1 -- Jun 1903 GLO/1 -- Sep 1903 GLO/2 -- Dec 1903 GLO/1 -- Mar 1904 GLO/1 -- Jun 1904 GLO/1 Hilda Kate Glover, Newent, 6a/637 Sep 1904 GLO/1&2 -- Dec 1904 GLO/1 -- Mar 1905 GLO/1 -- Jun 1905 GLO/1 -- Sep 1905 GLO/1 Hilda Marion Glover, Dewsbury, 9b/1299 Dec 1905 GLO/1 -- Mar 1906 GLO/1 -- Jun 1906 GLO/1 -- Sep 1906 GLO/1 -- Dec 1906 GLO/1 -- Mar 1907 GLO/1 -- Jun 1907 GLO/1&2 -- Sep 1907 GLO/1 -- Dec 1907 GLO/1 -- Mar 1908 GLO/1 -- Jun 1908 GLO/1&2 -- Sep 1908 GLO/1 -- Dec 1908 GLO/1&2 -- Mar 1909 GLO/1 -- Jun 1909 GLO/1 -- Sep 1909 GLO/1 -- Dec 1909 GLO/1 -- Mar 1910 GLO/1&2 -- Jun 1910 GLO/1 -- Sep 1910 GLO/1 -- Dec 1910 GLO/1&2 -- -- From Christine (11/04/2004) : Marriage 19/04/1908, Beighton John Ward ; Father: Arthur Ward (pig dealer) Hilda Glover ; resident in Beighton ; Father: Williamson Glover (collier) Witnesses: Annie Glover, Williamson Glover -- 1901 census: ---- PRO Reference Schedule Number: RG Number Series Piece Folio Page RG13 3259 100 38 180 Address High St Civil Parish Beighton Rural District -- Town or Village or Hamlet Beighton Parliamentary Borough or Division North Eastern Ecclesiastical Parish Beighton Administrative County Derby County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District -- Ward of Municipal Borough or Urban District -- -- William Glover Relation to Head of Family Head Condition as to Marriage M Age Last Birthday 39 Sex M Profession or Occupation Coal Miner Filler Employment Status Worker Where Born Derbys Brampton Language -- Infirmity -- -- Mary Glover Relation to Head of Family Wife Condition as to Marriage M Age Last Birthday 35 Sex F Profession or Occupation Dressmaker Employment Status Own Account working at home Where Born Yorks Woodhouse Language -- Infirmity -- -- Hilda Glover Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage -- Age Last Birthday 14 Sex F Profession or Occupation School Employment Status Undefined Where Born Derby Beighton Language -- Infirmity -- -- Annie Glover Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage -- Age Last Birthday 10 Sex F Profession or Occupation School Employment Status Undefined Where Born Derby Beighton Language -- Infirmity -- -- Francis W Glover Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage -- Age Last Birthday 2 Sex M Profession or Occupation -- Employment Status Undefined Where Born Derby Beighton Language -- Infirmity -- ---- 1911 Census - Williamson Glover (1828) and Mary (Polly), with son Francis --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN21131 RG78PN1259 RD438 SD4 ED1 SN240 Schedule Number: 240 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Derbyshire District: Chesterfield Subdistrict: Eckington Enumeration District: 1 Parish: Beighton -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Williamson Glover Head M 49 Married 5 3 2 Publican George & Dragon Inn Brampton Derbys c1862 <56> Mary Glover Wife F 45 Married 25 Woodhouse Derbys c1866 Mary Fairburn <57> Francis W Glover Son M 12 School Beighton Derbys c1899 <<44>> Phoebe Hall Servant F 17 Single General Servant Domestic Woodhouse Derbys c1894 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 8 Signature (sig) Williamson Glover Postal Address George & Dragon, Beighton, Sheffield --------------------------------------------------------- --- Records from Commonwelath War Graves Commission on Francis Williamson Glover: Name: GLOVER, FRANCIS WILLIAMSON Initials: F W Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: East Yorkshire Regiment Unit Text: 1st Bn. Age: 19 Date of Death: 23/10/1918 Service No: 39356 Additional information: Son of Williamson and Mary Glover, of The George and Dragon, Beighton, Sheffield. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: I. C. 12. Cemetery: AWOINGT BRITISH CEMETERY "In Memory of Private FRANCIS WILLIAMSON GLOVER 39356, 1st Bn., East Yorkshire Regiment who died age 19 on 23 October 1918 Son of Williamson and Mary Glover, of The George and Dragon, Beighton, Sheffield. Remembered with honour AWOINGT BRITISH CEMETERY Commemorated in perpetuity by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission" Cemetery Details Cemetery: AWOINGT BRITISH CEMETERY Country: France Locality: Nord Location Information: Awoingt is a village some 3 kilometres east-south-east of Cambrai and a little south of the main straight road, the N43, from Cambrai to Le Cateau. Travel along the N43 to the roundabout at the junction of this road and the D157. At this junction is the first sign for the Cemetery. Turn right along the D157 and travel approximately 300 metres then turn left along a narrow road. The Cemetery lies 125 metres along this road on the left. Historical Information: Awoingt British Cemetery was begun in the latter half of October 1918 and used until the middle of December; the village had been captured on 9/10 October. By 28 October, the 38th, 45th and 59th Casualty Clearing Stations were posted in the neighbourhood, and the great majority of the burials were made from those hospitals, but 16 graves in Plot III, Row H, and Plot V, were brought in after the Armistice from the country immediately surrounding the village. Awoingt British Cemetery contains 653 Commonwealth burials and commemorations of the First World War, including a special memorial to one casualty whose grave in the cemetery cannot now be found. The cemetery also contains 63 war graves of other nationalities, most of them German. No. of Identified Casualties: 714 This figure includes Foreign and Non-World War graves in CWGC care Three days later, on 26/10/1918, died F. Spencer of the same regiment and battalion, also buried in Awoingt. Name: SPENCER Initials: F Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: East Yorkshire Regiment Unit Text: 1st Bn. Date of Death: 26/10/1918 Service No: 52156 Additional information: Son of Mr. P. Spencer, of 5, Blue Hill, Bentholme, Bradford, Yorks. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: I. G. 8. Cemetery: AWOINGT BRITISH CEMETERY No others of the East Yorkshire Regiment are recorded in the CWGC database as buried in Awoingt. --- /=============================================================================/ ID: <45> Status: D Name: \John Ward\ Grandpa's father Also called _Jack_ [1891C] Gender: M Gen: -3 Position: 0000 Born: 01/01/1884, 7 Traffic St, Derby Aged 6 in 1891, born Derby, where he is recorded as _Jack_ [1891C] So was grandpa John <7>, so I think this "ran in the family". Married: 19/04/1908, Beighton [cert] Died: 30/11/1968, 19 High Street, Beighton 1968, 19 High st, Beighton [Auntie Hilda] Funeral was 04/12/1968 [Auntie Hilda] Partner: <44> Child: <7> Father: <90> Mother: <91> Sibling: \Arthur Ward:c1872\, born c1872, Derby [1881C, 1891C] Aged 9 in 1881, born Derby; living at 65 Rivett St, Derby St Peter, Derby [1881C] Aged 20 in 1891, single, General Laborer, born Derby; living at 52 Liddals Rd, Derby [1891C] Incorrect birth ref: Arthur Ward, Dec 1872, Derby, 7b/454 [FreeBMD, image, cert] Possible birth ref: Arthur Ward, Mar 1872, Ecclesall, 9c/273 [FreeBMD, image] Though Ecclesall (near Sheffield) seems a little far away from Derby! Possibly also... Births Mar 1873 Ward Arthur Ecclesall 9c 291 Ward Arthur Ecclesall 9c 305 ...from FreeBMD. \Fanny Matilda Ward:1875\, born 05/03/1875, 13 Waterloo Street, Derby [cert] Aged 6 in 1881, so born c1865; born Derby; living at 65 Rivett St, Derby St Peter, Derby [1881C] Aged 16 in 1891, so born c1875; single, General Servant, born Derby; living at 52 Liddals Rd, Derby [1891C] Birth ref: Fanny Ward, Mar 1875, Derby, 7b/511 [FreeBMD, image] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Derby 1875 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Derby in the County of Derby No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 481 Fifth March 1875 Fanny Girl Arthur Ward Phoebe Ward Cattle Dealer P Ward Twenty Sixth Caleb Birt 13 Waterloo Street Matilda formerly Fox Mother March 1875 Cuppleditch 13 Waterloo Street Registrar Derby ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- \Elizabeth Ward:1877:1909\ Born 05/12/1877, 7 Traffic Street, Derby [cert] Died aged 31 in 1909 as a paraplegic [PL] 1881 census says she was aged 3 in 1881, so born c1878; born Derby; living at 65 Rivett St, Derby St Peter, Derby [1881C] Could not find her in 1891. 1901 census says she was aged 22 in 1901, so born c1879; born Derbyshire (census says 'Derby'); living at 53 Weymouth St, Leicester formerly St Margaret, Leicestershire; married to Michael Mooney; marked as 'deaf and dumb/blind/lunatic/imbecile'! [1901C] This confirms what Hilda <<7>> said about Elizabeth being called 'Mrs Moony'. Birth ref: Elizabeth Ward, Mar 1878, Derby, 7b/470 [FreeBMD, image] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Derby 1878 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Derby in the County of Derby No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 243 Fifth December 1877 Elizabeth Girl Arthur Ward Phoebe Ward Butcher Phoebe Ward Fifteenth Caleb Birt 7 Traffic Street formerly Fox Mother January 1878 Cuppleditch 7 Traffic Street Registrar Derby ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Married \Michael Mooney:c1876:1934\ on 09/03/1896, Leicester [cert] Marriage Ref: Michael Mooney, Elizabeth Ward, Mar 1896, Leicester, 7a/364 [found on freebmd, confirmed on image] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1896 Marriage solumnized at The Register Office in the District of Leicester in the County Borough of Leicester No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 11 Ninth March 1896 Michael Mooney 20 years Bachelor Show Clicker 3 Cromwell Street, Leicester Michael Mooney, deceased Collier Elizabeth Ward 19 years Spinster 3 Cromwell Street, Leicester Arthur Ward, deceased Pig Dealer Married in the Register Office by Certificate before me (sig) William C. Harris Registrar This Marriage in the Thomas Smith Superindentent Registrar was solumnized (sig) Michael Mooney Presence (sig) Arthur Ward between us (sig) Elizabeth Ward of us (sig) Susan Luscilla Hutt ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael was born c1876, Walsall, Staffordshire [1881C,1891C,1901C] Michael was 25 in 1901, born c1876, Walsall, Staffordshire; a 'Shoe(?) Clicker Booter'; living at 53 Weymouth St, Leicester (formerly St Margaret), Leicestershire; marked as 'deaf and dumb/blind/lunatic/imbecile'! [1901C] Michael was 15 in 1891, born c1876, Walsall, Staffs; a 'Printers Apprentice'; a boarder at 5 Stoughton Street, Leicester (boarding with William Burnham) [1891C] Michael was 5 in 1881, born c1876, Walsall; attending school; living with \Michael Moony:c1828\, who is a married 53 year old General Labourer in the same household born in Ireland (his father - confirmed on marriage cert); both are boarding at 94 Lrn(Lower?) Rushall St, Walsall, Staffordshire [1881C] He had children by at least four women. [PL] Michael died 1934 [PL] Found Michael senior (of 1828) in 1871, 1861, 1851 - details available on request. Can't find Michael senior (of 1828) in 1841 - so came to England in the mid 1840's? In 1851, he and other Mooney's of similar age (his siblings?) are lodging with a large number of other Irish people in Sheffield - possibly this group of Irish people travelled to England together. Children: \George Arthur Mooney\ Born 1896, died 1896 [PL] - apparently died as a child \Arthur James Mooney:c1898\, aged 3 in 1901, born c1898, Leicester, Leicestershire [1901C] Named as 'Arthur J Mooney' in the 1901 census Middle name 'James' [SN] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \Dora Mooney:c1899\ (daughter), aged 2 in 1901, born c1899, Leicester, Leicestershire [1901C] Born c1899 \Martin Mooney:1900:1936\, aged 5 months in March-April 1901 (therefore born in 1900), born 1900, Leicester, Leicestershire [1901C] Born 1900 [PL] Died 1936 [PL] \Clara Hilda Mooney:1902:c1976\ Born 1902 [PL] Died c1976 [PL] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \Gladys Mary Mooney:1905:1906\ Born 1905 [PL] Died 1906 [PL] \John Mooney:1906:1965\ Born 1906 [PL] Died 1965 [PL] \Joseph Albert Mooney:1908:1985\ Born 1908 [PL] Died 1985 [PL] After Elizabeths death in 1909, Michael married Matilda, who had been living with Elizabeth and Michael since she was a teenager. He married Matilda in 1912. [PL] See Matilda (below) for children by Matilda. _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \Matilda Ward:c1882\ 1891 census says she was aged 11 in 1891, born c1880, Derby; living at 52 Liddals Rd, Derby [1891C] The 1891 data actually calls her _Tilly_, which Auntie Hilda <<7>> confirms was a name also used for her. 1901 census says she was aged 19 in 1901, born c1882, Derbyshire (census says 'Derby'); 'Hosiery Hand (Cardigan)'; living at 53 Weymouth St, Leicester (formerly St Margaret), Leicestershire; marked as 'deaf and dumb/blind/lunatic/imbecile'! [1901C] The 1901 data calls her _Wardle_. She is living with sister Elizabeth and Liz's husband Michael Mooney in 1901 ('since she was a teenager' [PL]). After wife Elizabeth (and sister of Matilda) died in 1909, Michael Mooney married Matilda. He married Matilda in 1912. [PL] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Notes: Recorded on marriage certificate of Kathleen and John (<6> and <7>) as the father of John <7>, and as a Joiner. John Wards <7> birth certificate in 1913 says he was born at 85 High Street, Beighton, the family home of parents John Ward <45> and Hilda Glover <44>. John Ward senior <45> is described as a "Joiner (Journeyman)". John Wards <45> birth certificate: Birth ref: John Ward, Mar 1884, Derby, 7b/564 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT DERBY 1884 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Derby in the Derby No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 352 First January 1884 John Boy Arthur Ward Phoebe Ward Butcher Phoebe Ward Eleventh February Caleb Bin[___] 7 Traffic Street formerly Fox Mother 1884 Cup _ Cedri[___] 7 Traffic Street Derby ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Ward <45> and Hilda Glover's <44> marriage certificate - transcribed from scan of the cert given me by Dad <3> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1908 Marriage solumnized at St. Mary's Church in the Parish of Beighton in the County of Derby No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 206 April 19th 1908 John Ward 24 Bachelor Joiner Beighton Arthur Ward Pig Dealer Hilda Glover 21 Spinster Beighton Williamson Glover Collier Married in the Church of St. Mary according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after banns by me (sig) R. Steward Hare This Marriage in the was solumnized (sig) John Ward Presence (sig) Williamson Glover between us (sig) Hilda Glover of us (sig) Annie Glover ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Derby Registration County : Derbyshire. Created : 1.7.1837. Sub-districts : Derby; Osmaston; St. Alkmund; St. Peter. GRO volumes : XIX (1837-51); 7b (1852-1930). Parishes in Derbyshire (1837-1930): Darley Abbey, Derby, Litchurch, Little Chester, New Normanton (from 1890), Rowditch (from 1890). Registers now in Derby district. ---- Ecclesall Bierlow Registration County : Yorkshire West Riding. Created : 1.7.1837. Abolished : 1.4.1935 (succeeded by Sheffield and Chesterfield districts). Sub-districts : Bramhall; Dore; Ecclesall Bierlow; Ecclesall Central; Ecclesall North; Ecclesall South; Ecclesall West; Nether Hallam; Norton; Sharrow; Upper Hallam. GRO volumes : XXII (1837-51); 9c (1852-1935). Township/Parish County From To Notes Beauchief DBY 1837 1935 Dore DBY 1837 1934 after 1934 see Sheffield Ecclesall WRY 1904 1934 before 1904 see Ecclesall Bierlow; Heeley; Nether Hallam; Upper Hallam; Norton Within / after 1934 see Sheffield Ecclesall Bierlow WRY 1837 1904 after 1904 see Ecclesall Heeley WRY 1837 1904 after 1904 see Ecclesall Nether Hallam WRY 1837 1904 after 1904 see Ecclesall Norton DBY 1837 1934 after 1934 see Sheffield WRY; Coal Aston (in Chesterfield district) Norton Within WRY 1901 1904 before 1901 see Beauchief DBY; Norton DBY / after 1904 see Ecclesall Sheffield (part) WRY 1934 1935 before 1934 see Ecclesall; Beauchief DBY; Dore DBY; Norton DBY; Totley DBY Totley DBY 1837 1934 after 1934 see Sheffield WRY; Holmesfield (in Chesterfield district) Upper Hallam WRY 1837 1904 after 1904 see Ecclesall Registers now in Sheffield district. ---- John Wards <45> death certificate - transcribed from scan of the cert given me by Dad <3> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT SHEFFIELD 1968 DEATH in the Sub-district of SHEFFIELD in the COUNTY BOROUGH OF SHEFFIELD No. When/where Name Sex Age Occupation Cause of death Informant When reg. Registrar 491 Thirtieth November 1968 John Ward Male 84 Coke and Ia. Uraemia Hilda Ward Second December 19 High Street Years Chemicals Maker b. Chronic retention Daughter 1968 Maintenance of urine Present at the death Joiner (Retired) c. Carcinoma of prostate 19 High Street Certified by J.Banner MB Beighton Sheffield I, MICHAEL RIGBY, Registrar of Births and Deaths for the Sub-district of SHEFFIELD, in the COUNTY BOROUGH OF SHEFFIELD, do formally certify that this is a true copy of Entry No. 491 in the Register Book of Deaths for the said Sub-district, and that Such Register Book is now legally in my custody. Witness my hand this 2nd day of December, 1968 (sig) M.Rigby Registrar of Births and Deaths ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bedgreave document (on Hilda Glover and John Ward) : "Hilda Glover married John Ward a joiner at the 'Salt house' making ammonium sulphate for export during 1914-18 war. He was an athlete and footballer who lived with relatives in Woodhouse. There is a road named after him." I think the road that was aledgedly named after him is John Ward Street, in Woodhouse, South Yorkshire. It's not far from the River Rother, Woodhouse station, and Woodhouse Mill judging from the map. It is yet unproven whether it was or was not actually named after him. Obituary of Hilda Glover <44> in newspaper (newspaper unknown, date unknown) : "Born and bred in Beighton, where she was a keen member of the Parish Church, Mrs. Hilda Ward (71), of 19, High Street, Beighton, died at her home on Wednesday after being an in-patient at Sheffield Hospital. She leaves a widower, Mr. John Ward, four sons and three daughters, and six grand-children. Mr. Ward has worked as a joiner at Brookhouse Coke Ovens for over 40 years. The Vicar of Beighton, the Rev. W. G. Potts, will conduct the funeral service at Beighton Parish Church this morning and interment will then take place in the church-yard." [An age of 71 would give her a year of death of about 1957. John <45> died in 1968, so he would have survived her as a widower.] -- According to Auntie Hilda <<7>>: John <45> was born in Derby Lived near Derby station? Mother Phoebe Fox <91> (died when he was 2) Father Arthur <90> (died when he was 5) Went to derby - something to do with pigs - went to Ireland, mugged on the way home Phoebe and Arthur wrote a book on Woodhouse Brought to Beighton to be brought up by his Aunt Eleanor Ward Eleanor's husband was an Undertaker in Beighton Had an uncle (brother?) - Bernard Ward? He married a Russian? -- More from Auntie Hilda <<7>>: Hilda <7> had an Aunt Bessie who died young Hilda <7> had an Aunt Tilly (Elizabeth) who lived in Leicester and who married (after bessie died) They called her "Mrs Moony" (so married a "Mr Moony"?) Hilda <7> had an Aunt Fanny who lived at Derby Eleanor Ward married George Waller (See Arthur Ward <90> for more from Hilda on Bernard) -- -- From Christine (11/04/2004) : Birth 01/01/1884, 7 Traffic St, Derby John Ward district of Derby Father: Arthur Ward, butcher Mother: Phoebe Fox Marriage 19/04/1908, Beighton John Ward ; Father: Arthur Ward (pig dealer) Hilda Glover ; resident in Beighton ; Father: Williamson Glover (collier) Witnesses: Annie Glover, Williamson Glover Death 30/11/1968, 19 High Street, Beighton Occupation: "Coke and chemical maker maintenance and joiner" -- Hilda <<7>> had said about an Eleanor Ward: --- John <45> lived with his aunt Eleanor Ward after Phoebe <91> died when John <45> was 2 years old. [Hilda <<7>>] Lived in Beighton. [Hilda <<7>>] Married George Waller, an undertaker and joiner in Beighton [Hilda <<7>>] --- John, it seems did indeed live with George Waller <<68>>, but George was married to Charlotte Ward <68>, not Eleanor, and Charlotte was not Johns <45> literal 'aunt' but seems to have been Arthurs <90> cousin. In 1912, Bernard Ward <<90>> wrote a letter (on paper headed "Bernard Ward", "BERNARD WARD, HOG SALESMAN, 26, CHARNWOOD STREET, DERBY.") dated 12/06/1912 to 'Jack' (actually John <45>). It contains a statement that 'Jack' is married, and an implication that 'Jack' has a nine month old daughter: "glad to hear that you are happily married + comfortable. she is a bonny girl of nine months. should think you are both proud of her" It refers to an 'Arthur', probably 'Jacks' *brother* (Arthur <<45>>), and _not_ his father. Implication Arthur worked for Bernard <<90>> before the letter was written "I am sorry to tell you Arthur has not worked for us some time now." Implication Arthur was married: "his wife" ie. Arthurs wife "I understand his wife was very respectable but the last I heard about her was not much good, I don't know if Arthurs conduct has altered her it may have" "he has been in jail I think twice in Leicester + whilst he was in I sent his wife 10/ per week" Arthur was in an accident when young. "you know when a boy he was nearly killed crushed to pulp + his brain could be seen through his skull, he was practtically first[?] some as if he had been through a trample, he know this + still takes drink ..." Arthur lived in Leicester and Derby, and was frequently drunk (and jailed) "[Arthur] is alright if he left drink alone ... I tried Arthur here + he had a season ticket to Leicester but he kept getting drunk, he ____ abt £11 for 2 pigs[?] got drunk assaulted ticket collector (of[at?] Derby) was fined + lost the money ___ (I think) 3/10/0 he was very sorry I[+?] promised most faithfully not to take any drink[?] but be strict T.T. I heard of him in Leicester ten days after being very drunk but kept him on some months hoping he would alter until I found him helpless in one of the pig places could not get on his legs, so I finished with him he has been in jail I think twice in Leicester + whilst he was in I sent his wife 10/ per week, he looked very bad[?] when he came out+ I assisted him a little + only a fortnight since my son from Canada wanted us to take him on again but eldest son said he would not have it again, + last wed I heard he is in jail again for throwing ___ of water over his mother in law, so he must have started drinking again, Its a great pity he should never take a drop ... still takes drink, it sends him mad ... I should not send [money] to Arthur to be spent in drink ... I should not send Arthur of your hard earned money, but if you could get him work away from Leicester or Derby + keep him T T [?] it might be his last chance, when he left Derby I thought he was leaving bad company but he got worse once in Leicester a lot of getting welshers[?] no good to himself[?] or anyone he would be best ___ away from them, he is weak + easily led" It also mentions "Mrs Waller" "PS. I did not know where Pasbly[?] was should think he will be alright building at Aston remember me to Mrs Waller." This is probably Charlotte Ward who married George Waller. For a while I had thought John Ward (Bernards nephew) had lived with 'aunt' Eleanor and George Waller, in which case calling her 'Mrs Waller' and not 'Eleanor' seemed strange. Charlotte Ward is in fact a more distant member of the Ward clan (if related at all) and so calling her 'Mrs Waller' makes more sense. Phoebe <91> and Arthur <90> in 1881 : Household: Name Relation M.Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Arthur WARD Head M Male 30 Woodhouse Sheffield Cattle Dealer Pheobe WARD Wife M Female 29 Derby Arthur WARD Son Male 9 Derby Scholar Fanny WARD Son Female 6 Derby Scholar Elizabeth WARD Daur Female 3 Derby Eliza BAKER Neice Female 10 Derby Scholar Source Information: Dwelling 65 Rivett St Census Place Derby St Peter, Derby, England Family History Library Film 1341811 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3394 / 39 Page Number 25 There is no mention of any matching Phoebe Ward aged approx. 39 in the 1891 census, supporting a view that if John was born after the 1881 census that Phoebe died before the 10 years was up. The corresponding census entry for Arthur <90> in 1891 is: Civil parish: St Peters Municipal borough: Derby Municipal ward: Castle Urban sanitary district: Derby Parliamentary borough or division: Derby Eccliastical parish or district: St Peters Address: 52 Liddals Rd Household: Arthur Ward, Head, Wid, 39, Cattle Dealer, Derby Arthur Ward, Son, S, 20, General Laborer [sic], Derby Fanny Ward, Daur, S, 16, General Servant, Derby Tilly Ward, Daur, , 11, Scholar, Derby Jack Ward, Son, , 6, Scholar, Derby It certainly matches the 1881 data closely enough, and is consistent with Phoebe's <91> death in 1886. "Jack" is in fact John <45>. The age information for Elizabeth differs between the 1881 and 1891. In 1901, this is John <45>, living with George Waller and Charlotte Ward : RG13/3259, page 40 Registration district: Chesterfield Sub-registration district: Eckington ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Folio: 101 Page: 40 Household schedule number: 192 Admin County: Derby Civil parish: Beighton Eccl parish: Beighton Rural District: Chesterfield Parliamentary Division: N E Town/Village/Hamlet: Beighton Address: High Street Household: NAME REL M.ST AGE OCCUPATION EMPL/WKR IF WKG AT HOME BIRTHPLACE George Waller, Head, M, 51, Joiner + Wheelwright, Employer, working at home, Derbys Beighton Charlotte Waller, Wife, M, 51, , , , Yorks Woodhouse Samuel Waller, Son, S, 21, Butcher, Worker, working at home, Derbys Beighton John Ward, Boarder, S, 17, Labourer (General), Worker, , Derbys Derby Frank Waller, Adopted Son, S, 16, Labourer (General), Worker, , Derbys Crick Jessie Gent, Serv't, S, 16, Domestic Servant, Worker, , Derbys Beighton 1911 Census - John Ward, Hilda Ward (Hilda Glover), children Mary Ward, Arthur Ward --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN21131 RG78PN1259 RD438 SD4 ED1 SN238 Schedule Number: 238 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Derbyshire District: Chesterfield Subdistrict: Eckington Enumeration District: 1 Parish: Beighton -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Ward Head M 26 Married Three Two Two None Joiner Builder Worker Derby c1885 <45> Hilda Ward Wife F 24 Married Three Beighton Derbyshire c1887 Hilda Glover <44> Mary Ward Daughter F 2 years Beighton Derbyshire c1909 <<7>> Arthur Ward Son M 8 mths Beighton Derbyshire c1910 <<7>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 4 Signature (sig) John Ward Postal Address High Street, Beighton, nr Sheffield --------------------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Ward <<45>> in 1901 : ---------------------------- Street address: 53 Weymouth St Civil parish: Leicester formerly St Margaret Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark Town: Leicester County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Source information: RG13/2991 Registration district: Leicester Sub-registration district: North West Leicester ED, institution, or vessel: 47 Folio: 52 Page: 35 Household schedule number: 203 Name MF Rel Age Profession Birthplace D/D/B/L/I(@) EstBYear --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Mooney M Head 25 Shoe(?) Clicker Booter Walsall, Staffordshire, England * abt 1876 Elizabeth Mooney F Wife 22 Derbyshire, England * abt 1879 Arthur J Mooney M Son 3 Leicester, Leicestershire, England abt 1898 Dora Mooney F Daur 2 Leicester, Leicestershire, England abt 1899 Martin Mooney M Son 5 months Leicester, Leicestershire, England abt 1900 Matilda Wardle F Sister 19 Hosiery Hand (Cardigan) Derbyshire, England * abt 1882 (@ = Deaf/Dumb/Blind/Lunatic/Imbecile) ---------------------------- Elizabeth <<45>> and Michael Mooney's marriage in FreeBMD: ------------------------ Marriages Mar 1896 BACKES Phillipp Michael Leicester 7a 364 Mooney Michael Leicester 7a 364 Ward Elizabeth Leicester 7a 364 Whapples Alice Leicester 7a 364 ------------------------ Confirmed on image. /=============================================================================/ ID: <46> Status: D Name: \George Shillito Philips\ Gender: M Gen: -4 Position: 01110 Born: c1861, Yorkshire Leeds Married: Approx c1886 based on 25 years married in 1911 [1911C] Married between 1881 and 1901 - George <46> was unmarried in the 1881 census [1881C], but he and Mary <47> were married by the 1901 census [1901C]. Died: ??? Partner: <47> Child: <29> Father: <48> Mother: <49> Sibling: On 03/04/1881: \William PHILLIPS:c1862\ Male 18 Leeds, York, England Brush Maker (born between 04/04/1862 and 03/04/1863) \Albert Edward PHILLIPS:c1864\ Male 16 Leeds, York, England Wood Carver (born between 04/04/1864 and 03/04/1865) \Mary E PHILLIPS:c1866\ Female 14 Leeds, York, England Scholar (born between 04/04/1866 and 03/04/1867) \Elizabeth PHILLIPS:c1868\ Female 12 Leeds, York, England Scholar (born between 04/04/1868 and 03/04/1869) \Benjamin PHILLIPS:c1870\ Male 10 Leeds, York, England Scholar (born between 04/04/1870 and 03/04/1871) _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Notes: 1911 Census - George Shilito Phillips, wife Mary Phillips (nee Mary Stead), children Beatrice May Phillips, George William Phillips, aunt Mary D_bson --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN26039 RG78PN1506 RD491 SD5 ED11 SN1 Schedule Number: 1 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Yorkshire West Riding District: Wharfedale Subdistrict: Yeadon Enumeration District: 11 Parish: Guiseley -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Shilito Phillips Head M 49 Married - - - - Licensed Victualler Own account At Home Yorks Holbeck c1862 <46> Mary Gertie Phillips Wife F 48 Married 25 3 3 - Assisting in the business Own account At Home Yorks Holbeck c1863 Mary Grace Stead <47> Beatrice May Phillips Daughter F 24 Single - - - - Assisting in the business Own account At Home Yorks Horsforth c1887 <29> George William Phillips Son M 20 Single - - - - Clerk Waste Manufacturer Worker Yorks Horsforth c1891 <<29>> Mary D?bson Aunt F 76 Widow - - - - Yorks Holbeck c1835 ???????? Annie Smith Servant F 20 Single - - - - General Servant (Domestic) Yorks Morley c1881 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 7 Signature (sig) G.S.Phillips Postal Address Station Hotel, Guiseley, Yorks --------------------------------------------------------- Who is \Mary D_bson:c1835\ - aunt of George? Is she the sister of father George W Phillips <48> or mother Sarah <49>? From 1901 online census (on 31/03/1901): Beatrice Philips was 14 on 31/03/1901 (so born 1886), born Yorkshire Horsforth Father was George Philips, married (in 1901), 39 on 31/03/1901, Licensed Victualler, employment status "nullworking at home", born Yorkshire Leeds Mother was Mary G Philips, married (in 1901), 38, born Yorkshire Leeds, no occupation recorded in 1901 census Sister: Florence Philips, 13, born Yorkshire Horsforth Brother: George Philips, 11, born Yorkshire Horsforth Servant: Eliza Taylor, 26, born Yorkshire Leeds They lived at the Kings Arms, Horsforth on 31/03/1901 Beatrice married 10 years later, and died a year later following child birth. PRO Reference: RG Number, Series RG13, Piece 4059, Folio 79, Page 9, Schedule Number 52 From 1881 online census (taken 03/04/1881): Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability George W. PHILLIPS Head M Male 43 Leeds, Gloucester, England Railway Foreman Sarah PHILLIPS Wife M Female 48 Leeds, York, England Wife Geo. Shillito PHILLIPS Son U Male 19 Leeds, York, England Lithographer Apprentice William PHILLIPS Son Male 18 Leeds, York, England Brush Maker Albert Edward PHILLIPS Son Male 16 Leeds, York, England Wood Carver Mary E PHILLIPS Daur Female 14 Leeds, York, England Scholar Elizabeth PHILLIPS Daur Female 12 Leeds, York, England Scholar Benjamin PHILLIPS Son Male 10 Leeds, York, England Scholar Source Information: Dwelling 13 Emsley Ter Census Place Hunslet, York, England Family History Library Film 1342076 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4492 / 49 Page Number 2 /=============================================================================/ ID: <47> Status: D Name: \Mary Grace Stead\ Gender: F Gen: -4 Position: 01111 Born: c1862, Yorkshire Leeds Married: Approx c1886 based on 25 years married in 1911 [1911C] Married between 1881 and 1901 - husband George <46> was unmarried in the 1881 census [1881C], but the two were married by the 1901 census [1901C]. Died: ??? Partner: <46> Child: <29> Father: <75> ? Mother: <76> ? Sibling: ??? Notes: 1911 Census - George Shilito Phillips, wife Mary Phillips (nee Mary Stead), children Beatrice May Phillips, George William Phillips, aunt Mary D_bson --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN26039 RG78PN1506 RD491 SD5 ED11 SN1 Schedule Number: 1 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Yorkshire West Riding District: Wharfedale Subdistrict: Yeadon Enumeration District: 11 Parish: Guiseley -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Shilito Phillips Head M 49 Married - - - - Licensed Victualler Own account At Home Yorks Holbeck c1862 <46> Mary Gertie Phillips Wife F 48 Married 25 3 3 - Assisting in the business Own account At Home Yorks Holbeck c1863 Mary Grace Stead <47> Beatrice May Phillips Daughter F 24 Single - - - - Assisting in the business Own account At Home Yorks Horsforth c1887 <29> George William Phillips Son M 20 Single - - - - Clerk Waste Manufacturer Worker Yorks Horsforth c1891 <<29>> Mary D?bson Aunt F 76 Widow - - - - Yorks Holbeck c1835 ???????? Annie Smith Servant F 20 Single - - - - General Servant (Domestic) Yorks Morley c1881 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 7 Signature (sig) G.S.Phillips Postal Address Station Hotel, Guiseley, Yorks --------------------------------------------------------- From 1901 online census: Beatrice Philips was 14 on 31/03/1901 (so born 1886), born Yorkshire Horsforth Father was George Philips, married (in 1901), 39 on 31/03/1901, Licensed Victualler, employment status "nullworking at home", born Yorkshire Leeds Mother was Mary G Philips, married (in 1901), 38, born Yorkshire Leeds, no occupation recorded in 1901 census Sister: Florence Philips, 13, born Yorkshire Horsforth Brother: George Philips, 11, born Yorkshire Horsforth Servant: Eliza Taylor, 26, born Yorkshire Leeds They lived at the Kings Arms, Horsforth on 31/03/1901 Beatrice married 10 years later, and died a year later following child birth. From Greville (07/08/2003): Interesting information on Beatrice May Phillips - Born at the Black Bull Inn, Horsforth Father, George Shillito Phillips, residing at the Inn but occupation is Lithographer Mother, Mary Grace Phillips, formerly Stead. VRI gives possible (unconfirmed) Mary Stead: STEAD, Mary Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 21 Jul 1861 Recorded in: Bolton Percy, Yorkshire, England Father: Richard STEAD Mother: Ann Source: FHL Film 1068315 Dates: 1854 - 1862 The place of birth does not match the census - but the census may be wrong. There are many other Mary Steads the VRI gives, but this is the only one circa 1862 (+/- 5 years) in Yorkshire. If valid, then there would seem to be an elder sibling: STEAD, Samuel Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 27 Nov 1859 Recorded in: Bolton Percy, Yorkshire, England Father: Richard STEAD Mother: Ann Source: FHL Film 1068315 Dates: 1854 - 1862 Bolton Percy is closest to York, but in the vicinity of Leeds (which the census gave as the birth place for Mary). A man called \Benjamin Stead\ was witness to the marriage of Harry Knapton <30> and Beatrice May Phillips <29>. Is he possibly related to Mary Stead <47> ? /=============================================================================/ ID: <48> Status: D Name: \George W. Phillips\ Gender: M Gen: -5 Position: 011100 Born: c1837, Leeds, Gloucester, England, between 04/04/1837 and 03/04/1838 (from 1881 census) Married: Married by 03/04/1881 Died: ??? Partner: <49> Child: <46> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: From 1881 online census (taken 03/04/1881): Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability George W. PHILLIPS Head M Male 43 Leeds, Gloucester, England Railway Foreman Sarah PHILLIPS Wife M Female 48 Leeds, York, England Wife Geo. Shillito PHILLIPS Son U Male 19 Leeds, York, England Lithographer Apprentice William PHILLIPS Son Male 18 Leeds, York, England Brush Maker Albert Edward PHILLIPS Son Male 16 Leeds, York, England Wood Carver Mary E PHILLIPS Daur Female 14 Leeds, York, England Scholar Elizabeth PHILLIPS Daur Female 12 Leeds, York, England Scholar Benjamin PHILLIPS Son Male 10 Leeds, York, England Scholar Source Information: Dwelling 13 Emsley Ter Census Place Hunslet, York, England Family History Library Film 1342076 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4492 / 49 Page Number 2 _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ /=============================================================================/ ID: <49> Status: D Name: \Sarah _____\ Gender: F Gen: -5 Position: 011101 Born: c1832, Leeds, Gloucester, England, between 04/04/1832 and 03/04/1833 (from 1881 census) Married: Married by 03/04/1881 Died: ??? Partner: <48> Child: <46> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: From 1881 online census (taken 03/04/1881): Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability George W. PHILLIPS Head M Male 43 Leeds, Gloucester, England Railway Foreman Sarah PHILLIPS Wife M Female 48 Leeds, York, England Wife Geo. Shillito PHILLIPS Son U Male 19 Leeds, York, England Lithographer Apprentice William PHILLIPS Son Male 18 Leeds, York, England Brush Maker Albert Edward PHILLIPS Son Male 16 Leeds, York, England Wood Carver Mary E PHILLIPS Daur Female 14 Leeds, York, England Scholar Elizabeth PHILLIPS Daur Female 12 Leeds, York, England Scholar Benjamin PHILLIPS Son Male 10 Leeds, York, England Scholar Source Information: Dwelling 13 Emsley Ter Census Place Hunslet, York, England Family History Library Film 1342076 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4492 / 49 Page Number 2 /=============================================================================/ ID: <50> Status: D Name: \Joseph Hodgkins\ Gender: M Gen: -4 Position: 00100 Born: c1835, Staffordshire [1851C] Christened 11 OCT 1835, Saint Chad, Lichfield, Stafford, England [IGI and confirmed by Fathers name on marriage certificate] Born c1836, Lichfield, Staffordshire [1901C] Born c1836, Lichfield, Stafford, England [1891C] Born c1837, Lichfield, Stafford, England [1881C] Born c1836, Staffordshire [according to Halifax 1851 census] [1851C] Married: 31/05/1862, Ogley Hay, Stafford, England [IGI records] Confirmed on marriage certificate. Marriage at the Church of St. James in the parish of Ogley Hay, Staffordshire. Witnesses were Joseph Shaw and Elizabeth Pooley. Died: c1906 [1901C][1911C] After 1901 census, and before 1911 census. [1901C][1911C] GRO possibles: Joseph Hodgkins, Jul-Sep 1907, aged 69, W. Bromwich, 6b/409 - so born c1838 - NOT THIS ONE Joseph Hodgkins, Apr-Jun 1908, aged 50, Lichfield, 6b/258 - so born c1858 Joseph Hodgkins, Jan-Mar 1910, aged 76, Witney, 3a/604 - so born c1834 The Jul-Sep 1907 one is most likely as it gives him a birth c1838, and is in Staffordshire - but it's not that one. The Apr-Jun 1908 is next closest by place (being in Staffordshire), but the Jan-Mar 1910 is next closest by birth date. Partner: <51> Child: <41> Father: <60> Mother: <61> Sibling: \Arthur Hodgkins:c1838\, age 13 in 1851 (thus born c1838), Mechanic in 1851, born in Sheffield, Yks [1851C] Recorded as "Arthour" on the 1851 census, probably in error. Christened 30/07/1837, Saint Chad, Lichfield, Stafford, England, parents Benjamin and Maria Hodgkins [IGI] \George Hodgkins:c1850\, age 1 in 1851 (thus born c1850), born in Northowram, Yks [1851C] Aged 11 in 1861 (thus born c1850), born in Halifax, Yorkshire; living at Bentley Hay, Bentley, Staffordshire [1861] Born Jan-Mar 1850, Halifax district (which includes the town of Northowram), volume 22, page 242 [freebmd] Notes: GRO marriage index: Quarter: Jun 1862 Grooms Name: Joseph Hodgkins Brides Name: Georgiana Lancashire District: Lichfield Vol/Page: 6b/452 Researched: 22/08/2003, Harris Library, Preston Certificate: Ordered 23/08/2003. Received 02/09/2003. Birth certificate of son Henry <41> : --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Lichfield 1867 in the Sub-district of Lichfield in the County of Staffordshire No When/where Name Sex Father Mother 360 Fifth December 1867 Ogley Hay Henry Boy Joseph Hodgkins Georgiana Hodgkins formerly Lancashire Occupation of father Informant (sig, description, residence) When reg Registrar Coal miner J Hodgkins, Father, Ogley Hay Twenty Seventh December 1867 Charles Gillard --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriage certificate : --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1862. Church of St James. Parish of Ogley Hoay, Staffordshire. No 76 May 31 Joseph Hodgkins 26 Bachelor Miner Ogley Hay Benjamin Hodgkins Labourer Georgiana Lancashire 20 Spinster - Hammerwich John Lancashire Miner Married...after Bannes by me, Thomas Jackson (sig) Joesph Hodgkins in the presence of Joseph Shaw The mark of (x) Georgiana Lancashire Elizabeth Pooley --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- British Isles Vital Records Index (version 2) : HODGKINS, Joseph Age: 26 Marriage Wife: Georgiana LANCASHIRE Age: 20 Marriage Date: 31 May 1862 Recorded in: Ogley Hay, Staffordshire, England Husband's Father: Benjamin HODGKINS Wife's Father: John LANCASHIRE Source: FHL Film 1040781 Dates: 1854 - 1876 JOSEPH HODGKINS Male Christening: 11 OCT 1835 Saint Chad, Lichfield, Stafford, England Parents: Father: BENJAMIN HODGKINS Mother: MARIE Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C039311 1813 - 1864 0435789 Film 0883718 Film C039311 1865 - 1877 0435790 Film NONE Sheet: 00 Confirmed as the same Joseph Hodgkins by marriage certificate (with Georgiana <51>) that confirms his father as Benjamin Hodgkins <60>. 1851 census: Parish: Northowram Borough: Halifax(?) Address: Garden Street County/Island: Yorkshire Source information: HO107/2302 Registration district: Halifax Sub-registration district: Northowram ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Folio: 25 Page: 18 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 64 GSU Number: 87511-87512 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Benjamin Hodgkins M Head Marr 36 Labourer Needwood Forrest, Staffordshire abt 1815 Benjamin Hodgkins <60> Maria Hodgkins F Wife Marr 35 Staffordshire abt 1816 Marie Moore <61> Joseph Hodgkins M Son 15 Spinner Staffordshire abt 1836 Joseph Hodgkins <50> Arthour Hodgkins M Son 13 Mechanic Sheffield Staffordshire abt 1838 Arthur Hodgkins <<50>> George Hodgkins M Son 1 Northamrow Halifax abt 1850 George Hodgkins <<50>> 1871 census: Township: Hammerwich, Staffordshire Village: Hammerwich, Staffordshire Ecclesiastical District: Lichfield, Staffordshire Address: Watling Street Name Rel. M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace Joseph Hodgkins Head Marr 35 Miner Staffordshire Lichfield Georgena Hodgkins Wife Marr 29 Staffordshire Darlaston Agnes Hodgkins Daur 8 Scholar Staffordshire Hammerwich Ellen Hodgkins Daur 5 Scholar Staffordshire Hammerwich Henry Hodgkins Son 3 Scholar Staffordshire Hammerwich Source information: PRO Reference: RG10/2915 Registration district: Lichfield, Staffordshire Sub-registration district: Lichfield, Staffordshire ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Folio: 62 Page: 20 Household schedule number: 87 1881 census: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Joseph HODGKINS Head M Male 44 Lichfield, Stafford, England Coal Miner Georgiana HODGKINS Wife M Female 39 Darlaston, Stafford, England Henry HODGKINS Son Male 13 Ogley Hay, Stafford, England Employed In Coal Mine Maria HODGKINS Daur Female 8 Hammerwich, Stafford, England Scholar Arthur HODGKINS Son Male 6 Hammerwich, Stafford, England Scholar William HODGKINS Son Male 2 Burntwood, Stafford, England Source Information: Dwelling Rugeley Rd Census Place Burntwood Edial & Woodhouses, Stafford, England Family History Library Film 1341664 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2774 / 64 Page Number 26 1891 census: Admin County: Stafford Civil Parish: Burntwood Village: Burntwood Rural sanitary district: Lichfield Parliamentary borough: Lichfield Eccl district: Burntwood Address: Planters Plow Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Profession Birthplace --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hodgkin Jos Head M M 55 Coal Miner Staff Lichfield Hodgkin Georgina Wife M F 49 Staff Darlaston Hodgkin Maria Daur Single F 18 Domestic Servant Staff Hammerwich Hodgkin Arthur Son Single M 16 Miner Staff Hammerwich Hodgkin Willm Son Single M 12 Miner Staff Burntwood Hodgkin Albert Son Single M 8 Scholar Staff Burntwood 1901 census information: PRO Reference RG Number, Series RG13 Piece 2655 Folio 58 Page 3 Location: Address 22 Rugeley Rd Civil Parish Burntwood Town or Village or Hamlet Chase Terrace Ecclesiastical Chasetown Administrative County Staffordshire Reg District Lichfield Joseph Hodgkins, Head, Married, 65, Coal miner hewer, born Lichfield Staffs Georgina Hodgkins, Wife, Married, 69, born Darlaston Staffs - age 69 probably incorrect as makes her born c1832, not c1842 as already known Wm Hodgkins, Son, 22, Single, Coal miner haulier, born Chasetown Staffs Albert Hodgkins, Son, 18, Single, Coal miner horse driver, born Bony Hay Staffs 1911 Census - Albert Hodgkins, wife Elizabeth, and mother Georgi(a)na --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN16870 RG78PN1044 RD367 SD1 ED12 SN60 Schedule Number: 60 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Staffordshire District: Lichfield Subdistrict: Lichfield Enumeration District: 12 Parish: -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Albert Hodgkins Head M 28 Married Coal Miner, Hewer Coalmining Worker Bony Hay, Chase Town Parish, Staffs c1883 <<41>> Elizabeth Hodgkins Wife F 24 Married <11887<<41>> Georgina Hodgkins Mother F 69 Widow Darlaston, Staffs c1842 Georgiana Lancashire <51> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 4 Signature (sig) Albert Hodgkins Postal Address Cross St, Chase Terrace, nr Walsall, Staffs --------------------------------------------------------- Wife Georgiana <51> records herself as a widow, therefore Joseph is dead by 1911. FreeBMD - search for Joseph Hodgkins died 1901 to 1911 in Staffordshire : Deaths Jun 1907 Hodgkins Joseph 48 Wolverhampton 6b 337 born c1859 Deaths Sep 1907 Hodgkins Joseph 69 W. Bromwich 6b 409 born c1838 Confirmed on GRO image Deaths Dec 1907 Hodgkins Joseph 85 Walsall 6b 433 born c1822 Deaths Jun 1908 HODGKINS Joseph 50 Lichfield 6b 258 born c1858 Confirmed on GRO image The district Wolverhampton spans the boundaries of the counties of Shropshire, Staffordshire and West Midlands The district Walsall is in the county of Staffordshire The district W. Bromwich is an alternative name for West Bromwich and it spans the boundaries of the counties of Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire and Worcestershire The Sep 1907 entry is more likely as it gives him a birth c1838 (Lichfield 1908 entry gives c1858). FreeBMD - search for Joseph Hodgkins died 1901 to 1911 (other counties) : Deaths Jun 1901 Hodgkins Joseph 55 W. Derby 8b 217 born c1846 Deaths Dec 1901 Hodgkins Joseph 60 Chipping Norton 3a 557 born c1841 Deaths Sep 1909 HODGKINS Joseph 77 Coventry 6d 235 born c1832 Deaths Mar 1910 HODGKINS Joseph 76 Witney 3a 604 born c1834 Confirmed on GRO image The district Chipping Norton spans the boundaries of the counties of Gloucestershire, Oxfordshire and Warwickshire The district Coventry spans the boundaries of the counties of Warwickshire and West Midlands The district Witney spans the boundaries of the counties of Berkshire, Gloucestershire and Oxfordshire -- George Hodgkins <<50>> in 1861 census: Civil parish: Bentley County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Bentley Hay Registration district: Walsall Sub-registration district: Darlaston ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household schedule number: 52 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Benjamin Hodgkins M Head Mar 46 Lab. Blast Furnace Not Known abt 1815 Benjamin Hodgkins <60> Maria Hodgkins F Wife Mar 50 Staffordshire Aldrugh abt 1816 Marie Moore <61> George Hodgkins M Son Un 11 Yorkshire Halifax abt 1850 George Hodgkins <<50>> -- Georgiana <51>'s maiden name appeared to be Laucask (or similar), as given by fragment of Henry Hodgkins <41> birth certificate. No luck was found locating Georgiana by that maiden name. Ordered Henry Hodgkins <41> full birth certificate, and Georgiana's maiden name is actually Lancashire. A search on the internet (FamilySearch website) then quickly gave a marriage date of 31/05/1862 in Ogley Hay, Stafford, England JOSEPH HODGKINS Marriages: Spouse: GEORGIANA LANCASHIRE Marriage: 31 MAY 1862 Ogley Hay, Stafford, England Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M167301 1854 - 1876 1040781 Film NONE Sheet: Items 4-5 Parish registers, 1849-1900 Church of England. Parish Church of Ogley-Hay Title Parish registers, 1849-1900 Authors Church of England. Parish Church of Ogley-Hay (Main Author) Ogley-Hays was a chapelry and parish in the urban district of Brownhills. Ogley-Hay became a parish in 1857. Microfilm of original records in the Staffordshire County Record Office. The chapelry of Ogley-Hay includes parts of the parishes of St. Michael, Shenstone, Walsall, and Norton-under-Cannock. Staffordshire Record Office no.: D1259/1/8-10, 15-16. Subjects England, Stafford, Ogley-Hay - Church records England, Stafford, Brownhills - Church records Format Manuscript (On Film) Language English Publication Salt Lake City : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1980, 1987 Physical on 2 microfilm reels ; 35 and 16 mm. Joseph Hodgkins <50> is indicated as a Coal Miner on Henry Hodgkins <41> birth certificate. He and Georgiana lived in Ogley Hay at the time of registration (27/12/1867). Marriage certificate (with Georgiana Lancashire <51>) indicates he lived (age 26) in Ogley Hay on 31/05/1862, and was a Miner. It states his father was Benjamin Hodgkins, a Labourer. It also confirms the christening record above is relevant. www.familyhistoryonline.net (03/05/2004) - Halifax 1851 Census : Township Northowram Address 7 Garden Street Name Hodgkins Benjamin Status M Rel Head gender Male Age 36 Occupation Labourer Place of Birth Needwood Forrest County Sts deaf – Piece 2302 ED 1b Folio 25 4. Township Northowram Address 7 Garden Street Name Hodgkins Benjamin Status M Rel Head gender Male Age 36 Occupation Labourer Place of Birth Needwood Forrest County Sts deaf – Piece 2302 ED 1b Folio 25 1. Township Northowram Address 7 Garden Street Name Hodgkins Maria Status M Rel Wife gender Female Age 35 Occupation – Place of Birth – County Sts deaf – Piece 2302 ED 1b Folio 25 5. Township Northowram Address 7 Garden Street Name Hodgkins Joseph Status – Rel Son gender Male Age 15 Occupation Spinner Place of Birth – County Sts deaf – Piece 2302 ED 1b Folio 25 3. Township Northowram Address 7 Garden Street Name Hodgkins Arthour Status – Rel Son gender Male Age 13 Occupation Mechanic Place of Birth Sheffield County (Sts) deaf – Piece 2302 ED 1b Folio 25 2. Township Northowram Address 7 Garden Street Name Hodgkins George Status – Rel Son gender Male Age 1 Occupation – Place of Birth Northowram County Yks deaf – Piece 2302 ED 1b Folio 25 Amount paid £0.09 Five in Schedule (price £0.36) ARTHUR HODGKINS Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 30 JUL 1837 Saint Chad, Lichfield, Stafford, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: BENJAMIN HODGKINS Mother: MARIA Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C039311 1813 - 1864 0435789 Film 0883718 Film C039311 1865 - 1877 0435790 Film NONE Sheet: 00 GRO birth index of George Hodgkins <<50>>: Quarter: Mar 1850 Name: George Hodgkins <<50>> District: Halifax Vol/Page: 22/242 Researched: 06/05/2004, www.freebmd.org.uk Certificate: Not ordered. Halifax Created 1st July 1837. Sub-districts : Brighouse; Elland; Halifax; Halifax North; Halifax South; Luddenden; Northowram; Ovenden; Rastrick; Ripponden; Southowram; Sowerby GRO volumes : XXII (1837-51); 9a (1852-1930). Barkisland, Brighouse, Clifton, Elland, Fixny, Greetland, Halifax, Hartshead, Hipperholme, Luddenden Foot, Midgley, Norland, Northowram, Norwood Green and Coley, Ovenden, Queensbury, Rastrick, Rishworth, Shelf, Skircoat, Southowram, Sowerby, Sowerby Bridge, Soyland, Stainland with Old Lindley, Upper Greetland, Warley. Registers now divided between Calderdale, Dewsbury and Huddersfield districts. /=============================================================================/ ID: <51> Status: D Name: \Georgiana Lancashire\ Gender: F Gen: -4 Position: 00101 Born: c1842, Darlaston, Staffordshire c1842, Darlaston, Staffordshire [1851C] c1844, Darlaston, Staffordshire [1861C] c1841, Darlaston, Staffordshire [1881C] c1842, Darlaston, Staffordshire [1891C] c1832, Darlaston, Staffordshire [1901C] - age 69 probably incorrect c1842, Darlaston, Staffordshire - stated to be a widow [1911C] Married: 31/05/1862, Ogley Hay, Stafford, England [IGI records] Confirmed on marriage certificate. Marriage at the Church of St. James in the parish of Ogley Hay, Staffordshire. Witnesses were Joseph Shaw and Elizabeth Pooley. Died: ??? Partner: <50> Child: <41> Father: <62> Mother: <63> Sibling: \Charlotte Lancashire:c1846\ In 1851: Aged 5 (so born c1846), born Swannington, Leicestershire; Either blind or deaf/dumb; Living in Catshill, Staffordshire [1851C] In 1861: Aged 16 (so born c1845), born Smitstone, Leicestershire; Living in Rugeley Road, Burntwood, Staffordshire [1861C] \Sarah Lancashire:c1847\ In 1851: Aged 4 (so born c1847), born Bilston, Staffordshire; Living in Catshill, Staffordshire [1851C] In 1861: Aged 14 (so born c1847), born Bitston, Staffordshire; Living in Rugeley Road, Burntwood, Staffordshire [1861C] \Mary Ann Lancashire:c1850\ In 1851: Aged 1 (so born c1850), born Willenhall, Staffordshire; Living in Catshill, Staffordshire [1851C] In 1861: Aged 12 (so born c1849), born Willenhall, Staffordshire; attending school; Living in Rugeley Road, Burntwood, Staffordshire [1861C] \William Lancashire:c1850\ In 1851: Aged 5 months (so born c1850-c1851), born Stonnall, Staffordshire; Living in Catshill, Staffordshire [1851C] In 1861: Aged 10 (so born c1851), born Brown Hill, Staffordshire; Coal Miner; Living in Rugeley Road, Burntwood, Staffordshire [1861C] \Ellen Lancashire:c1854\ In 1861: Aged 7 (so born c1854), born Brown Hill, Staffordshire; attending school; Living in Rugeley Road, Burntwood, Staffordshire [1861C] In 1871: Aged 17 (so born c1854), born Brownhill, Staffordshire; Living at 16 Eastwood View, Rotherham, Yorkshire [1871C] \John Lancashire:c1856\ In 1861: Aged 5 (so born c1856), born Brown Hill, Staffordshire; Living in Rugeley Road, Burntwood, Staffordshire [1861C] In 1871: Aged 15 (so born c1856), born Brownhill, Staffordshire; Living at 16 Eastwood View, Rotherham, Yorkshire [1871C] \Mariah Lancashire:c1858\ In 1861: Aged 3 (so born c1858), born Brown Hill, Staffordshire; Living in Rugeley Road, Burntwood, Staffordshire [1861C] \Caroline Lancashire:c1860\ In 1861: Aged 11 months (so born c1860), born Brown Hill, Staffordshire; Living in Rugeley Road, Burntwood, Staffordshire [1861C] In 1871: Aged 9 (so born c1862), born Brownhill, Staffordshire; Living at 16 Eastwood View, Rotherham, Yorkshire [1871C] Notes: GRO marriage index: Quarter: Jun 1862 Grooms Name: Joseph Hodgkins Brides Name: Georgiana Lancashire District: Lichfield Vol/Page: 6b/452 Researched: 22/08/2003, Harris Library, Preston Certificate: Ordered 23/08/2003. Received 02/09/2003. Marriage certificate : 1862. Church of St James. Parish of Ogley Hoay, Staffordshire. No 76 May 31 Joseph Hodgkins 26 Bachelor Miner Ogley Hay Benjamin Hodgkins Labourer Georgiana Lancashire 20 Spinster - Hammerwich John Lancashire Miner Married...after Bannes by me, Thomas Jackson (sig) Joesph Hodgkins in the presence of Joseph Shaw The mark of (x) Georgiana Lancashire Elizabeth Pooley British Isles Vital Records Index (version 2) : HODGKINS, Joseph Age: 26 Marriage Wife: Georgiana LANCASHIRE Age: 20 Marriage Date: 31 May 1862 Recorded in: Ogley Hay, Staffordshire, England Husband's Father: Benjamin HODGKINS Wife's Father: John LANCASHIRE Source: FHL Film 1040781 Dates: 1854 - 1876 1851 census: Parish: Shenstone (apparently in Staffordshire, but the county is not on the image) Eccl District: Stonnall Village: Catshill Address: Catshill County/Island: Staffordshire Source information: HO107/2014 Registration district: Lichfield Sub-registration district: Lichfield ED, institution, or vessel: 9d Folio: 139 Page: 27 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 99 GSU Number: 87417 Name MF Relation Mar Age Occupation Birthplace Blind/Deaf-and-Dumb EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Lancashire M Head Mar 29 Collier(?) Derby Denby Y abt 1822 John Lancashire <62> Charlotte Lancashire F Wife Mar 27 Derby Newhall Y abt 1824 Charlotte ? <63> Georgiana Lancashire F Daur 9 Stafford Darlaston abt 1842 Georgiana Lancashire <51> Charlotte Lancashire F Daur 5 Leicester Swannington Y abt 1846 Sarah Lancashire F Daur 4 Stafford Bilston abt 1847 Mary Ann Lancashire F Daur 1 Stafford Willenhall abt 1850 William Lancashire M Son 5 mths Stafford Stonnall abt 1850 Henry N K M Lodger U 22 Miner Derby Denby Y abt 1829 1861 census: Parish: Burntwood Edial and Woodhouses Ecclesiastical parish: Burntwood Christchurch County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Hamlet: Burntwood Street Address: Rugeley Road Source information: RG9/1973 Registration district: Lichfield Sub-registration district: Lichfield ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Folio: 81 Page: 25 Household schedule number: 156 GSU Number: 542896 Name MF Relation Mar Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Lancashire M Head Mar 40 Coal Miner Derbysh Derby (should be Denby) abt 1821 John Lancashire <62> Charlotte Lancashire F Wife Mar 38 Derbysh Newhall abt 1823 Charlotte ? <63> Georgina Lancashire F Daur Unm 17 Staffordsh Darlaston abt 1844 Georgiana Lancashire <51> Charlotte Lancashire F Daur Unm 16 Leicestersh Smitstone abt 1845 Sarah Lancashire F Daur 14 Staffordsh Bitston abt 1847 Mary Ann Lancashire F Daur 12 Scholar Staffordsh Willenhall abt 1849 William Lancashire M Son 10 Coal Miner Staffordsh Brown Hill abt 1851 Ellen Lancashire F Daur 7 Scholar Staffordsh Brown Hill abt 1854 John Lancashire M Son 5 Staffordsh Brown Hill abt 1856 Mariah Lancashire F Daur 3 Staffordsh Brown Hill abt 1858 Caroline Lancashire F Daur 11 months Staffordsh Brown Hill abt 1860 William Lancashire M Father Mar 72 Coal Miner Derbysh Derby (Denby?) abt 1789 William Lancashire <64> 1871 census: Township: Hammerwich, Staffordshire Village: Hammerwich, Staffordshire Ecclesiastical District: Lichfield, Staffordshire Address: Watling Street Name Rel. M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace Joseph Hodgkins Head Marr 35 Miner Staffordshire Lichfield Georgena Hodgkins Wife Marr 29 Staffordshire Darlaston Agnes Hodgkins Daur 8 Scholar Staffordshire Hammerwich Ellen Hodgkins Daur 5 Scholar Staffordshire Hammerwich Henry Hodgkins Son 3 Scholar Staffordshire Hammerwich Source information: PRO Reference: RG10/2915 Registration district: Lichfield, Staffordshire Sub-registration district: Lichfield, Staffordshire ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Folio: 62 Page: 20 Household schedule number: 87 1881 census: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Joseph HODGKINS Head M Male 44 Lichfield, Stafford, England Coal Miner Georgiana HODGKINS Wife M Female 39 Darlaston, Stafford, England Henry HODGKINS Son Male 13 Ogley Hay, Stafford, England Employed In Coal Mine Maria HODGKINS Daur Female 8 Hammerwich, Stafford, England Scholar Arthur HODGKINS Son Male 6 Hammerwich, Stafford, England Scholar William HODGKINS Son Male 2 Burntwood, Stafford, England Source Information: Dwelling Rugeley Rd Census Place Burntwood Edial & Woodhouses, Stafford, England Family History Library Film 1341664 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2774 / 64 Page Number 26 1891 census: Admin County: Stafford Civil Parish: Burntwood Village: Burntwood Rural sanitary district: Lichfield Parliamentary borough: Lichfield Eccl district: Burntwood Address: Planters Plow Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Profession Birthplace --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hodgkin Jos Head M M 55 Coal Miner Staff Lichfield Hodgkin Georgina Wife M F 49 Staff Darlaston Hodgkin Maria Daur Single F 18 Domestic Servant Staff Hammerwich Hodgkin Arthur Son Single M 16 Miner Staff Hammerwich Hodgkin Willm Son Single M 12 Miner Staff Burntwood Hodgkin Albert Son Single M 8 Scholar Staff Burntwood 1901 census information: PRO Reference RG Number, Series RG13 Piece 2655 Folio 58 Page 3 Location: Address 22 Rugeley Rd Civil Parish Burntwood Town or Village or Hamlet Chase Terrace Ecclesiastical Chasetown Administrative County Staffordshire Reg District Lichfield Joseph Hodgkins, Head, Married, 65, Coal miner hewer, born Lichfield Staffs Georgina Hodgkins, Wife, Married, 69, born Darlaston Staffs - age 69 probably incorrect as makes her born c1832, not c1842 as already known Wm Hodgkins, Son, 22, Single, Coal miner haulier, born Chasetown Staffs Albert Hodgkins, Son, 18, Single, Coal miner horse driver, born Bony Hay Staffs 1911 Census - Albert Hodgkins, wife Elizabeth, and mother Georgi(a)na --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN16870 RG78PN1044 RD367 SD1 ED12 SN60 Schedule Number: 60 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Staffordshire District: Lichfield Subdistrict: Lichfield Enumeration District: 12 Parish: -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Albert Hodgkins Head M 28 Married Coal Miner, Hewer Coalmining Worker Bony Hay, Chase Town Parish, Staffs c1883 <<41>> Elizabeth Hodgkins Wife F 24 Married <11887<<41>> Georgina Hodgkins Mother F 69 Widow Darlaston, Staffs c1842 Georgiana Lancashire <51> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 4 Signature (sig) Albert Hodgkins Postal Address Cross St, Chase Terrace, nr Walsall, Staffs --------------------------------------------------------- Siblings in 1871: Civil Parish: Rotherham Ecclesiastical parish: Rotherham Town: Rotherham County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 16 Eastwood View Source information: RG10/4704 Registration district: Rotherham Sub-registration district: Rotherham ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Folio: 14 Page: 3 Household schedule number: 12 GSU Number: 847242 Name MF Relation Mar Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Lancashire M Head Widr 50 Miner Derby Denby abt 1821 John Lancashire <62> Ellen Lancashire F Daughter Unm 17 Stafford Brownhill abt 1850 John Lancashire M Son 15 Miner Stafford Brownhill abt 1856 Caroline Lancashire F Daughter 9 Stafford Brownhill abt 1862 Georgiana <51>'s maiden name appeared to be Laucask (or similar), as given by fragment of Henry Hodgkins <41> birth certificate. No luck was found locating Georgiana by that maiden name. Ordered Henry Hodgkins <41> full birth certificate, and Georgiana's maiden name is actually Lancashire. A search on the internet (FamilySearch website) then quickly gave a marriage date of 31/05/1862 in Ogley Hay, Stafford, England JOSEPH HODGKINS Marriages: Spouse: GEORGIANA LANCASHIRE Marriage: 31 MAY 1862 Ogley Hay, Stafford, England Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M167301 1854 - 1876 1040781 Film NONE Sheet: Items 4-5 Parish registers, 1849-1900 Church of England. Parish Church of Ogley-Hay Title Parish registers, 1849-1900 Authors Church of England. Parish Church of Ogley-Hay (Main Author) Ogley-Hays was a chapelry and parish in the urban district of Brownhills. Ogley-Hay became a parish in 1857. Microfilm of original records in the Staffordshire County Record Office. The chapelry of Ogley-Hay includes parts of the parishes of St. Michael, Shenstone, Walsall, and Norton-under-Cannock. Staffordshire Record Office no.: D1259/1/8-10, 15-16. Subjects England, Stafford, Ogley-Hay - Church records England, Stafford, Brownhills - Church records Format Manuscript (On Film) Language English Publication Salt Lake City : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1980, 1987 Physical on 2 microfilm reels ; 35 and 16 mm. Joseph Hodgkins <50> is indicated as a Coal Miner on Henry Hodgkins <41> birth certificate. He and Georgiana lived in Ogley Hay at the time of registration (27/12/1867). Marriage certificate (with Joeseph Hodgkins <50>) indicates she lived (age 20) in Hammerwich on 31/05/1862. No profession or occupation is indicated. It states her father was John Lancashire, a Miner. 1837online.com search for Georgiana's birth (26/12/2003) : Dec 1840 LAN/1 -- (George Lancaster there though) Mar 1841 LAN/1 -- Jun 1841 LAN/1 --* Sep 1841 LAN/1 --* Dec 1841 LAN/1 -- (George Lancaster there though) Mar 1842 LAN/1 --* Jun 1842 LAN/1 --* Sep 1842 LAN/1 --* Dec 1842 LAN/1 -- (George Lancaster there though) (* = Not present in the Lancashire's but did not look in the Lancaster's.) Neither could I find her in the GRO indexes on film in the library. All available evidence (census, marriage certificate, VRI) points to her birth in 1841-1842. Most likely she is simply missing from the indexes (errors and omissions like this are not unknown, especially for people in the early years of the indexes such as in 1841). Given an exact place of birth (or at least district), you can maybe pay the GRO £11 for them to search for you. If the census is about right for the age/year, maybe it can be trusted for the place???? --- Posted on ancestry.co.uk on 19/01/2004, cross-posted to Rootsweb: Georgiana Lancashire / Joseph Hodgkins Author: Ian Ward Date: 19 Jan 2004 11:42 PM GMT Surnames: Lancashire, Hodgkins Classification: Query I'm looking for information on Georgiana Lancashire who probably lived in the Staffordshire area (England). She was (probably) born about 1841, and I know she married Joseph Hodgkins in 1862. Her father was John Lancashire, and she had children Henry, Maria, Authur and William. Any help appreciated. --- GenesConnected John Porter Lancashire, Born c1818 in Ockbrook,Derbyshire Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:59:45 -0000 Confirmation that you have contacted Richard Buxton about the following person in your Tree - John Porter Lancashire To check the status of any contacts you have go to www.genesconnected.com/GenesConnected.asp?WCI=Contacts and select 'Your Contacts' Hello. My name is Ian Ward and I'm trying to trace John Lancashire, probably born sometime about 1810, father of Georgiana Lancashire (who was born c.1841 in Staffordshire). Is this anything like your John Lancashire? From: richard buxton (richardbuxton36@hotmail.com) To: (ge_co@goblin-online.net) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:58:20 +0000 Subject: John Lancashire Dear Ian Yes interesting!John married Ann Bowbar or Bowman.They had a daghter called Lydia in Oct 1838 who was one of 6 children I believe.Lydia born in Sponden ,Derbys.Lydia is my gt gt grannie on my moms side! [[ Genesconnected: Lydia Ann Lancashire, Born 1838 in Sponden,Derbyshire ]] [[ IGI: FANNY BOWMER LANCASHIRE 07 APR 1836 Ockbrook, Derby, England LYDIA ANNE LANCASHIRE 22 JAN 1838 Ockbrook, Derby, England JOHN LANCASHIRE 13 OCT 1839 Ockbrook, Derby, England CHARLES WILLIAM LANCASHIRE 23 JUL 1841 Ockbrook, Derby, England THOMAS BOWMAN LANCASHIRE 21 SEP 1843 Ockbrook, Derby, England EDITH LANCASHIRE 10 JAN 1847 Ockbrook, Derby, England EMILY IDA LANCASHIRE 29 OCT 1850 Ockbrook, Derby, England LYDIA ANNE LANCASHIRE Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 22 JAN 1838 Ockbrook, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN LANCASHIRE Family Mother: ANN Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C059441 1759 - 1812 0428930 Film 6905399 Film C059441 1813 - 1837 0498112 Film NONE Sheet: 00 JOHN LANCASHIRE Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 13 OCT 1839 Ockbrook, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN LANCASHIRE Family Mother: ANNE Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C059441 1759 - 1812 0428930 Film 6905399 Film C059441 1813 - 1837 0498112 Film NONE Sheet: 00 EMILY IDA LANCASHIRE Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 29 OCT 1850 Ockbrook, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN PORTER LANCASHIRE Family Mother: ANN Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C059441 1759 - 1812 0428930 Film 6905399 Film C059441 1813 - 1837 0498112 Film NONE Sheet: 00 THOMAS BOWMAN LANCASHIRE Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 21 SEP 1843 Ockbrook, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN LANCASHIRE Family Mother: ANN Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C059441 1759 - 1812 0428930 Film 6905399 Film C059441 1813 - 1837 0498112 Film NONE Sheet: 00 CHARLES WILLIAM LANCASHIRE Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 23 JUL 1841 Ockbrook, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN LANCASHIRE Family Mother: ANN Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C059441 1759 - 1812 0428930 Film 6905399 Film C059441 1813 - 1837 0498112 Film NONE Sheet: 00 FANNY BOWMER LANCASHIRE Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 07 APR 1836 Ockbrook, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN MOSES MARK PORTER LANCASHIRE Family Mother: ANNE Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C059441 1759 - 1812 0428930 Film 6905399 Film C059441 1813 - 1837 0498112 Film NONE Sheet: 00 EDITH LANCASHIRE Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 10 JAN 1847 Ockbrook, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN LANCASHIRE Family Mother: ANN Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C059441 1759 - 1812 0428930 Film 6905399 Film C059441 1813 - 1837 0498112 Film NONE Sheet: 00 ]] /=============================================================================/ ID: <52> Status: D Name: \James Cooper\ Gender: M Gen: -4 Position: 00110 Born: 13/09/1852, Soundwell, Mangotsfield, Gloucestershire [birth cert] c1852, Gloucestershire, England [1881C] Married: 27/01/1873, Parish Church, Parish of S. Edmund, Dudley, Worcester Died: c1885 Died by 25/12/1897, as indicated on Henry <41> and Annie's <42> marriage certificate. We also know from the 1881 and 1891 censuses that James <52> died between 1881 and 1891, as by 1891 he is absent and wife Elizabeth <53> is recorded as a widow, thus died c1885. Apparently died quite young, aged between 30 and 40. Partner: <53> Child: <42> Father: <73> Mother: <74> Sibling: \James Cooper:c1847\ In 1851: Aged 4 in 1851, so born c1847, Mangotsfield, Gloucestershire; Living at 'Soundwell', Mangotsfield, Gloucestershire [1851C] \Robert Cooper:c1848\ In 1851: Aged 3 in 1851, so born c1848, Mangotsfield, Gloucestershire; Living at 'Soundwell', Mangotsfield, Gloucestershire [1851C] \Thomas Cooper:c1850\ In 1851: Aged 1 in 1851, so born c1850, Mangotsfield, Gloucestershire; Living at 'Soundwell', Mangotsfield, Gloucestershire [1851C] Notes: Birth cert of James Cooper <52> : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Keynsham 1852 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Oldland in the County of Gloucester No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 414 Thirteenth September 1852 James Boy Robert Cooper Ann Cooper Coal Miner Robert Cooper Twenty Sixth R. Mile (?) Soundwell Mangotsfield formerly Davis Father October 1852 Gr____ Soundwell Registrar Mangotsfield ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriage certificate of James Cooper <52> and Elizabeth Garratt <53> : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1873 Marriage solumnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of S. Edmund, Dudley in the County of Worcester No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 285 January 27th 1873 James Cooper 20 Bachelor Miner Dudley Robert Cooper Miner Elizabeth Garratt 20 Spinster -- Dudley Mark Garratt Furnace Man Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me (sig) Francis Edmund Wilrut(?) This Marriage in the Curate was solumnized (sig) James Coopers Mark X Presence (sig) John Summer's Mark X between us (sig) Elizbath Garratt's Mark X of us (sig) Sarah Summer's Mark X ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1851 census: Parish: Mangotsfield Address: Soundwell County/Island: Gloucestershire Source information: HO107/1944 Registration district: Keynsham Sub-registration district: Bitton ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Folio: 205 Page: 7 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 26 GSU Number: 221103-221104 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Cooper M Head Mar 26 Coal Miner Siston, Glostersh. abt 1825 Robert Cooper <73> Ann Cooper F Wife Mar 25 Mangotsfield, Glostersh. abt 1826 Ann <74> John Cooper M Son 4(?) Mangotsfield, Glostersh. abt 1847 Robert Cooper M Son 3 Mangotsfield, Glostersh. abt 1848 Thomas Cooper M Son 1 Mangotsfield, Glostersh. abt 1850 While James Cooper <52> does not appear is this 1851 census - as he likely isn't born yet - it records his father Robert <73>, mother Ann <74> and what appear to be several of James <52>'s siblings. It also confirms the possible birth reference for James <52> previously found: Dec 1852 COOPER, James, Keynsham, 5c/686 The Keynsham district matches the location of the 1851 census data. Similar 1851 info available from http://www.rootsweb.com/~cotswold/GLSontheweb.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~cotswold/1nameCOO-COZ.txt http://www.rootsweb.com/~cotswold/mangotsfield51.txt Index: COOPER Robert 26 Coal Miner Siston / Mangotsfield 51 1881 census: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability James COOPER Head M Male 28 Gloucester, England Coal Miner Elizth. COOPER Wife M Female 28 Worcester, England Annie COOPER Dau Female 6 Worcester, England Maria COOPER Dau Female 3 Worcester, England Source Information: Dwelling Millstone Hill Census Place Aston Cum Aughton, York, England Family History Library Film 1342129 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4670 / 67 Page Number 23 1891 census: Location: Administrative county: Yorkshire Civil parish: Aston Village: Aston Rural sanitary district: Rotherham Parliamentary borough: Rotherham Eccl. parish/district: All Saints Address: No. 9 Ref: RG12/3844 Household: Elizabeth Cooper, Head, Widow, 39, Living on own means, Worstershire Netherton Ann Cooper, Daur, Single, 16, Worstershire Netherton Marie (Maria?) Cooper, Daur, Single, 13, Worstershire Netherton Elizabeth Cooper, Daur, 9, Yorkshire Aston James Cooper, Son, 4, Yorkshire Aston Lilly Cooper, Daur, 1, Yorkshire Aston Note the absence of James Cooper senior, and Elizabath senior as a widow. So James Cooper <52> died between 1881 and 1891 - useful to know! On the previous image - and living on the same street - is a Robert Cooper, age 66, married to Ann Cooper age 61. Probably the same Robert Cooper <73> who is the father of Annie's <42> father James Cooper <52>. On 05/11/1885, a Mr Cooper, probably James Cooper <52>, bought a childs oak coffin. It is not recorded who it was for. Possibly Lily Cooper, who was born 29/10/1884 and presumably died as a second named Lily Cooper is born 12/06/1889. On 18/01/1890, a Mrs Cooper, probably Elizabeth Cooper <53> bought a coffin. It is not recorded who this was for either. Possibly her father? Marriage certificate of Henry Hodgkins <41> with Annie Cooper <42> states James Cooper <52> as the father of Annie. It states James Cooper was deceased on 25/12/1897. Search for James Cooper born in a Gloucestershire district in 1851,1852 or 1853 on 1837online.com (09/02/2004): Mar 1851 COO/2/20 (none in Gloucestershire) Jun 1851 COO/2/19&20 (none in Gloucestershire) Sep 1851 COO/2/18&19 (none in Gloucestershire) Dec 1851 COO/2/18 (none in Gloucestershire) Mar 1852 COO/2/20 (none in Gloucestershire) Jun 1852 COO/2/19 (none in Gloucestershire) Sep 1852 COO/1/20 (none in Gloucestershire) Dec 1852 COO/2/19 COOPER, James, Keynsham, 5c/686 Mar 1853 COO/2/20 (none in Gloucestershire) Jun 1853 COO/2/19 (none in Gloucestershire) Sep 1853 COO/2/4 (none in Gloucestershire) Dec 1853 COO/2/4 (none in Gloucestershire) An additional one that FreeBMD returned in Gloucestershire, however, is: Births Jun 1853 Cooper James Stratford 6d _66 (Districts in Gloucestershire, according to http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/REG/gls.htm: Barton Regis, Bristol, Cheltenham, Chepstow, Chipping Norton, Chipping Sodbury, Cirencester, Clifton, Dursley, Evesham, Faringdon, Gloucester, Keynsham, Malmesbury, Monmouth, Newent, Northleach, Ross, Shipston on Stour, Stow on the Wold, Stratford on Avon, Stroud, Tetbury, Tewkesbury, Thornbury, Westbury on Severn, Wheatenhurst, Winchcombe, Witney, Wycombe.) These - FreeBMD and 1838online - are consistent with each other. The census is consistent with the 1852 date. Assuming the county of Gloucestershire is correct (and if it isn't then there are positively oooodles of James Coopers it could be) this is most likely him. The 1851 census further confirms the likelihood of the Keynsham district. GRO birth index: Quarter: Dec 1852 Name: James Cooper <52> District: Keynsham Vol/Page: 5c/686 Researched: 09/02/2004, 1837online Certificate: Ordered 30/10/2005; Rec'd 03/11/2005 born c1852 Deaths Mar 1881 [age c.29] COO/2/2 -- Jun 1881 [age c.29] COO/3 -- Sep 1881 [age c.29] COO/2 -- Dec 1881 [age c.29] COO/2 -- Mar 1882 [age c.30] COO/2/2 COOPER, James, 30, Fareham, 2b/400 Jun 1882 [age c.30] COO/2/2 -- Sep 1882 [age c.30] COO/2 -- Dec 1882 [age c.30] COO/2 -- Mar 1883 [age c.31] COO/3 -- Jun 1883 [age c.31] COO/2/2 COOPER, James Edward, 30, Loddon, 4b/146 Sep 1883 [age c.31] COO/2&3 -- Dec 1883 [age c.31] COO/2 -- Mar 1884 [age c.32] COO/2 COOPER, James, 34, Whitechapel, 1c/217 Jun 1884 [age c.32] COO/3 COOPER, James, 30, Wolverhampton, 6b/364 Sep 1884 [age c.32] COO/2/2 COOPER, James, 32, Newcastle L., 6b/47 Dec 1884 [age c.32] COO/2 COOPER, James, 34, Alton, 2c/99 Dec 1884 [age c.32] freebmd COOPER James 34 Alton 2c 99 Mar 1885 [age c.33] COO/2/2 -- Jun 1885 [age c.33] COO/2 -- Sep 1885 [age c.33] COO/3 COOPER, James Frederick, 32, Kings L., 4b/194 Dec 1885 [age c.33] COO/3 COOPER, James, 34, Stoke T, 6b/137 Mar 1886 [age c.34] COO/2/2 -- Jun 1886 [age c.34] COO/2/2 COOPER, James Henry, 31, Stoke D., 5b/225 Sep 1886 [age c.34] COO/2 COOPER, James William, 34, Sunderland, 10a/328 Dec 1886 [age c.34] COO/3 COOPER, James, 30, Wandsworth, 1d/363[353?] COOPER, James, 35, Oldham, 8d/522 Mar 1887 [age c.35] COO/2 -- Jun 1887 [age c.35] COO/3 COOPER, James, 35, Newcastle L., 6b/45 Sep 1887 [age c.35] COO/2 -- Dec 1887 [age c.35] COO/2/2 -- Mar 1888 [age c.36] COO/2/2 COOPER. James, 35, Chorlton, 8c/505[605?] Jun 1888 [age c.36] COO/3 -- Sep 1888 [age c.36] COO/3 -- Dec 1888 [age c.36] COO/3 -- Mar 1889 [age c.37] COO/3 COOPER, James Ellis, Poplar, 1c(a?)/441 Jun 1889 [age c.37] COO/3 COOPER, James, 36[38?], Evesham, 6e[c?a?_?)/176 Sep 1889 [age c.37] COO/3 -- Dec 1889 [age c.37] COO/3 COOPER, James, 36, Chorlton, 8c[e?]/412 Mar 1890 [age c.38] COO/2/2 COOPER, James, 36, Rotherham, 9c/451 Jun 1890 [age c.38] COO/2 COOPER, James Mansell, 37, Chesterfield, 7b/391 Sep 1890 [age c.38] COO/3 COOPER, James, 36, Badwalty, 11a/61 Dec 1890 [age c.38] COO/3 COOPER, James Westall, 36, Fulham, 1c[e?]/167 Mar 1891 [age c.39] COO/3 -- Jun 1891 [age c.39] COO/3 COOPER, James, 40, Lambeth, 1d/289 Sep 1891 [age c.39] COO/3 COOPER, James, 41, Stockport, 8a/9 COOPER, James, 39, Biggleswade, 3b/190 Dec 1891 [age c.39] COO/3 COOPER, James, 40, Stockport, 8a/42 A www.freebmd.org.uk search for likely marriages turned up: Marriages Mar 1873 GARRATT, Elizabeth, Dudley, 6c/31 The people marrying on that page were: COOPER James Dudley 6c/31 GARRATT Elizabeth Dudley 6c/31 Morgan Elizabeth Dudley 6c/31 Tilley Joseph Dudley 6c/31 Also, Ann Cooper <42> was born 1875. I think we've found our marriage. Confirmed as present in Mar 1873 in Dudley for James Cooper and Elizabath Garratt in 1837online.com. GRO marriage index: Quarter: Mar 1873 Grooms Name: James Cooper <52> Brides Name: Elizabeth Garratt <53> District: Dudley Vol/Page: 6c/31 Researched: 12/02/2004, www.freebmd.org.uk Certificate: Ordered 21/02/2004. Received 06/03/2004. /=============================================================================/ ID: <53> Status: D Name: \Elizabeth Garratt\ Gender: F Gen: -4 Position: 00111 Born: 18/05/1852, Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire, England c1852, Worcestershire, England [1881C] Married: 27/01/1873, Parish Church, Parish of S. Edmund, Dudley, Worcester Died: Circa 1910, aged 58, based on interment expense certificate dated 14/03/1910 arranged by James Cooper. NB. _which_ James Cooper is unclear, it could have been her son (Annie <42>'s brother) or her husband <52>. However we know from the 1881 and 1891 censuses that James senior <52> died between 1881 and 1891, so it *must* be James junior! Partner: <52> Child: <42> Father: <100> Mother: <101> Sibling: \Mary Ann Garratt:c1836\, born c1836, Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire In 1851: Aged 15, so born c1836; born Netherton, Worcestershire; living at Upper Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire [1851C] \Samuel Garratt:c1839\, born c1839, Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire In 1841: Aged 3, so born c1838; born Worcestershire; living at Upper Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire [1841C] In 1851: Aged 12, so born c1839; born Netherton, Worcestershire; living at Upper Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire [1851C] \Mark Garratt:c1841\, born c1841, Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire In 1841: Aged 3 days, so born 1841; born Worcestershire; living at Upper Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire [1841C] In 1851: Aged 10, so born c1841; born Netherton, Worcestershire; living at Upper Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire [1851C] \Fanny Garratt:c1844\, born c1844, Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire In 1851: Aged 7, so born c1844; born Netherton, Worcestershire; living at Upper Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire [1851C] In 1861: Aged 17, so born c1844; born Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire; living at Croft, Netherton Hall, Dudley, Worcestershire [1861C] \William Garratt:c1847:1919\, born c1847, Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire Died 11/09/1919 [Piece of cloth in Hodgkins family bible] In 1851: Aged 4, so born c1847; born Netherton, Worcestershire; living at Upper Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire [1851C] In 1861: Aged 14, so born c1847; born Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire; Coal Miner; living at Croft, Netherton Hall, Dudley, Worcestershire [1861C] In 1881: Aged 34, so born c1847; born "Nettleton", Worstershire; Coal Miner; living at Millstone Hill, Aston Cum Aughton, Beighton, Yorkshire [1881C] Interred after death at St. Bartholomew's Church, Whittington, Chesterfield, Derbyshire on 14/09/1919 [Piece of cloth in Hodgkins family bible] (Interestingly, there is also a Whittington near Netherton in Worcestershire, but St. Bartholomew's is at the Whittington near Chesterfield.) Married to Caroline Garratt (aged 37, born "Nettleton", Worstershire) in 1881. Children in the 1881: Elizabeth Garratt, daughter, aged 14, born "Nettleton", Worstershire Joseph Garratt, son, aged 11, born "Nettleton", Worstershire Rosehanah(?) Garratt, daughter, aged 9, born "Nettleton", Worstershire Mark Garratt, son, aged 3, born "Nettleton", Worstershire From Chris Morris: "I don't know if you've downloaded the image of Elizabeth Cooper's (nee Garratt) 1881 census entry but if you have or do then you will find 2 entries on the record of her brother William Garratt listed as being born in Worcester, "Nettleton" and having a wife named "Charlotte". Firstly there is no "Nettleton" in Worcestershire (but there are 2 Nethertons, this one and a farming village at the foot of Breedon Hill) and secondly Williams wife that he married in Netherton was Caroline Miles. The Charlotte listed in the 1881 census comes from Dudley and is the same age as Caroline, so I think that the enumerator probably transcribed the original entry incorrectly. Incidentally I doubt very much that either William or Caroline/Charlotte could write, as both Benjamin Garratt my g grandfather and his wife Elizabeth Smith completed their marriage entries with a cross, so errors in the original census entry plus transcription errors could have easily crept in." \Shelah Garratt:c1849\ (male), born c1849, Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire In 1851: Aged 2, so born c1849; born Netherton, Worcestershire; living at Upper Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire [1851C] In 1861: Aged 12, so born c1849; born Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire; "Cripple"; living at Croft, Netherton Hall, Dudley, Worcestershire [1861C] \Hannah Garratt:c1857\, born c1857, Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire In 1861: Aged 4, so born c1857; born Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire; attending school; living at Croft, Netherton Hall, Dudley, Worcestershire [1861C] In 1871: Aged 17, so born c1854; born Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire; living at 2 Hurleys Fold, Dudley, Worcestershire [1871C] \Benjamin Garratt:c1857\, born c1857, Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire In 1861: Aged 4, so born c1857; born Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire; attending school; living at Croft, Netherton Hall, Dudley, Worcestershire [1861C] In 1871: Aged 14, so born c1857; born Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire; Furnaceman; living at 2 Hurleys Fold, Dudley, Worcestershire [1871C] Notes: 1861 census: Civil parish: Dudley Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew Town: Dudley County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street address: Croft, Netherton Hall Source information: RG9/2061 Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Dudley ED, institution, or vessel: 41 Folio: 43 Page: 26 Household schedule number: 129 GSU Number: 542911 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Garratt M Head Mar 50 Labourer Worcestershire, Netherton, Dudley abt 1811 Mark Garratt <100> Betsy Garratt F Wife Mar 43 Worcestershire, Netherton, Dudley abt 1818 Elizabeth Stevens <101> Fanny Garratt F Daur U 17 Worcestershire, Netherton, Dudley abt 1844 William Garratt M Son U 14 Coal Miner Worcestershire, Netherton, Dudley abt 1847 Shelah Garratt M Son 12 Cripple Worcestershire, Netherton, Dudley abt 1849 Elizabeth Garratt F Daughter 9 Nailer Worcestershire, Netherton, Dudley abt 1852 Elizabeth Garratt <53> Hannah Garratt F Daughter 4 Scholar Worcestershire, Netherton, Dudley abt 1857 Benjamin Garratt M Son 4 Scholar Worcestershire, Netherton, Dudley abt 1857 1871 census: *** IMAGE ITSELF NOT AVAILABLE AS OF 12/12/2004 *** http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&gsfn=elizabeth&gsln=garratt&f1=&f2=&f4=&f18=&f12=&f13=19&f27=&f14=&f15=&f7=&f8=&f9=&gskw=&f17=&prox=1&db=uki1871&ti=5538&ti.si=0&gss=angs&rank=1&submit.x=0&submit.y=0&fh=1 http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=7619&iid=WORRG10_3015_3017-0230 Name: Elizabeth Garratt Age in 1871: 19 Estimated birth year: 1852 Relation: Daughter Gender: Female Where born: Worcestershire, England Civil parish: Dudley County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Name Age Birthplace Rel. Civil Parish County/Island Hannah Garratt 50 Worcestershire, England Head Dudley Worcestershire Elizabeth Garratt 19 Worcestershire, England Daughter Dudley Worcestershire Richard Summers 23 Worcestershire, England Boarder Dudley Worcestershire Phoebe Summers 24 Worcestershire, England Wife Dudley Worcestershire Thomas Summers 2 Worcestershire, England Son Dudley Worcestershire William Summers 9 months Worcestershire, England Son Dudley Worcestershire Source info: PRO reference: RG10/3016 Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Dudley ED, institution, or vessel: 41 Folio: 82 Page: 5 Household schedule number: 20 ** NOTE: This does NOT AGREE with the birth certificate as the birth cert says the mother was Elizabeth Stevens, not Hannah ___ ** In 1871 (image from Ancestry) : Civil Parish: Dudley Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street address: 2 Hurleys Fold Source information: RG10/3016 Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Dudley ED, institution, or vessel: 41 Folio: 98 Page: 38 Household schedule number: 187 GSU Number: 838861 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Garratt M Head Marr 59 Furnaceman Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1812 Mark Garratt <100> Elizabeth Garratt F Wife Marr 54 Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1817 Elizabeth Stevens <101> Elizabeth Garratt F Daur Unm 19 Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1852 Elizabeth Garratt <53> Hannah Garratt F Daur Unm 17 Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1854 Benjamin Garratt M Son Unm 14 Furnaceman Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1857 Thomas France M Lodger Mar 28 Furnaceman Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1843 Fanny France F Wife Mar 27 Nailer Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1844 Thomas France M Son 6 Scholar Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1869 Emily France F Daur 4 Scholar Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1867 Harriet France F Daur 2 Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1869 1881 census (taken 03/04/1881) : Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability James COOPER Head M Male 28 Gloucester, England Coal Miner Elizth. COOPER Wife M Female 28 Worcester, England Annie COOPER Dau Female 6 Worcester, England Maria COOPER Dau Female 3 Worcester, England Source Information: Dwelling Millstone Hill Census Place Aston Cum Aughton, York, England Family History Library Film 1342129 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4670 / 67 Page Number 23 1891 census: Location: Administrative county: Yorkshire Civil parish: Aston Village: Aston Rural sanitary district: Rotherham Parliamentary borough: Rotherham Eccl. parish/district: All Saints Address: No. 9 Ref: RG12/3844 Household: Elizabeth Cooper, Head, Widow, 39, Living on own means, Worstershire Netherton Ann Cooper, Daur, Single, 16, Worstershire Netherton Marie (Maria?) Cooper, Daur, Single, 13, Worstershire Netherton Elizabeth Cooper, Daur, 9, Yorkshire Aston James Cooper, Son, 4, Yorkshire Aston Lilly Cooper, Daur, 1, Yorkshire Aston Note the absence of James Cooper senior, and Elizabath senior as a widow. So James Cooper <52> died between 1881 and 1891 - useful to know! On the previous image - and living on the same street - is a Robert Cooper, age 66, married to Ann Cooper age 61. Probably the same Robert Cooper <73> who is the father of Annie's <42> father James Cooper <52>. On 05/11/1885, a Mr Cooper, probably James Cooper <52>, bought a childs oak coffin. It is not recorded who it was for. Possibly Lily Cooper, who was born 29/10/1884 and presumably died as a second named Lily Cooper is born 12/06/1889. On 18/01/1890, a Mrs Cooper, probably Elizabeth Cooper <53> bought a coffin. It is not recorded who this was for either. Possibly her father? Search for births for Elizabeth Garrett <53> in Worstershire, born c.1852 (12/02/2004) : Many Elizabeth Garratts (and Garretts), but only one in Worstershire. This one, in Dudley. Dec 1851 GAR/2/10&11 GARRATT, Elizabeth, Dudley, XXIII (XVIII?) / 285(265?) This agrees with the 1891 census which placed her place of birth squarely in Netherton. Recall that Ann Coopers <42> birth in Netherton was in the Dudley district. This is possibly my Elizabeth Garratt. +-- | UPDATE (09/03/2004) : Got the certificate (ordered 21/02/2004, arrived 09/03/2004), | and it's NOT my Liz Garratt. The birth cert for Annie Cooper <42> agrees with the | marriage cert (1q1873, Dudley, 6c/31). The names match, the occupations of James Cooper | (Miner) match, the dates are consistent. | Unfortunately that marriage cert does NOT agree with this Elizabeth Garratt birth certificate. | The marriage gives her father as Mark Garratt, the birth gives Shelah Garratt. The marriage | gives an age of 20 in 1973. That means she was born in at least 1852, and not 1851. | | Also, it's NOT volume 23. What I thought said XXIII actually seems to have been XVIII. | The cert was delayed and the registrar corrected the volume to 18 (writing TR-1 18 on | the receipt thingy). +-- Checked again on 1837online.com (09/03/2004, 10/03/2004) : 1852 births for Elizabeth Garratt: Mar 1852 GAR/2/9 (of 12) (none in Worcestershire) Jun 1852 GAR/2/12 (of 15) GARRATT, Elizabeth, Dudley, 6c/135(136?) GARRATT, Elizabeth, Gt Boughton, 8a/349 (in Cheshire, Flintshire) Sep 1852 GAR/2/10 (of 12) (none in Worcestershire) Dec 1852 GAR/2/ (of 13) GARRATT, Elizabeth, Banbury, 3a/585 GRO birth index: Quarter: Jun 1852 Name: Elizabeth Garratt <53> Mothers maiden name: -- District: Dudley Vol/Page: 6c/135 Researched: 10/09/2004, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 10/03/2004 ; Received 26/03/2004. Birth certificate of Elizabeth Garratt <53> : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Dudley 1852 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Dudley in the County of Worcester No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 116 Eighteenth May 1852 Elizabeth Girl Mark Elizabeth Garratt Furnace Man X The Mark of Fifth June 1852 Thomas Allen Netherton, Dudley Garratt formerly Elizabeth Garratt Registrar Stevens Mother Netherton, Dudley ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A www.freebmd.org.uk search for likely marriages turned up: Marriages Mar 1873 GARRATT, Elizabeth, Dudley, 6c/31 The people marrying on that page were: COOPER James Dudley 6c/31 GARRATT Elizabeth Dudley 6c/31 Morgan Elizabeth Dudley 6c/31 Tilley Joseph Dudley 6c/31 Also, Ann Cooper <42> was born 1875. I think we've found our marriage. Confirmed as present in Mar 1873 in Dudley for James Cooper and Elizabath Garratt in 1837online.com. GRO marriage index: Quarter: Mar 1873 Grooms Name: James Cooper <52> Brides Name: Elizabeth Garratt <53> District: Dudley Vol/Page: 6c/31 Researched: 12/02/2004, www.freebmd.org.uk Certificate: Ordered 21/02/2004. Received 06/03/2004. Marriage certificate of James Cooper <52> and Elizabeth Garratt <53> : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1873 Marriage solumnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of S. Edmund, Dudley in the County of Worcester No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 285 January 27th 1873 James Cooper 20 Bachelor Miner Dudley Robert Cooper Miner Elizabeth Garratt 20 Spinster -- Dudley Mark Garratt Furnace Man Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me (sig) Francis Edmund Wilrut(?) This Marriage in the Curate was solumnized (sig) James Coopers Mark X Presence (sig) John Summer's Mark X between us (sig) Elizbath Garratt's Mark X of us (sig) Sarah Summer's Mark X ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Siblings in 1841: Civil parish: Dudley Hundred: Halfshire (Lower Division) County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street address: Upper Netherton Source information: HO107/1196/18 Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Dudley ED, institution, or vessel: 39 Folio: 25 Page: 23 Line number: 12 GSU Number: 464207 Name MF Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Garratt M 25-29 Furnaceman Y abt 1814 Mark Garratt <100> Elizabeth Garratt F 20-24 Y abt 1819 Elizabeth Stevens <101> Samuel Garratt M 3 Y abt 1838 Mark Garratt M 3 days Y 1841 Siblings in 1851: Civil parish: Dudley Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Upper Netherton Source information: HO107/2033 Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Dudley ED, institution, or vessel: 1ii Folio: 395 Page: 20 Household schedule number: 70 GSU Number: 87440 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Garratt M Head Mar 40 Labourer Netherton, Worcestershire abt 1811 Mark Garratt <100> Elizabeth Garratt F Wife Mar 33 Labourer Wife Netherton, Worcestershire abt 1818 Elizabeth Stevens <101> Mary Ann Garratt F Daur U 15 Labourer Daur Netherton, Worcestershire abt 1836 Samuel Garratt M Son U 12 Labourer Son Netherton, Worcestershire abt 1839 Mark Garratt M Son U 10 Labourer Son Netherton, Worcestershire abt 1841 Fanny Garratt F Daur U 7 Labourer Daur Netherton, Worcestershire abt 1844 William Garratt M Son U 4 Labourer Son Netherton, Worcestershire abt 1847 Shale Garratt M Son U 2 Labourer Son Netherton, Worcestershire abt 1849 [Piece of cloth in Hodgkins family bible] IN LOVING MEMORY OF William Garratt Who fell asleep Sep. 11th, 1919, Aged 73 Years; And was interred at St. Bartholomew's Church, Whittington, September 14th. This William Garratt would have been born c.1846, and matches closely enough the William Garratt in the 1851 census, and is therefore Elizabeths <53> brother. 1881 census on William Garratt born c1847: Civil parish: Aston Cum Aughton County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Millstone Hill Registration district: Rotherham Sub-registration district: Beighton ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Millstone Hill (two doors down from James and Eliz) William Garratt Head Mar 34 Coal Miner Worstershire Nettleton Charlotte Garratt Wife Mar 37 Worstershire Nettleton [This is an error: should read Caroline instead of Charlotte] Eliz'th Garrett Dau 14 Worstershire Nettleton Joseph Garratt Son 11 Scholar Worstershire Nettleton Rosehanah(?) Garratt Dau 9 Scholar Worstershire Nettleton Mark Garratt Son 3 Worstershire Nettleton From Chris Morris: "I don't know if you've downloaded the image of Elizabeth Cooper's (nee Garratt) 1881 census entry but if you have or do then you will find 2 entries on the record of her brother William Garratt listed as being born in Worcester, "Nettleton" and having a wife named "Charlotte". Firstly there is no "Nettleton" in Worcestershire (but there are 2 Nethertons, this one and a farming village at the foot of Breedon Hill) and secondly Williams wife that he married in Netherton was Caroline Miles. The Charlotte listed in the 1881 census comes from Dudley and is the same age as Caroline, so I think that the enumerator probably transcribed the original entry incorrectly. Incidentally I doubt very much that either William or Caroline/Charlotte could write, as both Benjamin Garratt my g grandfather and his wife Elizabeth Smith completed their marriage entries with a cross, so errors in the original census entry plus transcription errors could have easily crept in." 1881 census on Thomas Garratt born c1846: (This was on the same census image as William - no known link to our Garratts but you never know.) Civil parish: Aston Cum Aughton County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Millstone Hill Registration district: Rotherham Sub-registration district: Beighton ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Millstone Hill (two doors up from James and Eliz) Thomas Garret Head Mar 35 Coal Miner Nuneaton Ellen Garret Wife Mar 37 Nuneaton Andrew Garret Son 10 Scholar Nuneaton Amelie Garret Dau 6 Scholar York Aston Thomas Garret Son 5 York Aston John Nash Lodger 27 Coal Miner Wolverhampton William Sommage(?) Lodger 34 Coal Miner Holbury /=============================================================================/ ID: <54> Status: D Name: \John Knapton\ (Y-11) Gender: M Gen: -5 Position: 011000 Born: c1814, Leeds, York, England [67 in 1881 census] Christened 02/01/1814, Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England [IGI] Married: ??? Died: 22/02/1884, Vickersdale, Stanningly [death cert] Between 1881 and 1891 [1881 and 1891 censuses] Jan-Mar 1884, Bramley district [FreeBMD, 1837online] Partner: <55> Child: <39> (Y-11) Father: <115> Mother: <116> Sibling: ??? Notes: From Greville (07/08/2003): The Certificate for John Marshall Knapton shows That he was born at Angel Yard, Mercy Street (that will be West Leeds) And his father was John Knapton (a Spinner) and his mother Hannah Knapton, formerly Wilson. This confirms the information I had found about John and Hannah Knapton in the 1881 Census When Grandson Francis (Gladstone) aged 13 was at their house in Bramley. That also confirms that John Marshall had (at least) two brothers. Marriage certificate of John Marshall Knapton <39> and Emma Ross <40> name John Marshall Knapton <54> as his father, with the profession of Mulespinner. 1841 census: Civil parish: Leeds Town Hundred: Leeds Borough County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Angel Yard Source information: HO107/1349/10 Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: Leeds West ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Folio: 24 Page: 3 Line number: 11 GSU Number: 464292 Name MF Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Knapton M 25-29 Dyer Y abt 1814 John Knapton <54> Hannah Knapton F 20-24 Y abt 1819 Hannah Wilson <55> William Knapton M 1 Y abt 1840 1851 census: Parish: Leeds Eccl district: Saint Philip Borough: Leeds Town: Leeds Address: 11 Charley Street County/Island: Yorkshire Source information: HO107/2321 Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: West Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 2h Folio: 1133 Page: 26 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 110 GSU Number: 87549-87552 Name MF Mar Age Relationship Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Napton M Mar 36 Head Joiner Yorkshire abt 1815 John Knapton <54> Hannah Napton F Mar 31 Wife Yorkshire abt 1820 Hannah Wilson <55> William Napton M 11 Son Scholar Yorkshire abt 1840 William Knapton <<39>> Susanah Napton F 9 Daughter Scholar Yorkshire abt 1842 Susannah Knapton <<39>> John Napton M 6 Son Scholar Yorkshire abt 1845 John Marshall Knapton <39> Mark Napton M 5 Son Yorkshire abt 1846 Mary Napton F 1 Daughter Yorkshire abt 1850 1871 census: Township: Bramley Municipal Borough: Leeds Municipal Ward: Bramley Parliamentary Boro: Leeds Town: Bramley Village: Stanningley Local Board: Leeds Town Council Ecclesiastical District: St Thomas, Stanningley Address: Fowler's Buildings [on New Row - which is also mentioned three households up - ?] Name Rel. M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace John Knapton Head Mar 58 Woollen Spinner Yorkshire Leeds Hannah Knapton Wife Mar 51 Yorkshire Hunslet Wilson Knapton Son Unm 17 Boiler Maker Yorkshire Armley Tom Knapton Son 14 Boiler Maker Yorkshire Bramley Mary A Knapton Daughter 12 Worsted Piecer Yorkshire Bramley James Knapton Son 10 Fiffit Heater Yorkshire Bramley Francis G Knapton Nephew 3 Scholar Yorkshire Stanningley Source information PRO Reference: RG10/4526 Registration district: Bramley Sub-registration district: Bramley ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Folio: 17 Page: 28 Household schedule number: 150 Civil parish: Bramley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England 1881 census: Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability John KNAPTON Head M Male 67 Leeds, York, England Tobacconist Hannah KNAPTON Wife M Female 60 Hunslet, York, England Tom KNAPTON Son U Male 24 Bramley, York, England Boiler Smith James KNAPTON Son U Male 20 Bramley, York, England Labourer Iron Foundry Francis G. KNAPTON G Son Male 13 Stanningley, York, England (()) Source Information: Dwelling New Row Census Place Bramley In Bramley, York, England Family History Library Film 1342078 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4500 / 91 Page Number 34 1891 census: RG12/3673 Civil Parish: Leeds Municipal Borough: Leeds Municipal Ward: Bramley Urban Sanitary District: Leeds Parliamentary Borough/Division: Leeds Ecclesiastical Parish/District: St. Thomas Address: 3 Fern Terrace Hannah Knapton Head Wid 70 Yorkshire Hunslet James Knapton Son M 30 Labourer in Iron Foundry Yorkshire Bramley Mary [A? G? N? M? W?] Knapton Daur in law M 25 Cotton Twister Yorkshire Hunslet Jane Ann(?) Batson Daur of above 3 Yorkshire Bramley Gladstone Knapton Grandson S 23 Labourer in Iron Foundry Yorkshire Pudsey In the 1891 census his wife Hannah <55> is listed as a widow, so John <54> must have died between 1881 and 1891. FreeBMD: Mar 1884, Knapton, John, age 70, Bramley, 9b/221 Confirmed by 1837online.com. IGI: JOHN KNAPTON Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 02 JAN 1814 Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: THOMAS KNAPTON Mother: MARY Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C071931 1813 - 1819 0918380 Film 6900088 Film C071931 1813 - 1819 0918379 Film NONE C071931 1813 - 1819 0918380 Film NONE Sheet: 00 GRO death index: Quarter: Mar 1884 Name: John Knapton <54> Age/DOB: 70 District: Bramley Vol/Page: 9b/221 Researched: 05/01/2004, FreeBMD, 1837online.com. Certificate: Ordered 14/01/2004 ; Received 24/01/2004 John Knaptons <54> death certificate: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Bramley 1884 DEATH in the Sub-district of Bramley in the County of York No. When/where Name Sex Age Occupation Cause of death Informant When reg. Registrar 213 Twenty Second John Male 70 Woollen Apoplexy Thos. M. Knapton Twenty Second John February 1884 Knapton years Spinner Certified by Son of Deceased February 1884 Clough Vickersdale Stanningly Henry J. Presta M.D In Attendance Registrar Vickersdale Stanningly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ /=============================================================================/ ID: <55> Status: D Name: \Hannah Wilson\ (Y-11) Gender: F Gen: -5 Position: 011001 Born: c1821, Hunslet, York, England [1881C] Christened 31/12/1820, Hunslet, Yorkshire, England [IGI] Married: ??? Died: 1898, Bramley district [HK] Partner: <54> Married to John Poulter before John Knapton <54> ? Child: <39> (Y-11) Father: <93> Mother: <94> Sibling: ??? Notes: From Greville (07/08/2003): The Certificate for John Marshall Knapton shows That he was born at Angel Yard, Mercy Street (that will be West Leeds) And his father was John Knapton (a Spinner) and his mother Hannah Knapton, formerly Wilson. This confirms the information I had found about John and Hannah Knapton in the 1881 Census When Grandson Francis (Gladstone) aged 13 was at their house in Bramley. That also confirms that John Marshall had (at least) two brothers. Hugh Knapton (02/02/204): I have now looked at my “Hannah” deaths list, and A-Z’d all the corresponding birth years, and see that there was a Hannah (born 1821) aged 77 who died 3q1898 at BRAMLEY. There is only one other Hannah death that relates to a birth of 1821, and that was in London, so I would think it safe to get the cert, if you wish. Husband John Knapton <54> died between 1881 and 1891. Was John Knapton <54> a second husband after John Poulter, as in http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/AF/family_group_record.asp?familyid=2711836 ?? John Poulter was born c1817, Hunslet, Yorkshire, England, according to that ancestral file. She had a son Wilson Poulter to him, who was born 5 Apr 1843, Hunslet, Yorkshire, England. Wilson Poulter died 2 Oct 1924, Kanesville, Weber, Ut [Utah, USA?] and was buried 5 Oct 1924, Hooper, Weber, Ut [Utah?] Wilson Poulter married Esther GOODYEAR in 1861, Hunslet, Yorkshire, England as well as Martha ALBERS Esther was born 5 Apr 1844, Bradford, Yorkshire, England died 29 May 1880, Kanesville, Weber, Ut buried Hooper, Weber, Ut Parents Alfred GOODYEAR, Haccah Or Acce SHAW Martha was born 26 Jan 1872, Noordbroek, Groningen, Netherlands died 30 Jul 1951, Ogden, Weber, Ut Parents {unknown father} and Johanna ALBERS 1841 census: Civil parish: Leeds Town Hundred: Leeds Borough County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Angel Yard Source information: HO107/1349/10 Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: Leeds West ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Folio: 24 Page: 3 Line number: 11 GSU Number: 464292 Name MF Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Knapton M 25-29 Dyer Y abt 1814 John Knapton <54> Hannah Knapton F 20-24 Y abt 1819 Hannah Wilson <55> William Knapton M 1 Y abt 1840 1851 census: Parish: Leeds Eccl district: Saint Philip Borough: Leeds Town: Leeds Address: 11 Charley Street County/Island: Yorkshire Source information: HO107/2321 Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: West Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 2h Folio: 1133 Page: 26 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 110 GSU Number: 87549-87552 Name MF Mar Age Relationship Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Napton M Mar 36 Head Joiner Yorkshire abt 1815 John Knapton <54> Hannah Napton F Mar 31 Wife Yorkshire abt 1820 Hannah Wilson <55> William Napton M 11 Son Scholar Yorkshire abt 1840 William Knapton <<39>> Susanah Napton F 9 Daughter Scholar Yorkshire abt 1842 Susannah Knapton <<39>> John Napton M 6 Son Scholar Yorkshire abt 1845 John Marshall Knapton <39> Mark Napton M 5 Son Yorkshire abt 1846 Mary Napton F 1 Daughter Yorkshire abt 1850 1871 census: Township: Bramley Municipal Borough: Leeds Municipal Ward: Bramley Parliamentary Boro: Leeds Town: Bramley Village: Stanningley Local Board: Leeds Town Council Ecclesiastical District: St Thomas, Stanningley Address: Fowler's Buildings [on New Row - which is also mentioned three households up - ?] Name Rel. M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace John Knapton Head Mar 58 Woollen Spinner Yorkshire Leeds Hannah Knapton Wife Mar 51 Yorkshire Hunslet Wilson Knapton Son Unm 17 Boiler Maker Yorkshire Armley Tom Knapton Son 14 Boiler Maker Yorkshire Bramley Mary A Knapton Daughter 12 Worsted Piecer Yorkshire Bramley James Knapton Son 10 Fiffit Heater Yorkshire Bramley Francis G Knapton Nephew 3 Scholar Yorkshire Stanningley Source information PRO Reference: RG10/4526 Registration district: Bramley Sub-registration district: Bramley ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Folio: 17 Page: 28 Household schedule number: 150 Civil parish: Bramley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England 1881 census: Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability John KNAPTON Head M Male 67 Leeds, York, England Tobacconist Hannah KNAPTON Wife M Female 60 Hunslet, York, England Tom KNAPTON Son U Male 24 Bramley, York, England Boiler Smith James KNAPTON Son U Male 20 Bramley, York, England Labourer Iron Foundry Francis G. KNAPTON G Son Male 13 Stanningley, York, England (()) Source Information: Dwelling New Row Census Place Bramley In Bramley, York, England Family History Library Film 1342078 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4500 / 91 Page Number 34 1891 census: RG12/3673 Civil Parish: Leeds Municipal Borough: Leeds Municipal Ward: Bramley Urban Sanitary District: Leeds Parliamentary Borough/Division: Leeds Ecclesiastical Parish/District: St. Thomas Address: 3 Fern Terrace Hannah Knapton Head Wid 70 Yorkshire Hunslet James Knapton Son M 30 Labourer in Iron Foundry Yorkshire Bramley Mary [A? G? N? M? W?] Knapton Daur in law M 25 Cotton Twister Yorkshire Hunslet Jane Ann(?) Batson Daur of above 3 Yorkshire Bramley Gladstone Knapton Grandson S 23 Labourer in Iron Foundry Yorkshire Pudsey Is this Hannah's christening in the IGI? HANNAH WILSON Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 31 DEC 1820 Hunslet, Yorkshire, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN WILSON Mother: SUSANNA Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C009612 1813 - 1837 0918397 Film 6909754 Film Sheet: 00 Item 1 Bishop's transcripts, 1813-1843 Church of England. Chapelry of Hunslet (Yorkshire) Item 2 Bishop's transcripts, 1829-1854 Church of England. Chapelry of Kirkstall (Yorkshire) The chances are this _is_ our Hannah. LDS submissions to the IGI include: Hannah Wilson Female Event(s): Birth: 1821 Hunslet, Yorkshire, England Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: John Poulter Marriage: About 1842 , Yorkshire, England Messages: Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter. Source Information: No source information is available. While it has to be taken with a gigantic pinch of salt, could this indicate our Hannah also married John Poulter? Where might we find other evidence to refute or confirm this? /=============================================================================/ ID: <56> Status: D Name: \Williamson Glover\ Gender: M Gen: -4 Position: 00010 Born: 02/06/1861, Brampton Moor, Brampton, Chesterfield, Derbyshire [birth certificate] 1861 [Bedgreave document] 1881 census confirms born c1862, Brampton, Chesterfield, Derbyshire [1881C] 1891 census confirms born c1861, Chesterfield, Derbyshire. [1891C] 1901 census confirms born c1862, Brampton, Derbyshire [1901C] 1911 census confirms born c1862, Brampton, Derbyshire [1911C] Married: 13/12/1885, "the parish church in the parish of Sheffield", Sheffield, Yorkshire Died: 05/07/1933, "George and Dragon" Hotel, Beighton, Yorkshire [death cert] 1933 [Bedgreave doc] Partner: <57> Child: <44> Father: <80> Mother: <81> Sibling: \George Glover:1854\ - born 1854 Presumably died young, as there is a second sibling named George who was born about 1874. This is confirmed by the text in the document: "[Williamson and Eleanor Glover] had 8 children. Five were still at home - George Born 1854 had died." [bedgreave doc] \Mary Elizabeth Glover:1857\ - born 1857, Worksop, Nottinghamshire Aged 43 in 1901, so born c1858, Worksop, Nottinghamshire; Miller + farmer; living at Bedgreave Mill Ho, Wales, Waleswood, Yorkshire [1901C] "Mary Elizabeth married James H Dawson of Bedgreave. When James died in 1882 the Glover family moved in with Mary E. to help run the mill - she had 3 children - twins Eleanor and Frank aged 1 and Edwin aged 4." [bedgreave doc] "Mary Elizabeth Glover married to James Henry Dawson, of North Scarle and Eagle, on the Trent. They are recorded as corn millers at the 1881 census (see fig 9) - Bedgreave. James took on the mill when he returned from India with the army. The mill was still waterpowered. When Holbrook Pit took his water away they were forced to supply him with coal for a steam powered engine. At 32 years of age James died of a stroke when working in the mill. Mary and James had 3 children ..." [bedgreave doc] Married \James Henry Dawson:1850\ (1850-1882) James is deceased by 1901 as the 1901 census entry for Mary Elizabeth Glover states her to be a widow. [1901C] They had children \Eleanor Dawson:1881\ - born 1881, Bedgreave, Yorkshire (twin of Frank) Eleanor E Dawson aged 20 in 1901, so born c1881, Bedgreave, Yorkshire; Miller; living at Bedgreave Mill Ho, Wales, Waleswood, Yorkshire [1901C] "Eleanor (Nellie) who married Mr Shaw from Winsford in Cheshire - they took their family back to Cheshire." [bedgreave doc] Eleanor married \Gary Shaw:c1881\, and had children \James Shaw:1910\ (1910) \Molley Shaw:1906\ (1906) \Enid Shaw:1908\ (1908) \Bessie Shaw:1917\ (1917) Bessie married \____ Pardo:c1917\. \Frank Dawson:1881\ - born 1881, Bedgreave, Yorkshire (twin of Eleanor) Frances B Dawson aged 18 in 1901, so born c1883, Bedgreave, Yorkshire; "Miller fRelson"; living at Bedgreave Mill Ho, Wales, Waleswood, Yorkshire [1901C] Francis Dawson aged 28 in 1911; born c1883, Wales, Yorkshire; "Miller (Corn)", living at Bedgreave Mill, Wales, nr Sheffield [1911C] *** Is it significant both 1901 and 1911 give Franks year of birth as 1883, not 1881 as the bedgreave doc stated? *** "Frank who bought Warsop Mill - his son Eric still runs the mill for feedstuffs." [bedgreave doc] Frank married \Mabel Watson:c1881\, and had a son \Eric Dawson\. \Edwin Dawson:1878:1930\ - born 1878, Bedgreave, Yorkshire; died 1930 Edwin G Dawson aged 22 in 1901, so born c1879, Bedgreave, Yorkshire; "Miller fRelson"; living at Bedgreave Mill Ho, Wales, Waleswood, Yorkshire [1901C] "Edwin (Ted) - miller at Bedgreave until his death in 1930. His first wife - Emily Wilson was a school teacher at Wales - She died 1912 leaving Ted with a 15 year old daughter Mary. Emily had been taking part in a church production, but was not released from work to practise. On the sound of the bell she ran from the school, cutting across the Vicarage garden. She tripped over a tent-peg and injured her left-arm. This was taken off by surgeons Graham Simpson and Garrick Wilson at Sheffield Royal Hospital. Emily died of Sarcoma Cancer." [bedgreave doc] Edwin married first wife \Emily Wilson:1878:1912\ (1878-1912) Emily had a brother \Samual Wilson\, who married \Catherine ____\ (from Skyby) Catherine had siblings \Anne ____\, \Sira ____\ and \Julia ____\. Julia married \Charles Ashley\. Edwin and Emily had a child \Mary K.A. Dawson:1910:c2002\ (1910-c2002) "Mary (daughter) went to live with Aunt Julia and Charles Ashley in Wales. She visited the mill regularly and married Mr William Godfrey from Wales - his father was a hauler of coal. Mary K A. Godfrey still has many fond memories of Bedgreave Mill." [bedgreave doc] Mary died in approx 2002, possibly in the region of Rother Valley Country Park [RVCP] She lived in the farmhouse that is now the Parks Office of Rother Valley Park when she was young, and later lived in Bedgreave Mill. [RVCP] Mary married \William Godfrey:c1910\, with child \Christopher Godfrey:1948\ (1948, probably LIVING), Christopher married \Janet ____:1946\ (1946, probably LIVING) Chris and Janet had a son \Philip Godfrey\ (probably LIVING) Edwin married second wife \Lucy Nicholas:c1878\ (his housekeeper) "Ted continued as miller - having many housekeepers to help with domestic chores. Later Ted married Mrs Nicholas the housekeeper. She had a son Tommy Nicholas. Ted and Lucy had two sons Bernard and Jim, and a daughter Dorrie, who married Mr Reg Smith of Manor Farm - his brother had a farm on Jonny Cauldrells [?] Lane." [bedgreave doc] Lucy already had a son, \Tommy ____\ (from a previous marriage) Edwin and Lucy had children \Francis Bernard Dawson:1920\ (1920) \James Edwin Dawson:1918\ (1918) \Dorethea Dawson:1916\ (1916) Dorethea married \Reg Smith:c1916\, with children \Norma Smith\ (probably LIVING) Norma married \Malcolm Shinwell\ (probably LIVING), with child \Robert Shinwell\ (probably LIVING) Robert married with children: \Jordan Shinwell\ (probably LIVING) \Robert Shinwell\ (probably LIVING) \Carol Smith:1945\ (1945, probably LIVING) Carol married \Pat Hudson:c1945\ (probably LIVING) with children: \Fiona Hudson\ (probably LIVING) \Paul Hudson\ (probably LIVING) \Angela Smith:1947\ (1947, probably LIVING) James Dawson had a sister \Jane Dawson\, who married \John Thorton\ \Jane Glover:1859:1941\ - born 15/03/1859; died 1941 [bedgreave doc] "Jane Glover married George Mirfin and lived in a lean-to opposite the old George and Dragon Hotel in Beighton. He was a cartwright, wheelwright, joiner and undertaker. He built new workshops and houses at the bottom of Manvers Road. George built the footbridge over the Rother between Beighton and Bedgreave. It was a simple narrow structure. He and his brother-in-law George of Bedgreave built extensions to the mill at Killamarsh. He owned fields down to Queens Road and off Station Road. Jane and George had 6 children ..." [bedgreave doc] In 1871: Recorded with uncle Joseph Glover <<80>>; Neice; Aged 12, born Handsworth/Woodhouse, Yorkshire; Living at Low Hill (Bow Hill?), Handsworth/Woodhouse, Sheffield, Yorkshire [1871C] Married \George Mirfin:1855:1939\ (21/01/1855-1939) Jane and George had children \Williamson Mirfin\ (died as a baby [bedgreave doc]) \Florence Ethel Mirfin:1880\ (13/??/1880) "[Florence] managed the kitchens of several wealthy gentlemen in London. One was the famous Sussex cricketer K.S.Raryiksinkyi [Rasyiksinkyi?], partner of Killick 1910. He was very fond of Florrie and gave her a signed photo of his team when they played Yorkshire." [bedgreave doc] \George Williamson Mirfin:1882\ (27/03/1882) "George returned from the war where he had a reputation for handling frightened horses. He repaired gun carriages at the front." [bedgreave doc] \Mary Elizabeth Mirfin:1884:1916\ (25/05/1884-1916) "Mary Elizabeth died during the first W.War of diabetes." [bedgreave doc] \Eleanor Glover Mirfin:1887\ (25/07/1887) "Eleanor married Mr William Hird who was Chief Clerk at the Victoria Railway Station Sheffield. They had 2 daughters, Olga Mirfin and Margaret. Their son Ralph continues the family business after serving in the navy." [bedgreave doc] Eleanor Mirfin married \William Hird:c1887\ with children: \Olga Hird\ Olga married \John Ronald Long\ with children: \Richard Long\ (probably LIVING) \Margaret Long\ (probably LIVING) \Francis Long\ (probably LIVING) Francis married \Jackie ____\ (probably LIVING) with children: \David Long\ (probably LIVING) \Elizabeth Long\ (probably LIVING) \Johnathon Long\ (probably LIVING) \Bernard Long\ (probably LIVING) Bernard married \Anne ____\ (probably LIVING) with children: \Richard Long\ (probably LIVING) \Andrew Long\ (probably LIVING) \Margaret Hird\ Margaret married \Derek Ashworth\ \Ralph Hird\ Ralph married \Theo ____\ with children: \Jane Hird\ (probably LIVING) Jane married \Nigel ____\ (probably LIVING) \Louise Hird\ (probably LIVING) \Jessie Oates Mirfin:1889\ (20/08/1889) "Jessie was a school teacher at Beighton Infants School when Miss Tuinmins [?] was the headmistress. Jessie took part in local pantomimes and had holidays on cruise ships in the Mediteranean Sea." [bedgreave doc] George Mirfin had siblings \John Mirfin\ and \Arthur Mirfin\ and parents \George Mirfin:1810:1881\ (1810-1881) (24/12/1816) and \Elizabeth ____:1821:1890\ (1821-1890) (22/01/1820) (A scanned handwritten family bible reads: 'George Mirfin born 1816' and 'George Mirfin Born December 24th 1816' Are these the same George as was written in the document was born in 1821? The same scanned pages say on Elizabeth: 'Elizabeth Mirfin born 1820' and 'Elizabeth Mirfin Born Jan 22nd 1820' The years of 1810 and 1821 came from the graphical trees.) Who is \Ann Elizabeth Mirfin:1864\, born 11/11/1864? Georges sister? [written on the 'Mirfin family bible' scan] Who is \John Mirfin:1841\ born 22/08/1841? Georges brother? [written on the 'Mirfin family bible' scan] Who is \Ann Mirfin:1844\ Born 10/02/1844? Georges sister? An Ann Mirfin is also recorded who died 05/06/1851 - the same Ann? [written on the 'Mirfin family bible' scan] \Marie Glover\ - birth year unknown, but probably either in about the 1860s (the other alternative, given that she doesn't appear in the 1881 census with Annie, Joseph, Sarah and George, is *after* the 1881 census, and she has a duaghter in 1884!) "Joesph Oates married Marie an Opera singer, pantomime artist and pianist from Bradford. They used to visit Polly regularly. Marie told fortunes." [bedgreave doc] Married \Joseph Oates:1868:1914\ (1868-1914) \Annie Glover:c1865\ - c1865, Brampton, Chesterfield, Derbyshire [1881C] "Annie Glover (the image of Jane) married Mr Mosley the Stationmaster at Hull. He was an inventor in the early days of electricity. The invention of a massage vibrator is attributed to him. They had 2 daughters Marion and Mary. Mary went to the Royal School of Needlework, London. She worked for Chilpruf until the outbreak of W.War 2 when she made paras [porac? parac?] for the war effort. Mr Mosley had 2 brothers. One was Stationmaster at Cleethorpes - he married Polly's sister Sally Fairburn. A photo of Annie and a group of school children are displayed on the wall in Crystal Peaks - she was a teacher at [some text seems missing here]" [bedgreave doc] Another source says birth in 1863 [bedgreave doc], which disagrees with the 1881 census 1881 census says she was a 17 year old "Pupil Teacher (School)"; born in Brampton, Chesterfield ; living at Manvers Rd, Beighton, Derbyshire [1881C] 1891 census says she was age 26, born Chesterfield, Derbyshire; living at 63 Nottingham Street, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield [1891C] Married \Frederick Mosley:c1863\ (born c1863 [1891 census]), brother of Sally Fairburns' (see <57>) husband Fred Mosley in 1891 is age 27; a Railway Clerk; born in Beighton, Derbyshire; living at 63 Nottingham Street, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield [1891C] In 1891 brother Joseph G. Glover is recorded in the census with Annie and Fred. In the same 1891 census a daughter, \Marianne Mosley:c1888\, is recorded aged 2 (so born c.1888), born Sheffield, Yorkshire. The Bedgreave document also records another daughter \Mary Mosley\, though no date is given. \Joseph G Glover:c1867\ - born c1867 [1881 census, 1891 census], Masbro, Yorkshire [census] In 1891: Joseph G. Glover is recorded in the census with sister Annie Glover and Fred Mosley [1891C] He is recorded as being single at the time; aged 23; a Grocers Assistant; born in Masbro, Yorkshire; living at 63 Nottingham Street, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield [1891C] Recorded in 1871 as aged 3, with name Joseph Oates Glover [1871C] In 1901: Recorded as Joseph O Glover; Aged 33; Grocer's Assistant; born Yorks Masbro; living at 237 Tonge Moor Rd, Bolton, Lancashire; with 'Deaf/Blind/Lunatic/Imbecile' column ticked [1901C] He is recorded with wife \Maria ____:c1867\; age 34 (so born c1867); Contralto Music Vocalist (living on own account, not employed); born Yorks Scarboro [1901C] She also has the 'Deaf/Blind/Lunatic/Imbecile' column ticked [1901C] \Sarah Glover:1871\ - born 1871, Sheffield, Yorkshire [bedgreave doc][1881C][1901C] "Sarah Glover (Aunt Sally) married Albert Stafford (Engineer). They met when he came to work on the iron bridge crossing the River Rother at Killamarsh. They lived in the red brick cottage at Bedgreave - with their 3 sons. The house was crammed with furniture and a piano. Albert played the violin. Jim was killed in the 14-18 war. When Sarah and Albert went to live in Bromsgrove with son Reg, William (Billy) and his wife Dorris lived in the cottage. Later they emmigrated to Australia. Sarah and Albert continued to travel the country - wherever his work took them (See fig 12). M E Dawson sent them a card showing the mill in 1905 - to Cardiff." [bedgreave doc] Aged 30 in 1901, so born c1871, Sheffield, Yorkshire; Unmarried; living at Bedgreave Mill Ho, Wales, Waleswood, Yorkshire [1901C] 1881 census confirms born c1871, Sheffield, York, England [1881C] 1871 census states Sarah was 3 weeks old at the time of the census, so born March-April 1871 [1871C] Married \Albert Stafford:c1871\ Children \James Glover Stafford:c1900:1918\ - born c1900, New Mills, Derbyshire [1901C]; died 19/07/1918, France [CWGC] Known as Jim. James G Stafford aged 1 in 1901, so born c1900, New Mills, Derbyshire; living at Bedgreave Mill Ho, Wales, Waleswood, Yorkshire [1901C] James in the CWGC database - he therefore died 19/07/1918 in France : Name: STAFFORD, JAMES GLOVER Initials: J G Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: West Yorkshire Regiment (Prince of Wales's Own) Unit Text: 15th Bn. Date of Death: 19/07/1918 Service No: 55479 Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: II. D. 5. (Plot 2, Row D, Grave 5 - see map of Merville Cemetery Extension) Cemetery: MERVILLE COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION "Merville is a town 15 kilometres north of Bethune and 20 kilometres south-east of Armentieres. The Communal Cemetery is on the north-east side of the town to the north side of the road to Neuf-Berquin. The Extension is now surrounded by the Communal Cemetery." \William Stafford\ William married \Doris ____\ \Reg Stafford\ \George Glover:c1874:1933\ - born c1874, Yorkshire, England [1881C][1901C] ; died 1933 [bedgreave doc] "George Cates Glover lived in the top of the farmhouse at Bedgreave looking out to Swallownest. He lived through many changes at the mill. He was an engine driver for the L.N.E.R. and as well as helping round the mill he worked for his brother in law George Mirfin. He nearly drowned one foggy night when he was returning from Beighton. George missed the bridge near the farm." [bedgreave doc] born 1871; died 1933 [bedgreave doc] Aged 27 in 1901, so born c1874, Bedgreave, Yorkshire; Unmarried; Railway Engine Stoker; living at Bedgreave Mill Ho, Wales, Waleswood, Yorkshire [1901C] Aged 37 in 1911; born c1874, Wales, Yorkshire; Unmarried; Railway Engine Driver; living at Bedgreave Mill, Wales, nr Sheffield - with nephew Frank Dawson [1911C] 1881 census states born c1874, Beighton, Yorkshire; living at Manvers Rd, Beighton, Yorkshire [1881C] Present at the deaths of both father Williamson Glover <80> and mother Eleanor Glover <81> in 1896 and 1919 respectively. Notes: Hilda's <44> mother was Mary Fairburn <57> who died in 1941. Her Father was Williamson Glover <56>, who lived 1861 to 1933. Williamson Glovers <56> father was Williamson Glover <80> who lived 1828-1896. His mother was Eleanor Oates <81>, living 1832-1919. Recorded on Hilda Glovers <44> birth certificate in 1886 as a Corn Miller (Journeyman) living in Beighton. Williamson Glovers <56> birth certificate: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Chesterfield in the County of Derby 1861 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Chesterfield in the County of Derby. No. When/Where Born Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When Reg. Registar 32 Second June 1861 Williamson Boy Williamson Eleanor Glover Corn Miller Eleanor Glover Seventeenth Robert Shaw Brampton Moor, Brampton Glover formerly Oates Journeyman Mother June 1861 Registar Brampton Moor, Brampton --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Williamson Glovers <56> and Mary Fairburns <57> marriage certificate: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1855 Marriage solemnised at the parish church in the parish of Sheffield in the County of York No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence Fathers Name Profession of Father 93 December 13 Williamson Glover 25 Bachelor Miller 43 Scotland Street Williamson Glover Miller 1855 Mary Fairburn 19 Spinster -- 47 Scotland Street William Fairburn Miller Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church, by -- or after Bannes by me, (sig) Gamalid Milner This marriage was (sig) Williamson Glover in the (sig) George Mirfin solumnized between us, (sig) Mary Fairburn Presence of us (sig) John Kirk ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Williamson Glovers <56> death certificate: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Chesterfield 1933 DEATH in the Sub-district of Eckington in the County of Derby No. When/Where Born Name Sex Age Occupation Cause of death Informant When Reg. Registar 342 Fifth July 1933 Williamson Male 72 Licensed 1(a) Myocardial M.E.Ward Sixth July J.E.Cope "George and Dragon" Hotel, Glover years Victualler degeneration Grand-daughter 1933 Registar Beighton RD No Srn(?) Present at the Death Certified by George and Dragon Hotel George R. L____(?) MB Beighton --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- M.E.Ward would be Mary Elizabeth Ward, sister of John Ward <7>. Bedgreave document (on parents Williamson Glover and Eleanor) : "[Williamson and Eleanor Glover] had 8 children. Five were still at home. [...] Williamson died 1896 but Eleanor lived 37 years at the mill - a tall gentle old lady in a white lace cap and shawl - see collection of photos." [also more info on Williamson <56>'s siblings included in their information above.] Bedgreave document (on Williamson Glover and Mary Fairburn) : "[...] [Williamson] was also recorded as a Corn Miller at Beighton. [...]" "Williamson Glover married Mary Fairburn (Polly) - his cousin. He worked as a corn miller at Joey Glovers Mill in Beighton (see figs 8 and 10) with his father. Polly's sister Eleanor was married to the Licensee of the George and Dragon Hotel, Beighton, a Mr Harry Hutton. When they left to take the Marquis of Granby at Bamford Derbyshire, Williamson and Polly took the 'George' (see fig 11). They had 3 children, Hilda, Annie and Francis Williamson. Polly reared ponies and showed them locally. Francis (Frank) used to ride Jonny the grey pony in processions and carnivals in fancy dress at Whitsuntide in the village. Mr and Mrs Glover used to visit Bedgreave in their pony tub [?] or trap with a grey horse Birdie. Frank was killed in the 1914-18 war just before the armistice. Hilda Glover married John Ward a joiner at the 'Salt house' making ammonium sulphate for export during 1914-18 war. He was an athlete and footballer who lived with relatives in Woodhouse. There is a road named after him." "When Williamson died Polly kept the 'George'. During the 2nd W.War a land mine dropped near the railway and River Rother. It blasted the front of the Hotel breaking windows, shredding curtains and damaging the interior - bottles of spirit were untouched but the shock killed Polly 2 weeks later. It was said a direct hit on the railway would have wiped out the village. Annie married Mr Purley." GRO reference from ancestry.co.uk (Civil Registration Index) : Glover, Williamson Year: 1861 Quarter: September Record Type: Births Volume: 7b District: Chesterfield Page: 546 NB. This seems to be WRONG. A search on 1837online.com, including the page image itself, shows this should say JUNE 1861. 1871 census: Township: Sheffield Municipal Borough: Sheffield Municipal Ward: St Peter Parliamentary Boro: Sheffield Town: Sheffield Local Board: Sheffield Ecclesiastical District: St Mary Address: 16 St Mary's Road Name Rel. M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace Williamson Glover Head marr 43 Corn Miller Journeyman Lincolnshire Willingham Eleanor Glover Wife marr 39 (37?) Notts Worksop Mary Eliz'th Glover daur 13 Notts Worksop Williamson Glover son 9 Scholar Derbyshire Chesterfield Annie Glover daur 7 Scholar Derbyshire Chesterfield Joseph Oates Glover son 3 Yorkshire Masbro Sarah Glover daur 3 weeks Yorkshire Sheffield Source information: PRO Reference RG10/4685 Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: South Sheffield ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Folio: 70 Page: 28 Household schedule number: 142 1881 Census: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability William GLOVER Head M Male 53 Willingham, Lincoln, England Corn Miller Eleanor GLOVER Wife M Female 49 South Lodge, Nottingham, England Corn Miller Wife Williamson GLOVER Son U Male 19 Brampton Chesterfield Corn Miller Annie GLOVER Daur U Female 17 Brampton Chesterfield Pupil Teacher (School) Joseph GLOVER Son Male 13 Masbro, York, England Scholar Sarah GLOVER Daur Female 10 Sheffield, York, England Scholar George GLOVER Son Male 7 Beighton, Derby, England Scholar Source Information: Dwelling Manvers Rd Census Place Beighton, Derby, England Family History Library Film 1342129 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4670 / 31 Page Number 56 1891 Census: Glover, Williamson Relationship: Head County: Derbyshire Age: 29 Civil Parish: Beighton Gender: Male ED: 1 Where Born: Derbyshire, Chesterfield Eccl. Parish: St Mary Piece: RG12/3844 Town: Beighton Folio: 24 Page: 41 Civil parish: Beighton Town: Beighton Rural sanitary district: Rotherham Parliamentary borough: N. Derbyshire Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Administrative county: Derby Page 41 schedule 219: Main Rd Name Relation M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace Williamson Glover Head M 29 Miller Chesterfield, Derbyshire Mary Glover Wife M 25 Woodhouse, Yorkshire Hilda Glover Daur 4 Beighton, Derbyshire Annie Glover Daur 10m Beighton, Derbyshire James _ Waddington Boarder S 21 Clerk Retford, Nottinghamshire 1901 Census on Mary Elizabeth Dawson (Mary Elizabeth Glover) : Street address: Bedgreave Mill Ho Civil parish: Wales Ecclesiastical parish: Wales St John Town: Waleswood County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Worksop Sub-registration district: Anston ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 168 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3128; Folio: 89; Page: 34. Name Relation M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace Deaf/Dumb/Blind/Imbecile EstBYear Mary E Dawson Head Wid 43 Miller + farmer Notts Worksop / about 1858 Edwin G Dawson Son S 22 Miller fRelson Yorks Bedgreave about 1879 Eleanor E Dawson Daur S 20 Miller Yorks Bedgreave about 1881 Frances B Dawson Son S 18 Miller fRelson Yorks Bedgreave about 1883 Eleanor Glover Mother Wid 69 Notts Worksop / about 1832 Sarah Stafford Sister M 30 Yorks Sheffield about 1871 George Glover Bro. S 27 Railway Engine Stoker Yorks Bedgreave about 1874 James G Stafford Nephew S 1 Derbys New Mills about 1900 1901 census: ---- PRO Reference Schedule Number: RG Number Series Piece Folio Page RG13 3259 100 38 180 Address High St Civil Parish Beighton Rural District -- Town or Village or Hamlet Beighton Parliamentary Borough or Division North Eastern Ecclesiastical Parish Beighton Administrative County Derby County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District -- Ward of Municipal Borough or Urban District -- -- William Glover Relation to Head of Family Head Condition as to Marriage M Age Last Birthday 39 Sex M Profession or Occupation Coal Miner Filler Employment Status Worker Where Born Derbys Brampton Language -- Infirmity -- -- Mary Glover Relation to Head of Family Wife Condition as to Marriage M Age Last Birthday 35 Sex F Profession or Occupation Dressmaker Employment Status Own Account working at home Where Born Yorks Woodhouse Language -- Infirmity -- -- Hilda Glover Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage -- Age Last Birthday 14 Sex F Profession or Occupation School Employment Status Undefined Where Born Derby Beighton Language -- Infirmity -- -- Annie Glover Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage -- Age Last Birthday 10 Sex F Profession or Occupation School Employment Status Undefined Where Born Derby Beighton Language -- Infirmity -- -- Francis W Glover Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage -- Age Last Birthday 2 Sex M Profession or Occupation -- Employment Status Undefined Where Born Derby Beighton Language -- Infirmity -- ---- 1871 entry for Jane Glover: Address: Low Hill (Bow Hill?) Civil parish: Handsworth Town: Woodhouse County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: Handsworth ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 11 Name Relation Marr Age MF Occupation WhereBorn Joseph Glover Head Mar 29 M Grocer Lincoln Saxilby Elizabeth Glover Wife Mar 30 F - Yorks Woodhouse Mary Eliz'th Glover D'r Unm 5 F - Yorks Handsworth Wm Searbro Glover Son Unm 4m M - Yorks Woodhouse James Brookes Servant Unmar 39 M Grocers Assistant Yorks Barnsley Martha Larwack Servant Unmar 17 F Domestic servant Yorks Handsworth Jane Glover Niece Unmar 12 F - Yorks Hands'th Woodhouse 1891 Census entry for Annie and Fred Mosley, and bro-in-law Joseph: Glover, Joseph G Relationship: Brother-in-law County: Yorkshire Age: 23 Civil Parish: Brightside Bierlow Gender: Male ED: 8 Where Born: Yorkshire, Masbro [Transcription said Yorkshire, Newbrough - wrongly] Eccl. Parish: Wicker Trinity Piece: RG12/3829 Town: Folio: 10 Page: 14 Civil parish: Brightside, Bierlow Town: Rural sanitary district: Parliamentary borough: Ecclesiastical parish: Administrative county: Sheffield Page 14 schedule 79: 63 Nottingham Street Name Relation M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace Frederick Mosley Head M 27 Railway Clerk Beighton, Derbyshire Annie Mosley Wife M 26 Chesterfield, Derbyshire Marianne Mosley Daur 2 Sheffield, Yorkshire Joseph G. Glover Brother in law S 23 Grocers Assistant Masbro, Yorkshire 1837online.com births search for Williamson Glover (23/10/2003) : Mar 1861 GLO/2 GLOVER, William, Liverpool, 8b/152 GLOVER, William, Prescot, 8b/499 GLOVER, William, Wellingbro, 3b/143 GLOVER, William, Camberwell, 1d/521 GLOVER, William, Kensington, 1a/132 GLOVER, William, Prescot, 8b/488 GLOVER, William Henry, Prescot, 8b/491 Jun 1861 GLO/2 GLOVER, Williamson, Chesterfield, 7b/546 **************** 4 other William's Sep 1861 GLO/1 several William's Dec 1861 GlO/1 several William's GRO birth index: Quarter: Jun 1861 Name: Williamson Glover Mothers maiden name: ??? District: Chesterfield Vol/Page: 7b/546 Researched: 23/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 27/10/2003. Received 05/11/2003. 1837online.com deaths search for Williamson Glover (23/10/2003) : Mar 1933 GLO/2 several William's Jun 1933 GLO/2 GLOVER, William, 67, Wolverhampton, 6b/469 {{had to disable firewall}} Sep 1933 GLO/2 GLOVER, Williamson, 72, Chesterfield, 7b/671 ********************************* GRO death index: Quarter: Sep 1933 Name: Williamson Glover Age/DOB: 72 District: Chesterfield Vol/Page: 7b/671 Researched: 23/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 27/10/2003. Received 05/11/2003. 1837online.com marriages for Mary Fairburn and Williamson Glover 1881-1891 (25/10/2003) : Mar 1885 FAI/1 one Mary Fairbairn, Newcastle T., 10b/37 Jun 1885 FAI/1 -- Sep 1885 FAI/1 -- Dec 1885 FAI/1 Mary Fairburn, Sheffield, 9c/647 ****************** GLO/1 Williamson Glover, Sheffield, 9c/647 ************** GRO marriage index: Quarter: Dec 1885 Grooms Name: Williamson Glover Brides Name: Mary Fairburn District: Sheffield Vol/Page: 9c/647 Researched: 25/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 27/10/2003. Received 05/11/2003. 1837online search for birth of Joseph Glover (08/05/2004) : Sep 1866 GLO/1 GLOVER, Joseph, Prescot, 8b/601 GLOVER, Joseph I, Preston, 8e/501(601?) GLOVER, Joseph W, Nottingham, 7b/220 Dec 1866 GLO/2 GLOVER, Joseph, Warrington, 8c/138 GLOVER, Joseph, Stourbridge, 6c/229 GLOVER, Joseph, Southwell, 7b/257 GLOVER, Joseph, W.Derby, 8c/340 Mar 1867 GLO/1 GLOVER, Joseph, Chorley, 8c/427 GLOVER, Joseph Ellis, Ashton (Ashlon?), 8d/426 Jun 1867 GLO/1 GLOVER, Joseph, Newbury, 2c/240 Sep 1867 GLO/2 -- Dec 1867 GLO/2 GLOVER, James Joseph, W.Derby, 8b/493 Mar 1868 GLO/2 GLOVER, Joseph, Clerkenwell, 1b/686 GLOVER, Joseph Oates, Rotherham, 9c/535 Jun 1868 GLO/1 GLOVER, Joseph Henry, Stourbridge, 6c/188(?) Sep 1868 GLO/1 GLOVER, Joseph, W.Derby, 8b/456 GLOVER, Joseph Robinson, W.Derby, 8b/375(875?) Dec 1868 GLO/1 GLOVER, Joseph, Bury, 8c/476 GLOVER, Joseph Dean, Wigan, 8c/44 Gareth Horne, Rother Valley Country Park (RCVP) Rangers, 21/01/2004 : "The last known resident [of Bedgreave Mill] to my knowledge was Mary Godfrey who lived in the farmhouse that is now the parks office when she was a girl. I did meet her when I first started work here in 1992, however she died a couple of years ago. I Do recall she had a son called Christopher but unfortunately I do not have any idea where he lives or contact details." So Mary Godfrey, nee Mary K A Dawson, died in approximately 2002. 1901 census for Joseph G Glover: Administrative County: Lancashire Civil Parish: Bolton Eccl Parish: Tonge, St Augustines County Borough: Bolton Ward of Municipal Borough: Tonge Parliamentary Division: Westhaughton Address: 237 Tonge Moor Rd Name Rel Marr Age Occupation Empl/Wrkr Birthplace Deaf/Blind/Lunatic/Imbecile ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph G(?) Glover Head M 33 Grocer's Assistant Worker Yorks Masbro {ticked} Maria Glover Wife M 34 Contralto Music Vocalist Own Account Yorks Scarboro {ticked} 1911 Census - Williamson Glover (1828) and Mary (Polly), with son Francis --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN21131 RG78PN1259 RD438 SD4 ED1 SN240 Schedule Number: 240 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Derbyshire District: Chesterfield Subdistrict: Eckington Enumeration District: 1 Parish: Beighton -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Williamson Glover Head M 49 Married 5 3 2 Publican George & Dragon Inn Brampton Derbys c1862 <56> Mary Glover Wife F 45 Married 25 Woodhouse Derbys c1866 Mary Fairburn <57> Francis W Glover Son M 12 School Beighton Derbys c1899 <<44>> Phoebe Hall Servant F 17 Single General Servant Domestic Woodhouse Derbys c1894 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 8 Signature (sig) Williamson Glover Postal Address George & Dragon, Beighton, Sheffield --------------------------------------------------------- 1911 Census - Francis (Frank) Dawson, grandmother Eleanor Glover (Eleanor Oates), and uncle George Glover --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN20254 RG78PN1213 RD427 SD3 ED7 SN227 Schedule Number: 227 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Nottinghamshire District: Worksop Subdistrict: Anston Enumeration District: 7 Parish: Wales -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis Dawson Head M 28 Single - - - - Miller (Corn) Employer - Yorkshire Wales c1883 Frank Dawson <<56>> Eleanor Glover Grandmother F 79 Widow - - - Nottinghamshire Wolbeck c1832 Eleanor Oates <81> George Glover Boarder M 37 Single - - - - Railway Engine Driver Worker - Yorkshire Wales c1874 <<56>> George Binns Boarder M 23 Single - - - - Millers Carter Worker - Yorkshire Aston c1888 Alice Julien Servant F 18 Single - - - - Servant (Domestic) Worker - Derbyshire Killamarsh c1893 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 10 Signature (sig) Francis Dawson Postal Address Bedgreave Mill, Wales, nr Sheffield --------------------------------------------------------- Scanned pages of handwritten text in the bedgreave document, which appear to be from a Mirfin family bible, read: ################################################ # George Mirfin Jan ?? Born Jan 21 1855 # ------------------- # George Mirfin Jan 21 1855 # ------------------- # Ann Elizabeth Mirfin Born November 11th 1864 # {rest of the column is unreadble} # # {new column on same page} # George Mirfin Born 1816 # Elizabeth Mirfin Born 1820 # John Mirfin Born 1847 # ------------------- # George Mirfin Born December 24th 1816 # Elizabeth Mirfin Born Jan 22nd 1820 # John Mirfin Born August 22nd 1841 # Ann Mirfin Born Feb 10th 1844 # Ann Mirfin Died 5 June 1851 # {rest of the column is unreadable} # ################################################ # {new page} # {number '1883' in top left corner of page} # --- --- --- --- # George Mirfin Born Jan 21st 1855 # Jane Mirfin Born March 15th 1859 # --- --- --- --- # Florence Ethel Mirfin # Daughter of G & Jane Mirfin # Born ????? 13th 1880 # --- --- --- --- # George Williamson Mirfin Son of # G & Jane Mirfin # Born March 27th 1882 # --- --- --- --- # Mary Elizabeth Mirfin # Daughter of G & Jane Mirfin # Born May 25th 1884 # --- --- --- --- # Eleanor Glover Mirfin # Daughter of G & Jane Mirfin # Born July 25th 18{8?}7 # --- --- --- --- # Jessie Oates Mirfin # Daughter of G & Jane Mirfin # Born August 20th 1889 # # {next page seems to be the first printed page of the bible, # with 'KING OF G....' 'The Transl....' 'Great and manifold....' 'The father of all me....' etc. # Possibly this is the preface to the King James Bible.} ################################################ /=============================================================================/ ID: <57> Status: D Name: \Mary Fairburn\ Also known as Polly Gender: F Gen: -4 Position: 00011 Born: 28/12/1865, Woodhouse, Yorkshire [birth cert] [NB: Year at top of cert says 1866!] c1865, Woodhouse, Yorkshire [1891C] c1866, Woodhouse, Yorkshire [1901C] c1866, Woodhouse, Derbyshire [1911C] Married: 13/12/1885, "the parish church in the parish of Sheffield" Died: 26/05/1941, George & Dragon Hotel, High Street, Beighton, Yorkshire [death cert] 1941 [Bedgreave document] Partner: <56> Child: <44> Father: <58> Mother: <59> Sibling: \Eleanor Fairburn\ Aged 15 in 1891, so born c1876, Beighton, Yorkshire; living at Main Rd, Beighton, Yorkshire [1891] "Polly's sister Eleanor was married to the Licensee of the George and Dragon Hotel, Beighton, a Mr Harry Hutton. When they left to take the Marquis of Granby at Bamford Derbyshire, Williamson and Polly took the 'George'." [bedgreave doc] Married \Harry Hutton\ \Sally Fairburn\ "Mr Mosley had 2 brothers. One was Stationmaster at Cleethorpes - he married Polly's sister Sally Fairburn." [bedgreave doc] Married \____ Mosley\ She had a sister in law Annie Glover (sister of Williamson Glover <56>) who married one of the other two Mosley brothers \Annie Fairburn\ Aged 17 in 1891, so born c1874, Beighton, Yorkshire; living at Main Rd, Beighton, Yorkshire [1891] Married \___ Stone\ Notes: See Williamson Glover <56> for information on her and Williamson from the bedgreave document. Bedgreave document (on Williamson Glover and Mary Fairburn) : "Williamson Glover married Mary Fairburn (Polly) - his cousin. Polly's sister Eleanor was married to the Licensee of the George and Dragon Hotel, Beighton, a Mr Harry Hutton. When they left to take the Marquis of Granby at Bamford Derbyshire, Williamson and Polly took the 'George' (see fig 11). They had 3 children, Hilda, Annie and Francis Williamson. Polly reared ponies and showed them locally. Francis (Frank) used to ride Jonny the grey pony in processions and carnivals in fancy dress at Whitsuntide in the village. Mr and Mrs Glover used to visit Bedgreave in their pony tub [?] or trap with a grey horse Birdie. Frank was killed in the 1914-18 war just before the armistice. Hilda Glover married John Ward a joiner at the 'Salt house' making ammonium sulphate for export during 1914-18 war. He was an athlete and footballer who lived with relatives in Woodhouse. There is a road named after him." "When Williamson died Polly kept the 'George'. During the 2nd W.War a land mine dropped near the railway and River Rother. It blasted the front of the Hotel breaking windows, shredding curtains and damaging the interior - bottles of spirit were untouched but the shock killed Polly 2 weeks later. It was said a direct hit on the railway would have wiped out the village. Annie married Mr Purley." Hilda's <44> mother was Mary Fairburn <57> who died in 1941. Her Father was Williamson Glover <56>, who lived 1861 to 1933. Mary Fairburn <57> birth certificate: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Sheffield 1866 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Handsworth in the County of York. No. When/Where Born Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When Reg. Registar 231 Twenty Eighth December 1865 Mary Girl William Annie Fairburn Miller W.Fairburn Twenty Fourth George Silmay(?) Woodhouse Fairburn Fairburn formerly Glover Father January 1866 Registar Woodhouse --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Williamson Glovers <56> and Mary Fairburns <57> marriage certificate: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1855 Marriage solemnised at the parish church in the parish of Sheffield in the County of York No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence Fathers Name Profession of Father 93 December 13 Williamson Glover 25 Bachelor Miller 43 Scotland Street Williamson Glover Miller 1855 Mary Fairburn 19 Spinster -- 47 Scotland Street William Fairburn Miller Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church, by -- or after Bannes by me, (sig) Gamalid Milner This marriage was (sig) Williamson Glover in the (sig) George Mirfin solumnized between us, (sig) Mary Fairburn Presence of us (sig) John Kirk ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mary Glovers <57> death certificate: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Chesterfield 1941 DEATH in the Sub-district of Eckington in the County of Derby No. When/Where Born Name Sex Age Occupation Cause of death Informant When Reg. Registar 390 Twenty sixth May 1941 Mary Female 75 Widow of 1(a) Myocardial Samuel Purdy Twenty Seventh W A Watson George & Dragon Hotel, Glover years Williamson degeneration Son in law May 1941 Registar High Street, Beighton RD Glover (b) Chronic myocarditis Present at the Death Licensed Certified by 10 High Street Victualler L. A. di Dombar (?) LMSSA Mosborough Sheffield --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1837online.com births search for Mary/Polly Fairburn (23/10/2003) : Dec 1864 FAI/1 FAIRBAIRN, Mary Ann, Newcastle T., 10b/114 FAIRBURN, Mary, Bradford Yk, 9b/131 ???? Mar 1865 FAI/1 -- Jun 1865 FAI/1 -- Sep 1865 FAI/1 FAIRBAIRN, Mary, Morpeth, 10b/305 FAIRBAIRN, Mary Ann Patience, Lambeth, 1d/276 Dec 1865 FAI/1 FAIRBAIRN, Mary Ann, Darlington, 10a/9 Mar 1866 FAI/1 FAIRBURN, Mary, Rochdale, 8c/67 FAIRBURN, Mary, Sheffield, 9c/462 ************* Jun 1866 FAI/1 -- Sep 1866 FAI/1 FAIRBURN, Mary E., 'Bradford, York', 9b/26 ????? Dec 1866 FAI/1 FAIRBAIRN, Mary A., Newcastle T., 10b/108 GRO birth index: Quarter: Mar 1866 Name: Mary Fairburn Mothers maiden name: ??? District: Sheffield Vol/Page: 9c/462 Researched: 23/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 27/10/2003. Received 05/11/2003. 1837online.com deaths search for Mary/Polly Fairburn (23/10/2003) : Mar 1940 GLO/1 GLOVER, Mary, 72, Leigh, 8c/664 one other Mary aged 80 Jun 1940 GLO/2 GLOVER, Mary A., 77, Devon Central, 5b/98 other Mary's aged 64,84,71 Sep 1940 GLO/2 GLOVER, 72, Barnsley, 9c/417 other Mary's aged 85,53 Dec 1940 GLO/1 five Mary's, none aged 76 Mar 1941 GLO/1 many Mary's aged between 45 and 94, none aged 76 Jun 1941 GLO/2 GLOVER, Mary, 75, Chesterfield, 7b/1399 ************* GLOVER, Mary A., 74, Newcastle T., 10b/34 GLOVER, Mary E., 73, W.Bromwich, 6b/1379 other Mary's not in age range Sep 1941 GLO/1 one Mary, aged 68 Dec 1941 GLO/2 GLOVER, Mary E., 74, Brixworth, 3b/220 one other Mary, aged 71 Mar 1942 GLO/1 GLOVER, Mary E., 72, Barrow S., 7a/327 two other Mary's, aged 61 and 68 Jun 1942 GLO/1 GLOVER, Mary, 76, Neath, 11a/809 ???? three other Mary's, aged 84, 48 and zero Sep 1942 GLO/1 GLOVER, Mary E., 78, Leicester, 7a/220 Dec 1942 GLO/1&2 one Mary aged 0 (zero), others aged 87, 6, 83, 60 GRO death index: Quarter: Jun 1941 Name: Mary Fairburn Age/DOB: 75 District: Chesterfield Vol/Page: 7b/1399 Researched: 23/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 27/10/2003. Received 05/11/2003. 1837online.com marriages for Mary Fairburn and Williamson Glover 1881-1891 (25/10/2003) : Mar 1885 FAI/1 one Mary Fairbairn, Newcastle T., 10b/37 Jun 1885 FAI/1 -- Sep 1885 FAI/1 -- Dec 1885 FAI/1 Mary Fairburn, Sheffield, 9c/647 ****************** GLO/1 Williamson Glover, Sheffield, 9c/647 ************** GRO marriage index: Quarter: Dec 1885 Grooms Name: Williamson Glover Brides Name: Mary Fairburn District: Sheffield Vol/Page: 9c/647 Researched: 25/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 27/10/2003. Received 05/11/2003. The Bedgreave Mill document names Isaac Fairburn as Mary Fairburn's <57> father, and Mary Oates (maiden name, sister of Eleanor Oates <81>) as her mother. This is incorrect. Mary Fairburns <57> birth certificate and marriage certificate (to Williamson Glover <56>) both name her father as William Fairburn <58>, a Miller. The birth certificate names her mother as one Annie Fairburn <59> (born Glover). That maiden name Glover is interesting, and may tie in with the Bedgreave document briefly mentioning (without details) that Williamson Glover <56> and Mary Fairburn <57> were cousins in some way. 1891 Census: Glover, Williamson Relationship: Head County: Derbyshire Age: 29 Civil Parish: Beighton Gender: Male ED: 1 Where Born: Derbyshire, Chesterfield Eccl. Parish: St Mary Piece: RG12/3844 Town: Beighton Folio: 24 Page: 41 Civil parish: Beighton Town: Beighton Rural sanitary district: Rotherham Parliamentary borough: N. Derbyshire Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Administrative county: Derby Page 41 schedule 219: Main Rd Name Relation M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace Williamson Glover Head M 29 Miller Chesterfield, Derbyshire Mary Glover Wife M 25 Woodhouse, Yorkshire Hilda Glover Daur 4 Beighton, Derbyshire Annie Glover Daur 10m Beighton, Derbyshire James _ Waddington Boarder S 21 Clerk Retford, Nottinghamshire 1901 census: ---- PRO Reference Schedule Number: RG Number Series Piece Folio Page RG13 3259 100 38 180 Address High St Civil Parish Beighton Rural District -- Town or Village or Hamlet Beighton Parliamentary Borough or Division North Eastern Ecclesiastical Parish Beighton Administrative County Derby County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District -- Ward of Municipal Borough or Urban District -- -- William Glover Relation to Head of Family Head Condition as to Marriage M Age Last Birthday 39 Sex M Profession or Occupation Coal Miner Filler Employment Status Worker Where Born Derbys Brampton Language -- Infirmity -- -- Mary Glover Relation to Head of Family Wife Condition as to Marriage M Age Last Birthday 35 Sex F Profession or Occupation Dressmaker Employment Status Own Account working at home Where Born Yorks Woodhouse Language -- Infirmity -- -- Hilda Glover Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage -- Age Last Birthday 14 Sex F Profession or Occupation School Employment Status Undefined Where Born Derby Beighton Language -- Infirmity -- -- Annie Glover Relation to Head of Family Daughter Condition as to Marriage -- Age Last Birthday 10 Sex F Profession or Occupation School Employment Status Undefined Where Born Derby Beighton Language -- Infirmity -- -- Francis W Glover Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage -- Age Last Birthday 2 Sex M Profession or Occupation -- Employment Status Undefined Where Born Derby Beighton Language -- Infirmity -- ---- 1911 Census - Williamson Glover (1828) and Mary (Polly), with son Francis --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN21131 RG78PN1259 RD438 SD4 ED1 SN240 Schedule Number: 240 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Derbyshire District: Chesterfield Subdistrict: Eckington Enumeration District: 1 Parish: Beighton -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Williamson Glover Head M 49 Married 5 3 2 Publican George & Dragon Inn Brampton Derbys c1862 <56> Mary Glover Wife F 45 Married 25 Woodhouse Derbys c1866 Mary Fairburn <57> Francis W Glover Son M 12 School Beighton Derbys c1899 <<44>> Phoebe Hall Servant F 17 Single General Servant Domestic Woodhouse Derbys c1894 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 8 Signature (sig) Williamson Glover Postal Address George & Dragon, Beighton, Sheffield --------------------------------------------------------- 1891 Census on Annie <<57>> and Eleanor <<57>> : Civil parish: Beighton Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Beighton County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: Main Rd Registration district: Rotherham Sub-registration district: Beighton ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Name Relation M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace Annie Fairburn Head M 52 Lincs Saxilby Annie Fairburn daur S 17 Pupil Teacher School Derby Beighton Ellen Fairburn daur S 15 Derby Beighton Emily Down Boarder S 24 Infant School Mistress Glamorgan Swanswa /=============================================================================/ ID: <58> Status: D Name: \William Fairburn\ Gender: M Gen: -5 Position: 000110 Born: c1836, Sheriffhutton, Lincoln, England [1881 census] Married: ??? Died: ??? Partner: <59> Child: <57> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: The Bedgreave Mill document names Isaac Fairburn as Mary Fairburn's <57> father, and Mary Oates (maiden name, sister of Eleanor Oates <81>) as her mother. This is incorrect. Mary Fairburns <57> birth certificate and marriage certificate (to Williamson Glover <56>) both name her father as William Fairburn <58>, a Miller. The birth certificate names her mother as one Annie Fairburn <59> (born Glover). That maiden name Glover is interesting, and may tie in with the Bedgreave document briefly mentioning (without details) that Williamson Glover <56> and Mary Fairburn <57> were cousins in some way. Recorded as a Miller living in Woodhouse on Mary Fairburns <57> birth certificate. 1881 Census: William FAIRBURN Male Other Information: Birth Year 1837 Birthplace Sheriffhutton, Lincoln, England Age 44 Occupation Miller Corn Marital Status M {Married} Head of Household William FAIRBURN Relation Head Disability Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability William FAIRBURN Head M Male 44 Sheriffhutton, Lincoln, England Miller Corn Annie FAIRBURN Wife M Female 42 Saxelby, Lincoln, England Wife Elizabeth FAIRBURN Daur Female 12 Woodhouse, York, England Scholar Fanny FAIRBURN Daur Female 9 Woodhouse, York, England Scholar Annie FAIRBURN Daur Female 7 Beighton, Derby, England Scholar Ellen FAIRBURN Daur Female 5 Beighton, Derby, England Scholar Source Information: Dwelling Nr P Office Main St Census Place Beighton, Derby, England Family History Library Film 1342129 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4670 / 8 Page Number 9 /=============================================================================/ ID: <59> Status: D Name: \Ann Glover\ Gender: F Gen: -5 Position: 000111 Born: c1838, Saxelby, Lincolnshire [1881 census] Married: ??? Died: ??? Partner: <58> Child: <57> Father: <106> Mother: <107> Sibling: Williamson Glover, etc. <80> Notes: Related to Williamson Glover <80> ?? The Bedgreave Mill document names Isaac Fairburn as Mary Fairburn's <57> father, and Mary Oates (maiden name, sister of Eleanor Oates <81>) as her mother. This is incorrect. Mary Fairburns <57> birth certificate and marriage certificate (to Williamson Glover <56>) both name her father as William Fairburn <58>, a Miller. The birth certificate names her mother as one Annie Fairburn <59> (born Glover). That maiden name Glover is interesting, and may tie in with the Bedgreave document briefly mentioning (without details) that Williamson Glover <56> and Mary Fairburn <57> were cousins in some way. -- Known facts about Ann Glover <<80>> : In 1841: Aged 3, born Lincolnshire; living at Saxilby, Lincolnshire [1841C] Christened 12/08/1837, Saxilby, Lincolnshire, England [IGI] The 1841 census would indicate she was born c1838. Although the 1841 does not state relationships, the IGI christening states Ann's parents to be the same as the others of Williamson's <80> siblings, therefore we can say she is a sibling. born 1835 [AB] Annie Glover <59> was born c1838, Saxelby, Lincolnshire, and is states in the Bedgreave document that Mary Fairburn <57> and Williamson Glover <56> were cousins. If Ann Glover, sister of Williamson Glover <80> is the same as Annie Glover <59>, this would be true, and fits with the known dates and places of Annie's birth. 1841 census: Civil parish: Saxelby Hundred: Lawress County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address: Saxilby Source information: HO107/643/10 Registration district: Lincoln Sub-registration district: Lincoln North East ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Folio: 5 Page: 2 (click to see others on page) Line number: 1 GSU Number: 438768 Name MF Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Glover M 45 Farmer Y abt 1796 George Glover <106> Mary Glover F 42 Y abt 1799 Mary Page <107> John Glover M 21 Y abt 1820 Sarah Glover F 19 Y abt 1822 Theodocia Glover F 15 Y abt 1826 Williamson Glover M 13 Y abt 1828 Williamson Glover <80> George Glover M 10 Y abt 1831 Mary Glover F 7 Y abt 1834 Jane Glover F 5 Y abt 1836 Ann Glover F 3 Y abt 1838 Joseph Glover M 5 months Y abt 1841 Edward Houghilby M 22 Ag Lab Y abt 1819 Thomas Smith M 20 Ag Lab Y abt 1821 James Rowson M 15 Ag Lab Y abt 1826 Jane Cox F 18 F.S Y abt 1823 1851 Census: Civil parish: Thorney County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address: Castle Farm Registration district: Newark Sub-registration district: North Collingham ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 3 Name Relationship M.S. Age EstBYear Gender Occupation Birth City George Glover Head Mar 54 c1797 M Farmer of 170 employing 1 lad Linc Willingham Mary Glover Wife Mar 52 c1799 F Farmers Wife Linc Tealby Theodosia Glover Daur U 24* c1827 F Farmers Daur Linc Willingham George Glover Son U 20 c1831 M Farmers Son Linc Saxilby Ann Glover Daur U 18 c1833 F - Linc Saxilby George Glover Nephew U 16 c1835 M Farmers ????????????? Linc Willingham Jane Pilsel Serv U 16 c1835 F House ??????? Notts Parlton Richard Harrison Serv U 20 c1831 M House ??????? Linc Saxilby James Harrison Serv U 18 c1833 M House ??????? Linc Saxilby John Hempsall Serv U 14 c1837 M House ??????? Linc Saxilby * = I think Theodosia is in the 1851 census twice, also in with her brother John <<80>>. Search of IGI for children of George Glover <106> and Mary <107> in 1837-1841 in Lincolnshire [IGI] (07/11/2004) : Name Christened Father Mother Confirmed Relevant --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Glover 14 NOV 1819, Wickenby, Lincoln, England GEORGE GLOVER MARY Probably Sarah Glover 23 DEC 1821, Willingham By Stow, Lincoln, England GEORGE GLOVER MARY Yes Elizabeth Glover 14 NOV 1823, Willingham By Stow, Lincoln, England GEORGE GLOVER MARY Yes Theodosia Glover 26 FEB 1826, Willingham By Stow, Lincoln, England GEORGE GLOVER MARY Yes William Glover 04 MAY 1828, Willingham By Stow, Lincoln, England GEORGE GLOVER MARY Yes Mary Glover 25 AUG 1833, Saxilby, Lincoln, England GEORGE GLOVER MARY Yes Jane Glover 12 MAY 1835, Saxilby, Lincoln, England GEORGE GLOVER MARY Yes Anne Glover 12 AUG 1837, Saxelby, , Lincoln, England George Glover Mary Yes William Glover (1828) is none other than our friend Williamson Glover. Sarah Glover (1821), Elizabath Glover (1823) and Theodosia Glover (1826) match data from Anne Bowen. Anne Glover (1837) _may_ be the same Anne Glover born 1835 in Anne Bowens information. John Glover (1819) and Jane Glover (1835) are not in Anne Bowens data (as of 06/11/2004). Note that John Glover was christened in Wickenby, the same place as parents George Glover <106> and Mary <107> were married, in July 1819 only 4-5 months before John's christening. Note also what appear to be shifts from Wickenby to Willingham in 1819-1821, and from Willingham to Saxilby in 1828-1833. "Saxilby with Ingleby" is in the registration district of Lincoln, according to http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/REG/lin.htm#linc, as also is Wickenby. -- Known facts about Annie Glover <59> : In 1881: aged 42 (so born c1839), born Saxelby, Lincoln, England; Living at 'Nr P Office Main St', Beighton, Derby, England [1881C] Christened 02/04/1837, Deeping St. James, Lincoln, England; duaghter of William Glover and Mary [IGI] 1881 Census: William FAIRBURN Male Other Information: Birth Year 1837 Birthplace Sheriffhutton, Lincoln, England Age 44 Occupation Miller Corn Marital Status M {Married} Head of Household William FAIRBURN Relation Head Disability Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability William FAIRBURN Head M Male 44 Sheriffhutton, Lincoln, England Miller Corn Annie FAIRBURN Wife M Female 42 Saxelby, Lincoln, England Wife Elizabeth FAIRBURN Daur Female 12 Woodhouse, York, England Scholar Fanny FAIRBURN Daur Female 9 Woodhouse, York, England Scholar Annie FAIRBURN Daur Female 7 Beighton, Derby, England Scholar Ellen FAIRBURN Daur Female 5 Beighton, Derby, England Scholar Source Information: Dwelling Nr P Office Main St Census Place Beighton, Derby, England Family History Library Film 1342129 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4670 / 8 Page Number 9 1891 Census: Civil parish: Beighton Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Beighton County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: Main Rd Registration district: Rotherham Sub-registration district: Beighton ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Name Relation M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace Annie Fairburn Head M 52 Lincs Saxilby Annie Fairburn daur S 17 Pupil Teacher School Derby Beighton Ellen Fairburn daur S 15 Derby Beighton Emily Down Boarder S 24 Infant School Mistress Glamorgan Swanswa IGI: ANN GLOVER Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 02 APR 1837 Deeping St. James, Lincoln, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: WILLIAM GLOVER Mother: MARY Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C028771 1791 - 1860 0421986 Film 6907684 Film Sheet: 00 -- Between the statement in the Bedgreave document, and the closeness of the details of Annie <59> and Ann <<80>>, I think we can say they are the same lady. /=============================================================================/ ID: <60> Status: D Name: \Benjamin Hodgkins\ Gender: M Gen: -5 Position: 001000 Born: c1815, Needwood Forrest, Staffordshire [1851C] Aged 50 in 1870 marriage to Ann Bostock <25> suggesting birth in c1820. Married: Maria <61>: 05/10/1834, Tamworth, Stafford, England [IGI] Ann <25> : 16/01/1870, Parish Church, Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire [cert] Died: ??? Partner: Maria <61> Ann <25> Child: <50> by Maria <61> Father: <125> Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: Identified as father of Joseph Hodgkins <50> on marriage certificate of Joseph Hodgkins <50> and Georgiana Lancashire <51> (date 31/05/1862). He is stated to be a Labourer. That indentifiation of Benjamin as Joseph's father enables the following christening record of Joesph to be confirmed as relevant: JOSEPH HODGKINS Male Christening: 11 OCT 1835 Saint Chad, Lichfield, Stafford, England Parents: Father: BENJAMIN HODGKINS Mother: MARIE Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C039311 1813 - 1864 0435789 Film 0883718 Film C039311 1865 - 1877 0435790 Film NONE Sheet: 00 A search of the IGI for a marriage came up with: +-- | BENJAMIN HODGKINS | Male | Event(s): | Birth: | Christening: | Death: | Burial: | Marriages: | Spouse: MARIA MOORE Family | Marriage: 05 OCT 1834 Tamworth, Stafford, England | Messages: | Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. | Source Information: | Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: | M010062 1557 - 1614 0873649 IT 4 Film 0883946 Film | M010062 1813 - 1822 0435864 Film NONE | M010062 1823 - 1839 0435865 Film NONE | M010062 1839 - 1844 0435866 Film NONE | Sheet: 00 +-- This is the only IGI record of a marriage between a Benjamin Hodgkins and a Marie between 1800 and 1840. It is also in the same county, it's almost certainly the marriage of the parents of that christening. www.familyhistoryonline.net (03/05/2004) - marriage : On 05 OCT 1834 at Tamworth in county of STS Groom Benjamin HODGKINS Status – Occupation – Residence – in county of – Notes – Bride Maria MOORE Status – Occupation – Residence – in county of – Notes – Banns or Licence – General Notes – Source – Amount paid £0.06 www.familyhistoryonline.net (03/05/2004) - Halifax 1851 Census : Township Northowram Address 7 Garden Street Name Hodgkins Benjamin Status M Rel Head gender Male Age 36 Occupation Labourer Place of Birth Needwood Forrest County Sts deaf – Piece 2302 ED 1b Folio 25 4. Township Northowram Address 7 Garden Street Name Hodgkins Benjamin Status M Rel Head gender Male Age 36 Occupation Labourer Place of Birth Needwood Forrest County Sts deaf – Piece 2302 ED 1b Folio 25 1. Township Northowram Address 7 Garden Street Name Hodgkins Maria Status M Rel Wife gender Female Age 35 Occupation – Place of Birth – County Sts deaf – Piece 2302 ED 1b Folio 25 5. Township Northowram Address 7 Garden Street Name Hodgkins Joseph Status – Rel Son gender Male Age 15 Occupation Spinner Place of Birth – County Sts deaf – Piece 2302 ED 1b Folio 25 3. Township Northowram Address 7 Garden Street Name Hodgkins Arthour Status – Rel Son gender Male Age 13 Occupation Mechanic Place of Birth Sheffield County (Sts) deaf – Piece 2302 ED 1b Folio 25 2. Township Northowram Address 7 Garden Street Name Hodgkins George Status – Rel Son gender Male Age 1 Occupation – Place of Birth Northowram County Yks deaf – Piece 2302 ED 1b Folio 25 Amount paid £0.09 Five in Schedule (price £0.36) 1851 census: Parish: Northowram Borough: Halifax(?) Address: Garden Street County/Island: Yorkshire Source information: HO107/2302 Registration district: Halifax Sub-registration district: Northowram ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Folio: 25 Page: 18 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 64 GSU Number: 87511-87512 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Benjamin Hodgkins M Head Marr 36 Labourer Needwood Forrest, Staffordshire abt 1815 Benjamin Hodgkins <60> Maria Hodgkins F Wife Marr 35 Staffordshire abt 1816 Marie Moore <61> Joseph Hodgkins M Son 15 Spinner Staffordshire abt 1836 Joseph Hodgkins <50> Arthour Hodgkins M Son 13 Mechanic Sheffield Staffordshire abt 1838 Arthur Hodgkins <<50>> George Hodgkins M Son 1 Northamrow Halifax abt 1850 George Hodgkins <<50>> 1861 census: Civil parish: Bentley County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Bentley Hay Registration district: Walsall Sub-registration district: Darlaston ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household schedule number: 52 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Benjamin Hodgkins M Head Mar 46 Lab. Blast Furnace Not Known abt 1815 Benjamin Hodgkins <60> Maria Hodgkins F Wife Mar 50 Staffordshire Aldrugh abt 1816 Marie Moore <61> George Hodgkins M Son Un 11 Yorkshire Halifax abt 1850 George Hodgkins <<50>> 1871 census: Civil Parish: Northowram Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 12 Albert Street Registration district: Halifax Sub-registration district: Northowram ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 218 Name MF Relation MStatus Age Occupation Birthplace Benjamin Hodgkins M Head Mar 53 Labourer Iron Works Needeswood Forest Ann Hodgkins F Wife Mar 46 Labourer Iron Works Wife Cheshire Benjamin must have remarried, as by 1871 Maria <61> is gone (died?) and he is married to Ann. 1881 census: Civil parish: Northowram County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 2 Walkers Ct Registration district: Halifax Sub registration district: Northowram ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Name MF Relation MStatus Age Occupation Birthplace Benjamin Hodgkins M Head Mar 61 General Labourer N________ (unreadable) Ann Hodgkins F Wife Mar 57 Cotton Winder Cheshire, Middlewick No matching Benjamin Hodgkins in 1891 census - did he die? -- There was a possibility at one point of Benjamin <60> being born in Tipton, Staffordshire in approximately 1800, who would connect to a Hodgkins family tree on the internet. The above 1851 (and other) census data disproves that possibility. (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/AF/family_group_record.asp?familyid=12489544) - ============================= Search for marraige with Ann between 1850 and 1870. Only one, in Jan-Mar 1870 : Marriages Mar 1870 Bamforth Harriet Ashton 8d 623 Bostock Ann Ashton 8d 623 Grainger Charles Ashton 8d 623 Hodgkins Benjamin Ashton 8d 623 Benjamin Hodgkins, Mar 1870, Ashton, 8d/623 (confirmed on GRO image) The district Ashton is an alternative name for Ashton under Lyne and it spans the boundaries of the counties of Cheshire and Lancashire and information about it can be found here. ASHTON UNDER LYNE REGISTRATION DISTRICT Registration County : Lancashire. Created : 1.7.1837 (sometimes "Ashton" or "Ashton & Oldham" in early listings). Abolished : 1.4.1937 (succeeded by Ashton and Hyde districts). Sub-districts : Ashton Town; Audenshaw; Denton; Dukinfield; Hartshead; Knott Lanes; Lees; Mossley; Mottram; Newton; Royton; Stalybridge; Stayley GRO volumes : XX (1837-51); 8d (1852-1937). (...more...) ============================= Marriage of Benjamin <60> and Ann <25> : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1870 Marriage solumnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of Ashton under Lyne in the County of Lancaster No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 329 Jan'y 16 1870 Benjamin Hodgkins 50 Widower Labourer Stalybridge Michael Hodgkins Labourer Ann Bostock 44 Spinster - Stalybridge John Bostock Labourer Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me (sig) E. Garrey This Marriage in the was solumnized (sig) Benjamin Hodgkins Presence (sig) William Turner between us (sig) Ann Bostock her x mark of us (sig) William Woodcock ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Note the presence of William Turner as a witness - any connection to the Turners in the Hodgkins bible?? It also states Benjamin's father to be Michael Hodgkins <125>, a Labourer in 1870. ============================= Search for death of Maria Hodgkins between 1850 and 1870 : Deaths Sep 1850 HODGKINS Maria Stourbridge 18 292 Deaths Dec 1856 Hodgkins Maria * __ *1 (Maria Hodgkins, Bedford, 3b/[6?][9?]1 - from image on Ancestry) Deaths Jun 1857 Hodgkins Maria Aston 6d 123 SUSPECT Deaths Sep 1867 Hodgkins Maria 27 Headington 3a 350 NO Deaths Sep 1868 Hodgkins Maria 60 Walsall 6b 457 NO ============================= ============================= Search for death of Benjamin after 1881 : Deaths Dec 1886 Hodgkins Benjamin 78 B. Stortford 3a 225 Deaths Dec 1887 Hodgkins Benjamin 68 Halifax 9a 391 **************** Benjamin Hodgkins, Dec 1887, 68, Halifax, 9a/391 (confirmed on GRO image) ============================= /=============================================================================/ ID: <61> Status: D Name: \Maria Moore\ Gender: F Gen: -5 Position: 001001 Born: c1816, Staffordshire [1851C] Married: 05/10/1834, Tamworth, Stafford, England [IGI] Died: Between 1851 and 1871? Partner: <60> Child: <50> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: Benjamin Hodgkins <60> is identified as father of Joseph Hodgkins <50> on marriage certificate of Joseph Hodgkins <50> and Georgiana Lancashire <51> (date 31/05/1897). That indentifiation of Benjamin as Joseph's father enables the following christening record of Joesph to be confirmed as relevant: JOSEPH HODGKINS Male Christening: 11 OCT 1835 Saint Chad, Lichfield, Stafford, England Parents: Father: BENJAMIN HODGKINS Mother: MARIE Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C039311 1813 - 1864 0435789 Film 0883718 Film C039311 1865 - 1877 0435790 Film NONE Sheet: 00 A search of the IGI for a marriage came up with: BENJAMIN HODGKINS Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: MARIA MOORE Family Marriage: 05 OCT 1834 Tamworth, Stafford, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M010062 1557 - 1614 0873649 IT 4 Film 0883946 Film M010062 1813 - 1822 0435864 Film NONE M010062 1823 - 1839 0435865 Film NONE M010062 1839 - 1844 0435866 Film NONE Sheet: 00 This is the only IGI record of a marriage between a Benjamin Hodgkins and a Marie between 1800 and 1840. It is also in the same county, it's almost certainly the marriage of the parents of that christening. There are many records in the IGI of a Maria/Marie/Mary Moore being born/christened. It is not yet possible to discriminate between them. www.familyhistoryonline.net (03/05/2004) - marriage : On 05 OCT 1834 at Tamworth in county of STS Groom Benjamin HODGKINS Status – Occupation – Residence – in county of – Notes – Bride Maria MOORE Status – Occupation – Residence – in county of – Notes – Banns or Licence – General Notes – Source – Amount paid £0.06 www.familyhistoryonline.net (03/05/2004) - Halifax 1851 Census : Township Northowram Address 7 Garden Street Name Hodgkins Benjamin Status M Rel Head gender Male Age 36 Occupation Labourer Place of Birth Needwood Forrest County Sts deaf – Piece 2302 ED 1b Folio 25 4. Township Northowram Address 7 Garden Street Name Hodgkins Benjamin Status M Rel Head gender Male Age 36 Occupation Labourer Place of Birth Needwood Forrest County Sts deaf – Piece 2302 ED 1b Folio 25 1. Township Northowram Address 7 Garden Street Name Hodgkins Maria Status M Rel Wife gender Female Age 35 Occupation – Place of Birth – County Sts deaf – Piece 2302 ED 1b Folio 25 5. Township Northowram Address 7 Garden Street Name Hodgkins Joseph Status – Rel Son gender Male Age 15 Occupation Spinner Place of Birth – County Sts deaf – Piece 2302 ED 1b Folio 25 3. Township Northowram Address 7 Garden Street Name Hodgkins Arthour Status – Rel Son gender Male Age 13 Occupation Mechanic Place of Birth Sheffield County (Sts) deaf – Piece 2302 ED 1b Folio 25 2. Township Northowram Address 7 Garden Street Name Hodgkins George Status – Rel Son gender Male Age 1 Occupation – Place of Birth Northowram County Yks deaf – Piece 2302 ED 1b Folio 25 Amount paid £0.09 Five in Schedule (price £0.36) 1851 census: Parish: Northowram Borough: Halifax(?) Address: Garden Street County/Island: Yorkshire Source information: HO107/2302 Registration district: Halifax Sub-registration district: Northowram ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Folio: 25 Page: 18 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 64 GSU Number: 87511-87512 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Benjamin Hodgkins M Head Marr 36 Labourer Needwood Forrest, Staffordshire abt 1815 Benjamin Hodgkins <60> Maria Hodgkins F Wife Marr 35 Staffordshire abt 1816 Marie Moore <61> Joseph Hodgkins M Son 15 Spinner Staffordshire abt 1836 Joseph Hodgkins <50> Arthour Hodgkins M Son 13 Mechanic Sheffield Staffordshire abt 1838 Arthur Hodgkins <<50>> George Hodgkins M Son 1 Northamrow Halifax abt 1850 George Hodgkins <<50>> 1861 census: Civil parish: Bentley County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Bentley Hay Registration district: Walsall Sub-registration district: Darlaston ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household schedule number: 52 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Benjamin Hodgkins M Head Mar 46 Lab. Blast Furnace Not Known abt 1815 Benjamin Hodgkins <60> Maria Hodgkins F Wife Mar 50 Staffordshire Aldrugh abt 1816 Marie Moore <61> George Hodgkins M Son Un 11 Yorkshire Halifax abt 1850 George Hodgkins <<50>> Benjamin <60> must have remarried, as by 1871 Maria <61> is gone (died?) and he is married to Ann. /=============================================================================/ ID: <62> Status: D Name: \John Lancashire\ Gender: M Gen: -5 Position: 001010 Born: c1822, Denby, Derbyshire [1851C] Married: 31/01/1841, Coseley, Sedgley, Staffordshire [cert] [JD] Died: ??? Partner: <63> Child: <51> Father: <64> Mother: <65> Sibling: \James Lancashire:c1827\, born c1827, Denby, Derbyshire In 1851: Aged 24, so born c1827; born Denby, Derbyshire; Miner (Coal); living at White Moor Hall, Belper, Derbyshire [1851C] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \Mary Lancashire:c1839\, born c1839, Denby, Derbyshire In 1851: Aged 12, so born c1839; born Derby Denby; living at White Moor Hall, Belper, Derbyshire [1851C] \Joseph Lancashire:c1840\, born c1840, Denby, Derbyshire In 1851: Aged 11, so born c1840; born Derby Denby; living at White Moor Hall, Belper, Derbyshire [1851C] Notes: Identified as father of Georgiana Lancashire <51> on marriage certificate of Joseph Hodgkins <50> and Georgiana Lancashire <51> (date 31/05/1862). He is stated to be a Miner. He was born around 1822, and probably married about 1835. The chances are he wouldn't live past 1890. John Porter Lancashire, Born c1818 in Ockbrook,Derbyshire Send Message to Richard about John Porter Lancashire Hello. My name is Ian Ward and I'm trying to trace John Lancashire, probably born sometime about 1810, father of Georgiana Lancashire (who was born c.1841 in Staffordshire). Is this anything like your John Lancashire? You contacted Richard Buxton on 23 January 2004 about John Porter Lancashire. 1851 census: Parish: Shenstone (apparently in Staffordshire, but the county is not on the image) Eccl District: Stonnall Village: Catshill Address: Catshill County/Island: Staffordshire Source information: HO107/2014 Registration district: Lichfield Sub-registration district: Lichfield ED, institution, or vessel: 9d Folio: 139 Page: 27 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 99 GSU Number: 87417 Name MF Relation Mar Age Occupation Birthplace Blind/Deaf-and-Dumb EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Lancashire M Head Mar 29 Collier(?) Derby Denby Y abt 1822 John Lancashire <62> Charlotte Lancashire F Wife Mar 27 Derby Newhall Y abt 1824 Charlotte ? <63> Georgiana Lancashire F Daur 9 Stafford Darlaston abt 1842 Georgiana Lancashire <51> Charlotte Lancashire F Daur 5 Leicester Swannington Y abt 1846 Sarah Lancashire F Daur 4 Stafford Bilston abt 1847 Mary Ann Lancashire F Daur 1 Stafford Willenhall abt 1850 William Lancashire M Son 5 mths Stafford Stonnall abt 1850 Henry N K M Lodger U 22 Miner Derby Denby Y abt 1829 1861 census: Parish: Burntwood Edial and Woodhouses Ecclesiastical parish: Burntwood Christchurch County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Hamlet: Burntwood Street Address: Rugeley Road Source information: RG9/1973 Registration district: Lichfield Sub-registration district: Lichfield ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Folio: 81 Page: 25 Household schedule number: 156 GSU Number: 542896 Name MF Relation Mar Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Lancashire M Head Mar 40 Coal Miner Derbysh Derby (should be Denby) abt 1821 John Lancashire <62> Charlotte Lancashire F Wife Mar 38 Derbysh Newhall abt 1823 Charlotte ? <63> Georgina Lancashire F Daur Unm 17 Staffordsh Darlaston abt 1844 Georgiana Lancashire <51> Charlotte Lancashire F Daur Unm 16 Leicestersh Smitstone abt 1845 Sarah Lancashire F Daur 14 Staffordsh Bitston abt 1847 Mary Ann Lancashire F Daur 12 Scholar Staffordsh Willenhall abt 1849 William Lancashire M Son 10 Coal Miner Staffordsh Brown Hill abt 1851 Ellen Lancashire F Daur 7 Scholar Staffordsh Brown Hill abt 1854 John Lancashire M Son 5 Staffordsh Brown Hill abt 1856 Mariah Lancashire F Daur 3 Staffordsh Brown Hill abt 1858 Caroline Lancashire F Daur 11 months Staffordsh Brown Hill abt 1860 William Lancashire M Father Mar 72 Coal Miner Derbysh Derby (Denby?) abt 1789 William Lancashire <64> NB. Denby, Derbyshire is close to Ockbrook, Derbyshire (6 miles apart, north of Ockbrook is Heanor and Denby) - where John Porter Lancashire (born c1818) was apparently born. Is this John Lancashire related to John Porter Lancashire????? In 1871: Civil Parish: Rotherham Ecclesiastical parish: Rotherham Town: Rotherham County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 16 Eastwood View Source information: RG10/4704 Registration district: Rotherham Sub-registration district: Rotherham ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Folio: 14 Page: 3 Household schedule number: 12 GSU Number: 847242 Name MF Relation Mar Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Lancashire M Head Widr 50 Miner Derby Denby abt 1821 John Lancashire <62> Ellen Lancashire F Daughter Unm 17 Stafford Brownhill abt 1850 John Lancashire M Son 15 Miner Stafford Brownhill abt 1856 Caroline Lancashire F Daughter 9 Stafford Brownhill abt 1862 Could not find in 1881 census. In 1891: Civil parish: Burntwood Ecclesiastical parish: Chasetown Town: Chasetown County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: High St Source information: RG12/2213 Registration district: Lichfield Sub registration district: Lichfield ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Folio: 4 Page: 1 GSU Number: 6097323 Name MF Relation Mar Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Lancashire M Head M 70 Coal Miner Derbyshire Denby abt 1821 John Lancashire <62> Harriett Lancashire F Wife M 70 Staffs Tamworth abt 1821 Caroline Lancashire F Daur S 30 Staffs Cha_e Town abt 1861 Could not find in 1901 census. Could this be John <62> and Charlotte's <63> marriage? IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles JOHN LANCASHIRE Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: CHARLOTTE FIRTH Marriage: 28 APR 1830 Wath Upon Dearne, Yorkshire, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M108121 1813 - 1836 0919379, 0919380 Film 6909759 Film Sheet: 00 Wath upon Dearne is close to Rotherham and Sheffield in South Yorkshire, not too far from the Derbyshire border. It is, however, a substancial distance from Denby where John <62> was born (which is down near the city of Derby, as is Newhall). Another possibility is: IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles JOHN LANCASTER Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: CHARLOTTE HUGHES Marriage: 06 OCT 1833 Aston Juxta Birmingham, Warwick, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M011684 1832 - 1845 0919797-799 Film NONE M011684 1845 - 1852 0919800, 0918845-46 Film NONE Sheet: 00 Warwickshire is another county that Derbyshire borders with. According to Jill Dunhill, this is their marriage: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1841 Marriage solumnized at Christ Church Coseley in the Parish of Sedgley in the County of Stafford No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 53 January 31 John Lancashire under age Bachelor Miner Coseley William Lancashire Miner Charlotte Eames under age Spinster Coseley George Eames Miner Married in the Church of Caseley according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me (sig) C. H. Passant (~) This Marriage in the was solumnized (sig) John Lancashire his X mark Presence (sig) Thomas Eames his X mark between us (sig) Charlotte Eames her X mark of us (sig) Caroline Eames her X mark ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Certified to be a true copy of an entry in the certified copy of a register of Marriages in the Registration District of Dudley Given at the General Register Office, under the Seal of the said Office, the 21st of January 2005 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John <62> would have been aged 19 in 1841, under 21 and thus under age. He _was_ a Miner, and did have father William, who was also a Miner. Charlotte <63> would have been aged 17 in 1841, also under 21 and thus under age. Sedgley parish is a "large and populous district, in the centre of the great mining district of Staffordshire, lying betwixt Wolverhampton, Bilston and Dudley, and extending to within two miles of each town." (William White, 1851) [GenUKI] Sedgley village is "very extensive, and occupies an elevated situation on the high road, three miles S of Wolverhampton, and three miles NNW of Dudley. Between Sedgley and Wolverhampton is Sedgley Park, an ancient seat of the Dudleys, which has long been used as a Roman Catholic Academy. Ellows Hall, on the west side of the parish, belongs to JL Bickley, Esq, but is now unoccupied." (William White, 1851) [GenUKI] Coseley is a "populous but straggling village and district, two miles E of Sedgley". (William White, 1851) [GenUKI] -- GenUKI of Sedgley: "Sedgley parish is a large and populous district, in the centre of the great mining district of Staffordshire, lying betwixt Wolverhampton, Bilston and Dudley, and extending to within two miles of each town. It contains 5170 acres of land, and has now about 27,000 inhabitants. It is in two divisions, called Upper and Lower Side, sub-divided into nine constablewicks or hamlets, viz - Sedgley, Gospel End, Cotwall End, and Upper & Lower Gornal, in the Upper Side, and Ettingshall, Brierley, Coseley, and Wood Setton, in the Lower Side. Lord Ward is lord of the manor, but the Rev JL Petit has a large estate, and there are a considerable number of smaller freeholders and copyholders in this parish, which abounds with excellent coal, ironstone, limestone, freestone, and clay for bricks. The coal and iron works are mostly at Coseley and Ettingshall, near those of Bilston, and give employment to a vast number of workmen. Several hundred hands are also employed at their own homes in making nails and fire irons. The main coal here is 10 yards thick, and is well suited to the use of the furnaces, the forges, and the smithies. Sedgley village is very extensive, and occupies an elevated situation on the high road, three miles S of Wolverhampton, and three miles NNW of Dudley. Between Sedgley and Wolverhampton is Sedgley Park, an ancient seat of the Dudleys, which has long been used as a Roman Catholic Academy. Ellows Hall, on the west side of the parish, belongs to JL Bickley, Esq, but is now unoccupied. Brierley is a district of scattered houses, two miles NE of Sedgley. Broad Lane and Lady Moor are adjoining hamlets, two miles NNE of Sedgley, and within half a mile SW of Bilston. Can Lane is a long street of houses, three quarters of a mile ENE of Sedgley. Coseley is a populous but straggling village and district, two miles E of Sedgley. Cotwall End is a district three quarters of a mile SW of Sedgley, occupied chiefly by nailors, and a few farmers. Deepfield has a number of scattered houses in the coal and iron district, one mile SW of Bilston. Here is a tunnel of the Birmingham Canal, 1090 feet long, 25 feet broad, and 17 feet high from the surface of the water. Ettingshall is a large mining village, about a mile SW of Bilston, with surrounding suburbs in Ettingshall Lane, Catchem's Corner, etc, extending into Bilston and Wolverhampton townships. The Rev JL Petit has a large estate here, which was anciently a park, but has long been disfigured by extensive coal and iron works, and quarries of limestone. A large number of houses, which were thrown down or rendered untenable in consequence of the mining excavations under them, were rebuilt a few years ago on the adjoining pit banks, and now compose Ettingshall New Village. Goldthorn Hill is partly in Wolverhampton and Penn parishes, where new water works are constructing. Lower Gornal was a chapelry to Sedgley and details can be found on the Lower Gornal page. Upper Gornal is a rapidly improving village, about one and a half miles NW of Dudley, and near the lofty limestone hill which is crowned by the ruins of Dudley Castle. It gives name to an ecclesiastical district, comprising several adjacent hamlets, coal and iron works, freestone quarries, and brick yards. Gospel End is a district half a mile W of Sedgley. Gospel Oak is a scattered hamlet, partly in Tipton parish, two miles W of Wednesbury. Part of it is now called Wednesbury Oak, from the seat and extensive coal and iron works of Messrs P Williams and Sons. Mason's Bank is a village in the Coseley division, two miles NW of Dudley. Prince's End is a large village, partly in Tipton parish, two and a quarter miles N by E of Dudley. Here are extensive coal and iron works. Ruiton is a village and district adjoining Upper Gornal, occupying a fine lofty eminence, which had formerly a beacon, in which the Malvern Hills (38 miles away), the Wrekin, and many of the mountains of Wales may be seen on a clear day. Sodom is a hamlet adjoining Can Lane, one mile ENE of Sedgley. Wood Setton, half a mile SE of Sedgley, is a scattered hamlet, occupied by farmers, fire-iron makers, etc." [From History, Gazetteer and Directory of Staffordshire, William White, Sheffield, 1851] -- Was "Lord Ward" linked to my Wards? :o) 1851 census of parents William <64> and Mary <65> : Parish or township: Belper Civil parish: Belper County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: White Moor Hall Source information: HO107/2144 Registration district: Belper Sub-registration district: Duffield ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Folio: 745 Page: 29 Household schedule number: 109 GSU Number: 87775 Name MF Relation Mar Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- William Lancashire M Head Mar 68 Miner (Coal) Derby Denby abt 1783 William Lancashire <64> Mary Lancashire F Wife Mar 60 Derby Denby abt 1791 Mary ? <65> James Lancashire M Son U 24 Miner (Coal) Derby Denby abt 1827 Mary Lancashire F Daur 12 Derby Denby abt 1839 Joseph Lancashire M Son 11 Derby Denby abt 1840 In the next household is Samuel Lancashire, age 22: Name MF Relation Mar Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Samuel Lancashire M Head Mar 22 Miner (Coal) Derby Denby abt 1829 Hannah Lancashire F Wife Mar 20 Derby Belper abt 1831 Mary Ann Lancashire F Daur 9 mo Derby Belper abt 1850 Is Samuel also John <62>'s brother? /=============================================================================/ ID: <63> Status: D Name: \Charlotte Eames\ Gender: F Gen: -5 Position: 001011 Born: c1824, Newhall, Derbyshire [1851C] Married: 31/01/1841, Coseley, Sedgley, Staffordshire [cert] [JD] Died: ??? Partner: <62> Child: <51> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: 1851 census: Parish: Shenstone (apparently in Staffordshire, but the county is not on the image) Eccl District: Stonnall Village: Catshill Address: Catshill County/Island: Staffordshire Source information: HO107/2014 Registration district: Lichfield Sub-registration district: Lichfield ED, institution, or vessel: 9d Folio: 139 Page: 27 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 99 GSU Number: 87417 Name MF Relation Mar Age Occupation Birthplace Blind/Deaf-and-Dumb EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Lancashire M Head Mar 29 Collier(?) Derby Denby Y abt 1822 John Lancashire <62> Charlotte Lancashire F Wife Mar 27 Derby Newhall Y abt 1824 Charlotte ? <63> Georgiana Lancashire F Daur 9 Stafford Darlaston abt 1842 Georgiana Lancashire <51> Charlotte Lancashire F Daur 5 Leicester Swannington Y abt 1846 Sarah Lancashire F Daur 4 Stafford Bilston abt 1847 Mary Ann Lancashire F Daur 1 Stafford Willenhall abt 1850 William Lancashire M Son 5 mths Stafford Stonnall abt 1850 Henry N K M Lodger U 22 Miner Derby Denby Y abt 1829 1861 census: Parish: Burntwood Edial and Woodhouses Ecclesiastical parish: Burntwood Christchurch County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Hamlet: Burntwood Street Address: Rugeley Road Source information: RG9/1973 Registration district: Lichfield Sub-registration district: Lichfield ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Folio: 81 Page: 25 Household schedule number: 156 GSU Number: 542896 Name MF Relation Mar Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Lancashire M Head Mar 40 Coal Miner Derbysh Derby (should be Denby) abt 1821 John Lancashire <62> Charlotte Lancashire F Wife Mar 38 Derbysh Newhall abt 1823 Charlotte ? <63> Georgina Lancashire F Daur Unm 17 Staffordsh Darlaston abt 1844 Georgiana Lancashire <51> Charlotte Lancashire F Daur Unm 16 Leicestersh Smitstone abt 1845 Sarah Lancashire F Daur 14 Staffordsh Bitston abt 1847 Mary Ann Lancashire F Daur 12 Scholar Staffordsh Willenhall abt 1849 William Lancashire M Son 10 Coal Miner Staffordsh Brown Hill abt 1851 Ellen Lancashire F Daur 7 Scholar Staffordsh Brown Hill abt 1854 John Lancashire M Son 5 Staffordsh Brown Hill abt 1856 Mariah Lancashire F Daur 3 Staffordsh Brown Hill abt 1858 Caroline Lancashire F Daur 11 months Staffordsh Brown Hill abt 1860 William Lancashire M Father Mar 72 Coal Miner Derbysh Derby (Denby?) abt 1789 William Lancashire <64> Could this be John <62> and Charlotte's <63> marriage? IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles JOHN LANCASHIRE Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: CHARLOTTE FIRTH Marriage: 28 APR 1830 Wath Upon Dearne, Yorkshire, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M108121 1813 - 1836 0919379, 0919380 Film 6909759 Film Sheet: 00 Wath upon Dearne is close to Rotherham and Sheffield in South Yorkshire, not too far from the Derbyshire border. It is, however, a substancial distance from Denby where John <62> was born (which is down near the city of Derby, as is Newhall). Another possibility is: IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles JOHN LANCASTER Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: CHARLOTTE HUGHES Marriage: 06 OCT 1833 Aston Juxta Birmingham, Warwick, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M011684 1832 - 1845 0919797-799 Film NONE M011684 1845 - 1852 0919800, 0918845-46 Film NONE Sheet: 00 Warwickshire is another county that Derbyshire borders with. According to Jill Dunhill, this is their marriage: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1841 Marriage solumnized at Christ Church Coseley in the Parish of Sedgley in the County of Stafford No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 53 January 31 John Lancashire under age Bachelor Miner Coseley William Lancashire Miner Charlotte Eames under age Spinster Coseley George Eames Miner Married in the Church of Caseley according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me (sig) C. H. Passant (~) This Marriage in the was solumnized (sig) John Lancashire his X mark Presence (sig) Thomas Eames his X mark between us (sig) Charlotte Eames her X mark of us (sig) Caroline Eames her X mark ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Certified to be a true copy of an entry in the certified copy of a register of Marriages in the Registration District of Dudley Given at the General Register Office, under the Seal of the said Office, the 21st of January 2005 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John <62> would have been aged 19 in 1841, under 21 and thus under age. He _was_ a Miner, and did have father William, who was also a Miner. Charlotte <63> would have been aged 17 in 1841, also under 21 and thus under age. Sedgley parish is a "large and populous district, in the centre of the great mining district of Staffordshire, lying betwixt Wolverhampton, Bilston and Dudley, and extending to within two miles of each town." (William White, 1851) [GenUKI] Sedgley village is "very extensive, and occupies an elevated situation on the high road, three miles S of Wolverhampton, and three miles NNW of Dudley. Between Sedgley and Wolverhampton is Sedgley Park, an ancient seat of the Dudleys, which has long been used as a Roman Catholic Academy. Ellows Hall, on the west side of the parish, belongs to JL Bickley, Esq, but is now unoccupied." (William White, 1851) [GenUKI] Coseley is a "populous but straggling village and district, two miles E of Sedgley". (William White, 1851) [GenUKI] Charlotte Eames in the 1841 census???????? (PROBABLY NOT, IF SHE MARRIED IN JAN 1841, BUT IT'S HERE FOR REFERENCE.) Street address: Barnets Lane Civil parish: South Stoneham Hundred: Mainsbridge (Lower Half) County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: South Stoneham Sub-registration district: South Stoneham Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 402; Book: 19; Civil Parish: South Stoneham; County: Hampshire; Enumeration District: 3; Folio: 7; Page: 10; Line: 5; GSU roll: 288802. Name MF Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear --------------------------------------------------------------- John Eames M 60 Ag Lab Y abt 1781 Harriett Eames F 40 Y abt 1801 Betsy Eames F 20 Y abt 1821 William Eames M 19 Y abt 1822 Charlotte Eames F 17 Y abt 1824 <63> Sarah Eames F 12 Y abt 1829 Mary Eames F 10 Y abt 1831 George Eames M 8 Y abt 1833 Ellen Eames F 6 Y abt 1835 Aquilah Eames F 8 Mo Y 1840 Is this Charlotte's Xening in the IGI? CHARLOTTE EAMES Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 18 JUL 1824 Stapenhill, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: GEORGE EAMES Mother: SARAH Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C058831 1813 - 1869 0498129 Film 6905301 Film Sheet: 00 Bishop's transcripts for Stapenhill, 1666-1869 Church of England. Parish Church of Stapenhill (Derbyshire). It agrees with the John/Charlotte marriage certificate that names George as Charlotte's father. If so, are any of these her siblings? CAROLINE HAMES / Caroline Eames Female Event(s): Birth: About 1826 Newhall, Derby, England ^^^ DO NOT TRUST THIS DATE, IT IS EN ESTIMATE BY THE LDS CHURCH BASED ON A MARRIAGE!! Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: GEORGE EAMES Mother: SARAH Messages: Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter. ^^^ CHURCH MEMBER SUBMISSION, TREAT WITH LARGE DOSE OF SALT! Source Information: No source information is available. ( probably this marriage - which should be also be taken with a thoroughly salty taste : George Eames Male Event(s): Birth: About 1792 Newhall, Derby, England Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: Sarah Marriage: About 1816 Of, Church Gresley, Derby, England Messages: Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter. Source Information: No source information is available ) THOMAS EAMES Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 31 AUG 1817 Church Gresley, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: GEORGE EAMES Mother: SARAH Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C061291 1813 - 1846 0498052 Film 6905434 Film Sheet: 00 CATHERINE EAMES Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 24 JUN 1827 Stapenhill, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: GEORGE EAMES Mother: SARAH Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C058831 1813 - 1869 0498129 Film 6905301 Film Sheet: 00 HARRIET EAMES Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 06 DEC 1820 Saint Lawrence, Darlaston Near Wolverhampton, Stafford, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: GEORGE EAMES Family Mother: SARAH Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C033971 1792 - 1812 0417188 Film 0541496 Film C033971 1813 - 1820 0426531 Film NONE C033971 1821 - 1830 0426532 Film NONE Sheet: 00 Bishop's transcripts for St. Lawrence's Church, Darlaston near Wednesbury, 1660-1844 Church of England. St. Lawrence's Church (Darlaston near Wednesbury) JOHN EAMES Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 27 MAR 1834 Saint John, Burslem, Stafford, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: GEO EAMES Mother: SARAH Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C010043 1833 - 1850 0426505 Film 0933102 Film C010043 1851 - 1856 0426506 Film NONE Sheet: 00 Bishop's transcripts for Burslem, 1660-1856 Church of England. Parish Church of Burslem (Staffordshire) ELISABETH EAMES Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 22 JAN 1815 Tamworth, Stafford, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: GEORGE EAMES Mother: SARAH Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C010063 1813 - 1822 0435864 Film 883880 Film C010063 1822 - 1839 0435865 Film NONE C010063 1840 - 1856 0435866 Film NONE C010063 1856 - 1868 0435867 Film NONE Sheet: 00 Bishop's transcripts, 1664-1868 Church of England. Parish Church of Tamworth SARAH EMES Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 27 JUN 1832 Saint John, Burslem, Stafford, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: GEO EMES Mother: SARAH Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C010042 1813 - 1822 0426503 Film 0541789 Film C010042 1822 - 1832 0426504 Film NONE Sheet: 00 Bishop's transcripts for Burslem, 1660-1856 Church of England. Parish Church of Burslem (Staffordshire) THOS AMES Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 08 APR 1831 Saint John, Burslem, Stafford, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: GEO AMES Mother: SARAH Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C010042 1813 - 1822 0426503 Film 0541789 Film C010042 1822 - 1832 0426504 Film NONE Sheet: 00 Bishop's transcripts for Burslem, 1660-1856 Church of England. Parish Church of Burslem (Staffordshire) ANN EAMOS Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 05 APR 1829 Saint John, Burslem, Stafford, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: GEORGE EAMOS Mother: SARAH Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C010042 1813 - 1822 0426503 Film 0541789 Film C010042 1822 - 1832 0426504 Film NONE Sheet: 00 0426503 Bishop's transcripts for Burslem, 1660-1856 Church of England. Parish Church of Burslem (Staffordshire) 0426504 Bishop's transcripts for Burslem, 1660-1856 Church of England. Parish Church of Burslem (Staffordshire) /=============================================================================/ ID: <64> Status: D Name: \William Lancashire\ Gender: M Gen: -6 Position: 0010100 Born: c1789, Derbyshire [1861C] c1783, Denby, Derbyshire [1851C] Christened 29/11/1789, Denby, Derbyshire [IGI] Married: 07/06/1816, Horsley, Derbyshire [IGI] ??? Died: ??? Partner: <65> Child: <62> Father: <66> Mother: <67> Sibling: \James Lancashire:c1791\, christened 24/03/1791, Denby, Derby, England [IGI] \Francis Lancashire:c1792\, christened 14/10/1792, Denby, Derby, England [IGI] \Ellen Lancashire:c1794\, christened 10/11/1794, Denby, Derby, England [IGI] \Thomas Lancashire:c1796\, christened 18/12/1796, Denby, Derby, England [IGI] \Mary Lancashire:c1799\, christened 24/04/1799, Denby, Derby, England [IGI] \John Lancashire:c1802\, christened 20/01/1802, Denby, Derby, England [IGI] \Anne Lancashire:c1804\, christened 09/04/1804, Denby, Derby, England [IGI] Notes: IGI christening entry for William Lancashire in 1789 (right name, right place, right year) : WILLIAM LANCASHIRE Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 29 NOV 1789 Denby, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: P000441 1573 - 1812 0823622 Film 6904778 Film Sheet: 00 Film or fiche number 0823622 Item 1 Denby, Derbyshire, England, christenings and burials, 1573-1812 Church of England. Parish Church of Denby (Derbyshire) Item 2 Parish register transcripts, 1558-1847 Church of England. Parish Church of Wilmslow (Cheshire) Item 3 Parish register transcripts, 1558-1847 Church of England. Parish Church of Wilmslow (Cheshire) Item 4 Christenings, Congleton, Cheshire, England, 1750-1769 Church of England. St. Peter's Church (Congleton, Cheshire) Item 5 Parish register transcript, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Church of England. Parochial Chapelry (Birkenhead) 1851 census: Parish or township: Belper Civil parish: Belper County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: White Moor Hall Source information: HO107/2144 Registration district: Belper Sub-registration district: Duffield ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Folio: 745 Page: 29 Household schedule number: 109 GSU Number: 87775 Name MF Relation Mar Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- William Lancashire M Head Mar 68 Miner (Coal) Derby Denby abt 1783 William Lancashire <64> Mary Lancashire F Wife Mar 60 Derby Denby abt 1791 Mary ? <65> James Lancashire M Son U 24 Miner (Coal) Derby Denby abt 1827 Mary Lancashire F Daur 12 Derby Denby abt 1839 Joseph Lancashire M Son 11 Derby Denby abt 1840 In the next household is Samuel Lancashire, age 22: Name MF Relation Mar Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Samuel Lancashire M Head Mar 22 Miner (Coal) Derby Denby abt 1829 Hannah Lancashire F Wife Mar 20 Derby Belper abt 1831 Mary Ann Lancashire F Daur 9 mo Derby Belper abt 1850 Could Samuel be William <64>'s son? 1861 census: Parish: Burntwood Edial and Woodhouses Ecclesiastical parish: Burntwood Christchurch County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Hamlet: Burntwood Street Address: Rugeley Road Source information: RG9/1973 Registration district: Lichfield Sub-registration district: Lichfield ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Folio: 81 Page: 25 Household schedule number: 156 GSU Number: 542896 Name MF Relation Mar Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Lancashire M Head Mar 40 Coal Miner Derbysh Derby (should be Denby) abt 1821 John Lancashire <62> Charlotte Lancashire F Wife Mar 38 Derbysh Newhall abt 1823 Charlotte ? <63> Georgina Lancashire F Daur Unm 17 Staffordsh Darlaston abt 1844 Georgiana Lancashire <51> Charlotte Lancashire F Daur Unm 16 Leicestersh Smitstone abt 1845 Sarah Lancashire F Daur 14 Staffordsh Bitston abt 1847 Mary Ann Lancashire F Daur 12 Scholar Staffordsh Willenhall abt 1849 William Lancashire M Son 10 Coal Miner Staffordsh Brown Hill abt 1851 Ellen Lancashire F Daur 7 Scholar Staffordsh Brown Hill abt 1854 John Lancashire M Son 5 Staffordsh Brown Hill abt 1856 Mariah Lancashire F Daur 3 Staffordsh Brown Hill abt 1858 Caroline Lancashire F Daur 11 months Staffordsh Brown Hill abt 1860 William Lancashire M Father Mar 72 Coal Miner Derbysh Derby (Denby?) abt 1789 William Lancashire <64> Could not find in 1871, 1881 or 1901 census. Where is wife Mary <65> in 1861 and after? Is this the IGI marriage of William <64> and Mary <65> ? If so, their first born (that I know of), John <62>, was born 6 years later. WILLIAM LANCASHIRE Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: MARY GRACE Marriage: 07 JUN 1816 Horsley, Derby, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M055131 1767 - 1810 0428917 Film 6905234 Film M055131 1813 - 1837 0498093 Film NONE Sheet: 00 0428917 Bishop's transcripts for Horsley, 1558-1844 Church of England. Parish Church of Horsley (Derbyshire) 0498093 Item 1 Bishop's transcripts for Horsley, 1558-1844 Church of England. Parish Church of Horsley (Derbyshire) Item 2 Bishop's transcripts for Hulland, 1838-1857 Church of England. Chapelry of Hulland (Derbyshire) These are very likely siblings of William in the IGI (see Francis <66> and Anne <67> for logic as to why). If all of these are Williams siblings, as I believe, then we can conclude Williams mother was Anne <67>. JAMES LANCASHIRE Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 24 MAR 1791 Denby, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: P000441 1573 - 1812 0823622 Film 6904778 Film Sheet: 00 FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 14 OCT 1792 Denby, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: P000441 1573 - 1812 0823622 Film 6904778 Film Sheet: 00 ELLEN LANCASHIRE Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 10 NOV 1794 Denby, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Mother: ANNE Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: P000441 1573 - 1812 0823622 Film 6904778 Film Sheet: 00 THOMAS LANCASHIRE Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 18 DEC 1796 Denby, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Mother: ANNE Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: P000441 1573 - 1812 0823622 Film 6904778 Film Sheet: 00 MARY LANCASHIRE Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 24 APR 1799 Denby, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Mother: ANNE Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: P000441 1573 - 1812 0823622 Film 6904778 Film Sheet: 00 JOHN LANCASHIRE Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 20 JAN 1802 Denby, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: P000441 1573 - 1812 0823622 Film 6904778 Film Sheet: 00 ANNE LANCASHIRE Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 09 APR 1804 Denby, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Mother: ANNE Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: P000441 1573 - 1812 0823622 Film 6904778 Film Sheet: 00 /=============================================================================/ ID: <65> Status: D Name: \Mary ____\ Mary Grace [IGI] ??? Gender: F Gen: -6 Position: 0010101 Born: c1791, Denby, Derbyshire [1851C] Married: 07/06/1816, Horsley, Derbyshire [IGI] ??? Died: ??? Partner: <64> Child: <62> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: 1851 census: Parish or township: Belper Civil parish: Belper County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: White Moor Hall Source information: HO107/2144 Registration district: Belper Sub-registration district: Duffield ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Folio: 745 Page: 29 Household schedule number: 109 GSU Number: 87775 Name MF Relation Mar Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- William Lancashire M Head Mar 68 Miner (Coal) Derby Denby abt 1783 William Lancashire <64> Mary Lancashire F Wife Mar 60 Derby Denby abt 1791 Mary ? <65> James Lancashire M Son U 24 Miner (Coal) Derby Denby abt 1827 Mary Lancashire F Daur 12 Derby Denby abt 1839 Joseph Lancashire M Son 11 Derby Denby abt 1840 By 1861, William <64> was living with son John Lancashire <62>. It looked likely, if William was living with wife Mary in 1851, but with son John by 1861, that Mary had passed away between 1851 and 1861. Searched for death of Mary Lancashire between 1851 and 1861 on FreeBMD. Deaths Mar 1854 Lancashire Mary Belper 7b 297 Confirmed on GRO image on Ancestry (researched 08/05/2007). Ordered the certificate, and the Mary who died in 1854 is _not_ the same Mary (the one in the cert died aged 19 and was the dau of John Lancashire). So where is Mary is 1861 and after? Is this the IGI marriage of William <64> and Mary <65> ? If so, their first born (that I know of), John <62>, was born 6 years later. WILLIAM LANCASHIRE Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: MARY GRACE Marriage: 07 JUN 1816 Horsley, Derby, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M055131 1767 - 1810 0428917 Film 6905234 Film M055131 1813 - 1837 0498093 Film NONE Sheet: 00 /=============================================================================/ ID: <66> Status: D Name: \Francis Lancashire\ Gender: M Gen: -7 Position: 00101000 Born: ??? Married: 23/08/1789, Horsley, Derbyshire [IGI] Died: ??? Partner: <67> Child: <64> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: IGI christening entry for William Lancashire <64> in 1789 (right name, right place, right year) : WILLIAM LANCASHIRE Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 29 NOV 1789 Denby, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: P000441 1573 - 1812 0823622 Film 6904778 Film Sheet: 00 Film or fiche number 0823622 Item 1 Denby, Derbyshire, England, christenings and burials, 1573-1812 Church of England. Parish Church of Denby (Derbyshire) Item 2 Parish register transcripts, 1558-1847 Church of England. Parish Church of Wilmslow (Cheshire) Item 3 Parish register transcripts, 1558-1847 Church of England. Parish Church of Wilmslow (Cheshire) Item 4 Christenings, Congleton, Cheshire, England, 1750-1769 Church of England. St. Peter's Church (Congleton, Cheshire) Item 5 Parish register transcript, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Church of England. Parochial Chapelry (Birkenhead) Are these siblings of William <64> in the IGI? WILLIAM LANCASHIRE <64> Christening: 29 NOV 1789 Denby, Derby, England Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE JAMES LANCASHIRE Christening: 24 MAR 1791 Denby, Derby, England Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Christening: 14 OCT 1792 Denby, Derby, England Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE ELLEN LANCASHIRE Christening: 10 NOV 1794 Denby, Derby, England Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Mother: ANNE THOMAS LANCASHIRE Christening: 18 DEC 1796 Denby, Derby, England Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Mother: ANNE MARY LANCASHIRE Christening: 24 APR 1799 Denby, Derby, England Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Mother: ANNE JOHN LANCASHIRE Christening: 20 JAN 1802 Denby, Derby, England Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE ANNE LANCASHIRE Christening: 09 APR 1804 Denby, Derby, England Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Mother: ANNE Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: P000441 1573 - 1812 0823622 Film 6904778 Film Sheet: 00 If all of these are Williams siblings, then it suggests Williams mother was Anne <67>. If so, is this is very likely to be Francis <66> and Anne's <67> marriage: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: ANN ALLTON Marriage: 23 AUG 1789 Horsley, Derby, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M055131 1767 - 1810 0428917 Film 6905234 Film M055131 1813 - 1837 0498093 Film NONE Sheet: 00 NB. Horsley is barely 2 miles from Denby - see map. The date also fits, same year as the earliest known child William was born. Are any of these christenings of Francis? FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 28 JUN 1756 Horsley, Derby, England Death: 29 JUN 1756 Burial: Parents: Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Mother: MARY GRACE Messages: Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number. Source Information: Batch Number: 8605830 Sheet: 63 Source Call No.: 1396166 Type: Film FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 25 AUG 1761 Horsley, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Mother: MARY GRACE Messages: Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number. Source Information: Batch Number: 8605830 Sheet: 63 Source Call No.: 1396166 Type: Film FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 24 MAY 1780 Horsley, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOSEPH LANCASHIRE Mother: JANE Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C055131 1767 - 1810 0428917 Film 6905233 Film C055131 1813 - 1844 0498093 Film NONE Sheet: 00 /=============================================================================/ ID: <67> Status: D Name: \Anne Allton\ Gender: F Gen: -7 Position: 00101001 Born: ??? Married: 23/08/1789, Horsley, Derbyshire [IGI] Died: ??? Partner: <66> Child: <64> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: IGI: WILLIAM LANCASHIRE <64> Christening: 29 NOV 1789 Denby, Derby, England Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE JAMES LANCASHIRE Christening: 24 MAR 1791 Denby, Derby, England Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Christening: 14 OCT 1792 Denby, Derby, England Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE ELLEN LANCASHIRE Christening: 10 NOV 1794 Denby, Derby, England Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Mother: ANNE THOMAS LANCASHIRE Christening: 18 DEC 1796 Denby, Derby, England Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Mother: ANNE MARY LANCASHIRE Christening: 24 APR 1799 Denby, Derby, England Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Mother: ANNE JOHN LANCASHIRE Christening: 20 JAN 1802 Denby, Derby, England Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE ANNE LANCASHIRE Christening: 09 APR 1804 Denby, Derby, England Father: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Mother: ANNE Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: P000441 1573 - 1812 0823622 Film 6904778 Film Sheet: 00 Film or fiche number 0823622 Item 1 Denby, Derbyshire, England, christenings and burials, 1573-1812 Church of England. Parish Church of Denby (Derbyshire) Item 2 Parish register transcripts, 1558-1847 Church of England. Parish Church of Wilmslow (Cheshire) Item 3 Parish register transcripts, 1558-1847 Church of England. Parish Church of Wilmslow (Cheshire) Item 4 Christenings, Congleton, Cheshire, England, 1750-1769 Church of England. St. Peter's Church (Congleton, Cheshire) Item 5 Parish register transcript, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Church of England. Parochial Chapelry (Birkenhead) If all of these are Williams siblings, then it suggests Williams mother was Anne <67>. If so, is this is very likely to be Francis <66> and Anne's <67> marriage: FRANCIS LANCASHIRE Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: ANN ALLTON Marriage: 23 AUG 1789 Horsley, Derby, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M055131 1767 - 1810 0428917 Film 6905234 Film M055131 1813 - 1837 0498093 Film NONE Sheet: 00 NB. Horsley is barely 2 miles from Denby - see map. The date also fits, same year as the earliest known child William was born. Is this Annes christening?? ANNE AULTON Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 05 AUG 1764 Denby, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: WILLIAM AULTON Mother: ELLEN Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: P000441 1573 - 1812 0823622 Film 6904778 Film Sheet: 00 Other possibilities: You searched for: Anne Allton, Birth/Christening, 1744 - 1784, Derby, England, British Isles Exact Spelling: Off 1. Ann Alton - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 04 AUG 1745 Shottle, Duffield, Derby, England 2. ANNE AULTON - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 24 AUG 1750 St Werburgh, Derby, Derby, England 3. ANN ALTON - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 04 APR 1756 Doveridge, Derby, England 4. ANNE AULTON - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 05 AUG 1764 Denby, Derby, England 8. ANNE AULTON - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 07 APR 1782 Denby, Derby, England 9. Ann Alton - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 1783 Alfreton, Derby, England 10. ANN ALTON OR HALTON OR AUTON - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 27 JUL 1783 Smalley, Derby, England /=============================================================================/ ID: <68> Status: D Name: \Charlotte Ward\ Gender: F Gen: -3 Position: 000000#^ Born: c1850, Woodhouse/Handsworth, Yorkshire c1850, Woodhouse, Yorkshire [1901C] c1850, Woodhouse, Yorkshire [1881C] c1851, Woodhouse, Yorkshire [1871C] c1850, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1851C] Married: April-June 1875, Sheffield district [GRO] Died: ??? Partner: George Waller Child: ??? Brought up John Ward <45>, son of cousin Arthur <90> Father: Thomas Ward <<123>> Mother: Phebe ? <<123>> Sibling: \Thomas Ward:c1844\ Aged 7 in 1851 (so born c1844), born Handsworth, Yorkshire; Scholar; Living in Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1851C] Also implied in 1871 census as father described as 'Thomas Ward Snr' Unable to positively identify in 1881 census Unable to positively identify in 1891 census Unable to positively identify in 1901 census \James Ward:c1846\ Aged 5 in 1851 (so born c1846), born Handsworth, Yorkshire; Scholar; Living in Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1851C] Located possible James Ward (age 36 (born c1845) born in Handsworth) in 1881 census. See James_Ward_36. Unable to positively identify in 1891 census Unable to positively identify in 1901 census \Frederick Ward:c1846\ Aged 4 in 1851 (so born c1847), born Handsworth, Yorkshire; Scholar; Living in Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1851C] Aged 25 in 1871 (so born c1846), born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; Living in Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1871C] Aged 34 in 1881 (so born c1847), born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; Cattle Dealer; Living in Back Lane, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1881C] Located possible Fred K Ward (age 44 (born c1847) born in Handsworth) in 1891 census. See Fred_K_Ward_44. Unable to positively identify in 1901 census \Mary Jane Ward:c1849\ Aged 2 in 1851 (so born c1849), born Handsworth, Yorkshire; Living in Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1851C] Aged 22 in 1871 (so born c1849), born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; Living in Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1871C] Unable to positively identify in 1891 census - perhaps she married? Unable to positively identify in 1901 census - perhaps she married? \Phebe Ward:c1853\ Aged 18 in 1871 (so born c1853), born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; Living in Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1871C] Unable to find in 1881 - perhaps she married? Notes: Hilda <<7>> had said about an Eleanor Ward: --- John <45> lived with his aunt Eleanor Ward after Phoebe <91> died when John <45> was 2 years old. [Hilda <<7>>] Lived in Beighton. [Hilda <<7>>] Married George Waller, an undertaker and joiner in Beighton [Hilda <<7>>] --- John, it seems did indeed live with \George Waller:c1850\, but George was married to Charlotte Ward, not Eleanor, and Charlotte was not Johns <45> literal 'aunt' but seems to have been Arthurs <90> cousin. In 1901: George is recorded as a Joiner + Wheelwright; age 51 (so born c1850); born in Beighton, Derbyshire; living at High Street, Beighton, Derbyshire [1901C] Charlotte Ward was aged 51 (so born c1850); born in Woodhouse, Yorks; living at High Street, Beighton, Derbyshire [1901C] Also present in 1901 is boarder John Ward <45> aged 17, as well as Georges son Samuel Waller and adopted son Frank Waller In 1881: George is recorded as a Joiner & Wheelwright; age 31 (so born c1850); born in Beighton, Derbyshire; living at Main Street, Beighton, Derbyshire; living with father William Chambers (66) and mother Mary (70) [1881C] Charlotte Ward was aged 31 (so born c1850); born in Woodhouse, Yorks; living at Main Street, Beighton, Derbyshire Also present in 1881 are Georges sons T Fred Waller and Samuel Waller In 1871: Charlotte is aged 20 (so born c1851); born in Woodhouse, Yorks; living in Handsworth, Yorkshire; Daughter of Thomas and Phebea Ward In 1851: Charlotte is aged 1 (so born c1850); born in Handsworth, Yorks; living in Woodhouse, Yorkshire; Daughter of Thomas and Phebe Ward In April-June 1875, in the Sheffield district, George Waller married Charlotte Ward (vol/page 9c/438) Birth ref: Charlotte Ward, Jun 1850, Sheffield, XXII/644 [GRO image] Known children of George Waller - unknown if Charlotte was the mother : \T Fred Waller:c1878\ Aged 3 in 1881 (so born c1878), born Beighton, Derbyshire; living at Beighton, Derbyshire [1881C] Unable to positively identify in 1891 census Found possible in 1901, with Fred Waller, 23, born Beighton, Derbyshire as a visitor to Daniel Mattson. See Fred_Waller_23. \Samuel Waller:c1880\ Aged 1 in 1881 (so born c1880), born Beighton, Derbyshire; living at Beighton, Derbyshire [1881C] Aged 21 in 1901 (so born c1880), born Beighton, Derbyshire; Butcher; living at High Street, Beighton, Derbyshire [1901C] \Frank Waller:c1885\ Adopted son of George Aged 16 in 1901 (so born c1885), born Crick, Derbyshire; General Labourer; living at High Street, Beighton, Derbyshire [1901C] (Finding birth refs for these children and ordering birth certificates for these would clear up who the mother is.) George Waller's parents were \William Chambers:c1815\, a Pork Butcher; born c1815, Anstin, Yorkshire [1881C] and \Mary ?:c1811\, born c1811, Waleswood, Yorkshire [1881C] IGI christening of Charlotte: CHARLOTTE WARD Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 28 APR 1850 Handsworth, Yorkshire, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: THOMAS WARD Mother: PHOEBE Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C109321 1813 - 1874 0990889 Film 6902414 Film Sheet: 00 Bishop's transcripts, 1598-1874 Church of England. Parish Church of Handsworth (Yorkshire) "Le Tall's Woodhouse", Pages 26 to 27, which mentions Charlottes siblings Thomas, James and Frederick : WARD FAMILY. The Ward's are a cattle-dealing family. Thomas <<123>>, George <<123>>, and Daniel <123>, all in the cattle line, are the sons of one Thomas <128>, who dealt in cattle, and Thomas was the son of George <69>, and George was the son of John <71>, so John would be the great-grand- -father of the Thomas, George and Daniel <123> of this generation. Thomas tells me his great-grandfather <71> was a shoemaker by trade, and lived on the property at Stubbin Lane-end which the Wards purchased ultimately. he commenced dealing in sheep, which he kept on the common and took to Chesterfield market to sell. He preferred cattle-dealing to shoemaking so left the last: and his descendants have evidently approved of their great-grandfather's act, for they keep to cattle-dealing. George <<123>> has retired: he paid particular attention to pig-jobbing when in business. Upon his retiring he built Netherfield House in 1870. Thomas <<123>>, his elder brother, took his trade, and now (1873) does a large business. His sons Tom, James and Fred <<68>> are all his assistants. They procure many cattle and swine from Ireland for the English Market. Daniel <123> died at Derby: his son is also a cattle-dealer. John Ward, another branch of family, was a stone-mason: William, his brother, was a gardener. John Ward, butcher, living 1873, is another branch. Rowland, auctioneer, is brother to John the butcher: he is living (1873). The Wards of Swallownest are also blood relations to the Wards of Woodhouse. In 1901, this is John <45>, living with George Waller and Charlotte Ward : RG13/3259, page 40 Registration district: Chesterfield Sub-registration district: Eckington ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Folio: 101 Page: 40 Household schedule number: 192 Admin County: Derby Civil parish: Beighton Eccl parish: Beighton Rural District: Chesterfield Parliamentary Division: N E Town/Village/Hamlet: Beighton Address: High Street Household: NAME REL M.ST AGE OCCUPATION EMPL/WKR IF WKG AT HOME BIRTHPLACE George Waller, Head, M, 51, Joiner + Wheelwright, Employer, working at home, Derbys Beighton Charlotte Waller, Wife, M, 51, , , , Yorks Woodhouse Samuel Waller, Son, S, 21, Butcher, Worker, working at home, Derbys Beighton John Ward, Boarder, S, 17, Labourer (General), Worker, , Derbys Derby Frank Waller, Adopted Son, S, 16, Labourer (General), Worker, , Derbys Crick Jessie Gent, Serv't, S, 16, Domestic Servant, Worker, , Derbys Beighton (FreeBMD search on 05/04/2006 for George Waller marrying Charlotte Ward) ------- Search for Type: Marriages Surname: waller First name(s): george Start date: Mar 1850 End date: Dec 1882 Spouse's first name(s): charlotte Marriages Mar 1868 Waller George Henry Norwich 4b 195 Marriages Jun 1875 Waller George Dartford 2a 560 Waller George Sheffield 9c 438 Marriages Dec 1875 WALLER George St Albans 3a 605 Marriages Dec 1876 WALLER George William Sheffield 9c 661 Marriages Mar 1882 WALLER George St. Geo. H. Sq 1a 505 Marriages Jun 1875 DAWSON William John Sheffield 9c 438 Taylor Sarah Ellen Sheffield 9c 438 Waller George Sheffield 9c 438 ******************************** WARD Charlotte Sheffield 9c 438 ******************************** Marriages Dec 1876 BEEBE Joseph Sheffield 9c 661 GRAVES George Sheffield 9c 661 Haywood Rose Ann Sheffield 9c 661 LISTER Charlotte Ellen Sheffield 9c 661 WALLER George William Sheffield 9c 661 ------- George Waller and Charlotte Ward in 1881 : Civil parish: Beighton County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: Main Street Source information: RG12/4670 Registration district: Rotherham Sub registration district: Beighton ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Folio: 7 Page: 7 GSU Number: 1342129 Household: NAME REL MF M.ST AGE OCCUPATION BIRTHPLACE William Chambers Head M Mar 66 Pork Butcher Anstin, Yorks Mary Chambers Wife F Mar 70 Pork Butcher Wife Waleswood, Yorks George Waller Son M Mar 31 Joiner & Wheelwright Beighton, Derby Charlotte Waller Sons Wife F Mar 31 Joiner & Wheelwright Wife Woodhouse, Yorks T Fred Waller Grandson M 3 Beighton, Derby Samuel Waller Grandson M 1 Beighton, Derby Charlotte Ward in 1871: Civil Parish: Handsworth Town: Woodhouse County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Woodhouse Source information: RG10/4700 Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: Handsworth ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Folio: 71 Page: 7 Household schedule number: 31 GSU Number: 847240 Household: NAME REL MF M.ST AGE OCCUPATION BIRTHPLACE EstBYear Thomas Ward Snr Head M Mar 59 Cattle Dealer Yorks Woodhouse abt 1812 Phebea Ward Wife F Mar 61 Yorks Woodhouse abt 1810 Mary Jane Ward Daur F Umn 22 Yorks Woodhouse abt 1849 Charlotte Ward Daur F Unm 20 Yorks Woodhouse abt 1851 Phebea Ward Daur F Unm 18 Yorks Woodhouse abt 1853 Frederick Ward Son M Unm 25 Yorks Woodhouse abt 1846 Abraham Mallison Visitor M Unm 48 Cattle Dealer Yorks Huddersfield abt 1823 William Fletcher Visitor M Widr 46 Cattle Dealer Lanc_sh Manchester abt 1825 William Hall Visitor M Unm 23 Cattle Dealer Lanc_sh Manchester abt 1848 Could not find Charlotte in 1861 Charlotte Ward in 1851: Street address: Woodhouse Civil parish: Handsworth County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Source information: HO107/2342 Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: Brightside ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Folio: 556 Page: 7 Household schedule number: 23 GSU Number: 87598-87600 Name MF Relation MStatus Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Thomas Ward M Head Mar 39 Cattle Dealer York're Handsworth abt 1812 Phebe Ward F Wife Mar 40 York're Handsworth abt 1811 Thos Ward M Son 7 Scholar York're Handsworth abt 1844 James Ward M Son 5 Scholar York're Handsworth abt 1846 Frederic Ward M Son 4 Scholar York're Handsworth abt 1847 Mary J Ward F Daughter 2 York're Handsworth abt 1849 Charlotte Ward F Daughter 1 York're Handsworth abt 1850 George Pashley M Wife's Son 15 Scholar York're Handsworth abt 1836 Lydia Sales F Servant 60 House Servant Derby're Stavely abt 1791 Mother Phebe and son Frederick in 1881: Street address: Back Lane Civil parish: Handsworth County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Sheffield Sub registration district: Handsworth ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Name MF Relation MStatus Age Occupation Birthplace Phebe Ward F Head Wid 71 York Woodhouse Ellen Pashley F Daur Unm 40 Shopkeeper York Woodhouse Frederick Ward M Son Unm 34 Cattle Dealer York Woodhouse Elizabeth Percival F Serv 12 York Woodhouse /=============================================================================/ ID: <69> Status: D Name: \George Ward\ Thomas Wards father Gender: M Gen: -7 Position: 00000000 Born: c1747, Handsworth [IGI] [PR] (?) Christened 10/04/1747(X), Handsworth, Sheffield, Yorkshire. (Presumably uses the old new years day - see notes for details.) Married: ??? Died: ??? Partner: <70> Child: <128> Father: <71> Mother: <72> Sibling: ??? Notes: Thomas's <128> christening: THOMAS WARD Male Event(s): Birth: 11 DEC 1780 Christening: 07 JAN 1781 Handsworth, Yorkshire, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: GEORGE WARD Mother: ELIZABETH Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: J109323 1765 - 1812 0990889 Film 6902414 Film Sheet: 00 Bishop's transcripts, 1598-1874 Church of England. Parish Church of Handsworth (Yorkshire) Found an IGI marriage between George Ward and Elizabeth Shepard in Handsworth in 1768. If that marriage is right, they would have been married about 12 years before Thomas's <128> birth. GEORGE WARD Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: ELIZABETH SHEPARD Marriage: 11 JAN 1768 Handsworth, Yorkshire, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M109323 1765 - 1812 0990889 Film 6911276 Film Sheet: 00 The Handsworth parish registers confirm this marriage record exists (but note the different spelling of Shepard/Shepherd) : "Jan 11th 1768 George Ward and Elizabeth Shepherd marreyed" Also possible is this marriage : (If this one is right, Thomas <128> would have been born 8 years later.) GEORGE WARD Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: ELIZABETH SANDERSON Marriage: 27 APR 1772 Cathedral Saint Peter, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M007756 1746 - 1774 0919325 Film 6909645 Film Sheet: 00 Bishop's transcripts for Sheffield, 1608-1828 Church of England. Parish Church of Sheffield (Yorkshire) "Le Tall's Woodhouse" suggests the father of my George Ward <69>, a Shoemaker, was John Ward <71>, also a Shoemaker, consistent with this IGI christening and the parish register. Sadly, it gives very few dates for any members of the family. The Handsworth parish registers give for his children: "Thomas Ward son of George and Elizabeth Woodhouse Shoemaker" <128> "Jonathon son of George and Elizabeth Woodhouse Shoemaker" <<128>> "anne (not male) Bapt May 25th of Woodhouse Shoemaker" <<128>> Which tallies well with the description of John <71> as a Shoemaker. An IGI christening of the right place and period, and the only one found for George <69> that matches with John <71> as the father, is: GEORGE WARD Event(s): Birth: Christening: 10 APR 1747 Handsworth, Yorkshire, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN WARD Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C109322 1708 - 1764 0990888 Film 6902414 Film Sheet: 00 Bishop's transcripts, 1598-1874 Church of England. Parish Church of Handsworth (Yorkshire) The Handsworth parish registers confirm this christening: "George Ward bapt Apr 1747 son of John Ward" [PR] {NB. The christening date, before 1752, presumably uses the old new years day - with NYD being Lady Day (25th March). This would appear to be the case as the parish register also says 1747, like the IGI.} This would make George <69> aged about 21 in 1768, at the time of his possible marriage to Elizabeth Shephard/Shepherd. "Le Tall's Woodhouse", Pages 26 to 27 : WARD FAMILY. The Ward's are a cattle-dealing family. Thomas <<123>>, George <<123>>, and Daniel <123>, all in the cattle line, are the sons of one Thomas <128>, who dealt in cattle, and Thomas was the son of George <69>, and George was the son of John <71>, so John would be the great-grand- -father of the Thomas, George and Daniel <123> of this generation. Thomas tells me his great-grandfather <71> was a shoemaker by trade, and lived on the property at Stubbin Lane-end which the Wards purchased ultimately. he commenced dealing in sheep, which he kept on the common and took to Chesterfield market to sell. He preferred cattle-dealing to shoemaking so left the last: and his descendants have evidently approved of their great-grandfather's act, for they keep to cattle-dealing. George <<123>> has retired: he paid particular attention to pig-jobbing when in business. Upon his retiring he built Netherfield House in 1870. Thomas <<123>>, his elder brother, took his trade, and now (1873) does a large business. His sons Tom, James and Fred <<68>> are all his assistants. They procure many cattle and swine from Ireland for the English Market. Daniel <123> died at Derby: his son is also a cattle-dealer. John Ward, another branch of family, was a stone-mason: William, his brother, was a gardener. John Ward, butcher, living 1873, is another branch. Rowland, auctioneer, is brother to John the butcher: he is living (1873). The Wards of Swallownest are also blood relations to the Wards of Woodhouse. Are these Georges <69> siblings? {NB. These christening date, before 1752, presumably use the old new years day - with NYD being Lady Day (25th March). The IGI seems to have not converted these to the modern New Year format as the parish register for George also says 1747.} Results for: Any Event, 1730 - 1770, Yorkshire, England, British Isles Father: John Ward Exact Spelling: Off Batch Number: C109322 1. WILLIAM WARD - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 28 OCT 1733 Handsworth, Yorkshire, England 2. JONATHAN WARD - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 12 OCT 1740 Handsworth, Yorkshire, England 3. MARY WARDE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 03 AUG 1735 Handsworth, Yorkshire, England 4. GEORGE WARD - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 10 APR 1747 Handsworth, Yorkshire, England WILLIAM WARD Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 28 OCT 1733 Handsworth, Yorkshire, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN WARD Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C109322 1708 - 1764 0990888 Film 6902414 Film Sheet: 00 Bishop's transcripts, 1598-1874 Church of England. Parish Church of Handsworth (Yorkshire) MARY WARDE Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 03 AUG 1735 Handsworth, Yorkshire, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN WARDE Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C109322 1708 - 1764 0990888 Film 6902414 Film Sheet: 00 Bishop's transcripts, 1598-1874 Church of England. Parish Church of Handsworth (Yorkshire) JONATHAN WARD Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 12 OCT 1740 Handsworth, Yorkshire, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN WARD Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C109322 1708 - 1764 0990888 Film 6902414 Film Sheet: 00 Bishop's transcripts, 1598-1874 Church of England. Parish Church of Handsworth (Yorkshire) /=============================================================================/ ID: <70> Status: D Name: \Elizabeth ?\ Thomas Wards mother Possibly Elizabeth Shepard/Shepherd?? Gender: F Gen: -7 Position: 00000001 Born: ??? Married: ??? Died: ??? Partner: <69> Child: <128> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: Thomas's <128> christening: THOMAS WARD Male Event(s): Birth: 11 DEC 1780 Christening: 07 JAN 1781 Handsworth, Yorkshire, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: GEORGE WARD Mother: ELIZABETH Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: J109323 1765 - 1812 0990889 Film 6902414 Film Sheet: 00 Bishop's transcripts, 1598-1874 Church of England. Parish Church of Handsworth (Yorkshire) Found an IGI marriage between George Ward and Elizabeth Shepard in Handsworth in 1768. If that marriage is right, they would have been married about 12 years before Thomas's <128> birth. GEORGE WARD Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: ELIZABETH SHEPARD Marriage: 11 JAN 1768 Handsworth, Yorkshire, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M109323 1765 - 1812 0990889 Film 6911276 Film Sheet: 00 The Handsworth parish registers confirm this marriage record exists (but note the different spelling of Shepard/Shepherd) : "Jan 11th 1768 George Ward and Elizabeth Shepherd marreyed" /=============================================================================/ ID: <71> Status: D Name: \John Ward\ Gender: M Gen: -8 Position: 000000000 Born: ??? Married: ??? Died: ??? Partner: <72> Child: <69> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: "Le Tall's Woodhouse" suggests the father of my George Ward <69>, a Shoemaker, was John Ward <71>, also a Shoemaker, consistent with this IGI christening and the parish register. Sadly, it gives very few dates for any members of the family. The Handsworth parish registers give for his children: "Thomas Ward son of George and Elizabeth Woodhouse Shoemaker" <128> "Jonathon son of George and Elizabeth Woodhouse Shoemaker" <<128>> "anne (not male) Bapt May 25th of Woodhouse Shoemaker" <<128>> Which tallies well with the description of John <71> as a Shoemaker. An IGI christening of the right place and period, and the only one found for George <69> that matches with John <71> as the father, is: GEORGE WARD Event(s): Birth: Christening: 10 APR 1747 Handsworth, Yorkshire, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN WARD Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C109322 1708 - 1764 0990888 Film 6902414 Film Sheet: 00 Bishop's transcripts, 1598-1874 Church of England. Parish Church of Handsworth (Yorkshire) The Handsworth parish registers confirm this christening: "George Ward bapt Apr 1747 son of John Ward" "Le Tall's Woodhouse", Pages 26 to 27 : WARD FAMILY. The Ward's are a cattle-dealing family. Thomas <<123>>, George <<123>>, and Daniel <123>, all in the cattle line, are the sons of one Thomas <128>, who dealt in cattle, and Thomas was the son of George <69>, and George was the son of John <71>, so John would be the great-grand- -father of the Thomas, George and Daniel <123> of this generation. Thomas tells me his great-grandfather <71> was a shoemaker by trade, and lived on the property at Stubbin Lane-end which the Wards purchased ultimately. he commenced dealing in sheep, which he kept on the common and took to Chesterfield market to sell. He preferred cattle-dealing to shoemaking so left the last: and his descendants have evidently approved of their great-grandfather's act, for they keep to cattle-dealing. George <<123>> has retired: he paid particular attention to pig-jobbing when in business. Upon his retiring he built Netherfield House in 1870. Thomas <<123>>, his elder brother, took his trade, and now (1873) does a large business. His sons Tom, James and Fred <<68>> are all his assistants. They procure many cattle and swine from Ireland for the English Market. Daniel <123> died at Derby: his son is also a cattle-dealer. John Ward, another branch of family, was a stone-mason: William, his brother, was a gardener. John Ward, butcher, living 1873, is another branch. Rowland, auctioneer, is brother to John the butcher: he is living (1873). The Wards of Swallownest are also blood relations to the Wards of Woodhouse. /=============================================================================/ ID: <72> Status: D Name: \? ?\ Gender: M Gen: -8 Position: 000000001 Born: ??? Married: ??? Died: ??? Partner: <71> Child: <69> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: Reserved for unknown partner of John Ward <71> and mother of George <69>. /=============================================================================/ ID: <73> Status: D Name: \Robert Cooper\ Gender: M Gen: -5 Position: 00100 Born: c1825, Gloucestershire, England [1851C] [1881C] [1891C] The 1851 census gives Siston, Gloucestershire [1851C] The 1881 census gives Hambrook, Gloucestershire [1881C] The 1891 census gives Mangsterfield, Gloucestershire [1891C] Married: ??? Died: ??? Partner: <74> Child: <52> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: Named in the marriage certificate of James Cooper <52> and Elizabeth Garratt <53> as the fasther of the groom. Occupation is stated as Miner. Named in the birth cert of James Cooper <52> as a Coal Miner living at Soundwell, Mangotsfield. 1851 census: Parish: Mangotsfield Address: Soundwell County/Island: Gloucestershire Source information: HO107/1944 Registration district: Keynsham Sub-registration district: Bitton ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Folio: 205 Page: 7 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 26 GSU Number: 221103-221104 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Cooper M Head Mar 26 Coal Miner Siston, Glostersh. abt 1825 Robert Cooper <73> Ann Cooper F Wife Mar 25 Mangotsfield, Glostersh. abt 1826 Ann <74> John Cooper M Son 4(?) Mangotsfield, Glostersh. abt 1847 Robert Cooper M Son 3 Mangotsfield, Glostersh. abt 1848 Thomas Cooper M Son 1 Mangotsfield, Glostersh. abt 1850 Similar 1851 info available from http://www.rootsweb.com/~cotswold/GLSontheweb.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~cotswold/1nameCOO-COZ.txt http://www.rootsweb.com/~cotswold/mangotsfield51.txt Index: COOPER Robert 26 Coal Miner Siston / Mangotsfield 51 1881 census for that Robert and Ann Cooper (census taken 03/04/1891) : Household: Name Relation M.Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Robert COOPER Head M Male 56 Hambrook, Gloucester, England Coal Miner Ann COOPER Wife M Female 52 Mangersfield, Gloucester, England Source Information: Dwelling North Staveley Aston Terraces Census Place Aston Cum Aughton & Ulley, York, England Family History Library Film 1342129 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4670 / 71 Page Number 31 James <52> Cooper and Elizabeth <53> Cooper (Garratt) are also in Aston in 1881, and also in RG11/4670 (though a different folio). It seems James and his Father may have lived on the same street for at least 10 years. 1891 census for Elizabeth Cooper (Garratt) <53> : Cooper, Ann 16 Netherton, Worcestershire Daughter Aston Yorkshire Location: Administrative county: Yorkshire Civil parish: Aston Village: Aston Rural sanitary district: Rotherham Parliamentary borough: Rotherham Eccl. parish/district: All Saints Address: No. 9 Ref: RG12/3844 Household: Elizabeth Cooper, Head, Widow, 39, Living on own means, Worstershire Netherton Ann Cooper, Daur, Single, 16, Worstershire Netherton Marie (Maria?) Cooper, Daur, Single, 13, Worstershire Netherton Elizabeth Cooper, Daur, 9, Yorkshire Aston James Cooper, Son, 4, Yorkshire Aston Lilly Cooper, Daur, 1, Yorkshire Aston Note the absence of James Cooper senior, and Elizabath senior as a widow. So James Cooper <52> died between 1881 and 1891 - useful to know! On the previous image - and living on the same street - is a Robert Cooper, age 66, married to Ann Cooper age 61. Probably the same Robert Cooper <73> who is the father of Annie's <42> father James Cooper <52>. 1891 census for Robert Cooper aged 66 (census taken 05/04/1891) : Location: Administrative county: Yorkshire Civil parish: Aston Village: Aston Rural sanitary district: Rotherham Parliamentary borough: Rotherham Eccl. parish/district: All Saints Address: No. 2 Ref: RG12/3844 Household: Robert Cooper, Head, Married, 66, Coal Miner, Gloucestershire Mangsterfield Ann Cooper, Wife, Married, 61, Gloucestershire Mangsterfield William Coumley, Boarder, Single, 27, Coal Miner, Place Unknown On the next image - and living on the same street - is Elizabeth Cooper (Garratt) <53>, widow of Roberts <73> son James <52>. Is this their marriage in the IGI? ROBERT COOPER Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: ANN STRONG Marriage: 26 APR 1847 Chipping Campden, Gloucester, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M026212 1616 - 1854 0504453, 0504454 Film 6902597 Film Sheet: 00 Is this his christening in the IGI? ROBERT BRANSBY COOPER Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 05 AUG 1824 Hardwicke, Gloucester, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: ROBERT JERMYN COOPER Mother: ARABELLA HARRIETT Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C028954 1755 - 1875 0991299 Film 6911720 Film Sheet: 00 /=============================================================================/ ID: <74> Status: D Name: \Ann Davis\ Gender: F Gen: -5 Position: 00101 Born: c1830, Gloucestershire, England [1851C] [1881C] [1891C] The 1851 census gives Mangotsfield, Gloucestershire [1851C] The 1881 census gives Mangersfield, Gloucestershire [1881C] The 1891 census gives Mangsterfield, Gloucestershire [1891C] Married: ??? Died: ??? Partner: <73> Child: <52> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: Named in the birth cert of James Cooper <52>, giving pre-married name of Davis. 1891 census for Robert Cooper aged 66 (census taken 05/04/1891) : Location: Administrative county: Yorkshire Civil parish: Aston Village: Aston Rural sanitary district: Rotherham Parliamentary borough: Rotherham Eccl. parish/district: All Saints Address: No. 2 Ref: RG12/3844 Household: Robert Cooper, Head, Married, 66, Coal Miner, Gloucestershire Mangsterfield Ann Cooper, Wife, Married, 61, Gloucestershire Mangsterfield William Coumley, Boarder, Single, 27, Coal Miner, Place Unknown On the next image - and living on the same street - is Elizabeth Cooper (Garratt) <53>, widow of Roberts <73> son James <52>. 1851 census: Parish: Mangotsfield Address: Soundwell County/Island: Gloucestershire Source information: HO107/1944 Registration district: Keynsham Sub-registration district: Bitton ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Folio: 205 Page: 7 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 26 GSU Number: 221103-221104 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Cooper M Head Mar 26 Coal Miner Siston, Glostersh. abt 1825 Robert Cooper <73> Ann Cooper F Wife Mar 25 Mangotsfield, Glostersh. abt 1826 Ann <74> John Cooper M Son 4(?) Mangotsfield, Glostersh. abt 1847 Robert Cooper M Son 3 Mangotsfield, Glostersh. abt 1848 Thomas Cooper M Son 1 Mangotsfield, Glostersh. abt 1850 Similar 1851 info available from http://www.rootsweb.com/~cotswold/GLSontheweb.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~cotswold/1nameCOO-COZ.txt http://www.rootsweb.com/~cotswold/mangotsfield51.txt Index: COOPER Robert 26 Coal Miner Siston / Mangotsfield 51 1881 census for that Robert and Ann Cooper (census taken 03/04/1891) : Household: Name Relation M.Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Robert COOPER Head M Male 56 Hambrook, Gloucester, England Coal Miner Ann COOPER Wife M Female 52 Mangersfield, Gloucester, England Source Information: Dwelling North Staveley Aston Terraces Census Place Aston Cum Aughton & Ulley, York, England Family History Library Film 1342129 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4670 / 71 Page Number 31 James <52> Cooper and Elizabeth <53> Cooper (Garratt) are also in Aston in 1881, and also in RG11/4670 (though a different folio). It seems James and his Father may have lived on the same street for at least 10 years. Is this their marriage in the IGI? ROBERT COOPER Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: ANN STRONG Marriage: 26 APR 1847 Chipping Campden, Gloucester, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M026212 1616 - 1854 0504453, 0504454 Film 6902597 Film Sheet: 00 /=============================================================================/ ID: <75> Status: D Name: \Richard Stead\ Gender: M Gen: -5 Position: 011110 Born: ??? Married: ??? Died: ??? Partner: <76> Child: <47> ? Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: VRI gives possible (unconfirmed) Mary Stead: STEAD, Mary Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 21 Jul 1861 Recorded in: Bolton Percy, Yorkshire, England Father: Richard STEAD Mother: Ann Source: FHL Film 1068315 Dates: 1854 - 1862 The place of birth does not match the census - but the census may be wrong. There are many other Mary Steads the VRI gives, but this is the only one circa 1862 (+/- 5 years) in Yorkshire. If valid, then there would seem to be an elder sibling: STEAD, Samuel Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 27 Nov 1859 Recorded in: Bolton Percy, Yorkshire, England Father: Richard STEAD Mother: Ann Source: FHL Film 1068315 Dates: 1854 - 1862 Bolton Percy is closest to York, but in the vicinity of Leeds (which the census gave as the birth place for Mary). /=============================================================================/ ID: <76> Status: D Name: \Ann ____\ Gender: F Gen: -5 Position: 011111 Born: ??? Married: ??? Died: ??? Partner: <75> Child: <47> ? Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: VRI gives possible (unconfirmed) Mary Stead: STEAD, Mary Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 21 Jul 1861 Recorded in: Bolton Percy, Yorkshire, England Father: Richard STEAD Mother: Ann Source: FHL Film 1068315 Dates: 1854 - 1862 The place of birth does not match the census - but the census may be wrong. There are many other Mary Steads the VRI gives, but this is the only one circa 1862 (+/- 5 years) in Yorkshire. If valid, then there would seem to be an elder sibling: STEAD, Samuel Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 27 Nov 1859 Recorded in: Bolton Percy, Yorkshire, England Father: Richard STEAD Mother: Ann Source: FHL Film 1068315 Dates: 1854 - 1862 Bolton Percy is closest to York, but in the vicinity of Leeds (which the census gave as the birth place for Mary). /=============================================================================/ ID: <77> Status: D Name: \Frances Bennett\ Gender: F Gen: -4 Position: 01100* Born: c1846 [http://www.calverley.info/fars_bap.htm] Married: 11/08/1866, Leeds [HK] Died: 11/07/1867, age 21 [http://www.calverley.info/fars_bap.htm] 11/07/1867, age 21 [HK] Buried 18 July 1867 @ Farsley Baptist, at 21 [HK] Certainly died in 1867, between 20/06/1867 (when Francis Gladstone Knapton was born) and 22/07/1867, by which time she is recorded as deceased Partner: <39> Child: <78> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: From Greville (07/08/2003): With regards to Gladstone - his is the Certificate that the Registrar did not send. Reason being that the name of his mother did not correspond to the one (Emma) that was on my application. This lends to confirm that he was born before John & Emma married. I am concluding that John was his father - but was John married before? I rather think he may have been - more detective work. I'll keep you posted. Grevile (18/09/2003): I've finally managed to get some info on the above-named [Francis Gladstone KNAPTON]. You will recall that he appeared in the 1881 Census in Stanningley aged 13 and then in the 1901 Census in Farsley aged 33 but that I had failed to get a birth certificate from Leeds. I applied for one from the GRO and it arrived yesterday. It shows his DOB as 20th June 1867. Parents: John Marshall Knapton & Frances Knapton, formerly Bennett (deceased). The birth was registered on 22nd July 1867, so Frances presumably died fairly soon after giving birth to young Francis G. In due course I hope to get their Marriage certificate and Frances's Death cert. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.calverley.info/fars_bap.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Page Surname Name Died Age Born Relationship Relation Comments 28 Knapton Emma 1903 01 23 54 Wife of John 2nd Wife 28 Knapton Frances 1867 07 11 21 Wife of John 28 Knapton John Marshall 1914 12 28 69 Husband of Frances & Emma 28 Knapton Maria 1946 03 25 Daughter of John Eldset Daughter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /=============================================================================/ ID: <78> Status: D Name: \Francis Gladstone Knapton\ Gender: M Gen: -3 Position: 01100*^ Born: 20/06/1867, Stanningley, Leeds, Yorkshire [birth cert] Married: ??? Died: ??? Partner: ??? Child: ??? Father: <39> Mother: <77> Sibling: See Harry Knapton <30> Notes: From Greville (07/08/2003): With regards to Gladstone - his is the Certificate that the Registrar did not send. Reason being that the name of his mother did not correspond to the one (Emma) that was on my application. This lends to confirm that he was born before John & Emma married. I am concluding that John was his father - but was John married before? I rather think he may have been - more detective work. I'll keep you posted. Grevile (18/09/2003): I've finally managed to get some info on the above-named [Francis Gladstone KNAPTON]. You will recall that he appeared in the 1881 Census in Stanningley aged 13 and then in the 1901 Census in Farsley aged 33 but that I had failed to get a birth certificate from Leeds. I applied for one from the GRO and it arrived yesterday. It shows his DOB as 20th June 1867. Parents: John Marshall Knapton & Frances Knapton, formerly Bennett (deceased). The birth was registered on 22nd July 1867, so Frances presumably died fairly soon after giving birth to young Francis G. In due course I hope to get their Marriage certificate and Frances's Death cert. Births search on 1837online.com (30/10/2003) : Jun 1867 KNA/1 -- Sep 1867 KNA/1 KNAPTON, Francis Gladstone, 'Bradford, Yk.', 9b/230 GRO birth index: Quarter: Sep 1867 Name: Francis Gladstone Knapton <78> Mothers maiden name: ??? District: Bradford, Yk. Vol/Page: 9b/230 Researched: 30/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 31/10/2003 ; Received 07/11/2003. Birth certificate of Francis Gladstone Knapton <78> : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Bradford, Yorkshire 1867 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Pudsey in the County of York No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 425 Twentieth June 1867 Francis Boy John Marshall Frances Mulespinner John M. Knapton Twenty second N.Colefax Stanningley Gladstone Knapton Knapton Father July 1867 Registrar formerly Stanningley Bennett Pudsey (deceased) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1871 census: Township: Bramley Municipal Borough: Leeds Municipal Ward: Bramley Parliamentary Boro: Leeds Town: Bramley Village: Stanningley Local Board: Leeds Town Council Ecclesiastical District: St Thomas, Stanningley Address: Fowler's Buildings [on New Row - which is also mentioned three households up - ?] Name Rel. M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace John Knapton Head Mar 58 Woollen Spinner Yorkshire Leeds Hannah Knapton Wife Mar 51 Yorkshire Hunslet Wilson Knapton Son Unm 17 Boiler Maker Yorkshire Armley Tom Knapton Son 14 Boiler Maker Yorkshire Bramley Mary A Knapton Daughter 12 Worsted Piecer Yorkshire Bramley James Knapton Son 10 Fiffit Heater Yorkshire Bramley Francis G Knapton Nephew 3 Scholar Yorkshire Stanningley Source information PRO Reference: RG10/4526 Registration district: Bramley Sub-registration district: Bramley ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Folio: 17 Page: 28 Household schedule number: 150 Civil parish: Bramley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England 1881 census: Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability John KNAPTON Head M Male 67 Leeds, York, England Tobacconist Hannah KNAPTON Wife M Female 60 Hunslet, York, England Tom KNAPTON Son U Male 24 Bramley, York, England Boiler Smith James KNAPTON Son U Male 20 Bramley, York, England Labourer Iron Foundry Francis G. KNAPTON G Son Male 13 Stanningley, York, England (()) Source Information: Dwelling New Row Census Place Bramley In Bramley, York, England Family History Library Film 1342078 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4500 / 91 Page Number 34 1891 census: RG12/3673 Civil Parish: Leeds Municipal Borough: Leeds Municipal Ward: Bramley Urban Sanitary District: Leeds Parliamentary Borough/Division: Leeds Ecclesiastical Parish/District: St. Thomas Address: 3 Fern Terrace Hannah Knapton Head Wid 70 Yorkshire Hunslet James Knapton Son M 30 Labourer in Iron Foundry Yorkshire Bramley Mary [A? G? N? M? W?] Knapton Daur in law M 25 Cotton Twister Yorkshire Hunslet Jane Ann(?) Batson Daur of above 3 Yorkshire Bramley Gladstone Knapton Grandson S 23 Labourer in Iron Foundry Yorkshire Pudsey 1901 census: PRO Reference RG Number, Series RG13 Piece 4186 Folio 73 Page 26 Schedule Number 187 Location: Address 7 Cavendish Sq Beckbottom Civil Parish Farsley Rural District -- Town or Village or Hamlet -- Parliamentary Borough or Division Pudsey Ecclesiastical Parish St Johns Administrative County Yorkshire W R County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District -- Ward of Municipal Borough or Urban District -- John M Knapton, 54, Grocer And Beerseller Shopkeeper (Own Account working at home), born Yorks Leeds Emma Knapton, 52, occupation "Pub", born Yorks Farsley Gladstone Knapton, 33, Iron Fettler In Foundry, born Yorks Stanningley Maria Knapton, 24, Woollen Mender, born Yorks Farsley Lizzie Knapton, 22, Woollen Mender, born Yorks Farsley Ethel Knapton, 19, Woollen Mender, born Yorks Farsley Harry Knapton, 16, Mechanical Engineers Apprentice, born Yorks Farsley Ross Knapton, 12, born Yorks Farsley Florence Knapton, 15, born Yorks Farsley 1911 Census --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN26722 RG78PN1540 RD498 SD2 ED3 SN117 Schedule Number: 117 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Yorkshire West Riding District: Bradford Subdistrict: Bradford Central Enumeration District: 3 Parish: Bradford -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gladstone Knapton Head M 43 Married 2 None Labourer Steel Merchants Worker ~ Leeds, Yorkshire c1868 <78> Edith Knapton Wife F 45 Married - - - - ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Epworth, Lincoln c1866 William Varley Stepson M 19 Single - - - - Mule piecer Woollen Manufacture Worker ~ Sowerby Bridge, Yorks c1892 Fred Varley Stepson M 16 Single - - - - Apprentice Cabinet Maker Worker ~ Grimsby, Lincolns c1895 Charles Varley Stepson M 14 Single - - - - Shop Assistant Paint Merchants Worker ~ Grimsby, Lincolns c1897 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 3 Signature (sig) Gladstone Knapton Postal Address 46 Undercliffe St, Bradford --------------------------------------------------------- Looked on FreeBMD for marriage to Edith around 1909. Could not find any matches for francis knapton or gladstone knapton Found these for Edith Varley... Marriages Sep 1908 (>99%) FEARNLEY John Halifax 9a 922 Scan available - click to view VARLEY Edith Halifax 9a 922 Scan available - click to view Marriages Sep 1908 (>99%) BAILEY Harold Clitheroe 8e 718 Scan available - click to view ORR William Clitheroe 8e 718 Scan available - click to view SMITHIES Elizabeth Clitheroe 8e 718 Scan available - click to view VARLEY Edith Alice Clitheroe 8e 718 Scan available - click to view Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%) MANN John William Halifax 9a 929 Scan available - click to view VARLEY Edith Emma Halifax 9a 929 Scan available - click to view Marriages Mar 1910 (>99%) BARRITT Ann Burnley 8e 487 Scan available - click to view BAXTER Alfred Burnley 8e 487 Scan available - click to view Davenport George Burnley 8e 487 Scan available - click to view Haslam Dinah Burnley 8e 487 Scan available - click to view Varley Edith Burnley 8e 487 Scan available - click to view ...but none seem to be to Francis. /=============================================================================/ ID: <79> Status: D Name: \Maria Hainsworth\ Gender: F Gen: -5 Position: 011011 Born: c1808 [http://www.calverley.info/fars_bap_2.htm] ?? Christening 27/11/1800, Old Chapel Saint Peters Street-Wesleyan Methodist, Leeds, Yorkshire, England [IGI] ?? Christening 14/03/1808, Rehoboth Particular Baptist [FL] Married: 06/08/1827, Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England [IGI] Died: 14/04/1870 [http://www.calverley.info/fars_bap_2.htm] Partner: <43> Child: <40> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: Greville (18/09/2003): I also have the Birth cert and Death cert for Hainsworth Ross. It confirms he was a Boy (remember we couldn't be sure!). Father: Isaac Ross Mother: Maria Ross, formerly Hainsworth. (Now there's a surprise!!) However - the dates don't quite tally with the family bible (Karen's) dates. Birth cert shows 21st May 1846 - and not 3rd June. (Interestingly the birth was registered on 4th June - perhaps there was a misunderstanding way, way back). And the Death cert shows 12th May 1861, aged 14 - bible shows right date but 1860 and aged 13 !!!!) Rather odd. From the IGI - marriage: ISAAC ROSS Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: MARIA HAINSWORTH Marriage: 06 AUG 1827 Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M071933 1826 - 1829 0918384-0918386 Film 6900089 Film Sheet: 00 From the IGI - is this her christening: MARY HAINSWORTH Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 27 NOV 1800 Old Chapel Saint Peters Street-Wesleyan Methodist, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN HAINSWORTH Mother: MARY Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C088871 1785 - 1814 0828140 (RG4 3203) Film 6910528 Film Sheet: 00 From [FL] - possible christening: "There's a Moriah [Hainsworth] b. recorded 14 MAR 1808 Rehoboth Particular Baptist dau of James and Mary..." http://www.calverley.info/fars_bap_2.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Page Surname Name Died Age Born Relationship Relation Comments 127 Ross Isaac 1873 07 13 66 Husband of Maria 127 Ross Israel 1911 01 13 72 Son of Isaac & Maria 127 Ross Maria 1870 04 14 62 Wife of Isaac ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1841 census: Civil parish: Calverley Hundred: Morley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Beckbottom Source information: HO107/1298/3 Registration district: Bradford Sub-registration district: Calverley ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Folio: 12 Page: 16 Line number: 1 GSU Number: 464258 Name MF Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isaac Ross M 30-34 Sluber Y abt 1809 Isaac Ross <43> Maria Ross F 30-34 Y abt 1809 Maria Hainsworth <79> Sarah Ann Ross M 13 Y abt 1828 Looks at first like 'Graham' not 'Sarah Ann'! Martha Ross F 11 Y abt 1830 Ann Ross F 8 Y abt 1833 Israel Ross M 3 Y abt 1838 Mary Ross F 1 Y abt 1840 1851 census: Parish: Calverley Eccl District: St John Village: Farsley Address: Beckbottom County/Island: Yorkshire Source information: HO107/2313 Registration district: Bradford Sub-registration district: Calverley ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Folio: 119 Page: 33 Household schedule number: 128 GSU Number: 87531-940071 Name MF Relationship Mar Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isaac Ross M Head Mar 45 Slubber Yorkshire Farsley abt 1806 Isaac Ross <43> Maria Ross F Wife Mar 43 Yorkshire Farsley abt 1808 Maria Hainsworth <79> Ann Ross F Daur U 17 Burler(?) Yorkshire Farsley abt 1834 Ann Ross <<40>> Israel Ross M Son 12 Factory Boy Yorkshire Farsley abt 1839 Israel Ross <<40>> Mary Ross F Daur 10 Scholar Yorkshire Farsley abt 1841 Mary Ross <<40>> Harriet Ross F Daur 6 Scholar Yorkshire Farsley abt 1845 Harriet Ross <<40>> Hainsworth Ross M Son 4 Scholar Yorkshire Farsley abt 1847 Hainesworth Ross <<40>> Emma Ross F Daur 2 Yorkshire Farsley abt 1849 Emma Ross <40> /=============================================================================/ ID: <80> Status: D Name: \Williamson Glover\ Gender: M Gen: -5 Position: 000100 Born: c1828, Lincolnshire [1841C] c1838, Lincolnshire [1851C] 1828 [bedgreave doc] Either in Willingham, Lincolnshire *OR* Saxilby, Lincolnshire, depending on which census you believe [1881 and 1851/1891 census respectively] Christened 04/05/1828, Willingham By Stow, Lincolnshire, England [IGI] Married: 02/01/1853, Worksop, Nottinghamshire Died: 31/03/1896, Bedgreave [death certificate] 1896 [bedgreave doc] 1901 and 1911 censuses state wife Eleanor <81> to be a widow [1901C] [1911C]. Partner: <81> Child: <56> Father: <106> Mother: <107> Sibling: _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \Sarah Glover:c1822\, born c1822, Lincolnshire [1841C] In 1841: Aged 19, born Lincolnshire; living at Saxilby, Lincolnshire [1841C] In 1851: Aged 20(?), born Willingham, Lincolnshire; Housekeeper (on brother John's farm); Living at "Top of Town", Saxilby, Lincolnshire [1851C] Christened 23/12/1821, Willingham By Stow, Lincolnshire, England [IGI] Born 1821 [AB] \Elizabeth Glover:1823\, born c1823 Christened 14/11/1823, Willingham By Stow, Lincolnshire, England [IGI] Born 1823 [AB] \Theodosia Glover:c1826\ (female), born c1826, Lincolnshire In 1841: Aged 15, born Lincolnshire; living at Saxilby, Lincolnshire [1841C] In 1851: Aged 24, born Willingham, Lincolnshire; Farmers Daughter; Living at Castle Farm, Thorney, Nottinghamshire [1851C] (Also recorded, with the wrong age of 15, with brother John in the same census.) Christened 26/02/1826, Willingham By Stow, Lincolnshire, England [IGI] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \John Glover:c1821\, born c1821, Lincolnshire In 1841: Aged 20, born Lincolnshire; living at Saxilby, Lincolnshire [1841C] In 1851: Aged 31, born Wickenby, Lincolnshire; Farmer of 217 acres employing 5 men; Living at "Top of Town", Saxilby, Lincolnshire [1851C] A John Glover with matching parents is in the IGI as christened 14/11/1819, Wickenby, Lincolnshire, England [IGI] If this christening is correct (and relevant), he was born before the 1841 census indicates. Although the 1841 census does not state relationships, the IGI entry (if relevant) would confirm that John was a sibling of Williamson <80>. Born before 26/02/1826 (christening?) in Willingham By Stow, Lincolnshire [AB] \George Glover:c1830\, born c1830, Lincolnshire In 1841: Aged 10, born Lincolnshire; living at Saxilby, Lincolnshire [1841C] In 1851: Aged 20, born Saxilby, Lincolnshire; Farmers Son; Living at Castle Farm, Thorney, Nottinghamshire [1851C] born 1830 in Willingham By Stow, Lincolnshire; buried 16/04/1830, Willingham By Stow [AB] \Mary Glover:c1833\, born c1833, Lincolnshire In 1841: Aged 7, born Lincolnshire; living at Saxilby, Lincolnshire [1841C] Christened 25/08/1833, Saxilby, Lincolnshire, England [IGI] The 1841 census would indicate she was born c1834. Although the 1841 does not state relationships, the IGI christening states Mary's parents to be the same as the others of Williamson's <80> siblings, therefore we can say she is a sibling. \Jane Glover:c1835\, born c1835, Lincolnshire In 1841: Aged 5, born Lincolnshire; living at Saxilby, Lincolnshire [1841C] In 1851: Aged 15, born Saxilby, Lincolnshire; Scholar; At brother John's farm; Living at "Top of Town", Saxilby, Lincolnshire [1851C] Christened 12/05/1835, Saxilby, Lincolnshire, England [IGI] The 1841 census would indicate she was born c1836. Although the 1841 does not state relationships, the IGI christening states Jane's parents to be the same as the others of Williamson's <80> siblings, therefore we can say she is a sibling. Ann Glover <59> \Joseph Glover:1841\, born 1841 [1841C] in Saxilby, Lincoln, England [1881C,1891C] Born circa 1840 [1891C,GRO] in Saxilby, Lincoln, England [1881C,1891C] In 1841: Aged 5 months, so born 1841 (census was taken in June 1841), born Lincolnshire; living at Saxilby, Lincolnshire [1841C] In 1851: Aged 10, born Saxilby, Lincolnshire; Scholar; At brother John's farm; Living at "Top of Town", Saxilby, Lincolnshire [1851C] In 1871: Aged 29, born Saxilby, Lincolnshire; Grocer; Living at Low Hill (Bow Hill?), Handsworth/Woodhouse, Sheffield, Yorkshire [1871C] In 1881: Aged 44(?), born Saxilby, Lincolnshire; Corn Miller; Living at Handsworth, Sheffield, Yorkshire [1881C] The age in 1881 is inconsistent and suggests a different year of birth about c.1837 - this is probably wrong. In 1891: Aged 51, born Saxilby, Lincolnshire; Corn Miller; Living at "The Terrace", Beighton, Derbyshire [1891C] In 1901: Aged 60, born Saxilby, Lincolnshire; Corn Miller; Living at "The Laurels", Beighton, Derbyshire [1901C] Birth references show a promising reference for Oct-Dec 1840 in the Gainsborough district of Lincolnshire, however this is for Joseph Glover <<106>>. "... Joseph had the mill at Halfway and he worked at his cousin Joey's mill at Beighton ..." [bedgreave doc] Lived in Main Street, Woodhouse, Handsworth, York, England in 1881 [1881C] Lived on "The Terrace", Beighton in 1891 [1891C] Wife \Elizabeth ____:c1850\, born c1850, Woodhouse, Yorkshire [1871C][1901C] Elizabeth in 1871: Aged 30, born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; Married to Joseph; Living at Low Hill (Bow Hill?), Handsworth/Woodhouse, Sheffield, Yorkshire [1871C] Elizabeth in 1881: Aged 41, born Handsworth, Yorkshire; Living at Handsworth, Sheffield, Yorkshire [1881C] Elizabeth in 1901: Aged 61, born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; Corn Miller; Living at "The Laurels", Beighton, Derbyshire [1901C] Children \Mary Elizabeth Glover:c1866\, born c1866, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1871C][1881C] Mary in 1871: Aged 5, born Handsworth, Yorkshire; Living at Low Hill (Bow Hill?), Handsworth/Woodhouse, Sheffield, Yorkshire [1871C] Mary in 1881: Aged 15, born Handsworth, Yorkshire; Living at Handsworth, Sheffield, Yorkshire [1881C] Mary in 1901: Aged 35, born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; Living at "The Laurels", Beighton, Derbyshire [1901C] \William Searbro Glover:c1871\, born c1871 in Woodhouse, Yorkshire [1871C][1891C][1901C] William in 1871: Aged 4 months, born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; Living at Low Hill (Bow Hill?), Handsworth/Woodhouse, Sheffield, Yorkshire [1871C] William in 1881: Aged 10, born Handsworth, Yorkshire; Living at Handsworth, Sheffield, Yorkshire [1881C] William in 1891: Aged 20, born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; Corn Millers Assistant; Living at "The Terrace", Beighton, Derbyshire [1891C] He was a "Corn Millers Asst" - assistant to father Joseph - in 1891 [1891C] William in 1901: Aged 35, born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; Living at "The Laurels", Beighton, Derbyshire [1901C] \Emily Ann Glover:c1874\, born c1874 in Handsworth, Yorkshire [1881C] or Woodhouse, Yorkshire [1891C] Emily in 1881: Aged 7, born Handsworth, Yorkshire; Living at Handsworth, Sheffield, Yorkshire [1881C] Emily in 1891: Aged 17, born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; Living at "The Terrace", Beighton, Derbyshire [1891C] \Clara Ellen Glover:c1876\, born c1876, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1881C] Clara in 1881: Aged 5, born Handsworth, Yorkshire; Living at Handsworth, Sheffield, Yorkshire [1881C] \Alice Glover:c1887\, born c.1887, Handsworth, York, England [1881C] Alice in 1881: Aged 4, born Handsworth, Yorkshire; Living at Handsworth, Sheffield, Yorkshire [1881C] Alice in 1901: Aged 24, born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; Living at "The Laurels", Beighton, Derbyshire [1901C] Aunt (and visitor in 1881) \Fanny Linley:c1821\, born c1821, Woodhouse/Handsworth, Yorkshire [1881C][1891C][1901C] Fanny in 1881: Aunt; Widow; Aged 60, born Handsworth, Yorkshire; Living at Handsworth, Sheffield, Yorkshire [1881C] Fanny in 1891: Aunt; Widow; Aged 70, born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; Living at "The Terrace", Beighton, Derbyshire [1891C] Fanny in 1901: Sister in Law; Widow; Aged 80, born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; Living at "The Laurels", Beighton, Derbyshire [1901C] Was Fanny the sister of Williamsons mother or father? Was she born a Linley, or did she marry one? Also recorded in 1901 are two grandsons: \George G Green:c1898\ - In 1901: Aged 3, born Roseland, Derbyshire; Resident at "The Laurels", Beighton, Derbyshire [1901C] \Joseph G Green:c1901\ - In 1901: Aged 3 months, born Roseland, Derbyshire; Resident at "The Laurels", Beighton, Derbyshire [1901C] If these are Josephs grandsons, who are their parents? Did Mary, Emily, Clara or Alice marry a Mr Green? \Frank Glover\ Notes: Williamson Glovers <80> and Eleanor Oates <81> marriage certificate: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1853 Marriage solumnized at the Parish Church in the parish of Worksop in the County of Nottingham No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 158 Jan 2 Williamson Glover 25 Bachelor Miller Worksop George Glover Farmer Eleanor Oates 21 Spinster - Worksop George Oates Woodman Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church by or after banns by me (sig) J.Appleton This Marriage in the was solumnized (sig) Williamson Glover Presence (sig) Geo Wilson between us (sig) Eleanor Oates of us (sig) Mary Oates ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Williamson Glovers <80> death certificate: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Worksop 1896 DEATH in the Sub-district of Anston in the County of York. No. When/Where Born Name Sex Age Occupation Cause of death Informant When Reg. Registar 224 Thirty First March 1896 Williamson Male 67 Miller Paralysis George Glover First April James Alley(?) Bedgreave Wales* RD Glover years Journeyman 3 months Son 1896 Registar Exhaustion Present at the Death Certified by Bedgreave Wales* J Fairbrother * [ this is Wales, Yorkshire, not Welsh Wales! :o) ] --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IGI: WILLIAM GLOVER Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 04 MAY 1828 Willingham By Stow, Lincoln, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: GEORGE GLOVER Mother: MARY Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C033771 1562 - 1812 0436005 Film 6908112 Film Sheet: 00 1841 census: Civil parish: Saxelby Hundred: Lawress County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address: Saxilby Source information: HO107/643/10 Registration district: Lincoln Sub-registration district: Lincoln North East ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Folio: 5 Page: 2 (click to see others on page) Line number: 1 GSU Number: 438768 Name MF Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Glover M 45 Farmer Y abt 1796 George Glover <106> Mary Glover F 42 Y abt 1799 Mary Page <107> John Glover M 21 Y abt 1820 Sarah Glover F 19 Y abt 1822 Theodocia Glover F 15 Y abt 1826 Williamson Glover M 13 Y abt 1828 Williamson Glover <80> George Glover M 10 Y abt 1831 Mary Glover F 7 Y abt 1834 Jane Glover F 5 Y abt 1836 Ann Glover F 3 Y abt 1838 Joseph Glover M 5 months Y abt 1841 Edward Houghilby M 22 Ag Lab Y abt 1819 Thomas Smith M 20 Ag Lab Y abt 1821 James Rowson M 15 Ag Lab Y abt 1826 Jane Cox F 18 F.S Y abt 1823 1851 census: Township: Bradford Address: Church Road, Worksop Mill Civil parish: Radford (Bradford?) County/Island: Nottinghamshire Source information: HO107/2122 Registration district: Worksop Sub-registration district: Worksop ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Folio: 159 Page: 24 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 105 GSU Number: 87752 Name MF Relation Mar Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis Skelton M Head Mar 65 Miller Master empl men Notts, S Leverton abt 1786 Sarah Skelton F Wife Mar 55 Employing 9 men Notts, N Leverton abt 1796 Francis Skelton M Son Un 24 Millers _________ Notts, Worksop abt 1822 Philip Skelton M Son Un 22 Drapers(?) ass[istant] Notts, Worksop abt 1829 Charlotte Skelton F Daur Un 20 - Notts, Worksop abt 1831 Jane Emshall F Serv Mar 50 assistant servant Notts, Jamston abt 1801 Elizabeth Lant F Serv M 34 House servant Notts, Retford abt 1817 Ellen Oates F Serv U 19 House servant Notts, Worksop abt 1832 Eleanor Oates <81> William Nickelson M Serv U 21 Carrier & _arter Notts, Barnby Moor abt 1830 Williamson Glover M Serv U 22 Miller journeyman Lincolnshire, Saxelby abt 1829 Williamson Glover <80> Henry White M Serv U 25 Carrier & _arter Notts, Worksop abt 1826 John Clarke M Serv U 19 Carrier & _arter Notts, Aughton abt 1832 Charles Saxton M Serv 13 Errand Boy Notts, Worksop abt 1838 Note: Ellen Oates! In 1851, Eleanor Oates, Williamson's future wife, would be 19, same as Ellen is here. Ellen = Eleanor! Williamson <80> and Ellen (Eleanor) <81> probably met at Worksop Mill, and later married! 1861 Census (from http://www.familyhistoryonline.net/) : Sheffield District 1861 Name William GLOVER Age 33 Birth place Willingham, NTT Piece and Folio 3501/26F Name Eleanor GLOVER Age 29 Birth place Worksop, NTT Piece and Folio 3501/26F Copyright Trustees of Sheffield and District Family History Society 1871 census: Township: Sheffield Municipal Borough: Sheffield Municipal Ward: St Peter Parliamentary Boro: Sheffield Town: Sheffield Local Board: Sheffield Ecclesiastical District: St Mary Address: 16 St Mary's Road Name Rel. M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace Williamson Glover Head marr 43 Corn Miller Journeyman Lincolnshire Willingham Eleanor Glover Wife marr 39 (37?) Notts Worksop Mary Eliz'th Glover daur 13 Notts Worksop Williamson Glover son 9 Scholar Derbyshire Chesterfield Annie Glover daur 7 Scholar Derbyshire Chesterfield Joseph Oates Glover son 3 Yorkshire Masbro Sarah Glover daur 3 weeks Yorkshire Sheffield Source information: PRO Reference RG10/4685 Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: South Sheffield ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Folio: 70 Page: 28 Household schedule number: 142 1881 Census: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability William GLOVER Head M Male 53 Willingham, Lincoln, England Corn Miller Eleanor GLOVER Wife M Female 49 South Lodge, Nottingham, England Corn Miller Wife Williamson GLOVER Son U Male 19 Brampton Chesterfield Corn Miller Annie GLOVER Daur U Female 17 Brampton Chesterfield Pupil Teacher (School) Joseph GLOVER Son Male 13 Masbro, York, England Scholar Sarah GLOVER Daur Female 10 Sheffield, York, England Scholar George GLOVER Son Male 7 Beighton, Derby, England Scholar Source Information: Dwelling Manvers Rd Census Place Beighton, Derby, England Family History Library Film 1342129 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4670 / 31 Page Number 56 1891 Census: Glover, Williamson Relationship: Head County: Yorkshire Age: 63 Civil Parish: Wales Gender: Male ED: 4 Where Born: Lincolnshire, Saxilby Eccl. Parish: Treeton St Helens Piece: RG12/2646 Town: Wales Folio: 89 Page: 31 Civil parish: Wales Town: Wales Rural sanitary district: Worksop Parliamentary division: Doncaster Ecclesiastical parish: St Helen, Treeton Administrative county: Yorkshire Page 31 Schedule 165 or 173 : Bedgreave Name Relation M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace Mary E. Dawson Head W 33 Miller Worksop, Nottinghamshire Edwin G. Dawson Son 12 Scholar Bedgreave, Yorkshire Eleanor E. Dawson Daur 10 Scholar Bedgreave, Yorkshire Francis B. Dawson Son 8 Scholar Bedgreave, Yorkshire Charles Walker Serv S 18 Carter Killamarsh, Derbyshire William Wycherley Boarder S 21 Carpenter Shrewsbury, Salop Schedule 164 or 174 : Bedgreave Name Relation M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace Williamson Glover Head M 63 Miller Saxilby, Lincolnshire Eleanor Glover Wife M 59 South Lodge, Worksop, Notts Sarah Glover Daur S 20 Sheffield, Yorkshire George Glover Son S 17 Engineers Clerk Bedgreave, Yorkshire Williamson Glovers <56> father was Williamson Glover <80> who lived 1828-1896. His mother was Eleanor Oates <81>, living 1832-1919. Bedgreave document : "Williamson Glover and Eleanor are recorded as corn millers in the village of Beighton at the 1881 census (See fig 8). Williamson came from a family of millers. Brother Joseph had the mill at Halfway and he worked at his cousin Joey's mill at Beighton. This mill stood near the Railway Inn on Rotherham Road and caught fire in 1897. They had 8 children. [...]" Described as a Corn Miller Journeyman on Williamson Glovers <56> birth certificate, 1861. 1837online.com marriage search for Williamson Glover and Eleanor Oates (16/10/2004) : *** Dec 1857 and previous not searched *** Mar 1850 -- Jun 1850 -- Sep 1850 -- Dec 1850 -- Mar 1851 -- Jun 1851 -- Sep 1851 -- Dec 1851 -- *** Mar 1852 to Dec 1852 not searched *** Mar 1853 OATES, Eleanor, Worksop, [79]b/4[79] (probably 7b/49, but not sure) GLOVER, Williamson, Worksop, 7b/[4_]9 ----------> Yes, 7b/49 Jun 1853 -- Sep 1853 -- Dec 1853 ???????????????????????????????? (not readable) Mar 1854 -- Jun 1854 -- Sep 1854 ???????????????????????????????? (page badly ordered) Dec 1854 -- Mar 1855 NO OPTION Jun 1855 -- Sep 1855 -- Dec 1855 -- Mar 1856 -- Jun 1856 -- Sep 1856 NO OPTION Dec 1856 -- Mar 1857 -- *** Jun 1857 onwards not searched *** GRO marriage index: Quarter: Mar 1853 Grooms Name: Williamson Glover <80> Brides Name: Eleanor Oates <81> District: Worksop Vol/Page: 7b/49 Researched: 16/10/2004, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 16/10/2004. Received 23/10/2004. 1837online.com deaths search for Williamson Glover (23/10/2003) : Mar 1896 GLO/1 several William's, none 68 yrs old Jun 1896 GLO/1 GLOVER, Williamson, 67, Worksop, 7b/23 **************** GRO death index: Quarter: Jun 1896 Name: Williamson Glover Age/DOB: 67 District: Worksop Vol/Page: 7b/23 Researched: 23/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 27/10/2003. Received 05/11/2003. Siblings in 1851 - with father George <106> : Civil parish: Thorney County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address: Castle Farm Registration district: Newark Sub-registration district: North Collingham ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 3 Name Relationship M.S. Age EstBYear Gender Occupation Birth City George Glover Head Mar 54 c1797 M Farmer of 170 employing 1 lad Linc Willingham Mary Glover Wife Mar 52 c1799 F Farmers Wife Linc Tealby Theodosia Glover Daur U 24* c1827 F Farmers Daur Linc Willingham George Glover Son U 20 c1831 M Farmers Son Linc Saxilby Ann Glover Daur U 18 c1833 F - Linc Saxilby George Glover Nephew U 16 c1835 M Farmers ????????????? Linc Willingham Jane Pilsel Serv U 16 c1835 F House ??????? Notts Parlton Richard Harrison Serv U 20 c1831 M House ??????? Linc Saxilby James Harrison Serv U 18 c1833 M House ??????? Linc Saxilby John Hempsall Serv U 14 c1837 M House ??????? Linc Saxilby * = I think Theodosia is in the 1851 census twice, also in with brother John. Siblings in 1851 - with brother John <<80>> : Civil parish: Saxilby County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address: Top of Town Registration district: Lincoln Sub-registration district: Lincoln North ED, institution, or vessel: 35 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 153 Name Relationship M.S. Age EstBYear Gender Occupation Birth City John Glover Head U 31 c1820 M Farmer of 217 acres employing 5 men Linc___ Wickenby Sarah Glover Sister U 20 c1831 F Housekeeper Linc Willingham Theodosia Glover Sister U 15* c1836 F Farmers Daur (Visitor) Linc Willingham Jane Glover Sister U 15 c1836 F Scholar Linc Saxilby Joseph Glover Brother U 10 c1841 M Scholar Linc Saxilby Anne Vickers Serv U 22 c1829 F House Serv Notts Canton John Hardy Serv U 23 c1828 M Farm Serv Notts Thorney William Jugg Serv U 18 c1833 M Farm Serv Linc___ SkellingHarpe(?) George Hurst Serv U 15 c1836 M Farm Serv Linc Saxilby * = I think Theodosia's age here is a mistake, either by John or the census taker. I also think she is in the 1851 census twice, also in with father George. Details of brother Joseph Glover in 1871: Address: Low Hill (Bow Hill?) Civil parish: Handsworth Town: Woodhouse County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: Handsworth ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 11 Name Relation Marr Age MF Occupation WhereBorn Joseph Glover Head Mar 29 M Grocer Lincoln Saxilby Elizabeth Glover Wife Mar 30 F - Yorks Woodhouse Mary Eliz'th Glover D'r Unm 5 F - Yorks Handsworth Wm Searbro Glover Son Unm 4m M - Yorks Woodhouse James Brookes Servant Unmar 39 M Grocers Assistant Yorks Barnsley Martha Larwack Servant Unmar 17 F Domestic servant Yorks Handsworth Jane Glover Niece Unmar 12 F - Yorks Hands'th Woodhouse Details of brother Joseph Glover in 1881: Household: Name Relation M.Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Joseph GLOVER Head M Male 44 Saxilby, Lincoln, England Corn Miller Elizabeth GLOVER Wife M Female 41 Handsworth, York, England Mary Elizabeth GLOVER Daur U Female 15 Handsworth, York, England Wm.Searbro GLOVER Son Male 10 Handsworth, York, England Emily Ann GLOVER Daur Female 7 Handsworth, York, England Clara Ellen GLOVER Daur Female 5 Handsworth, York, England Alice GLOVER Daur Female 4 Handsworth, York, England Fanny LINLEY Visitor W Female 60 Handsworth, York, England Visitor Sarah Hannah GODDARD Serv U Female 19 Sheffield, York, England Domestic Servant Source Information: Dwelling Main Street Woodhouse Census Place Handsworth, York, England Family History Library Film 1342129 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4669 / 63 Page Number 8 Details of brother Joseph Glover in 1891: Civil parish: Beighton Town/Village: Beighton Rural sanitary district: Rotherham Parliamentary borough/division: N E Derbyshire Ecclesiastical parish/district: St Mary Address: The Terrace Joseph Glover, Head, M, male, 51, Corn Miller , Lincs Saxilby Emily Glover, Dau, S, female, 17, , Yorks Woodhouse William S Glover, Son, S, male, 20, Corn Millers Asst , Yorks Woodhouse Fanny Linley, Aunt, Wid, female, 70, , Yorks Woodhouse Adelaide Littlewood, Servt, S, female, 18, Dom [ie. domestic], Derby West Handley Details of brother Joseph Glover in 1901: Street Address: The Laurels Civil parish: Beighton Ecclesiastical parish: Beighton St Mary Town: Beighton County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Registration district: Chesterfield Sub-registration district: Eckington ED, institution, or vessel: 28 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 102 Name Relation Marr Age MF Occupation Employer/Worker At Home? WhereBorn Joseph Glover Head M 60 M Corn Miller Employer At Home Lincs Saxilby Elizabeth Glover Wife M 61 F - - - Yorks Woodhouse Mary E Glover Daur M 35 F - - - Yorks Woodhouse Alice Glover Daur S 24 F - - - Yorks Woodhouse Fanny Linley S. in Law Wid 80 F - - - Yorks Woodhouse George G Green Gr'son* S 3 M - - - Derby Roseland Joseph G Green Gr'son* S 3m M - - - Derby Roseland Arthur Hutchinson Brdr** S 16 M Apprentice + Corn Miller Wkr - Yorks Easingwolde Alice Marsden Servant S 13 F Nurse Domestic - - Derby Whatstand wall Eliza Seeke Servant S 18 F Servant Domestic - - Derby Langwith * Gr'son = Grandson ** Brdr = Boarder Search for Joseph Glover <<80>> birth in 1837-1841 (21/10/2004) on 1837online : Dec 1837 GLOVER, Joseph, Oxford, 16/76 Mar 1838 GLOVER, Joseph, Barrow on Soar, 15/40 Jun 1838 GLOVER, Joseph, Walsall, 17/220 GLOVER, Joseph, Newcastle, 17/96 Sep 1838 GLOVER, Joseph, Stockport, 19/228 GLOVER, Joseph, Worcester, 18/477 GLOVER, Joseph, Aston, 16/154 GLOVER, Joseph, Market Harboro', 15/139 Dec 1838 GLOVER, Joseph, Northleach, 11/331 Mar 1839 GLOVER, Joseph, [SL][a OR er OR ei][li_]don, XVII, [35][27]11 GLOVER, Joseph, Leicester, XV/111 GLOVER, Joseph Glover, Salford, XV/7[17][6_] Jun 1839 GLOVER, Joseph, Liverpool, XX/429 Sep 1839 GLOVER, Joseph, Bedford, VI/40 GLOVER, Joseph, W.[D_]erby, 8[46]9 Dec 1839 GLOVER, Joseph, Wigan, [17][35]8 (I'd say 758) Mar 1840 GLOVER, Joseph, Ashby de la Zouch, XV/13 Jun 1840 GLOVER, Joseph, Ormskirk, XXI/[35][35]8 Sep 1840 -- Dec 1840 GLOVER, Joseph, Gainsbro', X[I?]V/325 ******************** GLOVER, Joseph, Stoke on Trent, XVII/[1?]79 Mar 1841 GLOVER, Joseph Glover, Gu.H[au]n.Sq., I/23 Jun 1841 GLOVER, Joseph, Bradford, XXIII/2[06]6 (probably 206) Dec 1841 GLOVER, Joseph, Stourbridge, XVIII/46[268_] Looked further at these references on 07/11/2004, checking which of these districts are in Lincolnshire. Only one of them is: Gainsborough. From http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/REG/lin.htm#gain: --- Gainsborough Created 1st July 1837. Mainly in Lincolnshire, but included parts of Nottinghamshire. Sub-districts : Gainsborough; Marton; Misterton; Owston; Scotter; Willingham GRO volumes : XIV (1837-51); 7a (1852-1930). Blyborough, Blyton cum Wharton, Brampton, Coates, Corringham, East Ferry, East Stockwith, Fenton, Fillingham, Gainsborough, Gate Burton, Glentworth, Grayingham, Greenhill and Redhill, Hardwick, Harpswell, Haxey, Heapham, Hemswell, Kettlethorpe, Kexby, Knaith, Laughton, Lea, Marton, Morton, Newton on Trent, Northorpe, Owston, Owston Ferry, Pilham Scotter, Scotton, Southorpe, Springhtorpe, Stow, Sturton by Stow, Thonock, Torksey, Upton, Walkerith, West Butterwick, Wildsworth, Willingham, Willoughton. Registers now divided between Lincolnshire, East Retford and North Lincolnshire districts. --- So the volume is probably XIV (out of the choice of XV or XIV). Note also the presence of Willingham in the Gainsborough district! :o) In 1901, wife Eleanor <81> is stated as a widow, confirming Williamson's <80> death before then. [1901C] GRO birth index: Quarter: Dec 1840 Name: Joseph Glover <<80>> District: Gainsbro' Vol/Page: XIV/325 Researched: 21/10/2004, 07/11/2004, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 09/11/2004 Search of IGI for children of George Glover <106> and Mary <107> in 1837-1841 in Lincolnshire [IGI] (07/11/2004) : Name Christened Father Mother Confirmed Relevant --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Glover 14 NOV 1819, Wickenby, Lincoln, England GEORGE GLOVER MARY Probably Sarah Glover 23 DEC 1821, Willingham By Stow, Lincoln, England GEORGE GLOVER MARY Yes Elizabeth Glover 14 NOV 1823, Willingham By Stow, Lincoln, England GEORGE GLOVER MARY Yes Theodosia Glover 26 FEB 1826, Willingham By Stow, Lincoln, England GEORGE GLOVER MARY Yes William Glover 04 MAY 1828, Willingham By Stow, Lincoln, England GEORGE GLOVER MARY Yes Mary Glover 25 AUG 1833, Saxilby, Lincoln, England GEORGE GLOVER MARY Yes Jane Glover 12 MAY 1835, Saxilby, Lincoln, England GEORGE GLOVER MARY Yes Anne Glover 12 AUG 1837, Saxelby, , Lincoln, England George Glover Mary Yes William Glover (1828) is none other than our friend Williamson Glover. Sarah Glover (1821), Elizabath Glover (1823) and Theodosia Glover (1826) match data from Anne Bowen. Anne Glover (1837) _may_ be the same Anne Glover born 1835 in Anne Bowens information. John Glover (1819) and Jane Glover (1835) are not in Anne Bowens data (as of 06/11/2004). Note that John Glover was christened in Wickenby, the same place as parents George Glover <106> and Mary <107> were married, in July 1819 only 4-5 months before John's christening. Note also what appear to be shifts from Wickenby to Willingham in 1819-1821, and from Willingham to Saxilby in 1828-1833. "Saxilby with Ingleby" is in the registration district of Lincoln, according to http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/REG/lin.htm#linc, as also is Wickenby. /=============================================================================/ ID: <81> Status: D Name: \Eleanor Oates\ Gender: -5 Gen: F Position: 000101 Born: c1832, South Lodge, Worksop, Nottinghamshire [1881C][1891C] 1832 [bedgreave doc] 1881 and 1891 censuses state birthplace as 'South Lodge, Worksop, Nottinghamshire' [1881C][1891C] 1851 and 1901 censuses state simply 'Worksop, Nottinghamshire' [1851C][1901C] c1832, Wolbeck, Nottinghamshire [1911C], stated to be a widow - filled in by grandson Frank Dawson <<56>> Married: 02/01/1853, Worksop, Nottinghamshire Died: 25/12/1919, Bedgreave Mill, Wales, Yorkshire [death cert] 1919 [bedgreave doc] Partner: <80> Child: <56> Father: <82> Mother: <83> Sibling: \George Oates:1824\, born 1824, Nottinghamshire Born 1824 [bedgreave doc] In 1841: Aged 17, born in Nottinghamshire; living at South Lodge, Worksop, Nottinghamshire [1841C] \Elizabeth Oates:1826\, born 1826, Nottinghamshire Born 1826 [bedgreave doc] In 1841: Aged 15, born in Nottinghamshire; living at South Lodge, Worksop, Nottinghamshire [1841C] \John Oates:1828\, born 1828, Nottinghamshire Born 1828 [bedgreave doc] In 1841: Aged 13, born in Nottinghamshire; living at South Lodge, Worksop, Nottinghamshire [1841C] \Anne Oates:1830\, born 1830, Nottinghamshire Born 1830 [bedgreave doc] In 1841: Aged 10, born in Nottinghamshire; living at South Lodge, Worksop, Nottinghamshire [1841C] \Mary Oates:1833\, born 1833, Nottinghamshire Born 1833, married Isaac Fairburn [bedgreave doc] In 1841: Aged 7, born in Nottinghamshire; living at South Lodge, Worksop, Nottinghamshire [1841C] \William Oates:1836\, born 1836, Nottinghamshire Born 1836 [bedgreave doc] In 1841: Aged 5, born in Nottinghamshire; living at South Lodge, Worksop, Nottinghamshire [1841C] \Martha Oates:1841\, born 1841 Born 1841, married Mr Baxter [bedgreave doc] Married \___ Baxter:c1841\ Notes: Williamson Glovers <80> and Eleanor Oates <81> marriage certificate: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1853 Marriage solumnized at the Parish Church in the parish of Worksop in the County of Nottingham No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 158 Jan 2 Williamson Glover 25 Bachelor Miller Worksop George Glover Farmer Eleanor Oates 21 Spinster - Worksop George Oates Woodman Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church by or after banns by me (sig) J.Appleton This Marriage in the was solumnized (sig) Williamson Glover Presence (sig) Geo Wilson between us (sig) Eleanor Oates of us (sig) Mary Oates ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eleanor Glovers <81> death certificate: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Worksop 1919 DEATH in the Sub-district of Anston in the County of Yorks (W.R.). No. When/Where Born Name Sex Age Occupation Cause of death Informant When Reg. Registar 137 Twenty Fifth December 1919 Eleanor Female 87 Widow of (1) Senile Decay G.Glover Twenty Ninth Claude Airey Bedgreave Mill Glover years Williamson Certified by Son December 1919 Registar Wales RD Glover J.Fairbrother Present at the Death Miller Bedgreave Mill Wales --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Wales, Yorkshire, not Welsh Wales] Williamson Glovers <56> father was Williamson Glover <80> who lived 1828-1896. His mother was Eleanor Oates <81>, living 1832-1919. 1837online.com marriage search for Williamson Glover and Eleanor Oates (16/10/2004) : *** Dec 1857 and previous not searched *** Mar 1850 -- Jun 1850 -- Sep 1850 -- Dec 1850 -- Mar 1851 -- Jun 1851 -- Sep 1851 -- Dec 1851 -- *** Mar 1852 to Dec 1852 not searched *** Mar 1853 OATES, Eleanor, Worksop, [79]b/4[79] (probably 7b/49, but not sure) GLOVER, Williamson, Worksop, 7b/[4_]9 ----------> Yes, 7b/49 Jun 1853 -- Sep 1853 -- Dec 1853 ???????????????????????????????? (not readable) Mar 1854 -- Jun 1854 -- Sep 1854 ???????????????????????????????? (page badly ordered) Dec 1854 -- Mar 1855 NO OPTION Jun 1855 -- Sep 1855 -- Dec 1855 -- Mar 1856 -- Jun 1856 -- Sep 1856 NO OPTION Dec 1856 -- Mar 1857 -- *** Jun 1857 onwards not searched *** GRO marriage index: Quarter: Mar 1853 Grooms Name: Williamson Glover <80> Brides Name: Eleanor Oates <81> District: Worksop Vol/Page: 7b/49 Researched: 16/10/2004, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 16/10/2004. Received 23/10/2004. 1841 census: Civil parish: Worksop Hundred: Bassetlaw (Hatfield Division) County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: South Lodge Source information: HO107/852/9 Registration district: Worksop Sub-registration district: Worksop ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Folio: 26 Page: 2 Line number: 7 GSU Number: 438902 Name MF Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Oates M 35-39 Woodman Y abt 1804 George Oates <82> Elizabeth Oates F 35-39 Y abt 1804 Elizabeth Smith <83> George Oates M 17 Y abt 1824 Elizabeth Oates F 15 Y abt 1826 John Oates M 13 Y abt 1828 Ann Oates F 10 Y abt 1831 Eleanor Oates F 9 Y abt 1832 Eleanor Oates <81> Mary Oates F 7 Y abt 1834 William Oates M 5 Y abt 1836 1851 census: Township: Bradford Address: Church Road, Worksop Mill Civil parish: Radford (Bradford?) County/Island: Nottinghamshire Source information: HO107/2122 Registration district: Worksop Sub-registration district: Worksop ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Folio: 159 Page: 24 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 105 GSU Number: 87752 Name MF Relation Mar Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis Skelton M Head Mar 65 Miller Master empl men Notts, S Leverton abt 1786 Sarah Skelton F Wife Mar 55 Employing 9 men Notts, N Leverton abt 1796 Francis Skelton M Son Un 24 Millers _________ Notts, Worksop abt 1822 Philip Skelton M Son Un 22 Drapers(?) ass[istant] Notts, Worksop abt 1829 Charlotte Skelton F Daur Un 20 - Notts, Worksop abt 1831 Jane Emshall F Serv Mar 50 assistant servant Notts, Jamston abt 1801 Elizabeth Lant F Serv M 34 House servant Notts, Retford abt 1817 Ellen Oates F Serv U 19 House servant Notts, Worksop abt 1832 Eleanor Oates <81> William Nickelson M Serv U 21 Carrier & _arter Notts, Barnby Moor abt 1830 Williamson Glover M Serv U 22 Miller journeyman Lincolnshire, Saxelby abt 1829 Williamson Glover <80> Henry White M Serv U 25 Carrier & _arter Notts, Worksop abt 1826 John Clarke M Serv U 19 Carrier & _arter Notts, Aughton abt 1832 Charles Saxton M Serv 13 Errand Boy Notts, Worksop abt 1838 Note: Ellen Oates! In 1851, Eleanor Oates, Williamson's future wife, would be 19, same as Ellen is here. Ellen = Eleanor! Williamson <80> and Ellen (Eleanor) <81> probably met at Worksop Mill, and later married! 1871 census: Township: Sheffield Municipal Borough: Sheffield Municipal Ward: St Peter Parliamentary Boro: Sheffield Town: Sheffield Local Board: Sheffield Ecclesiastical District: St Mary Address: 16 St Mary's Road Name Rel. M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace Williamson Glover Head marr 43 Corn Miller Journeyman Lincolnshire Willingham Eleanor Glover Wife marr 39 (37?) Notts Worksop Mary Eliz'th Glover daur 13 Notts Worksop Williamson Glover son 9 Scholar Derbyshire Chesterfield Annie Glover daur 7 Scholar Derbyshire Chesterfield Joseph Oates Glover son 3 Yorkshire Masbro Sarah Glover daur 3 weeks Yorkshire Sheffield Source information: PRO Reference RG10/4685 Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: South Sheffield ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Folio: 70 Page: 28 Household schedule number: 142 1881 Census: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability William GLOVER Head M Male 53 Willingham, Lincoln, England Corn Miller Eleanor GLOVER Wife M Female 49 South Lodge, Nottingham, England Corn Miller Wife Williamson GLOVER Son U Male 19 Brampton Chesterfield Corn Miller Annie GLOVER Daur U Female 17 Brampton Chesterfield Pupil Teacher (School) Joseph GLOVER Son Male 13 Masbro, York, England Scholar Sarah GLOVER Daur Female 10 Sheffield, York, England Scholar George GLOVER Son Male 7 Beighton, Derby, England Scholar Source Information: Dwelling Manvers Rd Census Place Beighton, Derby, England Family History Library Film 1342129 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4670 / 31 Page Number 56 1891 Census: Glover, Williamson Relationship: Head County: Yorkshire Age: 63 Civil Parish: Wales Gender: Male ED: 4 Where Born: Lincolnshire, Saxilby Eccl. Parish: Treeton St Helens Piece: RG12/2646 Town: Wales Folio: 89 Page: 31 Civil parish: Wales Town: Wales Rural sanitary district: Worksop Parliamentary division: Doncaster Ecclesiastical parish: St Helen, Treeton Administrative county: Yorkshire Page 31 Schedule 165 or 173 : Bedgreave Name Relation M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace Mary E. Dawson Head W 33 Miller Worksop, Nottinghamshire Edwin G. Dawson Son 12 Scholar Bedgreave, Yorkshire Eleanor E. Dawson Daur 10 Scholar Bedgreave, Yorkshire Francis B. Dawson Son 8 Scholar Bedgreave, Yorkshire Charles Walker Serv S 18 Carter Killamarsh, Derbyshire William Wycherley Boarder S 21 Carpenter Shrewsbury, Salop Schedule 164 or 174 : Bedgreave Name Relation M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace Williamson Glover Head M 63 Miller Saxilby, Lincolnshire Eleanor Glover Wife M 59 South Lodge, Worksop, Notts Sarah Glover Daur S 20 Sheffield, Yorkshire George Glover Son S 17 Engineers Clerk Bedgreave, Yorkshire 1901 census: Street address: Bedgreave Mill Ho Civil parish: Wales Ecclesiastical parish: Wales St John Town: Waleswood County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Worksop Sub-registration district: Anston ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 168 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3128; Folio: 89; Page: 34. Name Relation M.Status Age Occupation Birthplace Deaf/Dumb/Blind/Imbecile EstBYear Mary E Dawson Head Wid 43 Miller + farmer Notts Worksop / about 1858 Edwin G Dawson Son S 22 Miller fRelson Yorks Bedgreave about 1879 Eleanor E Dawson Daur S 20 Miller Yorks Bedgreave about 1881 Frances B Dawson Son S 18 Miller fRelson Yorks Bedgreave about 1883 Eleanor Glover Mother Wid 69 Notts Worksop / about 1832 Sarah Stafford Sister M 30 Yorks Sheffield about 1871 George Glover Bro. S 27 Railway Engine Stoker Yorks Bedgreave about 1874 James G Stafford Nephew S 1 Derbys New Mills about 1900 1911 Census - Francis (Frank) Dawson, grandmother Eleanor Glover (Eleanor Oates) --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN20254 RG78PN1213 RD427 SD3 ED7 SN227 Schedule Number: 227 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Nottinghamshire District: Worksop Subdistrict: Anston Enumeration District: 7 Parish: Wales -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis Dawson Head M 28 Single - - - - Miller (Corn) Employer - Yorkshire Wales c1883 Frank Dawson <<56>> Eleanor Glover Grandmother F 79 Widow - - - Nottinghamshire Wolbeck c1832 Eleanor Oates <81> George Glover Boarder M 37 Single - - - - Railway Engine Driver Worker - Yorkshire Wales c1874 <<56>> George Binns Boarder M 23 Single - - - - Millers Carter Worker - Yorkshire Aston c1888 Alice Julien Servant F 18 Single - - - - Servant (Domestic) Worker - Derbyshire Killamarsh c1893 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 10 Signature (sig) Francis Dawson Postal Address Bedgreave Mill, Wales, nr Sheffield --------------------------------------------------------- Search on 1837online.com deaths for Eleanor Glover (25/10/2003) : Mar 1919 GLO/1&2 -- Jun 1919 GLO/1 -- Sep 1919 GLO/1 -- Dec 1919 GLO/2 GLOVER, Eleanor, 87, Worksop, 7b/47 ******************** GRO death index: Quarter: Dec 1919 Name: Eleanor Glover (Oates) Age/DOB: 87 District: Worksop Vol/Page: 7b/47 Researched: 25/10/2003, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 27/10/2003. Received 05/11/2003. /=============================================================================/ ID: <82> Status: D Name: \George Oates\ Gender: M Gen: -6 Position: 0001010 Born: 1802 Married: ??? Died: ??? Partner: <83> Child: <81> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: George Oates <82> is recorded on the marriage certificate of Williamson Glovers <80> and Eleanor Oates <81> as being a Woodman by occupation. 1841 census: Civil parish: Worksop Hundred: Bassetlaw (Hatfield Division) County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: South Lodge Source information: HO107/852/9 Registration district: Worksop Sub-registration district: Worksop ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Folio: 26 Page: 2 Line number: 7 GSU Number: 438902 Name MF Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Oates M 35-39 Woodman Y abt 1804 George Oates <82> Elizabeth Oates F 35-39 Y abt 1804 Elizabeth Smith <83> George Oates M 17 Y abt 1824 Elizabeth Oates F 15 Y abt 1826 John Oates M 13 Y abt 1828 Ann Oates F 10 Y abt 1831 Eleanor Oates F 9 Y abt 1832 Eleanor Oates <81> Mary Oates F 7 Y abt 1834 William Oates M 5 Y abt 1836 VRI: ?? OATS, George Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 8 Apr 1802 Christening Date: 9 May 1802 Recorded in: Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Collection: BTs Father: George OATS Mother: Ann Source: FHL Film 504058 Dates: 1772 - 1812 ?? Other siblings: OATS, John Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 14 May 1797 Recorded in: Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Collection: BTs Father: George OATS Mother: Ann Source: FHL Film 504058 Dates: 1772 - 1812 OATS, Ann Christening Gender: Female Birth Date: 26 Sep 1799 Christening Date: 24 Nov 1799 Recorded in: Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Collection: BTs Father: George OATS Mother: Ann Source: FHL Film 504058 Dates: 1772 - 1812 /=============================================================================/ ID: <83> Status: D Name: \Elizabeth Smith\ Gender: F Gen: -6 Position: 0001011 Born: 1802 Married: ??? Died: ??? Partner: <82> Child: <59> Father: <84> Mother: <85> Sibling: ??? Notes: 1841 census: Civil parish: Worksop Hundred: Bassetlaw (Hatfield Division) County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: South Lodge Source information: HO107/852/9 Registration district: Worksop Sub-registration district: Worksop ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Folio: 26 Page: 2 Line number: 7 GSU Number: 438902 Name MF Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Oates M 35-39 Woodman Y abt 1804 George Oates <82> Elizabeth Oates F 35-39 Y abt 1804 Elizabeth Smith <83> George Oates M 17 Y abt 1824 Elizabeth Oates F 15 Y abt 1826 John Oates M 13 Y abt 1828 Ann Oates F 10 Y abt 1831 Eleanor Oates F 9 Y abt 1832 Eleanor Oates <81> Mary Oates F 7 Y abt 1834 William Oates M 5 Y abt 1836 /=============================================================================/ ID: <84> Status: D Name: \William Smith\ Gender: M Gen: -7 Position: 00010110 Born: ??? Married: ??? Died: ??? Partner: <85> Child: <83> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: /=============================================================================/ ID: <85> Status: D Name: \Elizabeth Lamb\ Gender: F Gen: -7 Position: 00010111 Born: 1770, ?Beckingham? Married: ??? Died: ??? Partner: <84> Child: <83> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: /=============================================================================/ ID: <86> Status: D Name: \Stephen Michell\ Gender: M Gen: -4 Position: 01010 Born: 13/02/1850, St Day, Cornwall [Greville, birth cert] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Married: About 1878 Penzance, , Cornwall, England [IGI] Died: 24/12/1931, Hayle, Cornwall [Greville] Partner: <87> Child: <32> Father: <88> Mother: <89> Sibling: (see list) _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \Jane Michell:c1840\ In 1841: Aged 2, born Cornwall; living in Market St, Market St, Cornwall [1841C] In 1851: Aged 11, born Gwennap, Cornwall; living in Scorrier Street, St Day, Cornwall; Attending school [1851C] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \Nanny Michell:c1841\ In 1841: Aged 7 months, born Cornwall; living in Market St, Market St, Cornwall [1841C] In 1851: Aged 10, born Gwennap, Cornwall; living in Scorrier Street, St Day, Cornwall; Attending school [1851C] \Theophilus Michell:c1843\ In 1851: Aged 8, born Gwennap, Cornwall; living in Scorrier Street, St Day, Cornwall; Attending school [1851C] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \Christian Kate Michell:c1845\ In 1851: Aged 6, called 'Kitty' in the census; born Gwennap, Cornwall; living in Scorrier Street, St Day, Cornwall; Attending school [1851C] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \Alice Michell:c1847\ In 1851: Aged 4; born Gwennap, Cornwall; living in Scorrier Street, St Day, Cornwall; Attending school [1851C] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \Thomas Michell:c1849\ [CK] In 1851: Aged 2; born Gwennap, Cornwall; living in Scorrier Street, St Day, Cornwall; Attending school [1851C] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Notes: GRO birth index: Quarter: Mar 1850 Name: Stephen Michell <86> District: Redruth Vol/Page: IX/264 Researched: 30/01/2005, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 19/02/2005. Received 04/03/2005. Note that the Redruth district is in Cornwall. No Stephen Michells were listed in either the June or September quarters of the GRO indexes, supporting mine (and Grevilles) version of the DOB of 13/02/1850, rather than the date provided by CK. This is borne out by the certificate which proves the date of 13/02/1850. Birth certificate of Stephen Michell <86> : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Redruth 1850 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Gwennap and Stithians in the County of Cornwall No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 490 Thirteenth February 1850 Stephen Boy Thomas Ann Michell M_____ Ann Michell Twenty Fifth ____ Williams St Day Gwennap Michell formerly Prout Tailor Mother February 1850 Registrar St Day Hwennap ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Alice P Michell Female Event(s): Birth: 1881 Penzance, , Cornwall, England Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: Stephen Michell Mother: Ann S Messages: Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter. Source Information: No source information is available. ((This matches the information on Alice Prout Michells birth certificate, 20/02/1881, 18 Cornwall Terrace, Penzance, which names her father as Stephen Michell and her mother as Annie Sophie Love.)) 1851 census: Parish: Gwennap Town: St Day Address: Scorrier(?) Street County/Island: Cornwall Source information: HO107/1914 Registration district: Redruth Sub-registration district: Gwennap ED, institution, or vessel: 2f Folio: 160 Page: 8 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 28 GSU Number: 221068 Name MF Relation Mar Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individal --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Michell M Head Mar 38 Merecix(?) Jailer (Master) employing 6 men + 16 women Kenwyn, Cornwall abt 1813 Thomas Michell <88> Ann Michell F Wife Mar 42 - St. Agnes, Cornwall abt 1809 Ann Prout <89> Jane Michell F Dau Un 11 Scholar Gwennap, Cornwall abt 1840 Jane Michell <<86>> Nanny Michell F Dau Un 10 Scholar Gwennap, Cornwall abt 1841 Theophilus Michell M Son Un 8 Scholar Gwennap, Cornwall abt 1843 Theophilus Michell <<86>> Kitty Michell F Dau Un 6 Scholar Gwennap, Cornwall abt 1845 Christian Kate Michell <<86>> Alice Michell F Dau Un 4 Scholar Gwennap, Cornwall abt 1847 Alice Michell <<86>> Thomas Michell M Son Un 2 In Home Gwennap, Cornwall abt 1849 Thomas Michell <<86>> Stephen Michell M Son Un 1 In Home Gwennap, Cornwall abt 1850 Stephen Michell <86> Eliz'th A Perry F Serv Un 15 House Servant Gwennap, Cornwall abt 1836 1881 census: Alice P. MICHELL Female Other Information: Birth Year 1881 Birthplace Penzance, Cornwall, England Age 1 m Occupation -- Marital Status -- Head of Household Stephen MICHELL Relation Daur Disability -- Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Stephen MICHELL Head M Male 31 St Day, Cornwall, England Accountant Corn Seed Etc (Clk) Ann S. MICHELL Wife M Female 27 Penzance, Cornwall, England Stephen H. MICHELL Son Male 1 Penzance, Cornwall, England Alice P. MICHELL Daur Female 1m Penzance, Cornwall, England Lucretia CHESTER Nurse M Female 46 Penzance, Cornwall, England Nurse Eliz.E. DAVEY Servant U Female 23 Gwennap, Cornwall, England General Servant Source Information: Dwelling Commercial Road Census Place Phillack, Cornwall, England Family History Library Film 1341562 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2337 / 33 Page Number 28 ((Why did Stephen and/or Ann have a nurse? Was Nurse Chester actually a babysitter?)) IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Stephen Michell Male Event(s): Birth: 1850 St Day, , Cornwall, England Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: Ann S Marriage: About 1878 Penzance, , Cornwall, England Messages: Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter. Source Information: No source information is available. 1891 Census: Civil parish: Phillack Urban Sanitary District: Phillack Ecclesiastical parish: St Elwyn County: Cornwall Street address: Commercial Rd Source information: RG12/1852 Registration district: Redruth Sub registration district: Phillack ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Folio: 26 Page: 15 Stephen Michell Head M 41 Accountant Cornwall St. Day Annie L.(S.?) Michell Wife M 39 -- Cornwall Penzance Stephen H. Michell Son 11 Scholar Cornwall Penzance Alice P. Michell Daur 10 Scholar Cornwall Penzance William L.(S?) Michell Son 9 Scholar Cornwall Hayle Thomas L.(S? J?) Michell Son 8 Scholar Cornwall Hayle Sidney L.(?) Michell Son 6 Scholar Cornwall Hayle Violet E.(?) Michell Daur 4 -- Cornwall Hayle Amelia Love Mother in Law Wid 63 Living on her means Cornwall Calstock Elizabeth Hic[kh]in Serv S 20 General Servant Domestic Cornwall Phillack 1911 Census - Stephen Michell, wife Annie Michell (nee Annie Love), son Arthur --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN14077 RG78PN839 RD300 SD4 ED21 SN295 Schedule Number: 295 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Cornwall District: Penzance Subdistrict: Penzance Enumeration District: 21 Parish: Penzance -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mary Callenso Head F 58 Single - - - - Penzance, Cornwall c1853 Stephen Michell Visitor M 61 Married - - - - Accountant & company secretary Commercial St Days, Cornwall c1850 <86> Annie Sophie Michell Visitor F 57 Married 32 7 7 - Penzance, Cornwall c1854 Annie Sophia Love <87> Arthur Davey Michell Visitor M 17 Single - - - - School Hayle, Cornwall c1894 <<32>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 6 Signature (sig) Mary Callenso Postal Address 4 South Terrace, Penzance, Cornwall --------------------------------------------------------- FreeBMD (06/11/2003) : Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Births Jun 1849 Michell Stephen Truro 9 337 Births Mar 1850 Michell Stephen Redruth 9 264 NEITHER of which is necessarily our Stephen Michell! Search for birth index on 1837online (30/01/2005): NB. This is in light of the date given by Greville in March 1850, and the alternative date in June 1850 given by Charlotte Ketterer. It would appear to favour the date in March. Mar 1850 MICHELL, Stephen Redruth IX/264 Jun 1850 -- Sep 1850 -- Redruth Created 1st July 1837. Sub-districts : Camborne; Gwennap; Illogan; Phillack; Redruth. GRO volumes : IX (1837-51); 5c (1852-1930). Camborne, East Phillack, Gwennap, Gwinear, Gwithian, Illogan, Phillack, Redruth, St. Sithian's, West Phillack. Registers now divided between Camborne-Redruth and Truro districts. 1841 census of the Michells before Stephens birth: Civil parish: Gwennap with St Day Hundred: Kerrier County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street address: Market St Source information: HO107/137/11 Registration district: Redruth Sub-registration district: Gwennap and Stithians ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Folio: 53 Page: 2 Line number: 3 GSU Number: 241260 Name MF Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thos Michell M 28 Tailor Y abt 1813 Thomas Michell <88> Nanny Michell F 30 Y abt 1811 Ann Prout <89> Jane Michell F 2 Y abt 1839 Nanny Michell F 7 months Y abt 1840 Eliza Bassett F 17 F.S Y abt 1824 May Stephens F 15 Tailoress Y abt 1826 _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ /=============================================================================/ ID: <87> Status: D Name: \Annie Sophia Love\ Gender: F Gen: -4 Position: 01011 Born: 06/11/1853, Penzance, Cornwall [Greville] [censuses] Married: About 1878 Penzance, , Cornwall, England [IGI] Died: 11/05/1932, Rushden, Northants [Greville] Partner: <86> Child: <32> Father: <96> Mother: <97> Sibling: \William J Love:c1861\, age 20 in 1881 (so born c1861), Civil Engineer Apprentice in 1881, born Penzance, Cornwall, England [1881C] Notes: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Annies predecessors (from Greville on GenesConnected) : Thomas Michell - ??? 1772 - 1845 | Thomas Michell - Ann Prout Henry Love - Amelia Davey 1813 - 1893 c1818 c1818 c1828 | | Stephen Michell ----------------- Annie Love 1850 - 1931 1853 - 1932 Thomas Michell 31/05/1772 (Cornwall) - 12/12/1845 Thomas Michell Henry Love 21/03/1813 (Cornwall) - 01/10/1893 c1818 (Penzance, Cornwall) Ann Prout Amelia Davey c1818 (Cornwall) c1828 (Calstock, Cornwall) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Alice P Michell Female Event(s): Birth: 1881 Penzance, , Cornwall, England Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: Stephen Michell Mother: Ann S Messages: Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter. Source Information: No source information is available. ((This matches the information on Alice Prout Michells birth certificate, 20/02/1881, 18 Cornwall Terrace, Penzance, which names her father as Stephen Michell and her mother as Annie Sophie Love.)) 1881 census: Alice P. MICHELL Female Other Information: Birth Year 1881 Birthplace Penzance, Cornwall, England Age 1 m Occupation -- Marital Status -- Head of Household Stephen MICHELL Relation Daur Disability -- Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Stephen MICHELL Head M Male 31 St Day, Cornwall, England Accountant Corn Seed Etc (Clk) Ann S. MICHELL Wife M Female 27 Penzance, Cornwall, England Stephen H. MICHELL Son Male 1 Penzance, Cornwall, England Alice P. MICHELL Daur Female 1m Penzance, Cornwall, England Lucretia CHESTER Nurse M Female 46 Penzance, Cornwall, England Nurse Eliz.E. DAVEY Servant U Female 23 Gwennap, Cornwall, England General Servant Source Information: Dwelling Commercial Road Census Place Phillack, Cornwall, England Family History Library Film 1341562 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2337 / 33 Page Number 28 ((Why did Stephen and/or Ann have a nurse? Was Nurse Chester actually a babysitter?)) 1881 census: Name Relation M.Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Henry LOVE Head M Male 63 Penzance, Cornwall, England Retired Master Mariner Lodging House Keeper Amelia LOVE Wife M Female 53 Calstock, Cornwall, England William J. LOVE Son U Male 20 Penzance, Cornwall, England Civil Engineer Apprentice Mary KING Lodger W Female 67 Gulval, Cornwall, England Annuitant Source Information: Dwelling 18 Cornwall Terrace Census Place Madron - Penzance, Cornwall, England Family History Library Film 1341564 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2347 / 15 Page Number 23 1891 Census: Civil parish: Phillack Urban Sanitary District: Phillack Ecclesiastical parish: St Elwyn County: Cornwall Street address: Commercial Rd Source information: RG12/1852 Registration district: Redruth Sub registration district: Phillack ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Folio: 26 Page: 15 Stephen Michell Head M 41 Accountant Cornwall St. Day Annie L.(S.?) Michell Wife M 39 -- Cornwall Penzance Stephen H. Michell Son 11 Scholar Cornwall Penzance Alice P. Michell Daur 10 Scholar Cornwall Penzance William L.(S?) Michell Son 9 Scholar Cornwall Hayle Thomas L.(S? J?) Michell Son 8 Scholar Cornwall Hayle Sidney L.(?) Michell Son 6 Scholar Cornwall Hayle Violet E.(?) Michell Daur 4 -- Cornwall Hayle Amelia Love Mother in Law Wid 63 Living on her means Cornwall Calstock Elizabeth Hic[kh]in Serv S 20 General Servant Domestic Cornwall Phillack 1911 Census - Stephen Michell, wife Annie Michell (nee Annie Love), son Arthur --------------------------------------------------------- Census Ref: RG14PN14077 RG78PN839 RD300 SD4 ED21 SN295 Schedule Number: 295 --------------------------------------------------------- County: Cornwall District: Penzance Subdistrict: Penzance Enumeration District: 21 Parish: Penzance -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Relation MF Age Marital Years Ch Ch Ch Occupation Industry Emplyr/ Working Birthplace Year Indiv. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Status Marr'd Bn Lvg Dd ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ /Workr At Home ~ ~ ~ ~ Born ~ ~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mary Callenso Head F 58 Single - - - - Penzance, Cornwall c1853 Stephen Michell Visitor M 61 Married - - - - Accountant & company secretary Commercial St Days, Cornwall c1850 <86> Annie Sophie Michell Visitor F 57 Married 32 7 7 - Penzance, Cornwall c1854 Annie Sophia Love <87> Arthur Davey Michell Visitor M 17 Single - - - - School Hayle, Cornwall c1894 <<32>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Rooms 6 Signature (sig) Mary Callenso Postal Address 4 South Terrace, Penzance, Cornwall --------------------------------------------------------- IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Stephen Michell Male Event(s): Birth: 1850 St Day, , Cornwall, England Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: Ann S Marriage: About 1878 Penzance, , Cornwall, England Messages: Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter. Source Information: No source information is available. IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Ann S Female Event(s): Birth: 1854 Penzance, , Cornwall, England Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: Stephen Michell Family Marriage: About 1878 Penzance, , Cornwall, England Messages: Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter. Source Information: No source information is available. www.familyhistoryonline.net - Cornwall 1881 Census (03/05/2004) : 1. Name Henry LOVE Relationship Head Condition M Gender M Age 63 Occupation Retired Master Mariner Lodging House Keeper Birthplace Penzance, Cornwall, England Address 18 Cornwall Terrace, Madron - Penzance, Cornwall, England PRO ref RG11/2347 Folio 15 Page 23 FHL film no. 1341564 2. Name Amelia LOVE Relationship Wife Condition M Gender F Age 53 Occupation – Birthplace Calstock, Cornwall, England Address 18 Cornwall Terrace, Madron - Penzance, Cornwall, England PRO ref RG11/2347 Folio 15 Page 23 FHL film no. 1341564 3. Name William J. LOVE Relationship Son Condition U Gender M Age 20 Occupation Civil Engineer Apprentice Birthplace Penzance, Cornwall, England Address 18 Cornwall Terrace, Madron - Penzance, Cornwall, England PRO ref RG11/2347 Folio 15 Page 23 FHL film no. 1341564 4. Name Mary KING Relationship Lodger Condition W Gender F Age 67 Occupation Annuitant Birthplace Gulval, Cornwall, England Address 18 Cornwall Terrace, Madron - Penzance, Cornwall, England PRO ref RG11/2347 Folio 15 Page 23 FHL film no. 1341564 ============================================================================== ID: <88> Status: D Name: \Thomas Michell\ Gender: M Gen: -5 Position: 010100 Born: 21/03/1813, Cornwall [Greville] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Married: (Private) _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Died: 01/10/1893 [Greville] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Partner: <89> Child: <86> Father: <95> Mother: ??? Sibling: \Alice Michell\, born 22/08/1806; died 09/06/1840 [grev] Married \John Barrett:c1806\ Children: \Thomas Michell Barrett:D\, died aged 16 years [grev] \Elizabeth Michell:1808\, born 12/07/1808 [grev] \Theophilus Michell:1810:1839\, born 24/03/1810; died 21/01/1839 [grev] \John Michell:1815:1886\, born 23/09/1815; died 25/03/1886 [grev] \Richard Michell:1818\, born 09/03/1818 \Jane Michell:1820\, born 21/10/1820 Married \Joseph Came:c1820\ \Caroline Michell:1822:1823\, born 14/06/1822; died 16/09/1823 \Stephen Michell:1824:1840\, born 08/11/1824; died 29/09/1840 \Caroline Michell:1826\, born 16/12/1826 Notes: _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Stated on birth certificate of son Stephen Michell <86> to be a 'M_____ Tailor' (first word unclear). 1841 census: Civil parish: Gwennap with St Day Hundred: Kerrier County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street address: Market St Source information: HO107/137/11 Registration district: Redruth Sub-registration district: Gwennap and Stithians ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Folio: 53 Page: 2 Line number: 3 GSU Number: 241260 Name MF Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thos Michell M 28 Tailor Y abt 1813 Thomas Michell <88> Nanny Michell F 30 Y abt 1811 Ann Prout <89> Jane Michell F 2 Y abt 1839 Nanny Michell F 7 months Y abt 1840 Eliza Bassett F 17 F.S Y abt 1824 May Stephens F 15 Tailoress Y abt 1826 1851 census: Parish: Gwennap Town: St Day Address: Scorrier(?) Street County/Island: Cornwall Source information: HO107/1914 Registration district: Redruth Sub-registration district: Gwennap ED, institution, or vessel: 2f Folio: 160 Page: 8 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 28 GSU Number: 221068 Name MF Relation Mar Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individal --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Michell M Head Mar 38 Merecix(?) Jailer (Master) employing 6 men + 16 women Kenwyn, Cornwall abt 1813 Thomas Michell <88> Ann Michell F Wife Mar 42 - St. Agnes, Cornwall abt 1809 Ann Prout <89> Jane Michell F Dau Un 11 Scholar Gwennap, Cornwall abt 1840 Jane Michell <<86>> Nanny Michell F Dau Un 10 Scholar Gwennap, Cornwall abt 1841 Theophilus Michell M Son Un 8 Scholar Gwennap, Cornwall abt 1843 Theophilus Michell <<86>> Kitty Michell F Dau Un 6 Scholar Gwennap, Cornwall abt 1845 Christian Kate Michell <<86>> Alice Michell F Dau Un 4 Scholar Gwennap, Cornwall abt 1847 Alice Michell <<86>> Thomas Michell M Son Un 2 In Home Gwennap, Cornwall abt 1849 Thomas Michell <<86>> Stephen Michell M Son Un 1 In Home Gwennap, Cornwall abt 1850 Stephen Michell <86> Eliz'th A Perry F Serv Un 15 House Servant Gwennap, Cornwall abt 1836 ============================================================================== ID: <89> Status: D Name: \Ann Prout\ Also known as "Nanny Michell" [CK] Gender: F Gen: -5 Position: 010101 Born: c1818, Cornwall [Greville] - Not sure if this date is accurate _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Married: (Private) _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Died: (Private) _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ Partner: <88> Child: <86> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ 1841 census: Civil parish: Gwennap with St Day Hundred: Kerrier County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street address: Market St Source information: HO107/137/11 Registration district: Redruth Sub-registration district: Gwennap and Stithians ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Folio: 53 Page: 2 Line number: 3 GSU Number: 241260 Name MF Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thos Michell M 28 Tailor Y abt 1813 Thomas Michell <88> Nanny Michell F 30 Y abt 1811 Ann Prout <89> Jane Michell F 2 Y abt 1839 Nanny Michell F 7 months Y abt 1840 Eliza Bassett F 17 F.S Y abt 1824 May Stephens F 15 Tailoress Y abt 1826 1851 census: Parish: Gwennap Town: St Day Address: Scorrier(?) Street County/Island: Cornwall Source information: HO107/1914 Registration district: Redruth Sub-registration district: Gwennap ED, institution, or vessel: 2f Folio: 160 Page: 8 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 28 GSU Number: 221068 Name MF Relation Mar Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individal --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Michell M Head Mar 38 Merecix(?) Jailer (Master) employing 6 men + 16 women Kenwyn, Cornwall abt 1813 Thomas Michell <88> Ann Michell F Wife Mar 42 - St. Agnes, Cornwall abt 1809 Ann Prout <89> Jane Michell F Dau Un 11 Scholar Gwennap, Cornwall abt 1840 Jane Michell <<86>> Nanny Michell F Dau Un 10 Scholar Gwennap, Cornwall abt 1841 Theophilus Michell M Son Un 8 Scholar Gwennap, Cornwall abt 1843 Theophilus Michell <<86>> Kitty Michell F Dau Un 6 Scholar Gwennap, Cornwall abt 1845 Christian Kate Michell <<86>> Alice Michell F Dau Un 4 Scholar Gwennap, Cornwall abt 1847 Alice Michell <<86>> Thomas Michell M Son Un 2 In Home Gwennap, Cornwall abt 1849 Thomas Michell <<86>> Stephen Michell M Son Un 1 In Home Gwennap, Cornwall abt 1850 Stephen Michell <86> Eliz'th A Perry F Serv Un 15 House Servant Gwennap, Cornwall abt 1836 /=============================================================================/ ID: <90> Status: D Name: \Arthur Ward\ Gender: M Gen: -4 Position: 00000 Born: 16/03/1850, Woodhouse, Sheffield, Yorkshire [birth cert] c1850, Woodhouse, Sheffield, Yorkshire [1881C] c1851, Woodhouse, Sheffield, Yorkshire [1881C] c1851, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1861C] c1850, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1851C] Married: Probably c1870 [1881C] Died: 28/05/1891, 52 Siddals Road, Derby [cert] Approx. 5-7 years after birth of son John <45>, Therefore c1890 [Hilda, 1891C] Partner: <91> Child: <45> Father: <123> Mother: <124> Sibling: \George Ward:c1840\ * Assumed to be the son of Daniel <123> and thus brother of Arthur <90> though the 1841 census does not specify relationships * In 1841: Aged 1 (so born c1840), born in Yorkshire; living in Tapton, Sheffield, Yorkshire [1841C] Presumably died young, as he doesn't show in any later censuses. \Walter Ward:1841\, born 12/12/1841, Tapton, Yorkshire [cert] In 1851: Aged 9 (so born c1842), born Handworth, Yorkshire; living in Handsworth, Yorkshire; attending school [1851C] No mention yet found in the 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891 or 1901, it's likely he died between 1851-1881 (the 1861 and 1871 are patchy, but he would be in the 1881). Birth Ref: Walter Ward, Dec 1841, Ecclesall Bierlow, XXII/126 [GRO image] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Ecclesall Bierlow 1841 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Nether Hallam in the County of York No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 340 Twelth of December 1841 Walter Boy Daniel Ward Elizabeth Ward Jobber E Ward Thirty First Wm Brittey Tapton formerly Elliott Mother of December 1841 Registrar Tapton ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is this his Death Ref ?: Walter Ward, Mar 1862, "Ecclesall, B", 9c/159 [GRO] (Found record of a Walter Ward born in Handworth born c1844 in the 1901, 1891, 1881, 1871, 1861 and 1851, but tracing back to the 1851 and 1861 he was the son of a Thomas Ward.) \Clara Ward:1845\, born 14/06/1845, Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [cert] In 1851: Aged 5 (so born c1846), born Handworth, Yorkshire; living in Handsworth, Yorkshire; attending school [1851C] In 1861: Aged 15 (so born c1846), born Handsworth, Yorkshire; living in St Alkmund, Derbyshire; attending school [1861C] In 1871: Aged 25 (so born c1846), born Handsworth, Warwickshire(!); living at 7 Traffic St, St Peter, Derby, Derbyshire [1871C] In 1881: Aged 35 (so born c1846), born Handsworth, Yorkshire; living at Main Street, Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1881C] In 1891: Aged 45 (so born c1846), born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; living at Markst(?) St, Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1891C] In 1901: Aged 55 (so born c1846), born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; living at 62 Marlborough Road, Leicester, Leicestershire [1901C] Birth Ref: Clara Ward, Jun 1845, Sheffield, XXII/575 [GRO image] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Sheffield 1845 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Handsworth in the County of York No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 326 Fourteenth of June 1845 Clara Girl Daniel Ward Elizabeth Ward Cattle Dealer Elizabeth Ward Twenty Eighth George Sibray Woodhouse formerly Elliott Mother of June 1845 Registrar Woodhouse ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Married \James Brooke:c1840\, born c1840, Great Houghton, Yorkshire [1881C,1891C] In 1881: Aged 41 (so born c1840), born Great Houghton, Yorkshire; a Draper Grocer employing 2 men + 1 apprentice; living at Main Street, Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1881C] In 1891: Aged 51 (so born c1840), born Great Houghton, Yorkshire; a Draper + Grocer with 1 apprentice; living at Markst(?) St, Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1891C] In 1901: Aged 62 (so born c1839), born Houghton, Yorkshire; Porter (at a) Hotel; living at 62 Marlborough Road, Leicester, Leicestershire [1901C] Recorded in 1881, as are his family, as _Brookes_ not _Brooke_, but the 1891 and 1901 are consistent as _Brooke_, as is the GRO marriage index. Marriage cert gives age in 1877 as 38, so born c1839. [cert] Married James between 1871 and 1881 [based on censuses]. Marriage ref: James Brooke, Clara Ward, Jun 1877, Worksop, 7b/74 [FreeBMD, GRO images] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1877 Marriage solumnized at the Abbey Church in the parish of Worksop in the County of Nottingham No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 27 May 23rd 1877 James Brooke 38 Bachelor Grocer Handsworth Woodhouse William Brooke Cattle Dealer Clara Ward 31 Spinster - Worksop Daniel Ward Cattle Dealer Married in the Abbey Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church by License by me (sig) E Hawley, Vicar This Marriage in the was solumnized (sig) James Brooke Presence (sig) G. Rhodes between us (sig) Clara Ward of us (sig) Mary Foulds ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On the marriage James Brooke is confirmed to be a Grocer in 1877. [cert] On the marriage James Brooke's father is recorded as being \William Brooke\, a Cattle Dealer in 1877. [cert] Children: \George Brooke:c1879\, born c1879, Handsworth, Yorkshire In 1881: Aged 2 (so born c1879), born Handsworth, Yorkshire; living at Main Street, Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1881C] In 1891: Aged 12 (so born c1879), born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; attending school; living at Markst(?) Street, Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1891C] In 1901: Aged 22 (so born c1883), born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; Confectioner; living at 62 Marlborough Road, Leicester, Leicestershire [1901C] \Clara Hilda Brooke:c1883\, born c1883, Woodhouse, Yorkshire In 1891: Aged 8 (so born c1883), born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; attending school; living at Markst(?) Street, Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1891C] In 1901: Aged 18 (so born c1883), born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; Engineers Clerk; living at 62 Marlborough Road, Leicester, Leicestershire [1901C] \Sidney Brooke:c1886\, born c1886, Woodhouse, Yorkshire In 1891: Aged 5 (so born c1883), born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; attending school; living at Markst(?) Street, Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1891C] In 1901: Aged 15 (so born c1883), born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; Accountants Clerk; living at 62 Marlborough Road, Leicester, Leicestershire [1901C] \Bernard Ward:1848\, born 15/02/1848, Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [birth cert] In 1851: Aged 3 (so born c1848), born Handworth, Yorkshire; living in Handsworth, Yorkshire; attending school [1851C] In 1861: Aged 13 (so born c1848), born Handsworth, Yorkshire; living in St Alkmund, Derbyshire; attending school [1861C] In 1871: Aged 23 (so born c1848), born Handsworth, Warwickshire(!); living at 7 Traffic St, St Peter, Derby, Derbyshire; 'Dealer' [1871C] In 1881: Aged 33 (so born c1848), born Handsworth, Yorkshire; living at 7 Traffic St, Derby, Derbyshire; Cattle Dealer [1881C] In 1891: Aged 43 (so born c1848), born Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire; living at 1 Darwin Terrace, Derby, Derbyshire; Cattle Dealer [1891C] In 1901: Aged 53 (so born c1848), born Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire; living at 26 La____ood St, Derby, Derbyshire; Cattle Dealer [1901C] Birth Ref: Bernard Ward, Mar 1848, Sheffield, XXII/561 [GRO image] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Sheffield 1848 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Handsworth in the County of York No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 117 Fifteenth February 1848 Bernard Boy Daniel Ward Elizabeth Ward Farmer Elizabeth Ward Twenty Eighth George Sibray Woodhouse formerly Elliott Mother March 1848 Registrar Woodhouse ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to Hilda <<7>> : Hilda's dad's uncle - John's <45> uncle Therefore either Arthur's <90> brother or married a sibling of Phoebe <91> Busisnessman in Derby [Hilda <<7>>] Lost his granddads businsss in Derby [Hilda <<7>>] Christine has a letter from Bernard to Arthur in 1908 saying about the loss of the business Business swindling? [Hilda <<7>>] "must have been wealthy" [direct quote from Hilda <<7>>] Used to go to russia, and married a russian [Hilda <<7>>] In 1912, Bernard <<90>> wrote a letter (on paper headed "Bernard Ward", "BERNARD WARD, HOG SALESMAN, 26, CHARNWOOD STREET, DERBY.") dated 12/06/1912 to 'Jack' (John Ward <45>) In it he mentions a daughter who died in Russia "last Thursday week" of cancer. Implication of a second daughter ("her sister"). "I am sorry to tell you I had a daughter died last Thursday week in Russia, its been a great trouble to us we expected it some time since she had cancer, I took her sister over to St Petersburg last hov[?] I left her with them, so expect her home now in a few days." Mention of a "second son from Canada" Mention of the writers "eldest son", with implication of being different to and older than his "second son from Canada", and thus having at least two sons "I sent for my second son from Canada to take [Arthurs] job" "only a fortnight since my son from Canada wanted us to take [Arthur] on again but eldest son said he would not have it again" Refers in third person to a "Bernard" "... Bernard could ... do with him in Leicester any longer ..." Is this his son Bernard born c1874 (see below)? Was his "second son from Canada" Walter born c1876 (see below)? How does Frances (wife, below) and their children (below) relate, if at all, to Bernards russian family? Did one of these daughters - Adelaide, Bertha or Clara - go to live in Russia, and die over there in 1912? Which other daughter was taken to Russia in 1912 as a result? In 1881, 1891 and 1901, Bernard is married to \Frances ____:c1850\ (also known as Fanny), born c1850, Alfreton, Derbyshire In 1881: aged 32 (so born c1849), born Alfreton, Derbyshire; living at 7 Traffic St, Derby, Derbyshire [1881C] In 1891: aged 41 (so born c1850), born Alfreton, Derbyshire; living at 1 Darwin Terrace, Derby, Derbyshire [1891C] In 1901: aged 51 (so born c1850), born Alfreton, Derbyshire; living at 26 La____ood St, Derby, Derbyshire [1901C] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ They had children: \Bernard Ward:c1874\, born c1874, Derby, Derbyshire In 1881: aged 7 (so born c1874), born in Derby; living at 7 Traffic St, Derby, Derbyshire [1881C] In 1891: aged 17 (so born c1874), born in Derby; living at 1 Darwin Terrace, Derby, Derbyshire; Cattle Dealer [1891C] \Walter Ward:c1876\, born c1876, Derbyshire In 1881: aged 5 (so born c1876), born in Marikay(?), Derbyshire; living at 7 Traffic St, Derby, Derbyshire [1881C] In 1891: aged 15 (so born c1876), born in Marebay(?), Derbyshire; living at 1 Darwin Terrace, Derby, Derbyshire; attending school [1891C] \Adelaide Francis Ward:c1878\ (female), born c1878, Derby, Derbyshire In 1881: aged 3 (so born c1878), born in Derby; living at 7 Traffic St, Derby, Derbyshire In 1891: aged 13 (so born c1878), born in Derby; living at 1 Darwin Terrace, Derby, Derbyshire; attending school [1891C] In 1901: aged 23 (so born c1878), born in Derby; living at 26 La____ood St, Derby, Derbyshire [1901C] \Bertha Ward:1880\, born 1880, Derby, Derbyshire In March-April 1881: aged 5 months (so born 1880), born in Derby; living at 7 Traffic St, Derby, Derbyshire [1881C] In 1891: aged 10 (so born c1881), born in Derby; living at 1 Darwin Terrace, Derby, Derbyshire; attending school [1891C] \George Ward:c1883\, born c1883, Derby, Derbyshire In 1891: aged 8 (so born c1883), born in Derby; living at 1 Darwin Terrace, Derby, Derbyshire; attending school [1891C] In 1901: aged 17 (so born c1884), born in Derby; living at 26 La____ood St, Derby, Derbyshire [1901C] \Richard S Ward:c1886\, born c1886, Derby, Derbyshire In 1891: aged 5 (so born c1886), born in Derby; living at 1 Darwin Terrace, Derby, Derbyshire; attending school [1891C] \Clara Ward:c1887\, born c1887, Derby, Derbyshire In 1891: aged 4 (so born c1887), born in Derby; living at 1 Darwin Terrace, Derby, Derbyshire [1891C] \Dennis E Ward:c1895\, born c1895, Derby, Derbyshire In 1901: aged 6 (so born c1895), born in Derby; living at 26 La____ood St, Derby, Derbyshire [1901C] In 1891 Bernard and Frances also have a servant. Notes: Named on birth cert of son Walter <<45>> as a Cattle Dealer on 05/03/1875; Phoebe <91> (and presumably Arthur <90>) was living at 13 Waterloo Street, Derby. Named on birth cert of son John <45> as a Butcher on 01/01/1884; Phoebe <91> (and presumably Arthur <90>) was living at 7 Traffic Street, Derby. Named on birth cert of daughter Elizabeth <<45>> as a Butcher on 15/01/1878, living at 7 Traffic Street, Derby. Named on marriage cert of daughter Elizabeth <<45>> as a Pig Dealer (deceased) on 09/03/1896. Birth Ref: Arthur Ward, Jun 1850, Sheffield, XXII/644 [GRO image] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Sheffield 1850 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Handsworth in the County of York No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 374 Sixteenth March 1850 Arthur Boy Daniel Ward Elizabeth Ward Cattle Dealer Daniel Ward Twentieth April George Sibray Woodhouse formerly Elliott Father 1850 Registrar Woodhouse ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Sheffield Created 1st July 1837. Sub-districts : Attercliffe; Brightside; East Brightside; Handsworth; Hillsborough; North Sheffield; Sheffield Park; South Sheffield; West Brightside; West Sheffield. GRO volumes : XXII (1837-51); 9c (1852-1930). Attercliffe cum Darnall, Bradfield Urban (from 1914), Brightside Bierlow, Ecclesfield Urban (from 1902), Handsworth, Sheffield. Registers now in Sheffield district. ---- Ecclesall Bierlow Created 1st July 1837. Mainly in West Riding, but included parts of Derbyshire. Sub-districts : Bramhall; Dore; Ecclesall Bierlow; Ecclesall Central; Ecclesall North; Ecclesall South; Ecclesall West; Nether Hallam; Norton; Sharrow; Upper Hallam. GRO volumes : XXII (1837-51); 9c (1852-1930). Ecclesall Bierlow, Heeley, Nether Hallam, Norton Within (from 1904), Upper Hallam. Registers now in Sheffield district. ---- GRO death index: Quarter: Jun 1891 Name: Arthur Ward <90> Age/DOB: 40 District: Derby Vol/Page: 7b/406 Researched: 22/05/2004, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 22/05/2004. Arrived 28/05/2004. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Derby 1891 DEATH in the Sub-district of Derby in the County of Derby No. When/where Name Sex Age Occupation Cause of death Informant When reg. Registrar 306 Twenty eighth May 1891 Arthur Ward Male 40 Cattle Dealer ____ tremers(?) 8 days Arthur Ward Thirtieth May 1891 A(?).Salisard 52 Siddals Road years of 52 Siddals Road Pneumonia 4 days Son Registrar Derby Exhaustion 52 Siddals Road Certified by Derby C(E?) H Taylor MORES(?) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- According to Auntie Hilda <<7>>: John <45> was born in Derby Lived near Derby station? Mother Phoebe Fox <91> (died when he was 2) Father Arthur <90> (died when he was 5) Went to derby - something to do with pigs - went to Ireland, mugged on the way home Phoebe and Arthur(?) wrote a book on Woodhouse Brought to Beighton to be brought up by his Aunt Eleanor Ward Eleanor's husband was an Undertaker in Beighton Had an uncle (brother?) - Bernard Ward? He married a Russian? -- More from Auntie Hilda <<7>>: Hilda <7> had an Aunt Bessie who died young Hilda <7> had an Aunt Tilly (Elizabeth) who lived in Leicester and who married (after bessie died) They called her "Mrs Moony" (so married a "Mr Moony"?) Hilda <7> had an Aunt Fanny who lived at Derby Eleanor Ward married George Waller On Bernard Ward (also from Hilda) : Bernard was Hilda's dad's uncle - John's <45> uncle Therefore either Arthur's <90> brother or married a sibling of Phoebe <91> (We did not know if Bernard was a Ward by birth or marriage, though by birth was most likely) Bernard was a busisnessman in Derby Bernard lost his granddads businsss in Derby Christine has a letter from Bernard to Arthur in 1908 saying about the loss of the business Bernard was business swindling? Bernard "must have been wealthy" [direct quote from Hilda <7>] Bernard used to go to russia, and married a russian -- It appears John <<45>> was brought up not by Eleanor Ward but by Charlotte Ward, and Charlotte was not a direct aunt - - not Arthurs sister - though she may have been a more distant cousin? See John <<45>> for more information. In 1912, Bernard Ward <<90>> wrote a letter (on paper headed "Bernard Ward", "BERNARD WARD, HOG SALESMAN, 26, CHARNWOOD STREET, DERBY.") dated 12/06/1912 to 'Jack' (actually John <45>). It implies 'Jack' has an "Aunt Clara" Mention of "your Aunt" - ie. Jacks Aunt - with implication this also refers to "Aunt Clara" Mention of "your grandfather" - ie. Jacks grandfather - in relation to photos Mention made of "your father" - ie. Jacks father - in relation to photos Mention made of "my father" - ie. Bernards father - in relation to photos Statements that "Aunt Clara" has photos of "[Jacks] grandfather" Statements that "Aunt Clara" may have photos of "[Jacks] father" "I am sorry I have no photo of your father, or my father, I mean to get some taken I will send you one of mine. ... Your Aunt Clara has your grandfather[s] photo. I don't remember ever seeing one of your father, your Aunt will look up some + I will post them in a few days, she has some of mine she says but I don't remember them." 1851 census: Parish: Handsworth Village: Woodhouse Address: Road house County/Island: Yorkshire Source information: HO107/2342 Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: Brightside ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Folio: 561 Page: 17 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 60 GSU Number: 87598-87600 Name MF Relation Mar Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Ward M Head Mar 33 Cattle dealer Yorks Handsworth abt 1818 Daniel Ward <123> Elizabeth Ward F Wife Mar 35 Yorks Hallam abt 1816 Elizabeth Elliott <124> Walter Ward M Son 9 Scholar Yorks Handsworth abt 1842 Clara Ward F Daur 5 Scholar Yorks Handsworth abt 1846 Bernard Ward M Son 3 Yorks Handsworth abt 1848 Bernard Ward <<90>> Arthur Ward M Son 1 Yorks Handsworth abt 1850 Arthur Ward <90> Margaret Brasington F Servant U 18 General Servant Stafford Warslow abt 1833 1861 census: Civil parish: St Alkmund County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Address: 3 Darwin Terrace Source information: RG9/2495 Registration district: Derby Sub-registration district: St Alkmund ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Folio: 7 Page: 13 Household schedule number: 64 GSU Number: 542979 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Daniel Ward M Head Mar 45 Cattle Dealer Handsworth, Woodhouse, Yorkshire, England abt 1816 Daniel Ward <123> Elizabeth Ward F Wife Mar 45 Upper Hallam, Yorkshire, England abt 1816 Elizabeth Elliott <124> Clara Ward F Daughter 15 Scholar Handsworth, Woodhouse, Yorkshire, England abt 1846 Clara Ward <<90>> Bernard Ward M Son 13 Scholar Handsworth, Woodhouse, Yorkshire, England abt 1848 Bernard Ward <<90>> Arthur Ward M Son 10 Scholar Handsworth, Woodhouse, Yorkshire, England abt 1851 Arthur Ward <90> 1871 census: Civil Parish: St Peter Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street Address: 7 Traffic St Source information: RG10/3564 Registration district: Derby Sub-registration district: St Peter ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Folio: 52 Page: 2 Household schedule number: 8 GSU Number: 839767 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Elizabeth Ward F Head Widow 57 Yorkshire Sheffield abt 1814 Elizabth ? <124> Clard Ward F Daur Unm 25 Warwickshire Handsworth abt 1846 Clara Ward <<90>> Bernard Ward M Son Unm 23 Dealer Warwickshire Handsworth abt 1848 Bernard Ward <<90>> Cornelius Ickermershen M Boarder Unm 28 Manager of a Cheese Factory New York U.S. of America abt 1843 Phoebe <91> and Arthur <90> in 1881 : Household: Name Relation M.Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Arthur WARD Head M Male 30 Woodhouse Sheffield Cattle Dealer Pheobe WARD Wife M Female 29 Derby Arthur WARD Son Male 9 Derby Scholar Fanny WARD Son Female 6 Derby Scholar Elizabeth WARD Daur Female 3 Derby Eliza BAKER Neice Female 10 Derby Scholar Source Information: Dwelling 65 Rivett St Census Place Derby St Peter, Derby, England Family History Library Film 1341811 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3394 / 39 Page Number 25 There is no mention of any matching Phoebe Ward aged approx. 39 in the 1891 census, supporting a view that if John was born after the 1881 census that Phoebe died before the 10 years was up. The corresponding census entry for Arthur <90> in 1891 is: Civil parish: St Peters Municipal borough: Derby Municipal ward: Castle Urban sanitary district: Derby Parliamentary borough or division: Derby Eccliastical parish or district: St Peters Address: 52 Liddals Rd Household: Arthur Ward, Head, Wid, 39, Cattle Dealer, Derby Arthur Ward, Son, S, 20, General Laborer [sic], Derby Fanny Ward, Daur, S, 16, General Servant, Derby Tilly Ward, Daur, , 11, Scholar, Derby Jack Ward, Son, , 6, Scholar, Derby It certainly matches the 1881 data closely enough, and is consistent with Phoebe's <91> death in 1886. Arthur's death (from FreeBMD) : Deaths Jun 1891 Ward Arthur 40 Derby 7b 406 It would have occurred when John was approximately 7 years old (maybe 6), within a reasonable margin of error of what Hilda said of Arthur dying when John <45> was 5. It would also be after the 1891 census, and thus consistent with that data. 1837online.com (22/05/2004) search for Arthur's <90> death: Jun 1891 WAR/1 WARD, Arthur, 40, Derby, 7b/406 * Sep 1891 WAR/1 -- Dec 1891 WAR/2/1 WARD, Arthur, 6, Thetford, 4b/245 WARD, Arthur, 1, Oxford, 3a/497 Mar 1892 WAR/2/1 (five Arthurs, all aged 0 or 1) Jun 1892 WAR/1 (Three Arthurs aged 0 or 1) WARD, Arthur Bayley, 26, Reigata(?), 2a/98 WARD, Arthur James, 29, W.Bromwich, 6b/478 Sep 1892 WAR/1 (Three aged 0) Dec 1892 WAR/1 (None aged over 5) Mar 1893 WAR/1 (Five aged 5 or less) WARD, Arthur, 24, Portses, 2b/330 (350? - probably 330 tho) WARD, Arthur, 14, Coventry, 6d/332 WARD, Arthur, 20, Alcester, 6d/431 WARD, Arthur, 31 (51?), Knaresbro', 9e(9a?)/83 Jun 1893 WAR/1 (Three, all aged 5 or less) Sep 1893 WAR/2/1 (Six aged 0 or 1) WARD, Arthur, 15 (16?), Stockport, 8a/53 Dec 1893 WAR/2/1 (Three aged 3 or less) WARD, Arthur, 20, Leeds, 9b/374 WARD, Arthur, 31, Liverpool, 8b/47 WARD, Arthur, 40, Worksop, 7b/14 Mar 1894 WAR/2/1 (Three aged 3 or less) WARD, Arthur, 59, Monmouth, 11a(?)/26 Jun 1894 WAR/1 (Five aged 4 or less) WARD, Arthur, 41, Leicester, 7a/128 Sep 1894 WAR/1 (One aged 0, one aged 5) WARD, Arthur, 10, Wandsworth, 1d/322(32_) Dec 1894 WAR/1 (One aged 0, one aged 7) WARD, Arthur Hope, 27, Fulham, 1e(1a?)/205(203?) Mar 1895 WAR/1 -- Jun 1895 WAR/1 (Two aged 0, one aged 8) WARD, Arthur, 53, Ipswich, 4a/510 WARD, Arthur Richard, 17, St. Saviour, 1d/14 Sep 1895 WAR/1 (Five aged 4 or less) WARD, Arthur, 34, Wisbech, 3b/3[389]5 Dec 1895 WAR/2 (Four aged 0 or 1) WARD, Arthur, 30, Blaby, 7a/18 --- This census data isn't certain to be _my_ Arthur and Phoebe, but by 1891 the Phoebe of the household is not listed (and Arthur listed as a widower) matching what we know about Phoebe dying around 1886. I phoned Hilda 29/05/2004 to try and confirm if this census data is "my" Arthur and Phoebe, and she's confirmed that at least two of the daughters of Arthur and Phoebe in the census, Elizabeth and Fanny, were aunts of hers. She also mentioned Elizabeth was called Tilly, and in the 1891 census household where Elizabeth had seemed to be missing, there was what looked at first like a 'Lilly'. Looking at it again, I think it actually does say Tilly! In that 1891 census, aged 6, is Jack Ward. I think this was John! (In the same way as grandpa was called Jack while having a birth name of John, so I think his father was also.) I'm sure now that this census data is "them". I found the death certificate reference for Phoebe in 1886. Based on the ages in the census I also traced a likely birth reference for Phoebe, and found a likely death ref for Arthur in 1891. I've got those certificates, and the information in both the death certs definitely matches the census data, right down to the addresses where they lived in Derby. The birth cert for Phoebe I can't conclusively tie to the census data yet, but matches closely with the ages in the census and her age of death. I'm as sure as I reasonably can be (without any more information to go on) that it's her. --- Search for birth of Arthur Ward <90> on 1837online (21/11/2004) Dec 1849 -- Mar 1850 -- Jun 1850 WARD, Arthur, Sheffield, XXII/[46]44 (probably 644) ************************* WARD, Arthur, Brighton, [XV]II/340 WARD, Arthur, Hatfield, VI/[35]34 WARD, Arthur Augustus, Basford, XV_(0,?)/478 WARD, Arthur, _(1,2)a[nr]d, Islington, III/300 Sep 1850 -- Dec 1850 WARD, Arthur, Aston, XVI/189 (Aston in Warwickshire) Mar 1851 WARD, Arthur, Loughbro, XV/16[89] WARD, Arthur, Grantham, XIV/428 WARD, Arthur, B S[lt]or[lt]ford, (?)VI/557 WARD, Arthur, Halstead, XII/128 WARD, Arthur, Nantwich, XIX/178 WARD, Arthur Edward, Chorlton, XX/166 WARD, Arthur E(ol/d)intine, Croydon, IV/131 Jun 1851 -- Sep 1851 WARD, Arthur Fielding, Haslingden, XX[I_]/531 WARD, Arthur Walter, Taunton(?), X/451 Dec 1851 WARD, Arthur, Atherstone, XVI/239 Mar 1852 -- Jun 1852 WARD, Arthur, Clerkenwell, 1b(?)/431 WARD, Arthur, Halstead, 4a/276 WARD, Arthur, Leighton B, 3b/384 WARD, Arthur, Atherstone, 6d/308 WARD, Arthur John, Sheffield, 9c/346 ************************* WARD, Arthur William, 7b/230 Sep 1852 WARD, Arthur Bennett, _cclesall B, 9[ce]/191 WARD, Arthur Edward, Lambeth, 1d (_maybe_ 4d, but unlikely) / 245 WARD, Arthur Ernest, Steadington, 3a/481 WARD, Arthur Henry, Coventry, 6d/350 (850?) WARD, Arthur John, Wolverhampton, 6b/323 Dec 1852 WARD, Arthur, Billesdon, 7a/28[56] WARD, Arthur, Liverpool, 8b/33_(0,1) WARD, Arthur, [LS]amford, 4a/489 WARD, Arthur Edward, Exeter, 5b/109 (maybe 709) WARD, Arthur Richard, St Pancras, 1b/137 (maybe 7b) Mar 1853 WARD, Arthur, Altringcham, 8a/183 WARD, Arthur, Bradford Y, 9b/194 WARD, Arthur, [C_]a[st]ford, 4a/401 WARD, Arthur Richard, Chelsea, [17]a/127 Probably the 1852 entry, if either, as the 1881 census records him as age 30, while the 1891 records him as age 39. Parents Daniel <123> and Elizabeth <124> in 1841: Civil parish: Sheffield Hundred: Strafforth and Tickhill (South Division) County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Tapton Source information: HO107/1334/2 Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub-registration district: Nether Hallam ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Folio: 64 Page: 10 Line number: 20 GSU Number: 464280 Name MF Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Ward M 20-24 Cattle Dealer Y abt 1819 Daniel Ward <123> Elizabeth Ward F 20-24 Y abt 1819 Elizabeth Elliott <124> George Ward M 1 Y abt 1840 Mary Hancock F 15-19 F.S Y abt 1824 Bernard Ward in 1881: Civil parish: Derby St Peter County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: 7 Traffic St Source information: RG12/3394 Registration district: Derby Sub registration district: Derby ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Folio: 53 Page: 3 GSU Number: 1341811 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bernard Ward M Head Mar 33 Cattle Dealer Handsworth Yorks abt 1848 Bernard Ward <<90>> Fanny Ward F Wife Mar 32 Alfreton Derbyshire abt 1849 Frances ? <<90>> Bernard Ward M Son Unm 7 Derby abt 1874 Bernard Ward <<90>> Walter Ward M Son Unm 5 Marikay(?) Derbyshire abt 1876 Walter Ward <<90>> Adelaide Francis Ward F Daur Unm 3 Derby abt 1878 Adelaide Ward <<90>> Bertha Ward F Daur Unm 5 months Derby abt 1880 Bertha Ward <<90>> Bernard Ward in 1891: Civil parish: St Alkmund Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Town: Derby County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street Address: 1 Darwin Ter Source information: RG12/2736 Registration district: Derby Sub registration district: Derby ED, institution, or vessel: 64 Folio: 82 Page: 1 GSU Number: 6097846 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bernard Ward M Head M 43 Cattle Dealer Yorkshire Handsworth Woodhouse abt 1848 Bernard Ward <<90>> Fanny Ward F Wife M 41 Derbyshire Alfreton abt 1850 Frances ? <<90>> Bernard Ward M Son S 17 Cattle Dealer Derbyshire Derby abt 1874 Bernard Ward <<90>> Walter Ward M Son S 15 Scholar Derbyshire Marebay(?) abt 1876 Walter Ward <<90>> Adelaide F. Ward F Daur 13 Scholar Derbyshire Derby abt 1878 Adelaide Ward <<90>> Bertha E. Ward F Daur 10 Scholar Derbyshire Derby abt 1881 Bertha Ward <<90>> George Ward M Son 8 Scholar Derbyshire Derby abt 1883 George Ward <<90>> Richard S. Ward M Son 5 Scholar Derbyshire Derby abt 1886 Richard Ward <<90>> Clara Jr Ward F Daur 4 Derbyshire Derby abt 1887 Clara Ward <<90>> Emma Reddish F Serv S 29 General Servant Derbyshire Alfreton Bernard Ward in 1901: Civil parish: Derby Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: 26 La____ood St Source information: RG13/3213 Registration district: Derby Sub-registration district: Derby ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Folio: 86 Page: 3 Household schedule number: 14 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bernard Ward M Head M 53 Cattle Dealer Handsworth Woodhouse Yorkshire abt 1848 Bernard Ward <<90>> Frances Ward F Wife M 51 Alfreton Derbyshire abt 1850 Frances ? <<90>> Adelaide F Ward F Daur S 23 Derby Derbyshire abt 1878 Adelaide Ward <<90>> George Ward M Son S 17 Articled Surveyor Derby Derbyshire abt 1884 George Ward <<90>> Dennis E. Ward M Son S 6 Derby Derbyshire abt 1895 Dennis Ward <<90>> Clara Ward in 1881: Civil parish: Handsworth County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Main Street Woodhouse Source information: RG12/4669 Registration district: Sheffield Sub registration district: Handsworth ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Folio: 76 Page: 34 GSU Number: 1342129 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James Brookes M Head Mar 41 Draper Grocer empl 2 men + 1 apprentice Yorkshire Great Houghton abt 1840 Clara Brookes F Wife Mar 35 Yorkshire Handsworth abt 1846 Clara Ward <<90>> George Brookes M Son 2 Yorkshire Handsworth abt 1879 Elizabeth Ward F Mother in law Widr 66 Yorkshire Upper Hallam abt 1815 Elizabeth Elliott <124> John William Pearson M Apprentice 16 Draper + Grocer Yorkshire Great Houghton abt 1865 Clara Ward in 1891: Civil parish: Handsworth Ecclesiastical parish: Woodhouse Town: Woodhouse County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Markst(?) St Source information: RG12/3843 Registration district: Sheffield Sub registration district: Handsworth ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Folio: 4 Page: 3 GSU Number: 6098953 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James Brooke M Head M 51 Grocer + Draper Yorks Great Houghton abt 1840 Clara Brooke F Wife M 45 Yorks Woodhouse abt 1846 Clara Ward <<90>> George Brooke M Son S 12 Scholar Yorks Woodhouse abt 1879 Clara Hilda Brooke F Daur S 8 Scholar Yorks Woodhouse abt 1883 Sidney Brooke F Son S 5 Scholar Yorks Woodhouse abt 1886 Elizabeth Ward F Mother in law Wid 77 Yorks Sheffield abt 1814 Elizabeth Elliott <124> Bessie Ward F Visitor S 12 Derby Derby abt 1879 Charles Goodwin M Apprentice S 14 Grocer's Apprentice Yorks Woodhouse Mill abt 1877 Clara Ward in 1901: Civil parish: Leicester formerly St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: The Martyrs County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address: 62 Marlborough Road Source information: RG13/3007 Registration district: Leicester Sub-registration district: South Leicester ED, institution, or vessel: 46 Folio: 48 Page: 11 Household schedule number: 69 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- James Brooke M Head M 62 Porter Hotel Yorks Houghton abt 1839 Clara Brooke F Wife M 55 Yorks Woodhouse abt 1846 Clara Ward <<90>> George Brooke M Son S 22 Confectioner Yorks Woodhouse abt 1879 Clara H Brooke F Daur S 18 Engineers Clerk Yorks Woodhouse abt 1883 Sidney Brooke M Son S 15 Accountants Clerk Yorks Woodhouse abt 1886 /=============================================================================/ ID: <91> Status: D Name: \Phoebe Fox\ Gender: F Gen: -4 Position: 00001 Born: 09/07/1851, 7 Drury Lane, Derby [cert] c1852, Derby [1881C] Married: Probably c1870 [1881C] Died: 30/03/1886, 52 Siddals Road, Derby [cert] 2 years after birth of son John <45>, c1886, district of Derby [Hilda, freebmd] Partner: <90> Child: <45> Father: <102> Mother: <103> Sibling: Matilda Cooper (Fox) <92> and other half-siblings \Harriett Fox:c1839\ In 1851: Aged 12 in 1851, so born c1839, Muggington, Derby, Derbyshire; Living at 7 Drury Lane, St Werburgh, Derby [1851C] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \George Fox:c1843\ In 1851: Aged 8 in 1851, so born c1843, St Werburgh, Derbyshire; Living at 7 Drury Lane, St Werburgh, Derby [1851C] \John Fox:c1847\ In 1851: Aged 4 in 1851, so born c1847, St Werburgh, Derbyshire; Living at 7 Drury Lane, St Werburgh, Derby [1851C] In 1861: Aged 14 in 1861, so born c1847, Derby, Derbyshire; Errand Boy; Living at 7 Drury Lane, St Werburgh, Derby [1861C] \Hannah Fox:1848\ Born 28/11/1848, Derby, Derbyshire [IGI] In 1851: Aged 2 in 1851 (born c1849, St Werburgh, Derbyshire); Living at 7 Drury Lane, St Werburgh, Derby [1851C] In 1861: Aged 12 in 1861, so born c1849, Derby, Derbyshire; Scholar; Living at 7 Drury Lane, St Werburgh, Derby [1861C] In 1881: Aged 33 in 1881 (born c1848, Derbyshire); Married to Herbert Pipes; Living at 79 Watson St, Derby St Alkmund, Derby, England [1881C] Married \Herbert Pipes:c1844\ (born c1844, Derbyshire) a 'Pattern Maker (Iron)' [1881C] Children: \John G Pipes:c1871\ In 1881: Aged 10 in 1881 (born c1871, Derbyshire); Living at 79 Watson St, Derby St Alkmund, Derby, England [1881C] \Harry Pipes:c1873\ In 1881: Aged 8 in 1881 (born c1873, Derbyshire); Living at 79 Watson St, Derby St Alkmund, Derby, England [1881C] \Joseph Pipes:c1874\ In 1881: Aged 7 in 1881 (born c1874, Derbyshire); Living at 79 Watson St, Derby St Alkmund, Derby, England [1881C] \Herbert Pipes:c1876\ In 1881: Aged 5 in 1881 (born c1876, Derbyshire); Living at 79 Watson St, Derby St Alkmund, Derby, England [1881C] \Arthur Pipes:c1877\ In 1881: Aged 4 in 1881 (born c1877, Derbyshire); Living at 79 Watson St, Derby St Alkmund, Derby, England [1881C] \Eliza Pipes:c1878\ In 1881: Aged 3 in 1881 (born c1878, Derbyshire); Living at 79 Watson St, Derby St Alkmund, Derby, England [1881C] \James Pipes:c1880\ In 1881: Aged 1 in 1881 (born c1880, Derbyshire); Living at 79 Watson St, Derby St Alkmund, Derby, England [1881C] Notes: Named on birth cert of son Walter <<45>> on 05/03/1875 as living at 13 Waterloo Street, Derby. Named on birth cert of son John <45> on 01/01/1884 as living at 7 Traffic Street, Derby. Named on birth cert of daughter Elizabeth <<45>> on 15/01/1878; Arthur <90> (and presumably Phoebe <91>) was living at 7 Traffic Street, Derby. GRO birth index: Quarter: Sep 1851 Name: Phoebe Fox <91> District: Derby Vol/Page: XIX/592 (590?) Researched: 12/04/2004, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 23/05/2004. Arrived 28/05/2004. GRO death index: Quarter: Mar 1886 Name: Phoebe Ward (Fox) <91> Age/DOB: 34 District: Derby Vol/Page: 7b/389 Researched: 12/04/2004, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 22/05/2004. Arrived 28/05/2004. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Derby 1851 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Saint Peter in the County of Derby No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 383 Ninth July 1851 Phoebe Girl John Fox Eliza Fox Labourer X The mark of Thirty first James Jay 7 Drury Lane formerly Eliza Fox July 1851 Registrar Cooper Mother 7 Drury Lane Derby ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Derby 1886 DEATH in the Sub-district of Derby in the County of Derby No. When/where Name Sex Age Occupation Cause of death Informant When reg. Registrar 256 Thirtieth March 1886 Phoebe Ward Female 34 Wife of Arthur Ward Contracted granular(?) Arthur Ward Thirty first Caleb(?) Birt 52 Siddals Road years a Cattle Dealer kidney uremia(?) Widower of deceased March 1886 Cuppleditch(?) Certified by present at death Registrar W.B Suthall MB 52 Siddals Road Derby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- According to Auntie Hilda <<7>>: John <45> was born in Derby Lived near Derby station? Mother Phoebe Fox <91> (died when he was 2) Father Arthur <90> (died when he was 5) Went to derby - something to do with pigs - went to Ireland, mugged on the way home Phoebe and Arthur(?) wrote a book on Woodhouse Brought to Beighton to be brought up by his Aunt Eleanor Ward Eleanor's husband was an Undertaker in Beighton Had an uncle (brother?) - Bernard Ward? He married a Russian? (See Arthur Ward <90> for more from Hilda on Arthur's siblings) -- Phoebe's <91> death (from FreeBMD) : Deaths Mar 1886 WARD Phoebe 34 Derby 7b 389 It is consistent with her dying when John <45> was 2 years old. 1851 census: Parish: Saint Werburgh Eccl district: Lichfield Borough: Derby Address: 7 Drury Lane County/Island: Derbyshire Source information: HO107/2143 Registration district: Derby Sub-registration district: St Peter ED, institution, or vessel: 3d Folio: 595 Page: 38 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 121 GSU Number: 87773-87774 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Fox M Head Mar 53 Labourer Derbyshire Radbourne abt 1798 John Fox <102> Eliza Fox F Wife Mar 41 Derbyshire Muggington abt 1810 Eliza Cooper <103> Matilda Fox F Daur U 14 Derbyshire Muggington abt 1837 Harriett Fox F Daur U 12 Derbyshire Muggington abt 1839 George Fox M Son U 8 Derby St Werburgh abt 1843 John Fox M Son U 4 Derby St Werburgh abt 1847 Hannah Fox F Daur U 2 (3?) Derby St Werburgh abt 1849 Note that at the time of the 1851 census in April 1851, Phoebe <91> was not born yet, and would not be born until July 1851. Note, however, the address: 7 Drury Lane, the same as where Phoebe was born and the residence of Eliza in July 1851 at the time of the birth. The census also records many of what would appear to be Phoebe's siblings. 1861 census: Parish: St Werburgh Munipal Borough: Derby Munipal Ward: Weckett (???) Parliamentary Borough: Derby Town: Derby Address: 7 Drury Lane Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Fox M Head Mar 65 Lobbing Labourer Derbysh Radbourne abt 1796 John Fox <102> Eliza Fox F Wife Mar 49 Derbysh Muggington abt 1812 Eliza Cooper <103> Matilda Fox F Daur Un 24 Silk Hand Derbysh Muggington abt 1837 John Fox M Son 14 Errand Boy Derbysh Derby abt 1847 Hannah Fox F Daur 12 Scholar Derbysh Derby abt 1849 Phoebe Fox F Daur 9 Scholar Derbysh Derby abt 1852 Phoebe Fox <91> 1871 census: Civil Parish: Moss Side Ecclesiastical parish: St Margarets Town: Lancaster County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Address: Meadow St Source information: RG10/4007 Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Hulme ED, institution, or vessel: 73 Folio: 92 Page: 26 Household schedule number: 138 GSU Number: 846104 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Job Vickers M Head Mar 27 Wholesale Tea Dealer Pendleton, Lancashire, England abt 1844 Isabella Vickers F Wife Mar 29 Hulme, Lancashire, England abt 1842 Charles H Vickers M Son 23 months Chorlton on Medlock, Lancashire, England abt 1869 Edmund Vickers M Son 1 month Moss Side, Lancashire, England abt 1871 Phoebe Fox F Servant 15 Servant Derbyshire, England abt 1856 Phoebe Fox <91> Like her mother Eliza <103> and sister Matilda <92>, after the death of father John Fox <102>, Phoebe seems to have entered domestic service. Within 10 years, by 1881, Phoebe married Arthur Ward and went to live with him. Phoebe <91> and Arthur <90> in 1881 : Household: Name Relation M.Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Arthur WARD Head M Male 30 Woodhouse Sheffield Cattle Dealer Pheobe WARD Wife M Female 29 Derby Arthur WARD Son Male 9 Derby Scholar Fanny WARD Son Female 6 Derby Scholar Elizabeth WARD Daur Female 3 Derby Eliza BAKER Neice Female 10 Derby Scholar Source Information: Dwelling 65 Rivett St Census Place Derby St Peter, Derby, England Family History Library Film 1341811 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3394 / 39 Page Number 25 There is no mention of any matching Phoebe Ward aged approx. 39 in the 1891 census, supporting a view that if John was born after the 1881 census that Phoebe died before the 10 years was up. The corresponding census entry for Arthur <90> in 1891 is: Civil parish: St Peters Municipal borough: Derby Municipal ward: Castle Urban sanitary district: Derby Parliamentary borough or division: Derby Eccliastical parish or district: St Peters Address: 52 Liddals Rd Household: Arthur Ward, Head, Wid, 39, Cattle Dealer, Derby Arthur Ward, Son, S, 20, General Laborer [sic], Derby Fanny Ward, Daur, S, 16, General Servant, Derby Tilly Ward, Daur, , 11, Scholar, Derby Jack Ward, Son, , 6, Scholar, Derby It certainly matches the 1881 data closely enough, and is consistent with Phoebe's <91> death in 1886. --- This census data isn't certain to be _my_ Arthur and Phoebe, but by 1891 the Phoebe of the household is not listed (and Arthur listed as a widower) matching what we know about Phoebe dying around 1886. I phoned Hilda 29/05/2004 to try and confirm if this census data is "my" Arthur and Phoebe, and she's confirmed that at least two of the daughters of Arthur and Phoebe in the census, Elizabeth and Fanny, were aunts of hers. She also mentioned Elizabeth was called Tilly, and in the 1891 census household where Elizabeth had seemed to be missing, there was what looked at first like a 'Lilly'. Looking at it again, I think it actually does say Tilly! In that 1891 census, aged 6, is Jack Ward. I think this was John! (In the same way as grandpa was called Jack while having a birth name of John, so I think his father was also.) I'm sure now that this census data is "them". I found the death certificate reference for Phoebe in 1886. Based on the ages in the census I also traced a likely birth reference for Phoebe, and found a likely death ref for Arthur in 1891. I've got those certificates, and the information in both the death certs definitely matches the census data, right down to the addresses where they lived in Derby. The birth cert for Phoebe I can't conclusively tie to the census data yet, but matches closely with the ages in the census and her age of death. I'm as sure as I reasonably can be (without any more information to go on) that it's her. --- Search for death of Phoebe Fox on 1837online (12/04/2004) : Mar 1885 WAR/2/1 -- Jun 1885 WAR/1/2 -- Sep 1885 WAR/2 WARD, Phoebe, 38, Bristol, 6a/6 WARD, Phoebe, 0, Lincoln, 7a/293 Dec 1885 WAR/2 -- Mar 1886 WAR/2 WARD, Phoebe, 34, Derby, 7b/389 ************ Jun 1886 WAR/2 WARD, Phoebe, 85, Belper, 7b/332 (had to drop firewall to see image) WARD, Phoebe, 66, Rotherham, 9c/353 Sep 1886 WAR/1 WARD, Phoebe, 67, Nottingham, 7b/173 WARD, Phoebe Ellen, 0, Wolverhampton, 6b/317 Dec 1886 WAR/2 -- Mar 1887 WAR/1 -- Jun 1887 WAR/2/1 -- Sep 1887 WAR/2 -- Dec 1887 WAR/2 WARD, Phoebe, 27, Lincoln, 7a/318 This confirms the death reference for a Phoebe Ward in the Derby district in 1886 that FreeBMD gave. It also places only _that_ Phoebe death in the district of Derby in that period, making it likely to be the death of the Phoebe in the Derby census. It remains a possibility it may not be, but a small possibility. I am happy enough that this 1881 data, 1891 data and the Phoebe death in 1886 cross-check with one another, they all likely apply to the same person/people. But is it _MY_ Phoebe and Arthur, or just a random Arthur Ward who married a random Phoebe? To prove a connection to the family tree, I need to prove this is Phoebe Fox. For that I need a birth/christening, or a marriage to Arthur Ward that gives an age at marriage consistent with the censuses and Phoebe death - preferably both. To that end: Search for birth of Phoebe Fox on 1837online (12/04/2004) : (handwritten) Mar 1851 FOX/2/3 -- Jun 1851 FOX/2/3 -- Sep 1851 FOX/2/3 FOX, Phabe, Derby, XIX/[56]90 (probably 590) ********** Dec 1851 FOX/2/3 FOX, Phebe Harriet, St Asaph (?), XXVII/213 Mar 1852 FOX/2/3 -- Jun 1852 FOX/2/2&3 -- Sep 1852 FOX/2/3 -- Dec 1852 FOX/2/3 FOX, Phoebe, Dorchester (Porchester?), 5a/349 Mar 1853 FOX/2/3 -- Jun 1853 FOX/2/3 -- Sep 1853 FOX/2/3 -- (printed) Dec 1853 FOX/1&2 -- Is this Phabe Fox born in Derby in Sep 1851 our Phoebe? Search for marriage of Phoebe Fox on 1837online (12/04/2004) : (handwritten) Mar 1865 FOX/2 FOX, Phebe, Mutford (Nutford?), 4a/973 WAR/2/1 WARD, Arthur, Bermondsey, 1d/77 Jun 1865 FOX/2 -- Sep 1865 FOX/2/2 -- Dec 1865 FOX/2/2 -- (printed) Mar 1866 FOX/1 -- Jun 1866 FOX/1 -- Sep 1866 FOX/1 -- Dec 1866 FOX/2 -- Mar 1867 FOX/1 -- Jun 1867 FOX/1 -- Sep 1867 FOX/1 -- Dec 1867 FOX/1 ?????????? (Image available, but it's awful. Perfectly readable, just badly printed with letters everywhere...) UPDATE: Better (handwritten) image seen: no Phoebe present. Mar 1868 FOX/1 -- Jun 1868 FOX/1 -- Sep 1868 FOX/1 -- Dec 1868 FOX/1 -- Mar 1869 FOX/1 -- Jun 1869 FOX/2 -- Sep 1869 FOX/1 FOX, Phoebe, Derby, 7b/605 WAR/1 WARD, Arthur, Leicester, 7a/216 Dec 1869 FOX/1 FOX, Phoebe, Hull, 9d/397 WAR/1 -- Mar 1870 FOX/1 -- Jun 1870 FOX/2 -- Sep 1870 FOX/1 -- Dec 1870 FOX/1 -- Mar 1871 FOX/1 -- Jun 1871 FOX/1 -- Sep 1871 FOX/1 -- Dec 1871 FOX/1 -- Mar 1872 FOX/2 -- Jun 1872 FOX/1 -- Sep 1872 FOX/1 FOX, Ph__be, Hull, 9d/362 (had to drop firewall to see image) WAR/1 WARD, Arthur, Oldham, 8d/1070 WARD, Arthur, Basford, 7b/207 Dec 1872 FOX/1 -- Mar 1873 FOX/1 -- (had to drop firewall to see image) Jun 1873 FOX/2 -- Sep 1873 FOX/1 -- Dec 1873 FOX/1 -- Mar 1874 FOX/2 -- Jun 1874 FOX/1 -- Sep 1874 FOX/1 -- Dec 1874 FOX/1 -- Mar 1875 FOX/1 -- Jun 1875 FOX/1 -- Sep 1875 FOX/1 -- Dec 1875 FOX/2 FOX, Phoeba, Weymouth, 5a/677 WAR/1 WARD, Arthur, Pwilheti(??), 11b/795 WARD, Arthur, Maldon, 4a/453 WARD, Arthur Cornwall, Kensington, 1a/39 WARD, Arthur Edward, St. Thomas, 5b/81 In other words, no luck yet on the marriage. 21/11/2004 Phoebe FOX mariage in Derby, Sep 1869 (vol 7B, page 605) (found on FreeBMD) No Arthur WARD marriage in same qtr/year according to FreeBMD (she may have married William COLLEDGE or Henry Walton Baker) Checked for Arthur WARD marriage in same qtr/year on 1837online to be sure. The only Arthur Ward in that qtr/year was married in Leicester, with different volume and page (7a/216). So Phoebe did not - we presume - marry Arthur then. Did she marry someone else? Is this the same Phoebe? Possible IGI entry for Hannah Fox <<91>> : IGI Individual Record FamilySearch International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Hannah Fox Female Event(s): Birth: 28 NOV 1848 Derby, Derby, England Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: John Fox Mother: Eliza Cooper Messages: Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter. Source Information: No source information is available. 1881 census information on mother Eliza <103> and sister Hannah <<91>>: Household: Name Relation M.Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Herbert PIPES Head M Male 37 Derby, Derby, England Pattern Maker (Iron) Hannah PIPES Wife M Female 33 Derby, Derby, England John G. PIPES Son Male 10 Derby, Derby, England Scholar Harry PIPES Son Male 8 Derby, Derby, England Scholar Joseph PIPES Son Male 7 Derby, Derby, England Scholar Herbert PIPES Son Male 5 Derby, Derby, England Scholar Arthur PIPES Son Male 4 Derby, Derby, England Scholar Eliza PIPES Daur Female 3 Derby, Derby, England Scholar James PIPES Son Male 1 Derby, Derby, England Eliza FOX Mother In Law W Female 70 Muggington, Derby, England Source Information: Dwelling 79 Watson St Census Place Derby St Alkmund, Derby, England Family History Library Film 1341815 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3406 / 54 Page Number 27 Hannah Pipes here is very likely daughter Hannah Fox <<91>>, aged 2 or 3 in 1851. Evidently Hannah married Herbert Pipes. /=============================================================================/ ID: <92> Status: D Name: \Matilda Cooper\ Gender: F Gen: -4 Position: 00001# Born: c1835-c1837, Muggington, Derby, Derbyshire c1835 according to death certificate and IGI christening [IGI] [death cert] c1837 according to 1851, 1861 and 1871 censuses [1851C] [1861C] [1871C] Married: ??? Died: 11/05/1872, Exchange, Nottinghamshire Partner: ??? Child: ??? Father: Possibly <102> Mother: <103> Sibling: \John Radford Cooper:c1830\ \Cyrus Cooper:c1834\ Phoebe Fox <91> and other half-siblings Notes: Researching Matilda has been something of a mystery, and at one point it was not clear if she was one Matilda Cooper/Fox (born c1835-c1837) or two Matilda's (one Matilda Cooper born c1835, the other Matilda Fox born c1837). The Matilda Fox's recorded in the 1851, 1861 and 1871 censuses all undoubtedly refer to the same Matilda Fox, and give a period of birth of c1837. The death certificate of 1872, stating the informant as John Bayley, almost certainly refers to the same John Bailey that the 1871 census listed as Matilda's employer. The other details - place and approximate time period, are also too coincidental to not be connected. The death certificate is there that of the same Matilda Fox that the censuses list, though the age implies a date of birth closer to c1835. The last piece of the puzzle is the IGI entry of Matilda Cooper's christening, in 1835. The name, mother and place link the entry to Matilda Fox, despite the mismatching surname. The answer lies in that she was born out of wedlock (considering Eliza Cooper <103> and John Fox <102> did not marry until 1854). While it is not clear whether Matilda is the daughter of John Fox, it _is_ clear that he took her under his wing as she had taken the surname Fox by 1851. Is is unclear what became of other illegitimate children of Eliza <103>, John Radford Cooper (c1830) and Cyrus Cooper (c1834). Again, we don't know who their fathers were. If they were John's children, no other record has been found of them. It is possible that they died young, or that they were given up to an orphanage, we simply don't know. Christening of Matilda Cooper (Fox) <92> : IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles MATILDA COOPER Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 04 OCT 1835 Mugginton, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Mother: ELIZA COOPER Family Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C055611 1813 - 1869 0498107 Film 6905255 Film Sheet: 00 Note that she is born out of wedlock and christened with the surname of her mother Eliza Cooper <103> It appears that in the 1851 census and later she takes the name Fox. If she is not the daughter of John Fox <102> (and we can't prove that she is) then he seemingly took her under his wing. 1851 census: Parish: Saint Werburgh Eccl district: Lichfield Borough: Derby Address: 7 Drury Lane County/Island: Derbyshire Source information: HO107/2143 Registration district: Derby Sub-registration district: St Peter ED, institution, or vessel: 3d Folio: 595 Page: 38 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 121 GSU Number: 87773-87774 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Fox M Head Mar 53 Labourer Derbyshire Radbourne abt 1798 John Fox <102> Eliza Fox F Wife Mar 41 Derbyshire Muggington abt 1810 Eliza Cooper <103> Matilda Fox F Daur U 14 Derbyshire Muggington abt 1837 Harriett Fox F Daur U 12 Derbyshire Muggington abt 1839 George Fox M Son U 8 Derby St Werburgh abt 1843 John Fox M Son U 4 Derby St Werburgh abt 1847 Hannah Fox F Daur U 2 (3?) Derby St Werburgh abt 1849 Note that at the time of the 1851 census in April 1851, Phoebe <91> was not born yet, and would not be born until July 1851. Note, however, the address: 7 Drury Lane, the same as where Phoebe was born and the residence of Eliza in July 1851 at the time of the birth. The census also records many of what would appear to be Phoebe's siblings. 1861 census: Parish: St Werburgh Munipal Borough: Derby Munipal Ward: Weckett (???) Parliamentary Borough: Derby Town: Derby Address: 7 Drury Lane Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Fox M Head Mar 65 Lobbing Labourer Derbysh Radbourne abt 1796 John Fox <102> Eliza Fox F Wife Mar 49 Derbysh Muggington abt 1812 Eliza Cooper <103> Matilda Fox F Daur Un 24 Silk Hand Derbysh Muggington abt 1837 John Fox M Son 14 Errand Boy Derbysh Derby abt 1847 Hannah Fox F Daur 12 Scholar Derbysh Derby abt 1849 Phoebe Fox F Daur 9 Scholar Derbysh Derby abt 1852 Phoebe Fox <91> 1871 census information on Matilda <<91>> : Civil Parish: St Peter Town: Nottingham County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Address: 6 Byard Lane, Bridlesmith Gate Source information: RG10/3523 Registration district: Nottingham Sub-registration district: Exchange ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Folio: 21 Page: 11 Household schedule number: 71 GSU Number: 839751 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Bailey M Head Unm 37 Glass & China Dealer Lincoln S; Kilby abt 1834 Matilda Fox F House Keeper Unm 33 House Keeper Derbyshire abt 1838 Matilda Fox <<91>> Sarah A Columbell F Boarder Unm 20 Tailoress Derbyshire abt 1851 Like her mother Eliza <103> and sister Phoebe <91>, after the death of father John Fox <102>, Matilda seems to have entered domestic service. Death certificate of Matilda Fox <92> : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Nottingham 1872 DEATH in the Sub-district of Exchange in the County of the Town of Nottingham No. When/where Name Sex Age Occupation Cause of death Informant When reg. Registrar 362 Eleventh May 1872 Matilda female 37 Domestic Servant Disease of Heart 2 years X The mark of Fourteenth William Marriot 6 Dining(?) Hall Street Fox years Bronchitis 4 weeks John Bayley May 1872 Registrar Certified present at the death 6 Dining(?) Hall Street Nottingham ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Note how the death occurs only a year after the 1871 census. It occurs in the same registration district as the census for Matilda, and the informant is one John Bayley, very likely to be the same John Bailey who was Matilda's employee in 1871. IGI records for what appear to be at least half-sisters of Phoebe <91> and Matilda <92> by Eliza Cooper <103> : IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles JOHN RADFORD COOPER Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 31 JAN 1830 Mugginton, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Mother: ELIZA COOPER Family Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C055611 1813 - 1869 0498107 Film 6905255 Film Sheet: 00 IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles CYRUS COOPER Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 08 JUN 1834 Mugginton, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Mother: ELIZA COOPER Family Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C055611 1813 - 1869 0498107 Film 6905255 Film Sheet: 00 What became of John Radford Cooper and Cyrus Cooper we don't know. /=============================================================================/ ID: <93> Status: D Name: \John Wilson\ Gender: M Gen: -6 Position: 0110010 Born: ??? Married: 1820, Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire [IGI] (Unconfirmed) Died: ??? Partner: <94> Child: <55> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: IGI christening of Hannah <55> : HANNAH WILSON Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 31 DEC 1820 Hunslet, Yorkshire, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN WILSON Mother: SUSANNA Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C009612 1813 - 1837 0918397 Film 6909754 Film Sheet: 00 Item 1 Bishop's transcripts, 1813-1843 Church of England. Chapelry of Hunslet (Yorkshire) Item 2 Bishop's transcripts, 1829-1854 Church of England. Chapelry of Kirkstall (Yorkshire) Is this John and Susanna's marriage? JOHN WILSON Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: SUSANNA BRIGGS Marriage: 06 JAN 1820 Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M071932 1820 - 1825 0918382 Film 6900089 Film M071932 1820 - 1825 0918382 Film NONE M071932 1820 - 1825 0918383 Film NONE Sheet: 00 0918382 - Bishop's transcripts, 1631-1837 Church of England. St. Peter's Church (Leeds, Yorkshire) 0918383 - Bishop's transcripts, 1631-1837 Church of England. St. Peter's Church (Leeds, Yorkshire) /=============================================================================/ ID: <94> Status: D Name: \Susanna ?\ Gender: F Gen: -6 Position: 0110011 Born: ??? Married: 1820, Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire [IGI] (Unconfirmed) Died: ??? Partner: <93> Child: <55> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: IGI christening of Hannah <55> : HANNAH WILSON Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 31 DEC 1820 Hunslet, Yorkshire, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN WILSON Mother: SUSANNA Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C009612 1813 - 1837 0918397 Film 6909754 Film Sheet: 00 Item 1 Bishop's transcripts, 1813-1843 Church of England. Chapelry of Hunslet (Yorkshire) Item 2 Bishop's transcripts, 1829-1854 Church of England. Chapelry of Kirkstall (Yorkshire) Is this John and Susanna's marriage? JOHN WILSON Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: SUSANNA BRIGGS Marriage: 06 JAN 1820 Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M071932 1820 - 1825 0918382 Film 6900089 Film M071932 1820 - 1825 0918382 Film NONE M071932 1820 - 1825 0918383 Film NONE Sheet: 00 0918382 - Bishop's transcripts, 1631-1837 Church of England. St. Peter's Church (Leeds, Yorkshire) 0918383 - Bishop's transcripts, 1631-1837 Church of England. St. Peter's Church (Leeds, Yorkshire) /=============================================================================/ ID: <95> Status: D Name: \Thomas Michell\ Gender: M Gen: -6 Position: 0101000 Born: 31/05/1772, Cornwall [Greville] Married: ??? Died: 12/12/1845 [Greville] Partner: ??? Child: <88> Father: <117> Mother: <118> Sibling: \John Michell:1769:1845\, born December 1769; died 02/12/1845 [grev] \Stephen Michell:1775:1784\, born 01/11/1775; died 23/06/1784 [grev] \Theophilus Michell:1778:1780\, born 13/07/1778; died 08/10/1780 [grev] \Theophilus Michell:1782:1854\, born 23/02/1782; died 13/07/1854 [grev] Married \Jane ____:c1783:1870\ Jane born c1783; died 16/09/1870 Notes: /=============================================================================/ ID: <96> Status: D Name: \Henry Love\ Gender: M Gen: -5 Position: 010110 Born: c1818, Penzance, Cornwall [Greville] Married: ??? Died: ??? Partner: <97> Child: <87> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: 1881 census: Name Relation M.Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Henry LOVE Head M Male 63 Penzance, Cornwall, England Retired Master Mariner Lodging House Keeper Amelia LOVE Wife M Female 53 Calstock, Cornwall, England William J. LOVE Son U Male 20 Penzance, Cornwall, England Civil Engineer Apprentice Mary KING Lodger W Female 67 Gulval, Cornwall, England Annuitant Source Information: Dwelling 18 Cornwall Terrace Census Place Madron - Penzance, Cornwall, England Family History Library Film 1341564 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2347 / 15 Page Number 23 www.familyhistoryonline.net - Cornwall 1881 Census (03/05/2004) : 1. Name Henry LOVE Relationship Head Condition M Gender M Age 63 Occupation Retired Master Mariner Lodging House Keeper Birthplace Penzance, Cornwall, England Address 18 Cornwall Terrace, Madron - Penzance, Cornwall, England PRO ref RG11/2347 Folio 15 Page 23 FHL film no. 1341564 2. Name Amelia LOVE Relationship Wife Condition M Gender F Age 53 Occupation – Birthplace Calstock, Cornwall, England Address 18 Cornwall Terrace, Madron - Penzance, Cornwall, England PRO ref RG11/2347 Folio 15 Page 23 FHL film no. 1341564 3. Name William J. LOVE Relationship Son Condition U Gender M Age 20 Occupation Civil Engineer Apprentice Birthplace Penzance, Cornwall, England Address 18 Cornwall Terrace, Madron - Penzance, Cornwall, England PRO ref RG11/2347 Folio 15 Page 23 FHL film no. 1341564 4. Name Mary KING Relationship Lodger Condition W Gender F Age 67 Occupation Annuitant Birthplace Gulval, Cornwall, England Address 18 Cornwall Terrace, Madron - Penzance, Cornwall, England PRO ref RG11/2347 Folio 15 Page 23 FHL film no. 1341564 /=============================================================================/ ID: <97> Status: D Name: \Amelia Davey\ Gender: F Gen: -5 Position: 010111 Born: c1828, Calstock, Cornwall [Greville] Married: ??? Died: ??? Partner: <96> Child: <87> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: 1891 Census: Civil parish: Phillack Urban Sanitary District: Phillack Ecclesiastical parish: St Elwyn County: Cornwall Street address: Commercial Rd Source information: RG12/1852 Registration district: Redruth Sub registration district: Phillack ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Folio: 26 Page: 15 Stephen Michell Head M 41 Accountant Cornwall St. Day Annie L.(S.?) Michell Wife M 39 -- Cornwall Penzance Stephen H. Michell Son 11 Scholar Cornwall Penzance Alice P. Michell Daur 10 Scholar Cornwall Penzance William L.(S?) Michell Son 9 Scholar Cornwall Hayle Thomas L.(S? J?) Michell Son 8 Scholar Cornwall Hayle Sidney L.(?) Michell Son 6 Scholar Cornwall Hayle Violet E.(?) Michell Daur 4 -- Cornwall Hayle Amelia Love Mother in Law Wid 63 Living on her means Cornwall Calstock Elizabeth Hic[kh]in Serv S 20 General Servant Domestic Cornwall Phillack 1881 census: Name Relation M.Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Henry LOVE Head M Male 63 Penzance, Cornwall, England Retired Master Mariner Lodging House Keeper Amelia LOVE Wife M Female 53 Calstock, Cornwall, England William J. LOVE Son U Male 20 Penzance, Cornwall, England Civil Engineer Apprentice Mary KING Lodger W Female 67 Gulval, Cornwall, England Annuitant Source Information: Dwelling 18 Cornwall Terrace Census Place Madron - Penzance, Cornwall, England Family History Library Film 1341564 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2347 / 15 Page Number 23 www.familyhistoryonline.net - Cornwall 1881 Census (03/05/2004) : 1. Name Henry LOVE Relationship Head Condition M Gender M Age 63 Occupation Retired Master Mariner Lodging House Keeper Birthplace Penzance, Cornwall, England Address 18 Cornwall Terrace, Madron - Penzance, Cornwall, England PRO ref RG11/2347 Folio 15 Page 23 FHL film no. 1341564 2. Name Amelia LOVE Relationship Wife Condition M Gender F Age 53 Occupation – Birthplace Calstock, Cornwall, England Address 18 Cornwall Terrace, Madron - Penzance, Cornwall, England PRO ref RG11/2347 Folio 15 Page 23 FHL film no. 1341564 3. Name William J. LOVE Relationship Son Condition U Gender M Age 20 Occupation Civil Engineer Apprentice Birthplace Penzance, Cornwall, England Address 18 Cornwall Terrace, Madron - Penzance, Cornwall, England PRO ref RG11/2347 Folio 15 Page 23 FHL film no. 1341564 4. Name Mary KING Relationship Lodger Condition W Gender F Age 67 Occupation Annuitant Birthplace Gulval, Cornwall, England Address 18 Cornwall Terrace, Madron - Penzance, Cornwall, England PRO ref RG11/2347 Folio 15 Page 23 FHL film no. 1341564 /=============================================================================/ ID: <98> Status: D Name: \Beatrice Maud Hawley\ Gender: F Gen: -3 Position: 0110* Born: ??? Married: 16/06/1917, Wolverhampton [grev??] Died: ??? Partner: <30> Child: <99> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: On 14/01/2004, on Hugh Knaptons advice, I ordered the birth certificate of a Dennis Marshall Knapton, born 1921. Registration district North Bierley 1921 birth in the sub-disrtrict of Pudsey in the county of Yorks (W.R.) Name: Dennis Marshall Born: First July 1921 (the word Eleventh was written, but crossed out, and there is also the number 10 seems to have been written between the word First and the crossed out Eleventh, whatever that may mean) 39 New Street, Pudsey Sex: Boy Father: Harry Knapton, Draughtsman (Electrical Engineer) Mother: Beatrice Maud Knapton formerly Hawley Informant: Harry Knapton, Father, 36 New Street, Pudsey (note the different house number to where Dennis was born, they definitely say 39 and 36 respectively) Registered: Eleventh July 1921 Registrar: H.Halliday, deputy registrar (*all* other certs I've seen have said 'Registrar' rather than 'Deputy', so this is interesting in itself to me :o) I immediately noticed Harry and Beatrice Knapton here and wondered if he was related to the Harry Knapton in my tree. At first I discounted it, but then realised two things: (i) the name Marshall would be something of a coincidence, and (ii) that Beatrice May Phillips, my great-grandmother and wife of my Harry Knapton, died in 1912. That means that Harry could easily have re-married to Beatrice Maud Hawley by 1921. I also know from Harry's marriage to my great-grandmother that he was a draughtsman. He didn't die until 1953. I also know he had a prediliction for 'Beatrice M's - he married Beatrice May Phillips in 1911, and named my grandmother Beatrice Margaret. It wouldn't surprise me if he later re-married a Beatrice Maud... There seem to be too many coincidences here to write off - Dennis could be my grandmothers half-brother! Greville: I saw my grandfather Harry on only a few occasions. I remember him visiting his sisters on one occasion, but he lived in Aston, Birmingham, with his second wife Beatrice Maud Hanley, where he had an engineering business, and we visited I suppose a couple of times from Rushden and slept on a mattress on the floor in the bedrooms over the shop. (Funny how Harry seemed to like the name 'Beatrice M' !!). Actually, I'm pretty sure her name was Hawley, not Hanley. Grevilles' tree says Beatrice Hawley was born c.1885, in (Birmingham?). Births search for Beatrice Maud Hawley c.1885 (23/01/2004) : Mar 1883 HAW/3 (no Beatrice) Jun 1883 HAW/2 (no Beatrice) Sep 1883 HAW/2 (no Beatrice) Dec 1883 HAW/2 HAWLEY, Beatrice Ellen, Coventry, 6d/506 (FREEBMD: HAWLEY Beatrice Ellen Coventry 6d 505 I think FreeBMD is wrong - it looks definitely like a 506 to me.) Mar 1884 HAW/2 (no Beatrice) Jun 1884 HAW/2 HAWLEY, Beatrice, Walsall, 6b/745[746?] Sep 1884 HAW/2 (no Beatrice) Dec 1884 HAW/2 (no Beatrice) Mar 1885 HAW/3 (no Beatrice) Jun 1885 HAW/2 (no Beatrice) Sep 1885 HAW/2 HAWLEY, Beatrice, Chorlton, 8c/724 HAWLEY, Beatrice, Ecclesall B., 9o[c?]/307 Dec 1885 HAW/2 (no Beatrice) Mar 1886 HAW/2 (no Beatrice) Jun 1886 HAW/2 HAWLEY, Beatrice, Wortley, 9o[c?]/297 Sep 1886 HAW/2 (no Beatrice) Dec 1886 HAW/2 (no Beatrice) Mar 1887 HAW/2 (no Beatrice) Jun 1887 HAW/2 (no Beatrice) Sep 1887 HAW/2 (no Beatrice) Dec 1887 HAW/2 (no Beatrice) Marriages search for Harry Knapton <30> and Beatrice Maud Hawley <98> (23/01/2004) : Mar 1917 KNA/1 (no Harry) Jun 1917 KNA/1 KNAPTON, Harry, HAWLEY, Wolverhampton, 6b/981 HAW/3 HAWLEY, Beatrice M, KNAPTON, Wolverhampton, 6b/981 Sep 1917 ???????????????????????????????????? Dec 1917 KNA/1 (no Harry) Mar 1918 KNA/1 (no Harry) Jun 1918 KNA/1 (no Harry) Sep 1918 KNA/1 (no Harry) Dec 1918 KNA/1 (no Harry) Mar 1919 KNA/1 (no Harry) Jun 1919 KNA/1 (no Harry) Sep 1919 KNA/1 (no Harry) Dec 1919 KNA/1 (no Harry) Mar 1920 KNA/1 KNAPTON, Harry, REDFEARN, Huddersfield, 9a/664 Jun 1920 KNA/1 (no Harry) Sep 1920 KNA/1 KNAPTON, Harry E., TOPE, Devonport, 5b/854 Dec 1920 KNA/2 (no Harry) Mar 1921 KNA/2 (no Harry) Jun 1921 KNA/1 (no Harry) Sep 1921 KNA/1 (no Harry) Dec 1921 KNA/1 (no Harry) Mar 1922 KNA/1 (no Harry) GRO marriage index: Quarter: Jun 1917 Grooms Name: Harry Knapton <30> Brides Name: Beatrice M. Hawley <98> District: Wolverhampton Vol/Page: 6b/981 Researched: 23/01/2004, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 23/01/2004 ???????? England and Wales, Civil Registration Index Name Year Quarter Record Type County Volume Page HAWLEY, Maud Beatrice 1876 June Births Sussex 2b 260 Hawley, Maud Beatrice 1899 June Marriages Middlesex 3a 195 ???????? /=============================================================================/ ID: <99> Status: D Name: \Dennis Marshall Knapton\ Gender: M Gen: -2 Position: 0110*^ Born: 01/07/1921, 39 New Street, Pudsey, Yorkshire Married: ??? Died: September 1993, Bridlington district Partner: \Peggy BOX:c1921\ (no details - assuming born c.1921) Child: 1. \Sylvia Eileen KNAPTON:1947\, born 19-???-1947 (month unknown) 2. \Joyce Elizabeth KNAPTON:1949\, born 15-NOV-1949 3. \Graham Marshall KNAPTON:1952\, born 18-MAY-1952 Father: <30> Mother: <98> Sibling: Half-sister: Beatrice Margaret Knapton <8> 1. \Sylvia Millicent KNAPTON:1918\, born 1918 Married: \William George Norman LESTER:c1918\ (no details - assumed born c.1918) Married in 1942 Children: 1. \Sally Joyce LESTER:1945\, born 12-OCT-1945 Sally was bridesmaid in wedding between Diane Watson <4> and David Ward <3> 2. \Robert William LESTER:1948\, born 20-MAY-1948 3. \Phyllis Muriel KNAPTON:1923\, born 02/06/1923 Married: \Norman EDDINS:c1923\ (no details - guessing also c.1923) Married in 1945 Died: June 1987, district of Coventry Children: 1. \Judith Susan EDDINS:1946\, born 18-OCT-1946 2. \Pauline EDDINS:1949\, born 20-JAN-1949 Notes: On 14/01/2004, on Hugh Knaptons advice, I ordered the birth certificate of a Dennis Marshall Knapton, born 1921. Registration district North Bierley 1921 birth in the sub-disrtrict of Pudsey in the county of Yorks (W.R.) Name: Dennis Marshall Born: First July 1921 (the word Eleventh was written, but crossed out, and there is also the number 10 seems to have been written between the word First and the crossed out Eleventh, whatever that may mean) 39 New Street, Pudsey Sex: Boy Father: Harry Knapton, Draughtsman (Electrical Engineer) Mother: Beatrice Maud Knapton formerly Hawley Informant: Harry Knapton, Father, 36 New Street, Pudsey (note the different house number to where Dennis was born, they definitely say 39 and 36 respectively) Registered: Eleventh July 1921 Registrar: H.Halliday, deputy registrar (*all* other certs I've seen have said 'Registrar' rather than 'Deputy', so this is interesting in itself to me :o) I immediately noticed Harry and Beatrice Knapton here and wondered if he was related to the Harry Knapton in my tree. At first I discounted it, but then realised two things: (i) the name Marshall would be something of a coincidence, and (ii) that Beatrice May Phillips, my great-grandmother and wife of my Harry Knapton, died in 1912. That means that Harry could easily have re-married to Beatrice Maud Hawley by 1921. I also know from Harry's marriage to my great-grandmother that he was a draughtsman. He didn't die until 1953. I also know he had a prediliction for 'Beatrice M's - he married Beatrice May Phillips in 1911, and named my grandmother Beatrice Margaret. It wouldn't surprise me if he later re-married a Beatrice Maud... There seem to be too many coincidences here to write off - Dennis could be my grandmothers half-brother! GRO birth index: Quarter: Sep 1921 Name: Dennis M. Knapton Mothers maiden name: Hawley District: N.Bierley Vol/Page: 9b/133 Researched: 14/01/2004, 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 14/01/2004; Received 23/01/2004 Dennis Marshall Knaptons birth certificate: ---- REGISTRATION DISTRICT North Bierley 1921 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Pudsey in the County of Yorks (W.R.) No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registar 379 First Dennis Boy Harry Beatrice Draughtsman Harry Knapton Eleventh H.Halliday July 1921 Marshall Knapton Maud (Electrical Engineer) Father July 1921 Deputy 39 New Street Knapton 36 New Street Pudsey formerly Pudsey Hawley ---- Dennis Marshall Knaptons death reference (1837online.com, 26/01/2004): Name KNAPTON, DENNIS MARSHALL Date of Birth 1 July 1921 Registration District BRIDLINGTON Year of Registration 1993 Month of Registration September District No 5441 Reg No 32A Ent No 235 Dor 993 -- Greville (26/01/2004): Hi Ian I didn't realise that you didn't know about Beatrice Maud Hanley (or is it Hawley?). I remember I mentioned Harry's apparent predilection to Beatrice M's in an email a while back - thinking that you knew of the third occurrence. Dennis Marshall is definitely their son!! They also had two daughters -- Sylvia (Millicent, I think). The other daughter's name escapes me for the moment, but I'll let you know soonest. Will be in touch Greville -- Karen (26/01/2004): Not heard of Dennis Marshall Knapton but did u know about Sylvia Knapton? Luv karen x - Nanna definitely had half sister called Sylvia ? Knapton/Lester who had daughter called Sally Lester who was mum + dads bridesmaid at their wedding - Sylvia did die b4 nanna but don't know when -- Greville (26/01/2004): 1. Sylvia Millicent KNAPTON, born 1918 Married: William George Norman LESTER (no details - assumed born c.1918) Children: 1. Sally Joyce LESTER, born 12-OCT-1945 2. Robert William LESTER, born 20-MAY-1948 2. Dennis Marshall KNAPTON, born 1921 (according to you) Married: Peggy BOX (no details - assuming born c.1921) Children: 1. Sylvia Eileen KNAPTON, born 19-???-1947 (month unknown) 2. Joyce Elizabeth KNAPTON, born 15-NOV-1949 3. Graham Marshall KNAPTON, born 18-MAY-1952 3. Phyllis Muriel KNAPTON, (guessing born c.1923) Married: Norman EDDINNS (no details - guessing also c.1923) Children: 1. Judith Susan EDDINNS, born 18-OCT-1946 2. Pauline EDDINNS, born 20-JAN-1949 I've put [in genesconnected] Birmingham as the place of birth for all of them -- but I really don't know. Either Dennis or Phyllis was in the forces (Army, I think) and I believe was stationed in Germany for a time, so Birmingham is likely to be pretty arbitary. -- England and Wales Civil Registration Death Index (ancestry.co.uk) Name Death Registration Month/Year Age Birth Date District Inferred County MARGARET BEATRICE WATSON 04/01 4 Dec 1912 North Yorkshire North Yorkshire DENNIS MARSHALL KNAPTON 09/93 1 Jul 1921 Bridlington Humberside PHYLLIS MURIEL EDDINS 6/87 64 2 JUN 1923 Coventry West Midlands Name: MARGARET BEATRICE WATSON Death Year: 2001 Death Registration Month/Year: 04/01 Birth Date: 4 Dec 1912 Registration District: North Yorkshire Inferred County: North Yorkshire Register Number: Q2 Entry number: 60 Name: DENNIS MARSHALL KNAPTON Death Year: 1993 Death Registration Month/Year: 09/93 Birth Date: 1 Jul 1921 Registration District: Bridlington Inferred County: Humberside Register Number: 32A Entry number: 235 Name: PHYLLIS MURIEL EDDINS Death Registration Month/Year: 6/87 Age: 64 Birth Date: 2 JUN 1923 District: Coventry Inferred County: West Midlands Volume: 87 Page: 33 -- Greville (27/01/2004): Other information from 1837online with District/Volume/Page is: Sylvia M KNAPTON born 1st Qtr 1918 (Wolverhampton, 6b 841) Of course - she could be still alive. I wrote to an address of a nursing home that was on a letter that was in Nanna's effects when she died, but I got no reply. Sylvia M KNAPTON married W.G.N.LESTER, 1Q 1942, Birmingham 6d 520 Sally J LESTER born 1945, Birmingham 6d 246 Robert W LESTER born 1948, Birmingham 9c 461 Dennis M KNAPTON married BOX, 3Q 1945, Birmingham 6d 154 Sylvia E KNAPTON birth reg. 4Q 1947, Rother V. 2c 1044 Joyce E KNAPTON born 1949, Doncaster 2b 498 Graham M KNAPTON born 1952, Warwick 9c 1605 Phyllis M KNAPTON birth reg. 2Q 1923, N.Bierley 9b 128 Phyllis M KNAPTON married N.EDDINS, 2Q 1945, Birmingham 6d 637 Judith S EDDINS born 1946, Birmingham 9c 732 Pauline J EDDINS born 1949, Birmingham 9c 605 -- /=============================================================================/ ID: <100> Status: D Name: \Mark Garratt\ Gender: M Gen: -5 Position: 001110 Born: c1811, Netherton, Worcester, England [1881C,1851C] Married: ??? Died: Possibly between 1881-1891 ? Partner: <101> Child: <53> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: Named in the marriage certificate of James Cooper <52> and Elizabeth Garratt <53> as the father of the bride. Occupation is stated as Furnace Man (in 1873). In 1841: Civil parish: Dudley Hundred: Halfshire (Lower Division) County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street address: Upper Netherton Source information: HO107/1196/18 Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Dudley ED, institution, or vessel: 39 Folio: 25 Page: 23 Line number: 12 GSU Number: 464207 Name MF Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Garratt M 25-29 Furnaceman Y abt 1814 Mark Garratt <100> Elizabeth Garratt F 20-24 Y abt 1819 Elizabeth Stevens <101> Samuel Garratt M 3 Y abt 1838 Mark Garratt M 3 days Y 1841 In 1851: Civil parish: Dudley Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Upper Netherton Source information: HO107/2033 Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Dudley ED, institution, or vessel: 1ii Folio: 395 Page: 20 Household schedule number: 70 GSU Number: 87440 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Garratt M Head Mar 40 Labourer Netherton, Worcestershire abt 1811 Mark Garratt <100> Elizabeth Garratt F Wife Mar 33 Labourer Wife Netherton, Worcestershire abt 1818 Elizabeth Stevens <101> Mary Ann Garratt F Daur U 15 Labourer Daur Netherton, Worcestershire abt 1836 Samuel Garratt M Son U 12 Labourer Son Netherton, Worcestershire abt 1839 Mark Garratt M Son U 10 Labourer Son Netherton, Worcestershire abt 1841 Fanny Garratt F Daur U 7 Labourer Daur Netherton, Worcestershire abt 1844 William Garratt M Son U 4 Labourer Son Netherton, Worcestershire abt 1847 Shale Garratt M Son U 2 Labourer Son Netherton, Worcestershire abt 1849 In 1861: Civil parish: Dudley Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew Town: Dudley County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street address: Croft, Netherton Hall Source information: RG9/2061 Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Dudley ED, institution, or vessel: 41 Folio: 43 Page: 26 Household schedule number: 129 GSU Number: 542911 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Garratt M Head Mar 50 Labourer Worcestershire, Netherton, Dudley abt 1811 Mark Garratt <100> Betsy Garratt F Wife Mar 43 Worcestershire, Netherton, Dudley abt 1818 Elizabeth Stevens <101> Fanny Garratt F Daur U 17 Worcestershire, Netherton, Dudley abt 1844 William Garratt M Son U 14 Coal Miner Worcestershire, Netherton, Dudley abt 1847 Shelah Garratt M Son 12 Cripple Worcestershire, Netherton, Dudley abt 1849 Elizabeth Garratt F Daughter 9 Nailer Worcestershire, Netherton, Dudley abt 1852 Elizabeth Garratt <53> Hannah Garratt F Daughter 4 Scholar Worcestershire, Netherton, Dudley abt 1857 Benjamin Garratt M Son 4 Scholar Worcestershire, Netherton, Dudley abt 1857 In 1871: Civil Parish: Dudley Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street address: 2 Hurleys Fold Source information: RG10/3016 Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Dudley ED, institution, or vessel: 41 Folio: 98 Page: 38 Household schedule number: 187 GSU Number: 838861 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Garratt M Head Marr 59 Furnaceman Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1812 Mark Garratt <100> Elizabeth Garratt F Wife Marr 54 Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1817 Elizabeth Stevens <101> Elizabeth Garratt F Daur Unm 19 Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1852 Elizabeth Garratt <53> Hannah Garratt F Daur Unm 17 Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1854 Benjamin Garratt M Son Unm 14 Furnaceman Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1857 Thomas France M Lodger Mar 28 Furnaceman Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1843 Fanny France F Wife Mar 27 Nailer Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1844 Thomas France M Son 6 Scholar Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1869 Emily France F Daur 4 Scholar Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1867 Harriet France F Daur 2 Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1869 1881: Household: Name Relation M.Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Mark GARRATT Head M Male 70 Netherton, Worcester, England Pauper Elizabeth GARRATT Wife M Female 65 Netherton, Worcester, England Joseph DERGRAGE Lodger U Male 40 Netherton, Worcester, England General Labourer Source Information: Dwelling Hurleys Fold Census PlaceDudley, Worcester, England Family History Library Film 1341691 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2881 / 95 Page Number 52 This would be consistent with Mark <100> not being recorded as deceased on Elizabath Garratt <53>'s marriage certificate of 1873. Could not find Mark Garratt <100> aged approx. 80 in 1891 census. Therefore did he die between 1881 and 1891? Is this Mark <100> and Elizabeth <101> ? MARK GARRATT Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: ELIZABETH STEVENS Marriage: 11 APR 1836 Kingswinford, Stafford, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M053731 1813 - 1822 0435778 Film 6903881 Film M053731 1822 - 1837 0435779 Film NONE Sheet: 00 IGI: MARK GARROTT Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 10 FEB 1811 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: SHELAH GARROTT Mother: ELIZTH. Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C040142 1797 - 1812 0378764 Film 6901851 Film Sheet: 00 ...with probable siblings... HANNAH GARRATT Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 22 DEC 1805 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: SHELAH GARRATT Mother: ELIZTH. Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C040142 1797 - 1812 0378764 Film 6901851 Film Sheet: 00 WILLM. GARRATT Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 02 AUG 1807 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: SHELAH GARRATT Mother: ELIZTH. Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C040142 1797 - 1812 0378764 Film 6901851 Film Sheet: 00 JOHN GARRATT Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 04 JUN 1809 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: SHELAH GARRATT Mother: ELIZTH. Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C040142 1797 - 1812 0378764 Film 6901851 Film Sheet: 00 LUKE GARRATT Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 18 OCT 1812 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: SHELAH GARRATT Mother: ELIZTH. Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C040142 1797 - 1812 0378764 Film 6901851 Film Sheet: 00 Name Christening Christening location HANNAH GARRATT 22 DEC 1805 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England WILLM. GARRATT 02 AUG 1807 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England JOHN GARRATT 04 JUN 1809 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England * MARK GARROTT 10 FEB 1811 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England * LUKE GARRATT 18 OCT 1812 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England Shelah Garratt Male Event(s): Birth: About 1780 Of Dudley, , Warwick, England Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: Elizabeth Barnett Marriage: 18 MAY 1805 Messages: Record submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The record often shows the name of the individual and his or her relationship to a descendant, shown as the heir, family representative, or relative. The original records are not indexed, and you may have to look at the film frame-by-frame to find the information you want. A family group record for this couple may be in the Family Group Record Collection; Archive Section. (See the Family History Library Catalog for the film number.) These records are alphabetical by name of the father or husband. Source Information: Film Number: 447935 Page Number: Reference number: 65351 SHELAH GARRATT Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: ELIZABETH BARNETT Marriage: 19 MAY 1805 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M040144 1763 - 1791 0378762 Film 6901192 Film M040144 1791 - 1808 0378763 Film NONE M040144 1808 - 1812 0378764 Film NONE M040144 1813 - 1818 0378765 Film NONE M040144 1818 - 1823 0378766 Film NONE M040144 1823 - 1826 0378767 Film NONE M040144 1826 - 1829 0378768 Film NONE M040144 1829 - 1832 0378769 Film NONE M040144 1832 - 1834 0378770 Film NONE Sheet: 00 /=============================================================================/ ID: <101> Status: D Name: \Elizabeth Stevens\ Gender: M Gen: -5 Position: 001111 Born: c1818, Netherton, Worcester, England [1881C,1851C] Married: ??? Died: 1884, Dudley district [FreeBMD] ? Partner: <100> Child: <53> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: In 1841: Civil parish: Dudley Hundred: Halfshire (Lower Division) County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street address: Upper Netherton Source information: HO107/1196/18 Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Dudley ED, institution, or vessel: 39 Folio: 25 Page: 23 Line number: 12 GSU Number: 464207 Name MF Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Garratt M 25-29 Furnaceman Y abt 1814 Mark Garratt <100> Elizabeth Garratt F 20-24 Y abt 1819 Elizabeth Stevens <101> Samuel Garratt M 3 Y abt 1838 Mark Garratt M 3 days Y 1841 In 1851: Civil parish: Dudley Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Upper Netherton Source information: HO107/2033 Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Dudley ED, institution, or vessel: 1ii Folio: 395 Page: 20 Household schedule number: 70 GSU Number: 87440 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Garratt M Head Mar 40 Labourer Netherton, Worcestershire abt 1811 Mark Garratt <100> Elizabeth Garratt F Wife Mar 33 Labourer Wife Netherton, Worcestershire abt 1818 Elizabeth Stevens <101> Mary Ann Garratt F Daur U 15 Labourer Daur Netherton, Worcestershire abt 1836 Samuel Garratt M Son U 12 Labourer Son Netherton, Worcestershire abt 1839 Mark Garratt M Son U 10 Labourer Son Netherton, Worcestershire abt 1841 Fanny Garratt F Daur U 7 Labourer Daur Netherton, Worcestershire abt 1844 William Garratt M Son U 4 Labourer Son Netherton, Worcestershire abt 1847 Shale Garratt M Son U 2 Labourer Son Netherton, Worcestershire abt 1849 In 1861: Civil parish: Dudley Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew Town: Dudley County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street address: Croft, Netherton Hall Source information: RG9/2061 Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Dudley ED, institution, or vessel: 41 Folio: 43 Page: 26 Household schedule number: 129 GSU Number: 542911 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Garratt M Head Mar 50 Labourer Worcestershire, Netherton, Dudley abt 1811 Mark Garratt <100> Betsy Garratt F Wife Mar 43 Worcestershire, Netherton, Dudley abt 1818 Elizabeth Stevens <101> Fanny Garratt F Daur U 17 Worcestershire, Netherton, Dudley abt 1844 William Garratt M Son U 14 Coal Miner Worcestershire, Netherton, Dudley abt 1847 Shelah Garratt M Son 12 Cripple Worcestershire, Netherton, Dudley abt 1849 Elizabeth Garratt F Daughter 9 Nailer Worcestershire, Netherton, Dudley abt 1852 Elizabeth Garratt <53> Hannah Garratt F Daughter 4 Scholar Worcestershire, Netherton, Dudley abt 1857 Benjamin Garratt M Son 4 Scholar Worcestershire, Netherton, Dudley abt 1857 In 1871: Civil Parish: Dudley Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street address: 2 Hurleys Fold Source information: RG10/3016 Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Dudley ED, institution, or vessel: 41 Folio: 98 Page: 38 Household schedule number: 187 GSU Number: 838861 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Garratt M Head Marr 59 Furnaceman Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1812 Mark Garratt <100> Elizabeth Garratt F Wife Marr 54 Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1817 Elizabeth Stevens <101> Elizabeth Garratt F Daur Unm 19 Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1852 Elizabeth Garratt <53> Hannah Garratt F Daur Unm 17 Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1854 Benjamin Garratt M Son Unm 14 Furnaceman Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1857 Thomas France M Lodger Mar 28 Furnaceman Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1843 Fanny France F Wife Mar 27 Nailer Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1844 Thomas France M Son 6 Scholar Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1869 Emily France F Daur 4 Scholar Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1867 Harriet France F Daur 2 Netherton, Dudley, Worcester abt 1869 1881: Household: Name Relation M.Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Mark GARRATT Head M Male 70 Netherton, Worcester, England Pauper Elizabeth GARRATT Wife M Female 65 Netherton, Worcester, England Joseph DERGRAGE Lodger U Male 40 Netherton, Worcester, England General Labourer Source Information: Dwelling Hurleys Fold Census PlaceDudley, Worcester, England Family History Library Film 1341691 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2881 / 95 Page Number 52 Could not find Elizabeth Garratt (Stevens) <101> aged approx. 75 in Worcestersahire in 1891 census. Therefore did she die between 1881 and 1891? Is this Mark <100> and Elizabeth <101> ? MARK GARRATT Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: ELIZABETH STEVENS Marriage: 11 APR 1836 Kingswinford, Stafford, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M053731 1813 - 1822 0435778 Film 6903881 Film M053731 1822 - 1837 0435779 Film NONE Sheet: 00 FreeBMD search for Elizabeth Garratt (Stevens) <101> death between Mar 1881 and Dec 1891 : Deaths Dec 1884 GARRATT Elizabeth 68 Dudley 6c 85 No other search result gave an age of death consistent with the 1881 census. As a bonus, it's also in Dudley, Worcestershire. :o) Is this IGI record Elizabeth <101> ? : ELIZTH. STEVENS Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 13 JUN 1819 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JAS. STEVENS Mother: ANN Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C040143 1813 - 1820 0378765 Film 6901851 Film C040143 1820 - 1823 0378766 Film NONE C040143 1823 - 1825 0378767 Film NONE Sheet: 00 "Jas." may be short for James. An IGI "parent search" pulled up many "James Steven"s when searched for "Jas. Stevens". Is this IGI record her twin? : (Note: born 1816, x-ened 1819, therefore Eliz. above also x-ened 1819 could have been born in 1816 also.) HENRY STEVENS Male Event(s): Birth: 17 NOV 1816 Christening: 13 JUN 1819 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England Death: 12 SEP 1819 Burial: Parents: Father: JAMES STEVENS Mother: ANN Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C040143 1813 - 1820 0378765 Film 6901851 Film C040143 1820 - 1823 0378766 Film NONE C040143 1823 - 1825 0378767 Film NONE Sheet: 00 Other possible siblings: WILLM. STEEVENS Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 31 JUL 1814 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JAMES STEEVENS Mother: ANN Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C040143 1813 - 1820 0378765 Film 6901851 Film C040143 1820 - 1823 0378766 Film NONE C040143 1823 - 1825 0378767 Film NONE Sheet: 00 THOS. STEVENS Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 10 DEC 1826 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JAMES STEVENS Mother: ANN Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C040144 1825 - 1828 0378767 Film 6901851 Film C040144 1828 - 1833 0378769 Film NONE C040144 1833 0378770 Film NONE Sheet: 00 ANN STEVENS Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 21 AUG 1825 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England Death: 05 FEB 1826 Burial: Parents: Father: JAMES STEVENS Mother: ANN Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C040144 1825 - 1828 0378767 Film 6901851 Film C040144 1828 - 1833 0378769 Film NONE C040144 1833 0378770 Film NONE Sheet: 00 /=============================================================================/ ID: <102> Status: D Name: \John Fox\ Gender: M Gen: -5 Position: 000010 Born: c1798, Radbourne, Derbyshire [1851C] Married: 20/11/1854, Duffield, Derby [marr cert] Died: 25/07/1867, 7 Drury Lane, Derby [death cert] Partner: <103> Child: <91> Father: <104> Mother: <126> Sibling: ??? Notes: Identified as a Labourer on the birth cert of Phoebe <91> He is still alive at the time of registration of her birth on 31/07/1851 Wife Eliza Fox (Cooper) was living at 7 Drury Lane, Derby at the time. John probably lived at the same address, as in the 1851 census he is recorded as being there also. Birth cert of Phoebe Fox <91> : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Derby 1851 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Saint Peter in the County of Derby No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 383 Ninth July 1851 Phoebe Girl John Fox Eliza Fox Labourer X The mark of Thirty first James Jay 7 Drury Lane formerly Eliza Fox July 1851 Registrar Cooper Mother 7 Drury Lane Derby ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is this John in the 1841 census ?? Street Address: Victoria H Parish: St Werberghs Borough: Derby County: Derbyshire Source Ref: HO 107/199/19 Name MF Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear William Fox M 45-49 Publican England [N] abt 1794 Thomas Green M 35-39 Joiner England [N] abt 1804 Sarah Green F 35-39 England [N] abt 1804 John Fox M 40-44 Tailor England [N] abt 1799 Ann W Cormac F 25-29 F S Ireland [I] abt 1814 N K M 25-29 England [N] abt 1814 If it is John, why is he stated as being born outside of Derbyshire, when our John we believe _was_ born in Derbyshire? Was our John a Tailor before he married Eliza and became a Labourer? Why would he switch from being a Tailor to a Labourer? 1851 census: Parish: Saint Werburgh Eccl district: Lichfield Borough: Derby Address: 7 Drury Lane County/Island: Derbyshire Source information: HO107/2143 Registration district: Derby Sub-registration district: St Peter ED, institution, or vessel: 3d Folio: 595 Page: 38 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 121 GSU Number: 87773-87774 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Fox M Head Mar 53 Labourer Derbyshire Radbourne abt 1798 John Fox <102> Eliza Fox F Wife Mar 41 Derbyshire Muggington abt 1810 Eliza Cooper <103> Matilda Fox F Daur U 14 Derbyshire Muggington abt 1837 Harriett Fox F Daur U 12 Derbyshire Muggington abt 1839 George Fox M Son U 8 Derby St Werburgh abt 1843 John Fox M Son U 4 Derby St Werburgh abt 1847 Hannah Fox F Daur U 2 (3?) Derby St Werburgh abt 1849 Note that at the time of the 1851 census in April 1851, Phoebe <91> was not born yet, and would not be born until July 1851. Note, however, the address: 7 Drury Lane, the same as where Phoebe was born and the residence of Eliza in July 1851 at the time of the birth. 1861 census: Parish: St Werburgh Munipal Borough: Derby Munipal Ward: Weckett (???) Parliamentary Borough: Derby Town: Derby Address: 7 Drury Lane Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Fox M Head Mar 65 Lobbing Labourer Derbysh Radbourne abt 1796 John Fox <102> Eliza Fox F Wife Mar 49 Derbysh Muggington abt 1812 Eliza Cooper <103> Matilda Fox F Daur Un 24 Silk Hand Derbysh Muggington abt 1837 John Fox M Son 14 Errand Boy Derbysh Derby abt 1847 Hannah Fox F Daur 12 Scholar Derbysh Derby abt 1849 Phoebe Fox F Daur 9 Scholar Derbysh Derby abt 1852 Phoebe Fox <91> Also recorded in 1861 is the next door neighbour at number 8 Drury Lane, Ellen Crossby (35, unmarried, Silk Mill Hand, born Derby) and her daughter Mary Crossby (16, unmarried, Silk Mill Hand, born Derby). Ellen Crossby later, in 1867, is present at John's <102> death (see death cert). GRO marriage index: Quarter: Dec 1854 Grooms Name: John Fox <102> Brides Name: Eliza Cooper <103> District: Belper Vol/Page: 7b/804 Researched: 28/05/2004, FreeBMD & 1837online.com Certificate: Ordered 28/05/2004. Received 04/06/2004. Marriage cert of John <102> and Eliza <103> : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1854 Marriage solumnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of Duffield in the County of Derby No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 88 20th November 1854 John Fox 50/58 Widower Labourer Windley(?) Matthew Fox Labourer Eliza Cooper 42 Spinster -- Windley(?) Samuel Cooper Labourer Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church by or after Banns by me (sig) Richard Barber This Marriage in the Curate was solumnized (sig) John Fox Presence (sig) Peter Sowter(?) between us (sig) Eliza Cooper's mark + of us (sig) Henrietta Tamley(?)'s mark + ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John's <102> age approximately matches the 1851/IGI data, give or take a couple of years. John's <102> occupation is indicated as 'Labourer', matching the censuses. Eliza's <103> age approximately matches the 1851/1881 data, give or take a couple of years. Eliza's <103> father is indicated as 'Samuel Cooper', matching other IGI data. Marriage of John <102> and Eliza <103> in the IGI: -------------- JOHN FOX Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: MATTHEW FOX Marriages: Spouse: ELIZA COOPER Marriage: 20 NOV 1854 Duffield, Derby, England Husband Age at Marriage: 58 Wife Age at Marriage: 42 Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M049948 1854 - 1873 1041433 Film 6905185 Film Sheet: 00 -------------- ELIZA COOPER Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: SAMUEL COOPER Marriages: Spouse: JOHN FOX Marriage: 20 NOV 1854 Duffield, Derby, England Husband Age at Marriage: 58 Wife Age at Marriage: 42 Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M049948 1854 - 1873 1041433 Film 6905185 Film Sheet: 00 -------------- FreeBMD search for John/Eliza marriage (28/05/2004) : Marriages Dec 1854 Fox John Belper 7b 804 Cooper Eliza Belper 7b 804 *************** Fox Ellen Belper 7b 804 Fox John Belper 7b 804 Taylor John Belper 7b 804 The district Belper is in the county of Derbyshire and information about it can be found here. Belper Created 1st July 1837. Sub-districts : Alfreton; Belper; Duffield; Horsley; Ripley; Wirksworth. GRO volumes : XIX (1837-51); 7b (1852-1930). Alderwasley, Alfreton, Allestree, Ashleyhay, Belper, Crich, Denby, Dethick and Lea, Duffield, Hazlewood, Heage, Holbrook, Holloway, Horsley, Horsley Woodhouse, Idridgehay and Alton, Ireton Wood, Kedleston, Kilburn, Kirk Langley, Mackworth, Mapperley, Markheaton, Milford, Morley, Muggington, Pentrich, Quarndon, Ravensdale Park, Ripley, Rowditch (1837-90), Shottle and Postern, Smalley, South Wingfield, Turnditch, Weston Underwood, Windley, Wirksworth. Registers now divided between Amber Valley, Chesterfield, Derby and Erewash districts. 1837online search for marriage (28/05/2004) : Dec 1854 FOX/1/2 FOX, John, Belper, 7b/804 COO/2/10 COOPER, Eliza, B_l[ph]e[rn], 7b/[568][0_]4 Death cert of John <102> : (kindly sent to me by [SE]) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Derby 1867 DEATH in the Sub-district of Saint Peter, Derby in the County of Derby No. When/where Name Sex Age Occupation Cause of death Informant When reg. Registrar 483 Twenty fifth July 1867 John Fox Male 73 General Labourer Paralysis Ellen Crossby Twenty sixth J Aainslay(?) 7 Drury Lane years Certified Present at death July 1867 Registar 8 Drury Lane, Derby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /=============================================================================/ ID: <103> Status: D Name: \Eliza Cooper\ Gender: F Gen: -5 Position: 000011 Born: c1810, Muggington, Derby, Derbyshire [1851C] Married: 20/11/1854, Duffield, Derby [marr cert] Died: 20/03/1898, Derby [death cert] Partner: <102> Child: <92> by unknown father <91> by John Fox Father: <105> Mother: <127> Sibling: ??? Notes: Eliza Fox (Cooper) was living at 7 Drury Lane, Derby at the time of the birth of Phoebe <91>. (Birth registration on 31/07/1851.) Birth cert of Phoebe Fox <91> : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Derby 1851 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Saint Peter in the County of Derby No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 383 Ninth July 1851 Phoebe Girl John Fox Eliza Fox Labourer X The mark of Thirty first James Jay 7 Drury Lane formerly Eliza Fox July 1851 Registrar Cooper Mother 7 Drury Lane Derby ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1851 census: Parish: Saint Werburgh Eccl district: Lichfield Borough: Derby Address: 7 Drury Lane County/Island: Derbyshire Source information: HO107/2143 Registration district: Derby Sub-registration district: St Peter ED, institution, or vessel: 3d Folio: 595 Page: 38 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 121 GSU Number: 87773-87774 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Fox M Head Mar 53 Labourer Derbyshire Radbourne abt 1798 John Fox <102> Eliza Fox F Wife Mar 41 Derbyshire Muggington abt 1810 Eliza Cooper <103> Matilda Fox F Daur U 14 Derbyshire Muggington abt 1837 Harriett Fox F Daur U 12 Derbyshire Muggington abt 1839 George Fox M Son U 8 Derby St Werburgh abt 1843 John Fox M Son U 4 Derby St Werburgh abt 1847 Hannah Fox F Daur U 2 (3?) Derby St Werburgh abt 1849 Note that at the time of the 1851 census in April 1851, Phoebe <91> was not born yet, and would not be born until July 1851. Note, however, the address: 7 Drury Lane, the same as where Phoebe was born and the residence of Eliza in July 1851 at the time of the birth. 1861 census: Parish: St Werburgh Munipal Borough: Derby Munipal Ward: Weckett (???) Parliamentary Borough: Derby Town: Derby Address: 7 Drury Lane Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Fox M Head Mar 65 Lobbing Labourer Derbysh Radbourne abt 1796 John Fox <102> Eliza Fox F Wife Mar 49 Derbysh Muggington abt 1812 Eliza Cooper <103> Matilda Fox F Daur Un 24 Silk Hand Derbysh Muggington abt 1837 John Fox M Son 14 Errand Boy Derbysh Derby abt 1847 Hannah Fox F Daur 12 Scholar Derbysh Derby abt 1849 Phoebe Fox F Daur 9 Scholar Derbysh Derby abt 1852 Phoebe Fox <91> Eliza Cooper's <103> birth in the IGI : ELIZA COOPER Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 10 OCT 1810 Mugginton, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: SAMUEL COOPER Mother: HANNAH Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: K055612 1674 - 1813 1041448 Film 6905255 Film K055612 1869 - 1875 1041448 Film NONE Sheet: 00 1871 census: Civil Parish: Litchurch Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity Town: Litchurch Parliamantary borough: Derby County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Address: 8 Litchurch _____, Osmarla(?) Rd Source information: RG10/3574 Registration district: Derby Sub-registration district: St Peter ED, institution, or vessel: 39 Folio: 66 Page: 26 Household schedule number: 171 GSU Number: 839770 Name MF Relation Marr Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frances A Moss F Head Mar 53 Land owner no occupation Normanton, Derbyshire, England abt 1818 Frances is also described as one of 'Deaf-and-Dumb; Blind; Imbecile or Lunatic; Lunatic' - it does not specify which Eliza Fox F Servant Mar 60 Domestic Servant Mugginton, Derbyshire, England abt 1811 Eliza Cooper <103> Like her daughters Eliza <92> and Phoebe <91>, after the death of husband John Fox <102>, Eliza seems to have entered domestic service. It seems that Eliza <103> went to care for the wealthy 'deaf, blind, imbecile or lunatic' lady Frances Moss. Within ten years, by 1881, aged 70, Eliza had left and gone to live where the 1881 records her as living with daughter Hannah Fox (by then Hannah Pipes, married to Herbert). 1881 census: Household: Name Relation M.Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Herbert PIPES Head M Male 37 Derby, Derby, England Pattern Maker (Iron) Hannah PIPES Wife M Female 33 Derby, Derby, England John G. PIPES Son Male 10 Derby, Derby, England Scholar Harry PIPES Son Male 8 Derby, Derby, England Scholar Joseph PIPES Son Male 7 Derby, Derby, England Scholar Herbert PIPES Son Male 5 Derby, Derby, England Scholar Arthur PIPES Son Male 4 Derby, Derby, England Scholar Eliza PIPES Daur Female 3 Derby, Derby, England Scholar James PIPES Son Male 1 Derby, Derby, England Eliza FOX Mother In Law W Female 70 Muggington, Derby, England Source Information: Dwelling 79 Watson St Census Place Derby St Alkmund, Derby, England Family History Library Film 1341815 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3406 / 54 Page Number 27 Hannah Pipes here is very likely daughter Hannah Fox <<91>>, aged 2or 3 in 1851. Evidently Hannah married Herbert Pipes. See husband John Fox <102> for marriage. Death cert of Eliza <103> : (kindly sent to me by [SE]) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Derby 1898 DEATH in the Sub-district of Derby in the County Borough of Derby in the County of Derby No. When/where Name Sex Age Occupation Cause of death Informant When reg. Registrar 365 Twentieth March 1898 Eliza Fox Female 88 Widow of John Fox Bronchitis Herbert Pipes Twenty first H L Edward 7 Drury Lane years Stone breaker Certified by H.Barrett Son in law March 1898 Registar MB 167 Watson Street Derby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /=============================================================================/ ID: <104> Status: D Name: \Matthew Fox\ Gender: M Gen: -6 Position: 0000100 Born: ??? Married: ??? Died: ??? Partner: <126> Child: <102> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: Marriage cert of John Fox <102> and Eliza <103> : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1854 Marriage solumnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of Duffield in the County of Derby No. When married Name Age Condition Profession Residence at the time of Marriage Fathers Name Fathers Profession 88 20th November 1854 John Fox 50/58 Widower Labourer Windley(?) Matthew Fox Labourer Eliza Cooper 42 Spinster -- Windley(?) Samuel Cooper Labourer Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church by or after Banns by me (sig) Richard Barber This Marriage in the Curate was solumnized (sig) John Fox Presence (sig) Peter Sowter(?) between us (sig) Eliza Cooper's mark + of us (sig) Henrietta Tamley(?)'s mark + ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /=============================================================================/ ID: <105> Status: D Name: \Samuel Cooper\ Gender: M Gen: -6 Position: 0000110 Born: ??? Married: ??? Died: ??? Partner: <127> Child: <103> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: Eliza Cooper's <103> birth in the IGI : ELIZA COOPER Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 10 OCT 1810 Mugginton, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: SAMUEL COOPER Mother: HANNAH Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: K055612 1674 - 1813 1041448 Film 6905255 Film K055612 1869 - 1875 1041448 Film NONE Sheet: 00 _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ /=============================================================================/ ID: <106> Status: D Name: \George Glover\ Gender: M Gen: -6 Position: 0001000 Born: c1797, parish of Willingham, Lincolnshire [AB] Christened 28/09/1796, Willingham By Stow, Lincoln, England [IGI] Married: 15/07/1819, Wickenby, Lincolnshire [AB, IGI, VRI] Died: ??? Partner: <107> Child: <80> Father: <108> Mother: <109> Sibling: \John Glover:c1799\ Christened 06/01/1799, Willingham By Stow, Lincoln, England [IGI] (Did he have a son George Glover, born c1835, Willingham, Lincolnshire; With uncle George Glover (born c1797) on 1851 census night?) \Williamson Glover:c1801:c1865\ Born c1801, Willingham, Lincolnshire [1851C][1861C] Christened 05/03/1801, Willingham By Stow, Lincoln, England [IGI] In 1841: Aged about 39; Farmer (probably); Born c1804, Lincolnshire; Living at Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1841C] In 1851: Aged 50; Farmer of 900 acres; Born c1801, Willingham, Lincolnshire; Living at Parsonage Farm, Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1851C] In 1861: Aged 60; Farm 280 acres; Born c1801, Willingham, Lincolnshire; Living at West St, South Clifton, Lincolnshire [1861C] Evidence suggests he lived and had children with \Rebecca Moynes:c1815\. [IGI] [JS] Rebecca born c1815, Willingham, Lincolnshire [1851C][1861C] Rebecca in 1841: Rebecca Glover; Aged about 26; Born c1814, Lincolnshire; Living at Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1841C] Rebecca in 1851: Rebecca Glover; Aged 36; Farmers Wife; Born c1815, Willingham, Lincolnshire; Living at Parsonage Farm, Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1851C] Rebecca in 1861: Rebecca Glover; Aged 46; Born c1815, Willingham, Lincolnshire; Living at West St, South Clifton, Lincolnshire [1861C] Rebecca in 1871: Rebecca Maris Glover; Aged 56; Widow; Farmer of 444 acres; Born c1815, Fillingham, Lincolnshire; Living at Fillingham Road; Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1871C] Unknown if they formally married. Williamson died by 1871 as Rebecca is stated as a Widow on the 1871 census. They were apparently doing well as they had servants and a governess for the childen. Their children: (Did he have another son George Glover, born c1835, Willingham, Lincolnshire; With uncle George Glover (born c1797) on 1851 census night?) \John Williamson Glover:c1834\ Born c1834, Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1851C] Christened 19/02/1834, Fillingham, Lincoln, England [IGI] In 1841: Aged 7; Born c1834, Lincolnshire; Living at Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1841C] In 1851: Aged 17; Farmers Son; Born c1834, Fillingham, Lincolnshire; Living at Parsonage Farm, Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1851C] \Sarah Glover:c1835\ Born c1836, Lincolnshire [1841C] Christened 15/07/1835, Fillingham, Lincoln, England [IGI] In 1841: Aged 5; Born c1836, Lincolnshire; Living at Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1841C] \William Glover:c1837\ Born c1837, Lincolnshire [1841C] Christened 09/03/1837, Fillingham, Lincoln, England [IGI] In 1841: Aged 4; Born c1837, Lincolnshire; Living at Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1841C] \Mary Glover:c1838\ Born c1838, Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1851C][1861C] Christened 06/09/1838, Fillingham, Lincoln, England [IGI] In 1841: Aged 2; Born c1839, Lincolnshire; Living at Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1841C] In 1851: Aged 12; Scholar at home; Born c1839, Fillingham, Lincolnshire; Living at Parsonage Farm, Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1851C] In 1861: Aged 22; Born c1839, Fillingham, Lincolnshire; Living at West St, South Clifton, Lincolnshire [1861C] \Joseph Glover:c1840\ Born c1840, Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1851C][1861C] Christened 04/12/1840, Fillingham, Lincoln, England [IGI] Birth references show a promising reference for Oct-Dec 1840 in the Gainsborough district of Lincolnshire. That Gainsborough district contains Willingham. Joseph was probably born in 1840 in that district. (Reference: Joseph Glover, Dec 1840, Gainsbro', XIV/325) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION DISTRICT Gainsborough 1840 BIRTH in the Sub-district of Willingham in the County of Lincoln No. When/where Name Sex Father Mother Fathers Occupation Informant When reg. Registrar 373 Fourth of November 1840 Joseph Boy Williamson Rebecca Moynes Farmer The mark of (X) Fifteenth of Thomas Jackson in the parish Glover Glover Rebecca Moynes November 1840 Registrar of Fillingham formerly Cox Glover Mother Fillingham ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (Note: Fillingham, not Willingham! They are in fact different places and Fillingham is near Willingham.) In 1841: Aged 6 months; Born c1840, Lincolnshire; Living at Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1841C] In 1851: Aged 10; Scholar at home; Born c1841, Fillingham, Lincolnshire; Living at Parsonage Farm, Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1851C] In 1861: Aged 20; Farmers Son; Born c1841, Fillingham, Lincolnshire; Living at West St, South Clifton, Lincolnshire [1861C] \Elizabeth Rebecca Glover:c1843\ Born c1844, Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1851C][1861C] Christened 20/10/1843, Fillingham, Lincoln, England [IGI] In 1851: Aged 7; Scholar at home; Born c1844, Fillingham, Lincolnshire; Living at Parsonage Farm, Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1851C] In 1861: Elizabeth K Glover; Aged 17; Born c1844, Fillingham, Lincolnshire; Living at West St, South Clifton, Lincolnshire [1861C] \Ann Glover:c1846\ Born c1847, Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1851C] Christened 14/08/1846, Fillingham, Lincoln, England [IGI] In 1851: Anne Glover; Aged 4; Scholar at home; Born c1847, Fillingham, Lincolnshire; Living at Parsonage Farm, Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1851C] In 1871: Annie Glover; Aged 24; Farmers daughter; Born c1847, Fillingham, Lincolnshire; Living at Fillingham Road; Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1871C] \Maria Glover:c1849\ Born c1849, Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1851C] Christened 16/02/1849, Fillingham, Lincoln, England [IGI] In 1851: Aged 2; Scholar at home; Born c1849, Fillingham, Lincolnshire; Living at Parsonage Farm, Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1851C] In 1871: Aged 22; Farmers daughter; Born c1849, Fillingham, Lincolnshire; Living at Fillingham Road; Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1871C] \Jane Glover:c1851:1886\ Born c1851, Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1861C][1871C][1881C][IGI] Died 1886 [GRO] Christened 31/07/1851, Fillingham, Lincoln, England [IGI] In 1861: Aged 9; Visitor; Born c1852, Fillingham, Lincolnshire; Living at Gainsborough, Lincolnshire [1861C] In 1871: Jamie Glover {female}; Aged 19; Farmers daughter; Born c1852, Fillingham, Lincolnshire; Living at Fillingham Road; Fillingham, Lincolnshire [1871C] In 1881: Jane Able; Aged 29; Visitor; Born c1852, Fillingham, Lincolnshire; Living at Cross St, Gainsborough, Lincolnshire [1881C] Death record for Jane Abel, July-Sep 1886, aged 36, Caistor {Lincolnshire}, 7a/419 [FreeBMD] _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ \Sarah Glover:c1803\ Christened 04/09/1803, Willingham By Stow, Lincoln, England [IGI] \Elizabeth Glover:c1805\ Christened 17/11/1805, Willingham By Stow, Lincoln, England [IGI] \Joseph Glover:c1808\ Christened 14/02/1808, Willingham By Stow, Lincoln, England [IGI] \Mary Glover:c1810\ Christened 28/04/1810, Willingham By Stow, Lincoln, England [IGI] \Jane Glover:c1813\ Christened 03/03/1813, Willingham By Stow, Lincoln, England [IGI] \Elizabeth Glover:c1817\ Christened 25/01/1817, Willingham By Stow, Lincoln, England [IGI] Notes: George Glover <106> is recorded on the marriage certificate of Williamson Glovers <80> and Eleanor Oates <81> as being a Farmer by occupation. 1841 census: Civil parish: Saxelby Hundred: Lawress County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address: Saxilby Source information: HO107/643/10 Registration district: Lincoln Sub-registration district: Lincoln North East ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Folio: 5 Page: 2 (click to see others on page) Line number: 1 GSU Number: 438768 Name MF Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Glover M 45 Farmer Y abt 1796 George Glover <106> Mary Glover F 42 Y abt 1799 Mary Page <107> John Glover M 21 Y abt 1820 Sarah Glover F 19 Y abt 1822 Theodocia Glover F 15 Y abt 1826 Williamson Glover M 13 Y abt 1828 Williamson Glover <80> George Glover M 10 Y abt 1831 Mary Glover F 7 Y abt 1834 Jane Glover F 5 Y abt 1836 Ann Glover F 3 Y abt 1838 Joseph Glover M 5 months Y abt 1841 Edward Houghilby M 22 Ag Lab Y abt 1819 Thomas Smith M 20 Ag Lab Y abt 1821 James Rowson M 15 Ag Lab Y abt 1826 Jane Cox F 18 F.S Y abt 1823 1851 Census: Civil parish: Thorney County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address: Castle Farm Registration district: Newark Sub-registration district: North Collingham ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 3 Name Relationship M.S. Age EstBYear Gender Occupation Birth City George Glover Head Mar 54 c1797 M Farmer of 170 employing 1 lad Linc Willingham Mary Glover Wife Mar 52 c1799 F Farmers Wife Linc Tealby Theodosia Glover Daur U 24* c1827 F Farmers Daur Linc Willingham George Glover Son U 20 c1831 M Farmers Son Linc Saxilby Ann Glover Daur U 18 c1833 F - Linc Saxilby George Glover Nephew U 16 c1835 M Farmers ????????????? Linc Willingham Jane Pilsel Serv U 16 c1835 F House ??????? Notts Parlton Richard Harrison Serv U 20 c1831 M House ??????? Linc Saxilby James Harrison Serv U 18 c1833 M House ??????? Linc Saxilby John Hempsall Serv U 14 c1837 M House ??????? Linc Saxilby * = I think Theodosia is in the 1851 census twice, also in with her brother John <<80>>. IGI: WILLIAM GLOVER Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 04 MAY 1828 Willingham By Stow, Lincoln, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: GEORGE GLOVER Mother: MARY Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C033771 1562 - 1812 0436005 Film 6908112 Film Sheet: 00 _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ /=============================================================================/ ID: <107> Status: D Name: \Mary Page\ Gender: F Gen: -6 Position: 0001001 Born: 06/06/1799, parish of Tealby, Lincolnshire [AB] Married: 15/07/1819, Wickenby, Lincolnshire [AB, IGI, VRI] Died: ??? Partner: <106> Child: <80> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: 1841 census: Civil parish: Saxelby Hundred: Lawress County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address: Saxilby Source information: HO107/643/10 Registration district: Lincoln Sub-registration district: Lincoln North East ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Folio: 5 Page: 2 (click to see others on page) Line number: 1 GSU Number: 438768 Name MF Age Occupation Birthplace EstBYear Individual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Glover M 45 Farmer Y abt 1796 George Glover <106> Mary Glover F 42 Y abt 1799 Mary Page <107> John Glover M 21 Y abt 1820 Sarah Glover F 19 Y abt 1822 Theodocia Glover F 15 Y abt 1826 Williamson Glover M 13 Y abt 1828 Williamson Glover <80> George Glover M 10 Y abt 1831 Mary Glover F 7 Y abt 1834 Jane Glover F 5 Y abt 1836 Ann Glover F 3 Y abt 1838 Joseph Glover M 5 months Y abt 1841 Edward Houghilby M 22 Ag Lab Y abt 1819 Thomas Smith M 20 Ag Lab Y abt 1821 James Rowson M 15 Ag Lab Y abt 1826 Jane Cox F 18 F.S Y abt 1823 1851 Census: Civil parish: Thorney County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address: Castle Farm Registration district: Newark Sub-registration district: North Collingham ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 3 Name Relationship M.S. Age EstBYear Gender Occupation Birth City George Glover Head Mar 54 c1797 M Farmer of 170 employing 1 lad Linc Willingham Mary Glover Wife Mar 52 c1799 F Farmers Wife Linc Tealby Theodosia Glover Daur U 24* c1827 F Farmers Daur Linc Willingham George Glover Son U 20 c1831 M Farmers Son Linc Saxilby Ann Glover Daur U 18 c1833 F - Linc Saxilby George Glover Nephew U 16 c1835 M Farmers ????????????? Linc Willingham Jane Pilsel Serv U 16 c1835 F House ??????? Notts Parlton Richard Harrison Serv U 20 c1831 M House ??????? Linc Saxilby James Harrison Serv U 18 c1833 M House ??????? Linc Saxilby John Hempsall Serv U 14 c1837 M House ??????? Linc Saxilby * = I think Theodosia is in the 1851 census twice, also in with her brother John <<80>>. IGI: GEORGE GLOVER Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: MARY PAGE Marriage: 15 JUL 1819 Wickenby, Lincoln, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M033121 1561 - 1650 0508088 Film 6908099 Film M033121 1561 - 1835 0508088 Film NONE M033121 1663 - 1812 0508088 Film NONE M033121 1813 - 1835 0508071 Film 6908099 Film Sheet: 00 VRI: GLOVER, George Marriage Wife: Mary PAGE Marriage Date: 15 Jul 1819 Recorded in: Wickenby, Lincolnshire, England Source: FHL Film 989794 Dates: 1819 - 1819 /=============================================================================/ _PRIVATE_ _PUBLIC_ ID: <115> Status: D Name: \Thomas Knapton\ Gender: M Gen: -6 Position: 0110000 Born: c1766 ??? [IGI] (Unconfirmed) Married: 26/11/1799, Alne, Yorkshire, England ??? [IGI] (Unconfirmed) Died: ??? Partner: <116> Child: <54> Father: John Knapton??? (Unconfirmed) Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: IGI data on John Knapton <54> : JOHN KNAPTON Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 02 JAN 1814 Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: THOMAS KNAPTON Mother: MARY Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C071931 1813 - 1819 0918380 Film 6900088 Film C071931 1813 - 1819 0918379 Film NONE C071931 1813 - 1819 0918380 Film NONE Sheet: 00 IGI marriage?? THOMAS KNAPTON Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: MARY MARSHALL Marriage: 26 NOV 1799 Alne, Yorkshire, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M073782 1724 - 1812 0990881 Film 6901217 Film Sheet: 00 Is this Thomas Knapton? THOMAS KNAPTON Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 27 JUN 1766 Alne, Yorkshire, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN KNAPTON Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C073782 1724 - 1812 0990881 Film 6910186 Film Sheet: 00 /=============================================================================/ ID: <116> Status: D Name: \Mary Marshall\ Gender: F Gen: -6 Position: 0110001 Born: c1760 ??? [IGI] (Unconfirmed) Married: 26/11/1799, Alne, Yorkshire, England ??? [IGI] (Unconfirmed) Died: ??? Partner: <115> Child: <54> Father: William Marshall??? (Unconfirmed) Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: IGI data on John Knapton <54> : JOHN KNAPTON Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 02 JAN 1814 Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: THOMAS KNAPTON Mother: MARY Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C071931 1813 - 1819 0918380 Film 6900088 Film C071931 1813 - 1819 0918379 Film NONE C071931 1813 - 1819 0918380 Film NONE Sheet: 00 IGI marriage?? THOMAS KNAPTON Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: MARY MARSHALL Marriage: 26 NOV 1799 Alne, Yorkshire, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M073782 1724 - 1812 0990881 Film 6901217 Film Sheet: 00 Is this Mary Marshall? MARY MARSHALL Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 14 DEC 1760 Cathedral Saint Peter, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: WILLM. MARSHALL Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C007756 1746 - 1764 0919325 Film 6909644 Film Sheet: 00 And this Mary's younger sister, who died young? MARY MARSHALL Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 01 MAY 1760 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Death: 20 FEB 1765 Burial: Parents: Father: WILLIAM MARSHALL Messages: Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number. Source Information: Batch Number: 7806032 Sheet: 27 Source Call No.: 1126235 Type: Film /=============================================================================/ ID: <117> Status: D Name: \Thomas Michell\ Gender: M Gen: -7 Position: 01010000 Born: 20/02/1742 [Greville] Married: Alice Angove, 20/12/1763 Died: 14/05/1800 [Greville] Partner: <118> Child: <95> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: /=============================================================================/ ID: <118> Status: D Name: \Alice Angove\ Gender: F Gen: -7 Position: 01010001 Born: 16/12/1741 [Greville] Married: Thomas Michell, 20/12/1763 Died: 11/05/1817 [Greville] Partner: <117> Child: <95> Father: ??? Mother: ??? Sibling: ??? Notes: /=============================================================================/ ID: <119> Status: L (Private) /==============================================================================/ ID: <120> Status: L (Private) /==============================================================================/ ID: <121> Status: L (Private) /==============================================================================/ ID: <122> Status: L (Private) /==============================================================================/ ID: <123> Status: D Name: \Daniel Ward\ Gender: M Gen: -5 Position: 000000 Born: c1817, Handsworth, Yorkshire Christened 12/08/1817, Handsworth, Yorkshire [IGI] Handsworth parish registers indicate "Daniel Ward born 29th July 1817 Handsworth christened 31 Aug 1817 Son of Thomas and Mary of Woodhouse Farmer" [PR] c1816, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1861C] c1818, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1851C] c1817-c1821, Yorkshire [1841C] Married: 25/12/1838, Sheffield, Yorkshire [cert] Died: 08/12/1869, 7 Traffic Street, Derby [cert] Partner: <124> Child: <90> Father: <128> Mother: <129> Sibling: \Thomas Ward:c1811\ Born 25/08/1811; Christened 06/10/1811, Handsworth, Yorkshire [IGI] Handsworth parish registers indicate "Oct 6th 1811 Thomas son of Thos and Mary Ward of Woodhouse Bapt born 25th Aug 1811." [PR] Aged 30 in 1841 (so born c1811), born Yorkshire; Cattle Dealer; living in Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1841C] Voted for Eardley (the Whigs/liberals) in 1848 poll (see later for details) Aged 39 in 1851 (so born c1812), born Handsworth, Yorkshire; Cattle Dealer; living in Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1851C] Aged 59 in 1871 (so born c1812), born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; Cattle Dealer; living in Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1871C] Deceased by 1881 as wife Phebe is stated as a widow in 1881. Married \Phebe ?:c1810\ Phebe is aged 40 in 1851 (so born c1811), born Handsworth, Yorkshire; living in Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1851C] Phebe is aged 61 in 1871 (so born c1810), born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; living in Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1871C] Phebe is aged 71 in 1881 (so born c1810), born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; living in Back Lane, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1881C] Phebe is aged 81 in 1891 (so born c1810), born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; living in Cross St, Handsworth, Yorkshire; She is described as being deaf [1891C] Not found in 1901 census - possibly deceased. Children: Charlotte Ward <68>, born c1850 (who brought up John Ward <45>) Handsworth parish registers indicate "Charlotte Ward Bapt April 28th {1850} of Woodhouse Cattle Dealer" [PR] \Ellen Pashley:c1841\ Aged 40 in 1881 (so born c1841), born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; living in Back Lane, Handsworth, Yorkshire; Stated to be a daughter of Phebe [1881C] Aged 40 (mistake, surely!) in 1891 (born c1851 if correct!), born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; Baker; living in Cross St, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1891C] Other children - see siblings of Charlotte <68> \George Ward:c1814\ Christened 08/05/1814, Handsworth, Yorkshire [IGI] Handsworth parish registers indicate "George Ward Son of Thomas and Mary Woodhouse Farmer" [PR] Aged 28 in 1841 (so born c1813), born Yorkshire; Cattle Dealer; living in Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1841C] Voted for Eardley (the Whigs/liberals) in 1848 poll (see later for details) Aged 36 in 1851 (so born c1815), born Handsworth, Yorkshire; Cattle Dealer; living in Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1851C] Aged 47 in 1861 (so born c1814), born Woodhouse, Yorkshire; Cattle Dealer; living in Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1861C] Built 'Netherfield House' in Handsworth in 1870 following his retirement (according to "Le Tall's Woodhouse"). Aged 57 in 1871 (so born c1814), born Handsworth, Yorkshire; Retired Cattle Dealer; living in Netherfield House, Handsworth, Yorkshire (near Woodhouse Mill) [1871C] Deceased by 1881 as wife Anne is stated there to be a Widow, "Le Tall's Woodhouse" says he died in 1876. === Page 26, "Le Tall's Woodhouse": "George <<123>> has retired: he paid particular attention to pig-jobbing when in business. Upon his retiring he built Netherfield House in 1870." === Page 60, "Le Tall's Woodhouse": {following from page 59, which discusses the year 1876} "Geo. Ward., who built Netherfield House, died this year." {goes on to discuss 1877 on the same page.} === Married \Ann ?:c1829\ Aged 22 in 1851 (so born c1829), born Sheffield, Yorkshire; living in Woodhouse, Handsworth, Yorkshire [1851C] Aged 42 in 1871 (so born c1829), born Sheffield, Yorkshire; living in Netherfield House,